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DerkatBaron
Yea that's really relatable
NeonKitsune
Progressive in Indiana here, I feel this deep in my heart.
afmgreentea
When we bought a house, we moved out of the only blue district in our state. We love the house, but the politics? Not so much
deemcgrath6
I feel this shit in my core.
Zeddicuszull
I live in banjo country and I do dnd with three Mormons and a creationist. Takes all of my willpower to not stab them.
InconspicuousLampshade
You should do a campaign with Book of Mormon as the setting, but then again they might take to it too well.
NotAHugeSpider
You're consistently rolling higher than I would be.
Hefelump
*weeps in Mississippi*
DarkLordofthePuns
Cries in Texan
NuclearButtPlugFromPlanetX
Same.
Ironprophet71
Living in Southern Orgeon, I feel ya. #samsies
bubbarex901337
Minnesota has turned to the dark side. Seemingly more and more each day
morninggloryshade777
Oh lord, you nailed it. Almost 3 yrs in the Deep South and life sucks more each day. It's oil vs water:(
tony1l
literally we are under a Red threat, in so many ways
Richter12x2
And scream and do burnouts and shoot guns at the house of the neighbor who put a Biden sign up.
AutoFox
New Hampshire here. We used to be solidly blue, but the red has been creeping in over the last couple of elections and I'm afraid it >>
AutoFox
>> might hit critical mass soon. I'm doing what I can, but...
ICannotSanctionURBuffoonery
Civil War or not, the country is splitting into States WITH human Rights, and without. I feel for those without, but we're ALL fucked.
squirreltactics
Being in a purple state, spotting some is obvious, however, you have to be careful b/c you never know if they're stacked in a trenchcoat.
jtthemediocre
Please send more voting adults to Kentucky.
PantlessThunderGoose42
Alabama FTW. Google Lindy Blanchard or Tim James. Legit candidates in the race for Governor. Total. Shitshow.
SkamanSam
This is ecactly how i felt growing up in north carolina.
TheSecondPiewackit
Rural Washington, surprisingly. I managed to keep the Anti-CRT candidate from getting elected by pointing out he's a creationist. Weird.
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Drix1942
Hehehehehe, niceness. :D
RocksNSocks
It was a weird election.
cabbageisdelicious
Eastern Washington is really just western Idaho
FirstPrimeAcceptOrigin
From there. Can confirm. Sucked growing up in a super red town as a dem
TheSecondPiewackit
*May have, but it looked likely
HsuDoNihm
Thanks. Doin' god's work right there... cuz he's nowhere around to do it himself.
ArtisZ
Nice.
Becker37
Wrong. With toddlers, although you have to appease them, you are in control. It's also unlikely they will kill you/get you killed.
RandAIFlagg
honestly I've lost interest in if they make it through the day. I'm done trying to help people actively making their own situation worse.
IdiotSavantTinker
*weeps in Oklahoma *
happyrabbitzz
Grew up there; moved away permanently in mid 80's. I can't imagine putting up with daily references to people's invisible sky friend(s).
101Medic
Bring it in, Oklahomie. We'll piss into the wind together.
ImpossibleAgenda
*sobs in Ohio*
Erikrtheread
Ugh yes. It's bad.
Getshanked
*exasperatedly exhales in Missouri*
mckwilly
*cries in Utah*
OriginalAndWitty
Can't even get 1 of the 4 US HOR seats even though there are at least 33% dems here. Representative government myass.
Gayforbae
Gurl, same
CookieMonstersCrumbs
There's dozens of us
thrillhousegaming
I am part of the dozen
UmmonPrime
the news has been bleak around here lately... this is why a lot of my friends have left the state.
Kennisibueno
I'm leaving for the exact same reason. No one I care about is staying and I hate it here
manhands
Ran out of tears in Texas. Just waiting for elections.
SenfinaZeit
I live in Alaska so my vote doesn't even count.
