Brave little state.  Proposal 5 outnumbered "no" votes 72%-22%

Nov 9, 2022 9:54 PM

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https://vtdigger.org/2022/11/08/measure-to-enshrine-abortion-rights-in-vermont-constitution-poised-to-pass/

MT had a born alive issue on the ballot that seems to be going no which is good.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Michigan just passed this as well. It includes protection for a lot of reproductive health and automatically invalidates contrary laws.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This is damn near NewHampshire levels of DON'T FUCK WITH ME. Then again the Vermont state motto is "Freedom & Unity", so that fits well too.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The day after I was in a diner and I overheard. “Well they voted to murder babies”. I wanted to throw up and throw fists.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's been part of Colorado constitution since just after roe v wade was overturned

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It is not the first state, lots have already done this. But go vermont!

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Michigan did too today! Prop 3 passed :D

3 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

I'm sorry what?! According to the KS Supreme Court it already has been here.

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This is how they make the blue states break from the fed. When the fed is red again, and it will be, this will be the Mason-Dixon.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Good.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Don't think it's the first but good on ya.

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Weirdly enough kansas already had, reds even tried a ballot initiative to get rid of it and failed

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't come to Missouri. Pretty sure by January we "wouldn''t ain't gonna allow non of them baby killins." And that could be an actual quote.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

So did Michigan even with the massive amounts of misinformation all over the state we barely passed with 57%

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Um, Nevada enshrined abortion rights into it's constitution years ago... So did Oklahoma... A bunch of states actually

3 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

It's been in the KS constitution since like 2019. It was affirmed in the primaries this year.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Pretty sure proposal 3 in Michigan passed too. Same sort of deal.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Passed by a substantial margin

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Afraid it wont matter now that Repubs hold Congress now, advancing a national ban.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thank you, neighbour! Well done!

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Hold on..... Does actually mean that Vermont is actually allowing abortions? Or does this mean they aren't?

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

They are allowing abortion as a right. VT is very liberal.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Oh thank god....For a second there I thought you guys were implying that they weren't.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

For anyone wanting to know, tubal ligation is covered 100% by insurance under the Affordable Care Act. It’s considered birth control 1/2

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I know, because they just cleared mine on Monday!! Now it’s just time to schedule (I’m approaching 36 so docs don’t argue much at this age)

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

.....so anyone know what the housing market in Vermont is like? I prefer having rights.

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

My house has appreciated 125K in the last 4 years and the the real estate inventory is almost non existent. But it is a great place to live

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sadly as expensive as you’d expect northeast to be, but I suppose you get what you pay for

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Crazy in the “cities” and a ton of people moved up from real cities during the pandemic. If you want to live in the middle of nowhere you

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Might be ok. Also good luck finding work. Don’t get me wrong I love VT but it’s definitely not an easy state to live in in some ways.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Vwont doesn't have any cities. They have towns that call themselves cities.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If we ever have to move back to the US, Vermont looks really nice to me.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thanks for the honesty at least, I'm from GA so have a list of states to move to one day, they are easier to knock off the list than add.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Anytime I love VT and if you don’t want to live in the Burlington area you honestly might be ok in a year or two. If you look at any New

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England State near a big city or NY North of NYC or the Adirondacks there was a huge influx of people from the cities moving here during the

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a 36 year old Vermonter, housing market is garbage. I work in home renovations and 90% of our work is out of staters second or third...

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Home/ vacation rentals. out of staters made it super expensive and impossible to be buy.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I lived in VT now I’m in NH and it makes me absolutely bonkers how many people who work and are experiencing homelessness and how many

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Mostly empty second homes there are. Especially in rural ish touristish areas where there are absolutely enough empty homes to have everyone

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Housed. Airbnb is making it worse.

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CA is on its way to approve that as well. Of course I’m in one of the few red counties in the state that voted no. TF is wrong w/ people?

