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Stay At Home Dad Job Stuff
This first one used to get to me. There is always a hint of condescension in people's voices when they say it. Even though being a dad at home has been a thing for decades, it still isn't as socially accepted by a lot of folks (age isn't a factor) as it should be.
Aside from the fact that I work two more jobs part time in addition to being a stay at home dad, I don't get to just set around a watch TV all day. There is everything that goes with being a home maker as well: cleaning, laundry, dishes, errands (lots of freaking errands), and of course taking care of the kid. If I did get to set down and watch TV, it would be something my kid wants to watch.
Long story short, I was laid off about 4 months before my daughter was born. I was an insurance agent for a bank that decided it didn't want to do insurance any more. It didn't catch us off guard, but still was an inopportune time for us.
Because of how FMLA works and unemployment, it didn't make sense for me to get a new job at the time, so I waited. (Don't get me wrong, I looked for work, and did my due diligence for the unemployment system, but the end of the day I didn't get a paid job that replaced my previous income.) Before I knew it my wife's 3 month FMLA leave were up and I had keys to a used minivan.
As much as I said it kind of just happened, my wife and I did do some math. By the time we calculated all the costs like wardrobe, lunches, commuting, and daycare costs we found that me staying home was cheaper.
For those who don't know, the average cost for infant and toddler care in middle America is around $250 a week on the low side. That is professional care. You might save money with a babysitter who isn't state certified, but then you are dealing with someone you may not know or with someone who may get sick and leave you stuck without care.
Beyond that, most daycare programs are setup for 8-5, M-F job schedules and not all jobs are like that anymore. Even if I found one like that, it paid really well, and I loved it there would be a disconnect in raising the kid.
Yeah, sure I'd like to dive something shiny and pants dropping fast, but to be honest, the minivan grew on me. I used to drive an old pickup and liked that I could carry stuff in the bed. I can still haul 4x8 plywood and 2x4s around on the roof of the minivan. I never could do that for the brief time (2 years while I was still single) I owned a sports car. Plus, putting kids in and out of a low roofed car is a pain in the neck (literally).
Oh, and have you seen the doo-hickies they put in the vans these days? Shit, it's like flying a space shuttle!
This is honestly true, but it's not the reason I'm home. More than that, I love my family and right now this is what works so I do my part.
I'll admit some days are easier than others. My wife has come home to me handing her the 'reigns' and me walking out the door to get a beer. But, the couple of times when the kid has gone to grandma and grandpa's house I've missed having her around.
I'm a stay at home dad. That is more than 40 hours a week. Just because mom is home doesn't mean I'm off the clock (above example not withstanding). Usually, she needs her personal time to recharge and go bring home bacon.
But, I also work for my church as a Worship Director (another job album there) and I'm a musician (yet another job album to come). All in all I'm constantly working trying to bring in an extra buck here and there.
(At one point, I also built furniture out of my basement, but I almost lost a finger one too many times and I sold most of my big tools off.)
I've been on two long family vacations since I started staying at home and both wore me out more than just being home. Imagine if you went on vacation but had to bring your work with you and accomplish the same level of productivity only now you are in a setting where all of your work and livelihood could suddenly fall into the Grand Canyon. Now that is stressful!
In the hospital, I changed the first diaper. It was like an oil slick combined with week old Indian food and, well, shit. My wife had us do cloth diapers which are disgusting to wash no matter how you do it.
Now, three and a half years later I've done potty training to death and there are still the occasional accidents which require me to literally touch human feces. I could use gloves, but the weird thing is you don't think that way until after you've scrubbed your daughter's bedroom floor for the billionth time. You just clean and wash your hands over and over and over.
These pop up every quarter or so. It's always about how much a woman should get paid. It never even theorizes that men may be doing these jobs too.
Beyond that, it's all bullshit because if you didn't stay home you would still have someone looking after your kid, you would still do laundry, run errands, make dinner, etc. Just because you are doing that instead of going to work doesn't necessarily mean that your spouse or the government owes you money.
I wanted to mention this for a few reasons. First, having the other jobs makes me need to get some time to actually do them. My kid is up to three days a week from 9:00 to 3:00 (basically school hours) at a PDO program. It's cheaper than full daycare and she gets to interact with other kids which is good for her. But then I have to go to work (or sometimes come home and try to clean while she isn't around). It's a small amount of time when I consider travel to and from, but it's that window of time that I work at much church job (that and Sunday morning).
A secondary thing about this is the community I get with other moms and a few dads. Waiting in line at drop off and you get to know people (though most I know as so-and-so's mom). At first this was a little weird, but it doesn't take long for you to get comfortable with these people when you all share the same burdens. It's nice to know that the struggles I face in raising my kid are common.
(It's also probably very wrong and sexist to say that most of the moms are very pretty and wear yoga pants because their going to the gym for the day. I do my best not to stare, but... um... yeah... And I'm not the only dad there that thinks so.)
This is an actual comment from someone who I was talking about this with. Caught me off guard since I thought well of the person before this. I'm no longer friends with them.
