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https://amp.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/emergency-crews-brace-for-fire-storm-conditions/news-story/8fbb353d01e3e1c136fceaaebbb1a805
Feldspartacus
See what happens when you take away guns? The people are left defenseless against attacks like this. Same thing with California.
lokishadowgirl
seasons are irrelevant in this time of climate change
Dixinmass
People want the world to burn well they are getting their wish. Keep burning coal and other bullshit, good work!
AlansGiraffeVillain
Shits on fire, yo
whatsisname
This is basically analogous to what they're doing to the ocean, but on land. Get rid of those right-wing science deniers from govt.
tumppu
I have some family (distant, but anyway) near brisbane. Last I heard they're fine, but theres at least one big fire nearby.
poot85
Their own politicians are ignoring climate change. Money now, life in an ashtray later
traumapatient
MrSeanicles
New Zealand is currently getting the smoke from our fires on the coast. Some of my friends had to evacuate due to the fires
DIINKELBERG
Australia has two seasons. Fire and not fire
Gen1Optimus
The air is Brisbane is thick with smoke
WitchyVixen
Cue Midnight Oil..
MetalSkeletal
GiantEarlobe
Don’t forget that our prime minister cut 10s if millions of dollars from our fire services this year and is refusing to accept 1/2
GiantEarlobe
International aid. But don’t worry he’s sending all those effected his thoughts and prayers! Scott Morrison is a dangerous man in power 2/2
imgjim
How can we sleep when our beds are burning?
MetalSkeletal
Psycho3968
I'm in Brisbane Australia the sky has been smokey for weeks, my cousin is down near Tamworth, they live in the real Bush. Very scary there
Frankmate
Our terrible government that miraculously keeps getting voted in denies climate change so makes no attempts to prepare for events like this
holymanbatbatman
But dont worry. Climate change ain't real. Trumpanzee said so.
jumbo13366
Just so y'all can understand how crazy these fires are, the smoke from some of these fires is reaching New Zealand. Please be safe people <3
TheFunGuyinOz
I'm currently in Bathurst NSW, about 300kms from the coast where the fires are. Yesterday, the smoke made the light seem like an eclipse.
MetalSkeletal
That's alright, all the Kiwi's are in Straya anyway.
KosmsLabyrinth
Looks like california
GadenKerensky
And fuck Barnaby Joyce for his bullshit. What he said is inexcusable.
longlegsam
The fucked thing is there is no way he was even trying to make a point. He's just an awful, vile human being
GadenKerensky
He should be stood down.
Radix865
MetalSkeletal
Why is the text upside down.
AlexSkogen1
Brilliant.
notacobra
Our "approaching-china-levels-bad" government cut funding to emergency services and fire fighting this year, while denying climate change.
itsameglassologybyt
The whole world is burning...literally. Each country has at least one active wild fire right now. Newest trend only the earth understands.
Matsuuu
I didn't believe Finland has, but checked one web page that has listed most, if not all alarms for emergency services, and there is one.
itsameglassologybyt
is what the right would say. Human caused Climate change is very real. The extreme sways in temperatures, storms, and fires prove it.
USSTrekky360
There’s a “fire season” in Australia?
iamkaren
Yep. Summer is usually our fire season. We used to back burn to prepare for it. But the greens put a stop to it. 1 of the reasons for this.
TheShittyWizard
The overwhelming reason is climate change. Which the current government denies. This is not an issue with the greens. What a load of BS.
longlegsam
as a member of the rfs the issue isn't the greens stopping it, Its that with the drought, its limited our ability to safely carry out backbu
GadenKerensky
As far as I know, they never 'put a stop to it', they limited it.
TheShittyWizard
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/12/is-there-really-a-green-conspiracy-to-stop-bushfire-hazard-reduction
USSTrekky360
Ah I see. Scary stuff
TheShittyWizard
Nothing to do with the greens. This person is clearly a conservative supporter who denies climate science. We have extended drought atm.
iamkaren
Mate you need to calm down. I said 1 of the reasons. I am very well aware the drought is the main reason. Never said anything about denying?
TheShittyWizard
Fire commission has even stated it had nothing to do with the greens. They back burnt as much as they could. /1
TheShittyWizard
You are spewing propoganda rubbish designed to deflect from talking about climate science. - I work in climate science.