Noldona
* hysterically breaks down in rural Florida *
KingMidas123
oscillatingdogfan
F
MrsGroovy
Sincerely, Vexed in Verdigris.
lrrigSleepStar
Here in Claremore!!
zorlonjones
*sighs in Tennessean*
mustbethedragon
Sighing with you. At least there's two of us.
turbovagina
3 now
Beattywill80
Hey, it's all gonna be OK
morninggloryshade777
Prove it.
oscillatingdogfan
Wife and I almost moved to Tulsa from the west in 2018 as part of a paid relocation program the state was putting on. We got turned down /1
oscillatingdogfan
I found the email while clearing out old archives recently. Emailed them back a thank you for not letting us make that mistake /end
IdiotSavantTinker
Yup they were offering remote workers "up to" $10,000 to move here. They could try making it a place worth living in but noooo
Itcanbedone
Problem is the house is owned by the toddlers and you are forced to live there.
DasUberMoif
Toddlers aren't this unreasonable
itsjustplaid
....and the toddlers are in charge.
morninggloryshade777
The Kindergartners are running the University....
jursamaj
I feel this in Ohio, and especially at work. I literally have to babysit one of my closest co-workers. Can't understand 24 hour (1/2)
jursamaj
clock, can't use the computer or work phone, but has *strong* opinions about what people wear & eat. (2/2)
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
*waves from Montana
SrirachaJunkie
Same here. Its painful. I remember growing up this state was a lot more "purple" until the rich out of staters moved in
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Yeah we moved here 3 yra ago not realizing how red it is here.
egirl4egirl
They literally smeared shit on the walls during the Jan 6th insurrection. Like actual poop. On the actual walls.
lbe508
Beautifully put; that’s exactly how I feel in GA
Jrb291
Same!
DarkLadyAlannah
I'm here now, I don't like it here, somehow AZ was better. Need to leave cause my allergies anyway, but really that just makes it feel worse
Sakera
Hello fellow Georgian. It is not any better down here by the Swamp.
iamthelawl
That’s because the further south we go the FL zone starts creeping up on you. Will never move back to FL. 2 years was enough.
iamthelawl
I’m with you. Augusta feels like a black hole of stupidity I have to fight to keep from falling into.
kiramog
You must not have been to Vidalia; now that's a black hole.
iamthelawl
Been through a number of times omw to FL to visit family. Yeah, Vidalia strikes me as that.
rivenmyr
I’m in Carrollton and…yeah. Confederate flag license plates as far as the eye can see. Alabama tends to leak over here a lot.
skibitybebop
Same... I'm near Helen.. *shudders*
ValorousVisage
I avoid anywhere not metro-Atlanta area pretty strictly. Last time I drove to Florida it was like a PowerPoint in Anti-abortion billboards.
relsky
Even the metro area is getting pretty bad... there's just a lot more pushback.
BassClefChef
I’m a white Norcrossian and I feel more at home in the Asian and Hispanic plazas than the all-white Publix refuges in North Gwinnett.
BassClefChef
Oh, man, as soon as I read GA above, I thought about Augusta! Fuck that place! The capital of "I'm not racist, but..."
iamthelawl
Lol I’m with you there. It’ll always be home, but damn I need to get out of here. Though with the current heading maybe leave the US.
BassClefChef
I’m from Metro ATL, but we spent 5 yrs in Augusta (Evans). Good friends there, but so much Old South Money and so much prejudice.
TheRealPumpkinQueen
I've lived/explored a lot of the US, UK, and Canada. Never felt more in immediate danger than living here in GA now.
Kerdnerl
well, that's horrifying to hear since I, a pansexual, am planning on moving down to georgia to be with my trans girlfriend
iamthelawl
For as backwards Augusta, GA is, I feel we have a decently active and open LGBTQ community than you’d think we would. So mileage may vary
morninggloryshade777
Wouldn't advise it unless Stacy Abrams wins the governor spot!
Einherion
I don't think you would be in specific physical danger, but I don't think culturally they would approve or understand.
Einherion
And can always arm up and conceal carry should you feel it's a tangible issue.
elementalcreations
You and your SO need to be armed and very comfortable with your firearm of choice. Where are you headed to?
