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Feb 14, 2026 5:08 PM
LordoftheHildago
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didyouseewhatgodjustdidtousman
Travel leads to experiencing other cultures and ideas, which leads to liberalism. That’s why the GOP has always tried to keep people poor and in one place. They always fight to prevent mass transit and rail travel.
NightOwlRally
"Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake."
PointlessNips
Given the electoral collage it really doesn't matter how few vote, only that the "right people" vote and they'll make sure that happens. If 23 million California's voted and they all voted for Democrats but two people from Wyoming and two people from South Dakota and two people from South Carolina voted and they all voted Republican you still end up with all those votes and all those Congress people delegated to Red States.
arcontos
ok so can someone clarify something for me on this? does the real id bs not count as proof? as someone outside nashville i see plenty of ids there and plenty of them have the star on them. i know the point is to not have what amounts to a poll tax as the argument against this and agree but keep seeing people saying youll need a passport that is far more difficult to get than the real id crap.
Velorex
Im reminded of the married women thing..... aren't most married women republicans? I'd assume that couples that refuse to be legally married but are together are not republicans for one.
solutionorppt
Fun fact on the State Department cutting non-profit libraries out as passport application centers: about 85% of libraries in Pennsylvania are modeled off of the original Free Public Library in Philadelphia and are non-profit institutions.
Going to be really hard to get one in rural PA.
Redshadow09
Just curious for anyone in Mississippi. What the fuck is going on over there? I hear mostly shit talking to West Virginia but it seems like you guys got a run for their money for being the shithole state. No offense. Kind of surprised Florida is kicking your ass All things considering. Florida man should move to Mississippi and be Mississippi man.
bikergeek6249
One of the reasons for the "florida man" stereotype is Florida's unusually strong "open records" or "sunshine" laws, which make it easy for cub reporters to fill column inches with "From the police blotter" type stories. Those stories are then picked up by the wire services and circulated across the US. So a lot of it is an artifact of publicity and reporting rather than Florida being unusually wack.
cousteau
Um, states having fewer people being able to vote doesn't mean whoever they often vote for will get fewer points. (And if anything, I suspect this would end up strengthening the right wing vote on those already red states.)
ImHereToGetDownvotes
It doesn't matter if it's 60 people voting or 60 million in a state. If you disenfranchise enough of the "others" than all that's left is the people you want voting for you and your party. That's what they're doing here. It's not about protecting the white men's right to vote, it's making it as hard for everyone that isn't a white man to vote, even if a fair few of the white men also lose their rights. As long as they come out ahead, those white men that do lose their rights are just fodder.
Snooj
The problem with requiring ID to vote is that every form, even a state ID, costs money. It turns voting into a paywall. So I would fully support needing an ID to vote if we made it free to get an ID and you could get one on voting day.
Zanzetuken
I mean, getting an ID should be free anyway. You kinda sorta need one, even if you don't drive, but I have to pay for this thing you make me need (damn hard to prove who you are without one) ? So ipso facto I'd have to pay to vote? Hilarious, because the poorest are the ones voting red, and ergo more likely to not be able to pay for an ID, so then by their laws wouldn't be allowed to vote.
CrumpetsWithHoneyAreCrumpetsWithBeeVomit
This will not pass the senate? Really?
66gent
Y'all act like this law, if passed, would be enforced equally across the board. The reality is it'll only be enforced in blue counties.
wandermanspacebot
States run their own elections though so it wouldn't matter.
FlyingButtPliers
Good ole boy counties will break the law enough that nobody can complain until they cheat enough to win. Probably. They already have laws like you can vote once you're in line, but giving someone water or food or bathroom breaks is not allowed. Big cities / poor / minority places have very few voting mahines
mithiwithi
Trump wants to change that. I don't think he'll be able to without starting Civil War II, but he wants to.
Metalsmith21
Do they think the average cheeto worshiping rural fucktard ever leaves their state much less has a passport?