TheShittyWizard
So no, its not "1 of the reasons". You are wrong.
TheShittyWizard
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/12/is-there-really-a-green-conspiracy-to-stop-bushfire-hazard-reduction
TheShittyWizard
Literally has nothing to do with the greens. You are factually wrong. 100% a climate change / fire department funding issue. /3
TheShittyWizard
Instead of telling me to calm down either back up your bullshit with evidence or fuuuuuuuuck off.
TheShittyWizard
but the period the period in which they can safely back burn is getting shorter. due to climate change. /2
FailedCrate
And thousand of scientists promise, this is just the fuckin start. But hey, rather have my meat & comfortable car access.
TheShittyWizard
Every person on the planet could stop eating meat and we would still have a climate crisis.
TheShittyWizard
I work in climate science and livestock isn't the issue people make it out to be. Fossil fuels are overwhelmingly the issue.
TheShittyWizard
I am not against advocating for a vegan / vegetarian diet for environmental, economic or ethical reason but it's not very relevant to CC.
FailedCrate
I'm sorry what?
TheShittyWizard
Also I'm happy to discuss further just message me.
TheShittyWizard
I'm not sure what was unclear. Emissions from livestock don't effect climate change enough to be a significant or relevant factor.
FailedCrate
I don't use a term implemented by those who're mostly responsible for global warmung. Further CC means something different to me.
TheShittyWizard
The terms 'climate change' AND 'global warming' comes from scientists. You're a moron.
TheShittyWizard
Otherwise this is a good source to start with: https://skepticalscience.com/how-much-meat-contribute-to-gw.html
FailedCrate
Nope. Not buying it.
TheShittyWizard
Ok. At this point I'm used to the uneducated dismissing climate science.
Dominator497
You aren't wrong. Australia is burning, but the article and your images are almost a year old ....
algalon
Please @op, don't post bullshit.
MetalSkeletal
kittensushi
This is actually happening. I'm living in it. It's scary
Iowyn
2nded. I'm not even in danger, but many of my friends are... And there's more fires each day. It's full on.
iamkaren
Some images are recent some are old
MetalSkeletal
I wasn't aware. I got most of the pics from the Courier Mail.
Dominator497
I stand corrected. Still a bit odd including anything from a year ago when talking about current events no?
SecondSince
When talking about things like these a year is still recent.
grandpasonlylivingheir
With major fires all over the world, the fire from a year ago it’s not current at all.
SecondSince
Maybe not current, but still relevant. BECAUSE of all the fires around the world.
Dominator497
Fires? That's misleading at the least. If its current why show pictures of last year's fires?
SecondSince
It's becoming a yearly recurring event. Then it matters very little which pictures you show. The result is the exact same. Don't be pedantic
MetalSkeletal
Suzolid
Can I help with anything?
Boatsntoes
We get it, you vape.
Heavenissize17socks
Lightning strikes or arson?
punknoodles0
Australia
Cellestia
Always arson.
AnonKneeMoose
Training Gone wrong, Arson and Snap fires from. dry heat here.
HaterofWasps
Theory is arson (in some parts), but then things like flicking cigarettes out of car windows doesn't help either ...
LurkerOfDarkness
Or glass thrown in nature...
vindik8or
There are so many separate fires you cannot pin them down to one cause. Conditions are so bad a rock fall could cause them in some places.
DefaultImgurUsername
http://satview.bom.gov.au/ imagery from the bom
christ0s
keep voting for the liberal party they'll fix everything.
valen00
They have the power of thoughts and prayers
christ0s
and the power of coal
AussieNotNamedBruce
Don't know why everyone is being so dramatic, we're only hazing out our choice neighbours *Waves in kiwi*
fuckbeans
What *I* want to know is this: Are Californian firefighters going over to Australia to help fight fires? Or are we being fucknozzles?
MetalSkeletal
I know we've sent teams to California to help during their fire season. I believe it's reciprocal. But I don't think they're due here yet
VTiR
News today said a water tank plane from the US landed this morning at the RAAF base in Richmond (Sydney). Should be helping from this w/e.
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
Yall didn't rake your leaves
three5implewords
great joke+ 1
JaizenP
Came here for this. DT45 knows what up.