Kerdnerl
we're planning on moving into or near clarksville soon as possible
TheRealPumpkinQueen
Way north of me, might be better there. But definitely look for supporting groups.
parkerh17
Where at in GA? The rural parts can get sus but Atl and Savannah aren't nearly as bad.
morninggloryshade777
In an ATL suburb. Feels like backwoods 1800s....
TheRealPumpkinQueen
Southeast, Cairo. It's... a shallow undercurrent.
varyael
Being a progressive conservative, i feel the same way. The days of Roosevelt/Eisenhower are dead, replaced with GOP insanity
jrntn
Being a progressive conservative, you're either lying about being progressive or about being conservative. Maybe to us, maybe to yourself.
darkninja2992
Honestly, can we just use some black magic or something to make T. Roosevelt's ghost possess someone and have them run for president?
cepacolusmaximus
pRoGrEsSiVe cOnSeRvATiVe? Fuck you and your made up distinctions, asshole. Ooh look! I'm Dry Water! I'm Dirty Soap! I'm Tasty Shit!
varyael
You sure showed me
MarioBoon
Stop deluding yourself. a progressive conservative doesn't exist. You're a democrat who doesn't has the balls identify as one.
SimiKusoni
As an outside observer that frequently travels to the US I would just highlight that things have, in many ways, actually improved in the US!
SimiKusoni
Only a decade ago if I had mentioned gun control on imgur or amongst US friends I'd have been shunned, climate change was controversial and
SimiKusoni
discussing inequality was tantamount to talking about alien abductions. Things might seem more polarized but it is, at least in part, due to
SimiKusoni
increased awareness of and a willingness to discuss and attempt to address the flaws and problems that the US is facing.
RedWingedBlackbirds
Thanks you in American
PraiseThePook
True, but it certainly stirred up the entitled psychos.
alex5775
Problem is the generations who are at the forefront of this social change are years away from being geriatric enough to hold office
bekkayya
same as it ever was, same as it ever was
varyael
Don't blame me that Republicans put shit candidates up in the primary
bekkayya
And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?"
varyael
I'm not a Republican, why would vote for them?
urboyevan2
What conservative values would you say you support? Are you one of those “fuck you I got mine” conservatives? Because lower taxes isn’t …
urboyevan2
conservative anymore. It’s very obvious by the tax plans that have been put forth.
varyael
My conservative values are that we have a bunch of government agencies and programs that need to be improved on so it's cheaper to run
mikeatike
Your "equal rights" means "keep things as they are", which just happens to benefit a straight white male.
varyael
Not even close. Nice assumption though. Definitely made yourself out to be an ass
varyael
Once we have a balanced budget and a streamlined government, liberals can enact new policies. I have no qualms against equal rights for all
jrntn
(conservative presidents increase the deficit, liberal presidents lower it. Wanting to balance the budget is not a conservative value.)
varyael
You're confusing lowering the deficit with borrowing from social security trust fund. Read into it
varyael
Tax codes and tax dodging are a mess, this needs to be solved. Middle and lower class taxes are too high compared to corps/wealthy
varyael
Minimum wage should be tied to inflation. No corp with full time workers should have employees on food stamps/housing assistance
jrntn
(this is not a conservative value)
jrntn
(most government agencies are already extremely money-efficient compared to private sector equivalents, but some services just cost money.)
varyael
The IRS, who handle all of our money is fucked. The post office is fucked. The VA is fucked. That isnt money efficient, it's non functional
catrlewkins
What's a progressive conservative? Isn't that an oxymoron? Curious for real here, I'm a Swede as well so american politics are weird to me.
BisAndThighHighs
They don't want the gay homeless man to die because he's gay, they want him to die because he's homeless.
TeddyMoment
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_conservatism
mardukkur
Really deeply incoherent I'd say. It's just progressivism "but not TOO much".
mardukkur
Which I'd say describes most members of any group. The radicals are most always a minority.
onehiguy
We want gay married couples to be able to protect their weed with guns. And also call the police if need be.
nlky
That's just a liberal.
nightster07
Is it though?