3 years ago | Likes 88 Dislikes 2

KY tried to amend theirs to say "no abortion rights". We no voters for this one are just barely over half.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Which county is that? Cause I think I’m in a red county too…

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Prop 1 is currently underwater in 10 counties, all down near Bakersfield or up near Lassen

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Republicans are idiots who largely are uneducated. End of list.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Most CA counties are red, actually. It’s just fortunate that the 7 or so that aren’t also have the most people in them.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

I want election result maps with by-county tallies to start also including the counties' population size.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

These maps full of red-voting empty space are starting to chafe.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Placer county? That is where I am at. All the mega church crowd of course voted no.

3 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Just checked, prop 1 is currently passing 53-47 in Placer county

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yep...looked that up last night. For all the bible bangers we have that was interesting.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I never paid attention to the politics there until I came home from college & saw all the signs for that old prop banning gay marriage :(

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Prop 8 actually passed in California :/

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Insane

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Prop 8. I lived in a suburb of Sacramento at the time nicknamed "little Moscow" The Russian population there were very homophobic and fully

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supported the banning of gay marriage because it offended their religious beliefs.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

My sister had a yes on 8 poster hung on the ceiling above her bed, in high school. I was a member of gsa. No h8 vote no on 8

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’m hoping my state, MN, will do this too, now that Democrats have control of both chambers!!

3 years ago | Likes 185 Dislikes 2

Also Michigan and Pennsylvania!!

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Let’s do this!

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Probably will Tim has said he will make an effort to keep rights even before the re-election

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Small world. I know Tim!

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I thought MN already had? No? But yeah yest was good for DEMs there:)

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's sad we have to have the majority of seats to advance human rights again

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

And the governor's seat! WE GOT EM ALL!

3 years ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 0

Aw yeah!

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I know! Not to mention Ellison & Simon! So proud of my state!

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

That is bloody amazing isn't it?? Well done ✊️

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Hell YEAH! Sad that Jen Schultz lost to Pete Stauber though. My poor district...

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yes BUT let's not let off pressure. Quite a few Dems want to "work with the GOP" and we need to let them know we voted them in for a reason.

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Ooh, really? I voted but I don't know how to check stuff like that.

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Also https://www.mprnews.org/ never has a paywall

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The Secretary of State website for your state publishes election results as they come in

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You don't know how to google "election results 2022 mn" ???

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And it’s not just about them losing, it’s about reminding them how much of the monitory they are

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*minority

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*moronity

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Fits

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Well-put, good observation. That they are a minority and soon to be completely powerless or extinct even.

3 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

We just have to get nonvoting more left than not people to actually turn up and vote

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Monstrosity?

3 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

That would work too. What other M words fit?

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Mfuckups

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You'd have to change the 'the' to 'a', but; moronity could be a word especially for describing them.

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Marginalized?

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They aren’t marginalised. They are a minority. If a candidate stands for X and the people don’t vote for them, that’s not marginalised

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Margarinized?

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I have FB friends who are mad prop 3 passed in MI, claiming it gives children access to start gender reassignment w/o parental consent --smh

3 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 1

Dump facebook.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

With the exception of Abortion in some States, you can't legally do ANY kind Medical Procedure without informed parental consent. Otherwise>

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

>it's instant Malpractice. Unless it's an ER situation, a Doctor can't even really examine a child, without parental consent.

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what the hell? Did they make that up themselves or are they parotting some fox news pundit?

3 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Sadly, that is the ACTUAL propaganda that's been going around about Prop 3 here. Its all a VERY deliberate misreading of the proposal's 1/2

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

2/2 - wording. If you are ignorant of legal language and the precedence of existing law, the argument sounds real. It is, in fact, total BS.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

And, three of the five churches in my very small MI town had "vote no on 3" signs all over their buildings. How is spending parishioner $

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

on political causes even legal? Not to mention the tax exempt status BS.

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fuck every No voter

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3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You mean "middle aged, religious, white guys"

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Actually this is one place I would stick just with religious. Plenty of religious women actively voting against their own interests here

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Add conservative. Plenty of religious people accept abortion rights.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I'm assuming you're getting down voted because people are misreading your comment

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

Meh, it's more about the idiots in 2022 that keep voting Republican despite the last few years.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Voting should be compulsory IMO. Want your tax return? Better vote!

