Or just being familiar with common pop media??? Lol its staged so its a story - a somewhat tropey one. I dont think having a little intuition to understand the likely outcome to a staged event is a trauma response.
That's fine. That's your opinion, and your life. Others have different opinions. It's not an new concept. Also, who says marriage is about proving anything to anyone else? You're making assumptions to deride someone else's decision about what they want to do with their own life. Just live your life, and let others live theirs.
I would have preferred a coherent defense of rejecting religious conformity and that their partnership was clearly stronger than those who felt they needed cultural chains to bind them into an agreement they otherwise wouldn't want to continue.
I'm glad it was staged because as someone with an ideological position on why I'd not get married (fuck the church or the State or any other fucker telling me how to love) some dude trying to "shame" me in front of a crowd about it would get both barrels.
That's cool to hate marriage but if you have someone you love don't forget you can fleece the government for more money by doing so. Fuck the gov, I'm not for any part of what or how to love based on tradition but I am married. Because taxes. Also we had a kid so might as well get more money from them. That one doesn't balance out as well. Be against kids if doing things for monetary purposes lol.
Meh, if other people want to go for it I'm not judging them, but my position is my position and if people don't like it they're free to place that complaint directly in the nearest available bin.
Am I the only one who thinks the r-word is being thrown around more often now? We fought it off for a while and now people are just okay with it? Can’t we just retire it?
Yeah I'm really starting to hear it more and more. It's this anti woke nonsense. Apparently being a decent human being is woke and asking people to not use slurs is censorship.
#1 Haha, sure, but fuck that. I consider marriage straight/Christian culture conformity. I have been with my partner for many years and we both don't want to get married. That doesn't make any of us assholes, it just makes it clear that we are doing what works for us. If it works for you, fine, but if it works for these guys not to be married, I 100% understand that.
Except depending where you live, technically you're already married. It's called common law marriage. And if things ever go south, they can legally go after you in divorce proceedings.
Lmao, met my wife in high school. I was year 10, she was year 11. Took her to the ball when she was in year 12 and started properly dating after that. That was in 1999. We got married in September 2023. Herr Auntie used to ask us all the time "When are you getting married?" - after a while I just started replying "Every time someone asks us that, it pushes the date back another year." The real reason is we felt that other things were more important, like getting a house.
Ha ha no, that was just a typo. Her Auntie did since retire from being an elementary school teacher and became a "writer", which I have since discovered is just an author that barely does any writing - not even updating their blog - and definitely doesn't get anything published.
It sounds like you're conflating getting married and having a wedding. Getting married, i.e. applying and getting a marriage license, doesn't actually cost that much, and there's advantages like saving money on taxes, etc. If you wanted to wait until you had a wedding you could've just, you know, not told anyone you were married until you had the wedding.
What's the point of getting married without having our family and closest friends there, and a big celebratory party after? We could also have just scribbled on a piece of paper "we're married now" and saved the money on the certificate. No, we wanted to get married, not sign a government contract in an office building.
The point of getting married privately while holding off the public wedding until later is to make your commitment known to the person it maters most to: your partner, now your spouse. And then you reap the legal and financial benefits until the wedding. You were saving up for a house, wouldn't saving on your taxes for years have helped?
You're really invested in this, huh? My wife already knew I was committed. As for legal and financial benefits, after 6 months living together here in Australia you're already defacto, which gives you most of what the piece of paper does. As for taxes, neither of us has ever claimed the other as a dependent, not do we have any kids (don't want them). We did what we wanted when we wanted because we wanted to do it. You might not like it but pal, that's for YOU to talk through with your therapist.
OK, maybe Australian tax law is different, but in the US, being married filing jointly has benefits over each person filing separately, in most cases, typically in a larger tax credit. US Tax filing software will usually compare the different filing methods to see which gets you the biggest refund. But there's also benefits like spousal health rights and advocacy, power of attorney, inheritance, etc. . When my wife died, I got her work retirement account transferred me without penalty.