TheRedBaron8
You can thank the heritage foundation for that vile piece of legislation
CASchoeps
You are assuming that the rule is enforced equally everywhere. I would bet anything that Joe Hillbilly walking in with a Trump flag will not be asked for his passport, but everyone who is not white will definitely be.
pravetz
Like Jim Crow laws, this passport requirement will only be enforced on people likely to vote democratic
pravetz
Pro tip: yes the identities of political parties changed since the early 20th century, and the party enforcing him crow back then was the dixiecrats
wandermanspacebot
Is there any congressperson recommending people have a passport to vote or is this just more nonsense that made it to the front page because of gullible people?
Carl99
They're actively trying to make it law right now.
wandermanspacebot
Source me.
Roqinn
I have a passport and have yet to use it. I had planned on going to Europe this year, but with the increase in prices, I can't afford it. /sigh Maybe after he's dead....
hotaru251
honestly I am hoping they get all the "requiring proof" they want...and then lose and they can not blame "stolen/rigged" ever again and get the "youre just losers in the end after all"
Also if they try to pass this take it SCOTUS as passports have a cost & take a while to get sent out after you order one....this is not gonna float as you have made voting behind a paywall & risk of not getting in delivered in time due to backlog if everyone is ordering one.
messedabout
They to poor
OnyxTurret
They will also likely only enforce it in "select areas".
bikergeek6249
A lot of NYC residents have passports even though they never travel outside the US. It's because they never learned to drive and use a passport as ID in lieu of a driver's license. They could get a non driver ID from NY DMV but that last for five years and a passport lasts ten; furthermore their local post office is almost certainly more convenient than the nearest DMV office.
mcalughl
I lived in Buffalo and my mom once yelled at me for letting my passport expire. Her quote was basically "you never know when you will need to leave the country in a moments notice and carry cash."
Redshadow09
Half of me wants them to pass the Bill the other half doesn't because reason. Mostly because I want a challenge. But to want them to pass it and see as most of their base gets fucked for not having a passport and demanding to vote and being hauled out with handcuffs because they cant would be interesting videos to watch online.
BronyDanza
http://americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/01/SAVEact-tables.pdf
CelestialSea
It's not about the percentage of people who own passports. It's just a tool they can selectively enforce to repress only specific voters, same as the literacy tests they used to use which were mostly given to black voters.
Kats8652
No no let them shoot themselves in the foot.
bikergeek6249
"Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake."
blaghart
The SAFE act is currently working through congress trying to ban anyone from voting if their name doesnt match their birth certificate. Which would include everyone whose name changed after they got married
suiseiseki
A small consolation is that all of the women in my family kept their maiden names after marriage. Still, total dick move from the dick-tater.
JasonMacza
It won't pass
danimals847
I remember when I had your level of optimism
kyro
It would also include people like me, who were born in broke-ass hospitals that didn't notarize birth certificates, not realizing some dipshit 40 years later would make it necessary for me to vote.
TheFoodBaby
It will be in favour of all those cousin bangers since they share the same last name
Rijacki
This is well within the tenants of the Heritage Foundation's concept of women as 2nd class and that only the head of the household, i.e. the husband, should be allowed to vote.
cousteau
Wonder how many women essentially voted to forfeit their own right to vote, and how many of them are related to the women who fought for their right to vote a century or so ago.
MadamPuddifoot
Isn't it a part of project 25?
Ack210
That would ban JD Vance from voting.
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cousteau
How does that apply to women but not to James Bowman? I mean, I get it's different because he changed his name because he fucking wanted to whereas married women are kinda coerced by tradition, but doesn't his name differ from what he was born as after all?
cousteau
Can we please start deadnaming him?
PikpikCeleriac
Sure what's his deadname?
cousteau
James Bowman.
RealRaceRiotsAreAboutGettingBlueshelledInMarioKart
You mean Jimmy "Couch Fucker" Bowman?
nclu
We can all still call him Couch Fucker
onlymostofthetime
i call him JV Dance
darkninja2992
JV Dunce
itdoesntmatternoneofthismatters
And Ted Cruz. And Donald Drumph (or was the name changed before him?)
abmoraz
This is just a heat map of "percentage of each state that isn't dirt poor". The correlation between "net wealth" and "owns a passport" is probably .95. So this is exactly what the republicans want: a poll tax to keep the poors from voting
cousteau
Yeah, I feel like whoever made the original post was thinking that red states having fewer people being able to vote would somehow mean fewer electoral votes coming from those states, and therefore less republican representation.