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'phrasing'

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They shoulda been aborted

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wish I could vote :/ I'm stuck with what everyone else chooses

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I mean, that's a pretty decent spread. I have determined that about 20% of people are going to be shit for any given thing. If its over that

3 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 3

Friend, you ain't kidding. 10% of the VT voters voted to not improve the wording limiting slavery to align with the US Constitution.

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20% then definitely fuck those other people. They should have known better. The first 20 though? Are probably pretty far gone.

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Thank you Kids!!!!

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sweet baby Thor...

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I mean not literally. There, uhh, might, uhh, be some unintended consequences.

3 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 3

Well these people only recognize problems when it immediately concerns them, so..

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

These people are absolutely aware of the problem - that's the point of voting no, as it mainly affects poor people.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Possible unintended pregnancies among the No votes could covert them to Yes voters?

3 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

Yeah, no.

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Hahaha no, they'd get an abortion and still vote no. This isn't about lack of experience, it's about controlling poor people.

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If only it worked that way. The word “hypocrite” exists for a reason.

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Sadly, I'm aware and read enough stories how their abortion was in fact, justified.

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Actually, CA did, too. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-11-08/2022-california-election-proposition-1-abortion-rights-results

3 years ago | Likes 415 Dislikes 1

Yeah but VT polls closed earlier so obviously they did it first /s

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In my county of CA, it did not pass. How gross is that?

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Thank you. Beat me to it as I voted for it.

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Hell yeah to both!!!

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Michigan too ^_^

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Thank you, I was getting ready to be really disappointed in my state, because I remembered voting for this.

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It's been in the KS constitution since like 2019. It was affirmed in the primaries this year.

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Yeah but Eastern time so Vermont technically did it first right?

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Michigan did it too and we're in Eastern time, though if the margin in Vermont was that large I guess they could've called the result first.

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I always forget about you lot hanging out there on the edge!

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holy fuck 35% against though

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Yea.. the state’s 92% white. I went to a fair this fall and there was a half dozen qanon/gop stands that had all but the swatzitkas

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CA isn't even close to 92% white. Whites aren't even the majority population there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California#Demographics

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Oops, thought I was responding to reply about Vermont

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Heh, no worries.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It won big. As most here in the Bear Republic knew it would. Sadly I live in the Texas of northern California and everything went red.

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Okay I only know Bakersfield is soCal Texas. Where is norCal Texas? I'm in Stockton so it's mostly blue luckily.

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Roseville (Placer County)....these people ugh. The big trucks with the Trump 2024 and Let's Go Brandon flags...

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I’m in Orange County and we have a lot of red here :/

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I'm doing that thing where I forget a LOT of CA is red, it's just that where we're blue there's a LOT of people. I'm lucky I live where I 1/

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Do cause I'm trans and gay, and havent been denied services or anything. Mostly just mean looks.

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I think there was a third as well, not sure why Vermont is getting singled out. Unless *technically* their votes were counted an hour or 2

3 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 0

I think New Jersey

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Michigan did as well.

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Vermont is the older twin...

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before the others, in which case it's *technically* true but still a pretty silly claim if that's the case.

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Timezones. They literally did beat the other states by at least an hour.

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2 and 4 hours before. The Internet does like things that are technically true though.

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I fact checked myself, the 3 were CA, VT, & Michigan. Pleasantly surprised, yay Michigan!

3 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 0

Michigan pulled hard blue to the point I'm not even sure it's considered a swing state any more.

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Makes up for Florida, which used to be a swing state but seems hopelessly red now

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Well Michigan was the only blueish state that still had a pre-Roe ban on the books. They had greater urgency.

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I was about to answer but you were too quick for me! Very pleased all the spending on 'no' propaganda had little effect.

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Michigan went through a complete upheaval this round! Very interesting. I need more info about the background of the Ds won so much ground

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