If the dude who got roasted three years ago saw the comedian was gonna be performing nearby, called him up and set it up ahead of time, that would be a fantastic play
I mean, the comedian went from 'Wait, do I know you?' to immediately dropping their names as he called them on stage. Yeah it's staged and I fucking love it. Good for them.
Ok, that's it everybody. You can all go home. The fun's now over. u/Mycologics has set us all straight. Steve, Brian, you can put the balloons away. I said the fun is over!
So basically, what everyone tells me in the reactions is that marriage in terms of love is not important, but it is functional within a system that doesn't work for many people and getting married is almost an obligation to arrange stuff.
Now I understand all your points, but what you're really saying is that the system is broken and might as well get some cake and a party for it
I mean... Taxes. Also, I'm in Oklahoma and my buddy couldn't move in with his girlfriend of two years because his grandmother said she would cut him off financially if he did (for those of you in sane countries, we were all in college and the grandmother was paying for it). Either mane college affordable or pay people a good living). Now they are finally married with kids and will probably split up. He was in his 20s back teen. She is out of his league in every way.
In the US, there are over 200 legal benefits for being married vs being single. If marriage isn't right for you that's fine, but it is factually an important legal distinction.
In the USA it is: decisions involving children, medical decisions, inheritance, and rights all involve that piece of paper. It's why gays fought so hard to get married: if your long-term girlfriend of 15 years is in the hospital on life support, you have no say in her care, but her estranged relatives do.
Again I understand all these reasons. But it's insane that a marriage is necessary. This comedian is shaming him because "you gotta out the girl on lock"
What you say is, its necessary because the system is broken.
Seems to be the top reason to live for most people, i never got that. Dont you know your partner loves you without it. I married my wife purely because we were emigrating and that made things simpler. By then we were together for 15y.
Aside from the legal advantages, I proposed because I wanted to make sure she knew I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. It's another level of commitment, both public and private.
I want a ring, proposal, conversation brought up by him, we can put off marriage, but it's been 3 years and I want to know he has made the commitment aside from affirming it when I ask him.
As someone who had multiple long-term relationships growing up, my perspective of "marriage isn't necessary/ for me" flipped the moment I met my current wife and was mature enough to truly and mutually love someone. So if you feel this way, maybe you just haven't met the right person at the right time in your life yet.
As someone who is married to the right person... The actual marriage isn't important to me. Yeah, I like getting to call him "my husband", but our love is the same. I made the commitment, I knew I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. The piece of paper didn't change anything. Saying "you haven't met the right person at the right time" sounds like you're diminishing the love other people share with their non-married partners.
Our gay brethren wouldn't be continuously fighting for their right to get just a "piece of paper," and if that's all it is to you, then why did you even bother getting married? Sounds like you're diminishing the marriage people share with their love partners, and suggesting that it somehow changes or improves the quality of your relationship versus non-married couples, or is just about titles, is missing the importance of it entirely if you ask me.
I fully understand that for many people it is very important. For me, it was mostly out of practicality, and the fact that my partner is one of those people that finds it important. I think any consenting adults should be able to get married if they want it, and it's outrageous if they can't. I just wanted to say some people not desiring marriage in their lifelong relationship is okay. Just like it's okay that marriage is a must-have in someone else's relationship. Neither is "better". 1/2
2/2 yes, I am probably missing the importance you ascribe to it. But we are different people with different views. My autistic ass also often has trouble truly understanding others, but I do try to stay openminded and live a life where we don't decide that (non harmful) life choices/preferences make one person/relationship better than the other. Out of a genuine wish to understand: would you be willing to message me what the importance of marriage is to you?
Being in a life long committed relationship is not important. But if you're in one, getting married absolutely is important. The legal benefits are too numerous to list. Inheritance, power of attorney, and even divorce are important.
yup. In Finland, If you have, say a house or a flat together, worth like 200 000 €. Without being married and not having a will, in the time of death the surviving partner has no claim to the other halves part. That goes to the family of the other half. If you have a will, and the half goes to you, un-related and un-married person pays like a 40% tax for the estimated value of the house. Up to 100 000 € a legal spouse would pay no tax and even then the tax bracket is more reasonable.