CuddlyCynic
And they're oblivious to the fact that poor whites are pretty much the only reason most of them hold office.
NinjablazerZero
They aren't, they know and understand that. This is just meant to further disenfrachise women and minorities. Yeah they will lose a bunch of poor whites, but a lot more women and minorites will also lose access to voting, so it will be a net gain for them at the end of the day.
It's calculated. Sacrifice a few poor whites to hurt a lot of marginalized groups.
gablestout
Not to be THAT guy (OK, maybe I was...), but I just ran the numbers. The correlation between avg. household income and percent of individuals over 18 with a U.S. passport is 0.81.
NotSomoneElse68
Also, even if only one person votes, they still get the Electoral College.
TheAngriestBeardman
Their voter base is literally the poors.
casualgenderquestion2718
not really, it’s the petit bourgeois
casualgenderquestion2718
and the lumpenprole silly enough to think he’s on track for billions
LostCaterpillar
No, their voter base are the suburban big–truck crowd who think driving an hour to work makes them rural.
MeowWoof
Yeah, but they don't own passports because the people talk funny in other countries.
diepgat
I dont understand how passport ownership can be below 95% or so.
Are they counting young kids or something?
America is so fucking weird man
somethingdark
We don't need passports to travel to other states
dynamojoe
You think in a country without national healthcare, no national maternity/paternity leave, no mandatory vacation time, slimming workers' rights and a rapidly growing wealth gap that travel is going to be encouraged? They don't want us to travel because that would let us see first hand that the horror stories we're fed about other countries are lies.
Eiladar
Sounds suspiciously like North Korea. Not that you're _wrong_ ...
gablestout
The U.S. is HUGE. Literally 96.5% of the size of the entire continent of Europe, which has 44 countries in it. That's why so many Americans don't have a passport.
MoopsyLD
its also why we find a canyon so fascinating or have the Largest X in the world. we are a very boring country aside from the left and right side of the country
davebarton315101
The country is huge, three thousand miles east to west and two thousand from Canada to Mexico. Just totally different from Europe.
B3N15
If you aren't traveling internationally, you don't need one.
unluckyandbored
Most Americans never leave the US (either because of financial reasons, or just no desire to leave). If you're not leaving, what do you need a passport for? You have to remember, Americans are some of the most heavily propagandized people on the planet. They really do believe their own bullshit that they're the greatest country on Earth. And when you think that, why the hell would you want to go anywhere else?
Kiares
Costs money, some people barely have a pot to piss in
thegreatninjaman
cause it cost 135 fucking dollars and the post office is only open during the work week.
69Voltage
Most Americans never leave their state, much less the country
Rijacki
Or even their hometown/county. Often they don't even travel to other parts of their hometown or county. Several times in my life I have moved to a new town/city in the US and, within a month or two, knew more about other parts of that town/city and surrounding county than those who had lived there for generations. I could mention a location, a point of interest, and they would be clueless about it. My having lived in other places was, in many of those towns, seen as incredibly remarkable.
suiseiseki
Most Americans hardly leave their hometowns. People look at me like I have 5 heads if I tell them I've lived across the USA and have visited most states. "You said you were from State A but you were born in State B?" I just default to whatever answer is the least likely to make their brains cook off these days.
ptrimg
Lisbon - Moscow, 2400 miles
San Francisco - Boston, 2690 miles
Seattle - Miami, 2700 miles
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AmazingNoodleSmuggler
Are you not required to have a passport when travelling between states? I can just compare to the EU, where you can travel with just national id card, but passport usually makes it simpler.
JustABookworm
We don't require passports to travel between states, we need them only when traveling out of the country
MonsoonGibby
Don't give them any ideas. But no, passports aren't required to go from one state to another.