Krackajak78
I'm on a smoko
Hamahawk
No leaves to rake
Tubularballs
Our trees don’t shed. They’re just full of accelerant.
RationalJellyFish
Only in Finland.
Cranbananarama
Couldn't. Roos kept stealin' the rakes.
ILikeBlondDudesAndICanNotLieButGingersWillDoJustFine
Are roos your versions of ducks?
degenerator
"I am Karl, King of the Roos?" Doesn't have the same ring to i.
ILikeBlondDudesAndICanNotLieButGingersWillDoJustFine
Goose* not duck sorry
CptnAb
Roo is slang for kangaroo there are upwards of 40 million of them so many of them in fact that large amounts are beginning to starve.
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
Would they support a restrictive hunting season to help population control? Wouldn't imaging roos tasting too good tho
CptnAb
Roo tastes like a less gamey venison, unfortunately the knee jerk reaction to anything gun related is making stuff like that impossible.
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
In my area they're thinking of opening a seal hunting season because there are too many in the area for the fisheries to support among...
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
But there's totally no link between climate change and increased frequency, increased fire season length and increased severity of bushfires
AddictiveTendancies
Yeah but like, profits... We're fucked haha!
curlyjenkins24
The policy of controlled burns has changed. ... so not always ‘climate change’...
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
Controlled burns are becoming impossible because the fire season is so long.
degenerator
Good point. We should continue to focus on Hillary's emails.
austinwizardforhire
In the immortal words of the late, great George Carlin, "The planet will be fine, we're fucked."
WilliamElse
Nobody has ever said the actual rock will split in two. But the Earth's biodiversity will take a huge hit and if we push it into a...
WilliamElse
...hothouse state then it may never recover. So it's not just us.
tumppu
BuT tHeRes IcE oN tHe PoLeS
Ialmostgotthis
That technically means we are in an ice age.
FartyMcDumpstein
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
They can't run that argument for much longer. At least not in the plural sense.
FartyMcDumpstein
updated version https://youtu.be/xlPVUB8svuI
Carnivoracious
.
MetalSkeletal
TheMellowPeril
The Earth used to be a giant ball of fire. Bet you didn’t know that. /s
RyuKensatsu
Yes but did we or anything live on that?
wl60423
Early life on this planet survived in conditions completely inhospitable to humans. Life will not stop til the sun eats earth.
PhilMcrevice
The difference between existence and non-existence has always been a matter of temperature
AntiProtonBoy
Not necessarily. The amount of fuel available is a greater factor. Fire gets incredibly intense with a lot of fuel, even in cold weather.
PhilMcrevice
All existence comes from stars burning at thousands of degrees Celcius. If some hadn't cooled, burned out or exploded, we wouldn't exist.
AntiProtonBoy
How the fuck is that relevant to bush fires?
PhilMcrevice
If that process didn't exist, you and I wouldn't be here discussing the disasters that are brushfires...so its entirely relevant.
thebigcheese
At time of writing 14 people downvoted this... Explain yourselves.
jimmyhowlett
Denial is more convenient. Source, from climate change denial capital of canada. I was asked to leave.
CaffeineManic
Russian trolls argue and up/down vote both sides of issues in order to create disagreement.
WilliamElse
I think there are also a lot of American trolls on this issue, even if they don't realise it themselves. Russia & US are still big fossil...
WilliamElse
...fuel producers and those industries have been muddying the waters for decades.
seckzie
Pople would be probably more inclined to explain opposing views here if they did not get hit by a ton of downvotes for doing so.
valen00
Then they may wish to examine their views. If you're ashamed to speak them outside your echo chamber they probably aren't good.
seckzie
It is not about being ashamed, just not wanting to be persecuted. Getting downvoted, warned, censored, banned. Or even worse than that.
valen00
If all those things are happening perhaps your views still need to be examined.
wildebeestsarepeopletoo
Or the bigger, more frequent huricaines, the huge cold/snow system across most of the US....on and on. I think we broke the planet.
TygrF
Incorrect. IPCCs 5th Assesment (2013): "Current data sets indicate no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over
TygrF
the past century and it remains uncertain whether any reported long-term increases in tropical cyclone frequency are robust after accounting
TygrF
for past changes in observing capabilities (Knutson et al., 2010)"
electronicbovine
No, no, no. We unlocked it's next cycle. For us, it'll be hard mode: with plastic.
thebigcheese
The planet is changing and will adapt as its done in the past, we have broken it for us though.