IAmASentientWaffle
Yes hon.
nlky
Yeah. Liberals are not as far left as you think.
extraDimensionalAnxiety
It's like light cigarettes or diet soda.
varyael
A progressive conservative wants a strong independent country, that means lower poverty rates and bring upper class toward middle class
varyael
Strong infrastructure, manufacturing, distribution, and beneficial trade agreements. It's all common sense stuff in other countries
wartoaster
My dude that's just being progressive.
nesurame
so, conservation through investment?
varyael
Yes, Eisenhower style, low taxes is for when we're running a surplus. Military funds for when we're at war. We have shit that needs fixing
RideTheStimutacs
Basically Canada's Liberal party: Centrist, supports social progress/civil rights, but still driven by Capitalism and big business.
RideTheStimutacs
The US could *really* use a 3 party system. Canada's left (NDP) rarely win, but they get enough support for a minority government.
nightster07
So basically the U.S. Democratic party?
RideTheStimutacs
Yeah, which is why centrist Dems & fiscal Repubs should consider forming their own party. Then a DemSoc party could actually be a thing.
nightster07
I hope so!
Cryolith
It's usually "Fiscally conservative, socially progressive" - they're fine with gay people, just don't raise their taxes to help the poor.
Noughmad
In other words, mainstream Democrats. And its exact opposite is the majority of Eastern Europe.
Ultratoxic
E.g. my dad. Self made businessman, former hippie. Fine with gays, pot, trans, etc, but sees no issues with Nestle buying everyone's water.
mikeatike
Except it has turned out that they are actually bigots when you actually probe them on it.
varyael
No, i want to raise taxes on corps, CONSIDERABLY. Tie minimum wage to inflation. No corp owned single family homes, streamline military 1/2
varyael
Boost VA, pay back SS trust debt, and obviously EVERYONE should have EQUAL rights, this goes for religious and atheist institutions 2/2
NeitiCora
Not trying to drag you, but I see nothing here that suggests conservative. What's the conservative part, in your definition?
slingsarrows
You're a progressive liberal but don't want to admit you're a liberal. It’s ok, it's warm & safe over here…
Cryolith
Literally none of that is conservative? At least not in the modern vernacular.
DonL9
Right. A gay homeless man should be left to die on the streets because he's homeless, not because he's gay.
varyael
I love homeless people. I help them every opportunity I have. I wish they had better services. Corporations should be taxed for that
Cryolith
thepunnypenguin
I would just like my taxes to pay for schools and healthcare, not business bailouts and wars.
varyael
This. This is a progressive ideal for a conservative, it's one of the old values from a bygone type of politics
MaddMatter
Wouldn't that make it regressive?
mikeatike
Ain't nothing conservative about that.
activeracer28
Or they want a limited government that focuses on enabling society and not a government that controls everyone.
T3hi84n2g
See,this here is an oxymoron because you cant help enable society without being a part of it. The limited gov't you fight for is what gives>
T3hi84n2g
> corporate America the space to exploit and control the poor. Gov't regulation is what gave us the 40 hr work week and every other benefit>
rakas90
I think many people think they're conservative because all their lives authoritarianism was conflated with communism.
rakas90
They think they're anti-communist, or at the least right wing, when really they're anti-authoritarian.
DuckPlanetKing
The returdican idea of a limited government is a gvmnt that can tell us who we can fuck and how and also who we ara allowed to marry.
PunchyFromCleveland
Conservatives want the government to control our lives almost completely. It’s been shown over and over again.
GeneralAnubis
Corporations are government too at this point, and it seems most of the "i hate the gubmint" rubes don't seem to realize this
Cryolith
Good thing Conservatives have shown they're so unwilling to regulate people's bodies, bedrooms, health-care, education....
varyael
"Conservative" parties (GOP/Libertarians) have become infested with hard line hot button partisan bullshit. Center blue is conservative
catrlewkins
That sounds... not great either tbh. But thanks for the clarification :)
ashesnghost
Usually i find that people call themselves this, so they can feel like they can have it both ways
6313326
They can (historically, not so much now) also be fine w/ social programs & regulation, but make a point of advocating for focus w/ their ¹
varyael
Everything in your thread is exactly what I'd struggle to put so eloquently
6313326
² scope & lack of bloat. Teddy Roosevelt spearheaded the "Square Deal" & 2x the number of Nat'l Parks.
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