Froggie243
Nope. There's no border crossing. You just drive, walk, etc.
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AmazingNoodleSmuggler
Thanks! I just assumed it'd require a passport, since so many regulatory things seem to differ between states, like some laws, car registrations, etc. It's hard to keep track of the rules in a different country on a different continent 😊
nameisunavailable
You can enter Canada with an enhanced drivers license. No passport required.
fractalsphere
So many people in the US are almost literally trapped and can't travel internationally for money or language reasons. (Native english speakers growing up in the US do NOT get other language education, unfortunately)
Rijacki
They won't, by choice, even travel to see another county, not even one that's adjoined to their own, or explore all parts of their own town/city outside of their very confined neighbourhood. And, it is 100% by choice. They don't want to see anything different, especially if it might happen to expose them to something different/new.
suiseiseki
And the language education we do get is crap. I took Spanish every year of my education through university and every single one of them just retread the same basic bits of grammar and classroom objects.
modus0
I took two years of Spanish in high school (2 years of non-English language was required in the state and the school), and we barely got to about halfway through the book by the end of the second year. We never reached a point where we could hold a conversation in Spanish.
suiseiseki
That was a problem for every single class I took. Never once did we learn how to converse save for introducing ourselves. Never learned how to order food. Never learned how to call for help. Never learned the nuances that could take a genuinely innocent statement or question and have it sound like something revolting on the other side of the language barrier.
fractalsphere
Both you and suiseiseki's experiences were by design. We had an absolutely phenomenal Spanish teacher at my HS who was booted just a few weeks into the semester for this white lady who only conjugated verb types with us and never did any conversation or actually..useful language for us to use in life.
abmoraz
I'm in my 50s and don't have a passport. I can't fly for medical reasons. Even when I played hockey back in my youth, we didn't need a passport to ride the bus over to Canada. If at some point I decide to take a cruise ship to Europe or the Caribbean, I can get one, but as of now, there's just no reason for me to get one.
theobituator
There is if you want to vote!
abmoraz
I don't need a passport to vote in my state. I've voted in every election (even the off-year local elections) since I turned 18.
cousteau
That statement, along with "I can get one", might be subject to change in the near future, so it might be a good idea to consider getting one just in case…
ipointoutnahtzeesbyreplyingtothem
Getting a US passport ***as a native citizen*** takes an hour or two, can cost over $100, and processing takes several weeks or months. If you don't know anything about something, perhaps the better response is to not say anything at all?
gablestout
Dude, you can get passport pictures anywhere. You can even take a selfie. They should you how to do it. The expected time to complete the DS-11 is literally 30 minutes. For your first passport, you make an appointment at the post office or library to deliver your official documents and verify everything. Another 20-30 minutes. Renewals can be mailed in. And a passport lasts TEN YEARS. You're making it sound like some excruciating experience. It's not.
Zanzetuken
I had to go to a courthouse, my local libraries and post offices didn't offer rhat service. But still, the time and convenience is not the reason people don't have passports here. The real problem is a few hundred bucks to spare is something people living in poverty don't have. And then if they get it, they can't afford flights to anywhere that will require a passport anyway. And then if you're getting one for yourself, spouse + any kids? That adds up.
wandermanspacebot
A whole hour or two? $100? Several weeks? Wow, super inconvenient and not doable.
Zanzetuken
Don't know what they're on about with the time because that was negligible. The cost was more in the $300 range though, which for a lot of folks living paycheck to paycheck won't have. Flights are also hundreds of dollars that people don't have, so it's kinda like "why get a passport when I can't afford to go anywhere that needs one anyway?"
Frostedjakes
It's never been $300. A brand new -not a renewal- passport for an adult is $165. Renewals are less.
Zanzetuken
I think I conflated the cost of my wife's and mine, because we got them at the same time. Still valid though, because even 165 bucks is something a lot of folks don't have sitting around. And if you are married the cost still would be 300 bucks because well what you're gonna get one and not your spouse? And then if you have kids? Hundred bucks here and there adds up. And again, how would you afford a flight? Guess driving to Canada would be possible, but that also adds cost.