WilliamElse
For most species. We're one of those better able to adapt, though probably only the wealthiest will be able to do so.
TygrF
More recently, SR15: "Numerous studies leading up to and after AR5 have reported a decreasing trend in the global number of tropical
TygrF
cyclones and/or the globally accumulated cyclonic energy" https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/chapter/chapter-3/
sammypup
Google isn't helping. What changed that makes them burn? Less rain? A change in the wind? Different plants growing where they shouldn't?
woodchucc3211
People living where they never used to
berserk
Greens are stopping controlled burns. More fuel on the ground, bigger and hotter fires. Climate is changing as it always has. 1/2
berserk
2/2 Nothing to do with CO2.
sammypup
All I'm getting out of search is 'It gets hot in summer and things burn!' Thanks google.
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
Climate change. Less rain dries things out, creates a tinderbox for when something does catch. Same scenario in California.
DocWino
Ca hasn’t been doing controlled burns the way we need to either.
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
https://www.outsideonline.com/2404949/fact-check-trump-wildfire-tweets-2019
DocWino
Exactly what I said.
sammypup
Did the rain shift, and is flooding the shit out of somewhere else like the monsoons in India or are they just. Absent.
valen00
Monsoon rains in India are delayed. Weather is more extreme in general
sammypup
(as an aside, 'what changed in the climate?' 'Climate changed!' 'YES I KNOW, BUT SPECIFICALLY'.)
PangolinBan
So. Many. Things. On topic: a warmer atmosphere contains more moisture, which means less precipitation. So to answer that previous 1/2
frankxcid
Only superstition and social media. think, what is burning? Where does the fuel for the fires come from? Trees do not grow in one season.
FurtiveGlancer
^^^ found one of the climate denier morons...
jimmyhowlett
I think you just proved yourself wrong. We've always had trees, now fires are worse. What changed?
jimmyhowlett
I'll give you a hint. Trees are not more flammable today.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
Are you fucking kidding?
BishopBerkeley
Yes
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
God I hope so.
frankxcid
Isn't it more likely to be urban sprawl and increased water usage rather than climate? There is a fix and it's not carbon taxes
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
There's certainly less water available but that's about rainfall more than domestic use.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
Carbon pricing in Australia was incredibly successful. Not popular for some reason but very very good.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
https://i-c-a-n.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/carbon-price-works.jpg
MetalSkeletal
The biggest issue we have when it comes to rainfall is the clearing of land for agriculture.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
And the prioritisation of mines>cotton farms>food farms> people in small towns.
GadenKerensky
There is no increased water usage because there's no fucking water to use because it hasn't rained, which climate change isn't helping.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
These aren't urban fires that are spreading embers 30 kms from the front.
KindofaBadPerson
Australia isn't like this all the time?
ZeKiller
No, it’s upside down...
Craftworks
,¡oʎ ǝɹᴉɟ uo sʇᴉɥS,
butwhyisthenamegone
Well sometimes it also floods somewhere at the same time. (and really: no, no this is not normal)
AgamemnonsMemes
Always a little bit but this is a lot.
TheShittyWizard
Fire season is extending and severity of the fires is increasing due to climate change.
TaquoBella
Maybe like California—just 90% of the time.
MetalSkeletal
No. Sometimes it's bad.
ItWasNotAcceptableIfNotToLiveForTheSakeOfPleasurableThings
Stay strong, friends.
keyboardandsword
I just dealt with wildfires here in Southern California. Stay safe, and be well.
Cayowin
Just for some perspective. California in 2019 lost 101,313 ha to fire, so far NSW has lost 970 000 in 2 mnths, n fire season hasnt started
keyboardandsword
Yeah. Fire bad.
prepareforassholecomment
We do this regularly to keep the spider population down. It doesn’t work.
Robowitz
It's probably spiders doing this to keep the human population down!
CptnAb
No they like their meat well done, this way is just more efficient.
Robowitz
efficient indeed!
sammypup
How about the snakes?
CptnAb
They lit the fires...
sammypup
Goddamn snakes, setting fires everywhere!!