I had to come back and react again, because basically what you're saying is that its only important because it makes aspects that SHOULD already be easy, easier. Not the love aspects. Just that it saves some paperwork hassle
The legal advantages are undeniable. Unfortunate that unmarried couples cannot avail themselves of such benefits. Just the state trying to get you to churn out more victims.
Interesting you list divorce though. How is that a benefitof marriage?
Those things can be sorted with any other form of legal contract, including one that can't suddenly be modified by the government. In my country, getting legally married is absolutely a dumb idea, you become liable for each others debts to name one. If one is worried about inheritance, power of attorney etc, write a contract that specifies those things, in the manner that you want.
Lmao, it’s not just an American thing, I’d argue that western cultures are the most okay with not being married out of everyone. Being shamed for not being married is highly common in Asian and African cultures. It’s also extremely common in Eastern European cultures as well. Hell, it’s incredibly common to ask if a couple are getting married here in the UK.
You know what? Since I commented, I have been going into this rabbit hole myself, and you are right. Even in those cultures, getting married is less about love and more political or financial, etc. And I still think it is weird. I am married because it was important for my wife. For her personally. But she doesn't care if others get married too. Although she does like going to weddings. I don't mind getting and being married at all. But I do find shaming people for it weird.
The so-called legal benefits are really not that great to be honest, and most of them don’t actually require you to be married. There’s actually far more risk involved for both sides.
Ten years on Saturday. Neither one of us have any interest in getting married. Hell we don't even live together. We like things how they are, each of us with our own space and lives. We love each other, we're a perfect match, but this is how we'd rather persue our relationship. You need to realize that it's not something that everyone has to find important or mandatory, and that every relationship is different.
Mariage is a legal thing. You dont have kids so it's easier but if (hopefully not) one of you gets very sick and on life support, the opinion of the partner won't be taken into account. And the difficult decisions might be taken without you or them. And there are other situations like this. It's not about love, it's about legalities.
Depends on the country of course. In France for example, it was a big deal that gay people could get married because otherwise they were left out of medical decisions or inheritance even after living 50 years together.
This is very important! My mom and her bf were together for over 10 years and never married. He had a catastrophic reaction to new meds and died in my mom's arms. Because they weren't married, all burial rights went to his ex-wife. My mom was completely excluded from anything to do with the love of her life passing.
He had been ill and was in the process of finalizing a will, but passed before it was done. If you're unmarried but in a long-term relationship, make sure to consult a lawyer.
....uhhh, so I understand what rational someone might have used to exclude your Mom from that. But why the fuck would any decisions land in the ex-wife's lap?
aristera
"Do I know you?" Eh, stranger things have happened.
"Why don't you come up on stage..." Yeah, I see where this is going.
ILoveSpicyPeople
She couldn’t even pretend she was surprised?!
XRay0976
I thought he was gonna come out as gay and that's why he hadn't proposed
Whoisthisdoctorwho2000
Fucking onions man
peterbozeman
I love love.
Averag3cabbag3
Perfect use of the 3 minute video length now! I don't think I would have watched all this if it was split into 10 separate clips.
ILoveSpicyPeople
The guy reached out to Akash and asked if he could propose this way. That part was planned.
DarkwingDuc
meatsmokertx
The comedian supports trump
Everyonesfavorite
Ewww brother, ewwww (gross)
lrgking33
Fuckin awesome
jekath
Man, my wife would have murdered me if I had proposed to like that. For starters.
Oh, and we had been together for 9 years before I proposed.
SmileByJonnyB
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1M21nZGRkdnhub2I3c2w0cGR6YjhpdWg5anloMWtvYzNhc3QweXIxNiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Cw2Ap2EJEssmY/200w.webp
jekath
More like....
NikkiManajOfficial
I thought for sure he was going to say, "because she's my sister"
keyblader1985
That's a fantastic twist
OnlyByMoonlight
Well that's fucking wholesome
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herpb4uderp
Or just being familiar with common pop media??? Lol its staged so its a story - a somewhat tropey one. I dont think having a little intuition to understand the likely outcome to a staged event is a trauma response.