Truth is, our marriage is hard. But, all marriages are hard. If they aren't you are probably missing something. My wife would much rather be the one home as she misses our girl. I'd love to be able to bring more money in than I do. But, we both respect our roles where they are. Even more now that we have a second child on the way (yeah, my life is really going to change).
The key (and I don't want to sound like I'm some sort of guru, 'cause I'm not) is to talk about everything no matter what it is. Get it out, realize that you two aren't going to agree on everything, and in the end keep loving, kissing, and hugging each other. The physical intimacy can't stop or the relationship will start to suffer.
ICouldntGetTheNameIWanted
Hey OP, I'm a late teenager male and cause of how I grew up I can't wait till I can be a dad, a stay at home one would be my dream :D go you
osoman
Us dads do it better!
TeardropIvy25
$60,000 to put my kid in daycare (I have the receipts to prove it) from 12 months to 6 years old. Good for you for stepping up dad.
AaronSilvious
I've been a single father for 9 years on the 19th. It gets easier. She's my best friend.
HeWantsThePharmD
I thoroughly appreciate the thought it took to come up with this. Very interest. You truly earned my upvote sir!
manwithnofirstname
I'm a S.A.H.D. During the day and bartender at night. I'm not so accepting of my day job, but it's what works.
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Im not a parent, but im pretty sure I'd rather be raising my child than working some shit job about something i dont care about.
srirachaisgod
Great post! Really puts things into perspective. Good luck with the second kid!
morrissimo
Holy yes to the "vacation" one - I refer to them as "trips" because vacations they ain't
wererat2000
Now I'm not a parent as far as I know, but I have a gut feeling that I would cut these people out of my life if they said that shit to me.
Ugoob
There's a huge difference between being a stay at home parent and staying home because you don't work.
GLORYTOHYPNOTOAD
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mrmikehd
Respect OP
FaxCelestis
When I was a SAHD, my biggest issue was getting glared at whenever I took my kid to the park like I was some sort of pedo.
thatguywhoatepie
My biggest dream is to be a stay at home father. If its acceptable for women to be stay at home parents it should be acceptable for me too.
awkwardmumbles
You're awesome, forget the haters! My husband and I are planning to do just this when we have a kid. He can't wait to be a stay-at-home Dad
iLikeLanguageandJustWanttoHelpplsdonthitme
You seem like a great person. I like you. :)
Illuminnaughty
You go, Mr. Dad.
FlyingTarantula
+1! You mentioned poop and bacon.
JrElmoe
I would love to be a future stay at home dad. Sure it's tiring to take care of kids, but in about 1-2 years it becomes fun.
Beckinpdx
@lindydanny you'd be surprised that as a SAHM I hear all of these too. As for the daycare. I watch my SIL's 1.5 yr old for free due to this.
lindydanny
Yeah, I've talked a lot with other Stay at Home parents and it all seems the same. There is sexist shaming on both ends.
vendommias
Also a stay at home dad. I love that my daughter takes long naps but I can't be noisy during that time so I usually end up playing games.
hetjr
I cant get game time :( but she loves when i play guitar. She gets mesmerized!!!
Ihaveadjustedwell
You missed a point about daycare and the advantage of raising your own kids vs someone else raising them.
lindydanny
It takes a village...
VagisilToothpaste
OMG...you don't SET down...you SIT down.
lindydanny
Sorry. I usually catch that sort of thing. I guess even dads are human.
ARavenousChimp
My Dad was stay at home Dad since I was 10 and my Brother 6, carried a fulltime job the whole way. It certainly isn't easy. Much respect /1
ARavenousChimp
To all the fathers out there who step up and take care of their children. No matter the situation. I'm not a father yet (23) but posts /2
ARavenousChimp
Like this, and stories like my Dad and a few of my friends Dads give me something to aspire to. Great job, and good advice :) (fin.) 3/3
stygian0
SAHD here as well. You hit the nail right on the head. And don't forget people calling you the mom. Pisses me off so bad.
lindydanny
Yeah, the sexism runs real deep in this world. Same for SAH-Moms too. People just need to let it be...
hetjr
Lol i thought i was gonna have sooo much free time for xbox and guitar and cool dad stuff. hahahahaaaa. NOPE!
lindydanny
Exactly what I thought at first... I always describe it as all the free time you can't use.
hetjr
EXACTLY. btw, guess who wanted to get up at 1:30am?!
brobinson2001
#1: I was IN THE HARDWARE/LUMBER STORE and some old biddy commented about "Babysitting today?" 1/x
brobinson2001
"No, ma'am, took the next couple months off to bills her room and another bathroom." The look on her face when I paid for 4k in supplies...
brobinson2001
.....in cash...
iLikeLanguageandJustWanttoHelpplsdonthitme
WTH guys? This is a great "at the job" post! :(
ThePastmaster
People getting sick of the trend. *Shrugs*
iLikeLanguageandJustWanttoHelpplsdonthitme
Some people maybe. I sure am not!
rguygo
I was a stay at home dad for a bit. It is not that hard. 2 working parents is so much harder.
lindydanny
It depends on the kid and on the parents and the jobs. My parents both worked and made it work out, but looking back they sacrificed a lot.
hetjr
I think it depends on the kid. We have a chronic ear infection baby. So there's that.