DarkwingDuc
Dude. We ALL knew from the start b/c of OP's title. You're not a special and unique snowflake.
dixxienormus
I expected him to explain she was his sister.
DaddyDune
How funny would it have been if she said “fuck you!” 😊
Omicron416
Totally a setup, but it seems to me Melissa wasn't in on it.
DarkwingDuc
Breizhspider
Never propose in front of a crowd. It put too much social pressure on your partner and remove their possibility to say "no".
worm61
If only this beautiful moment hadn’t been spoiled by the comedian using a slur.
MaleekTheFreak
Or by the comedian being a MAGA dude
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
I guess loving someone and being with them for 9 years isn't enough?
herpb4uderp
For some, maybe not. Different people have different ways they would like love and affecftion to be expressed.
DarkwingDuc
For some, it's not. It's almost like it's a personal decision or something? Crazy idea, right?
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
It sounds crazy to me, at that point there's nothing to prove to anyone or even yourselves, but ok I guess.
DarkwingDuc
That's fine. That's your opinion, and your life. Others have different opinions. It's not an new concept. Also, who says marriage is about proving anything to anyone else? You're making assumptions to deride someone else's decision about what they want to do with their own life. Just live your life, and let others live theirs.
pariah76
If it didn't lead to that, I would have been sooooo disappointed
gesel
I would have preferred a coherent defense of rejecting religious conformity and that their partnership was clearly stronger than those who felt they needed cultural chains to bind them into an agreement they otherwise wouldn't want to continue.
TaxiGhoul
Was expecting "I'm gay"
Justanotherbloodyacctname
I'm glad it was staged because as someone with an ideological position on why I'd not get married (fuck the church or the State or any other fucker telling me how to love) some dude trying to "shame" me in front of a crowd about it would get both barrels.
HellaPictureSeeing
That's cool to hate marriage but if you have someone you love don't forget you can fleece the government for more money by doing so. Fuck the gov, I'm not for any part of what or how to love based on tradition but I am married. Because taxes. Also we had a kid so might as well get more money from them. That one doesn't balance out as well. Be against kids if doing things for monetary purposes lol.
Justanotherbloodyacctname
Meh, if other people want to go for it I'm not judging them, but my position is my position and if people don't like it they're free to place that complaint directly in the nearest available bin.
princessjassy
Was waiting for him to say he hasn't cause its his sister haha much better ending
shutupthisisreal
and then still proposing?
xj4low
Melissa has some great legs on her. She must work out.
Everyonesfavorite
For 9 years now
rcbean
Am I the only one who thinks the r-word is being thrown around more often now? We fought it off for a while and now people are just okay with it? Can’t we just retire it?
Kiotetravels
Yeah I'm really starting to hear it more and more. It's this anti woke nonsense. Apparently being a decent human being is woke and asking people to not use slurs is censorship.
FishieStardust
Lovers will say it's staged but aww that's so sweet and creative and good for them
JasonThorn
I don't care if it's staged. The man set that up and worked with the comedian, that's a power move.
FishieStardust
Horny will say damn she's hot
Goldmarble
And none will be wrong.
FishieStardust
And none will be wrong.
LapsisBeeftech
Literally on a stage too
DaddyChillWhatTheHellIsEvenThat
Aren't these the guys who promoted trump at the most critical time possible?
worm61
Not surprised, given how casually he used that slur.
DarkwingDuc
Who? The couple? The comedian? The audience? What guys?
DaddyChillWhatTheHellIsEvenThat
The comedian
laotzume
It is. Fuck this bootlicker.
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Guess what. Yes.
Harm
Was there a... good time for it?
DaddyChillWhatTheHellIsEvenThat
If they wanted to do it they could have done it at the beginning of 2024 instead of 2 days before the election
YippeeKayakOB
#1 Haha, sure, but fuck that. I consider marriage straight/Christian culture conformity. I have been with my partner for many years and we both don't want to get married. That doesn't make any of us assholes, it just makes it clear that we are doing what works for us. If it works for you, fine, but if it works for these guys not to be married, I 100% understand that.
JustTodd
Except depending where you live, technically you're already married. It's called common law marriage. And if things ever go south, they can legally go after you in divorce proceedings.
YippeeKayakOB
Nope, not the case where I live
ChristopherHallett
Lmao, met my wife in high school. I was year 10, she was year 11. Took her to the ball when she was in year 12 and started properly dating after that. That was in 1999. We got married in September 2023. Herr Auntie used to ask us all the time "When are you getting married?" - after a while I just started replying "Every time someone asks us that, it pushes the date back another year." The real reason is we felt that other things were more important, like getting a house.
Quessir
Herr Auntie is something I'm hoping you actually call her, and it's not just a typo.
ChristopherHallett
Ha ha no, that was just a typo. Her Auntie did since retire from being an elementary school teacher and became a "writer", which I have since discovered is just an author that barely does any writing - not even updating their blog - and definitely doesn't get anything published.
marsilies
It sounds like you're conflating getting married and having a wedding. Getting married, i.e. applying and getting a marriage license, doesn't actually cost that much, and there's advantages like saving money on taxes, etc. If you wanted to wait until you had a wedding you could've just, you know, not told anyone you were married until you had the wedding.
ChristopherHallett
What's the point of getting married without having our family and closest friends there, and a big celebratory party after? We could also have just scribbled on a piece of paper "we're married now" and saved the money on the certificate.
No, we wanted to get married, not sign a government contract in an office building.
marsilies
The point of getting married privately while holding off the public wedding until later is to make your commitment known to the person it maters most to: your partner, now your spouse. And then you reap the legal and financial benefits until the wedding. You were saving up for a house, wouldn't saving on your taxes for years have helped?
ChristopherHallett
You're really invested in this, huh? My wife already knew I was committed. As for legal and financial benefits, after 6 months living together here in Australia you're already defacto, which gives you most of what the piece of paper does. As for taxes, neither of us has ever claimed the other as a dependent, not do we have any kids (don't want them). We did what we wanted when we wanted because we wanted to do it. You might not like it but pal, that's for YOU to talk through with your therapist.
marsilies
OK, maybe Australian tax law is different, but in the US, being married filing jointly has benefits over each person filing separately, in most cases, typically in a larger tax credit. US Tax filing software will usually compare the different filing methods to see which gets you the biggest refund. But there's also benefits like spousal health rights and advocacy, power of attorney, inheritance, etc. . When my wife died, I got her work retirement account transferred me without penalty.
imNotThisCleverIRL
Finally! A totally staged video I can upvote.
daychilde
This comment is faaaaaake ;-)
HandoB4Javert
*Double staged.
WeaponizedJerk
Same. At least it wasn't staged for her, I bet.
ScienceIsntAboutWhyItsAboutWhyNot
It was indeed on a stage.
BatsArentBugs
I usually hate this type of shit. This one? Solid fucking gold.
ojisama
I would argue that the video is not staged if the proposee did not know, even if and when the proposer planned this with the comedian.
HerrHat
Yup.
Almost every proposal is staged.
This was cool and i believe the dude set this up. Most likely with the comedian.
Allusernamesaretakensoichoosethis
Well it was on a stage... so technically...
AndroidSoul
If the dude who got roasted three years ago saw the comedian was gonna be performing nearby, called him up and set it up ahead of time, that would be a fantastic play
StellarJay77
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he did. The comedian is totally in on it. He delivered it well though making it seem off the cuff.
pareidoliaperson
The line "it took me 9 years to become the man you deserved" still slammed.
startedfromlurkingnowimhere
That was a clean line 👏
Tchernobog
That's essentially what happened, the video in the link explains it.
GeekBoyChrisOnlySometimes
I mean, the comedian went from 'Wait, do I know you?' to immediately dropping their names as he called them on stage. Yeah it's staged and I fucking love it. Good for them.
MCNewYorkLives
But he asks what their names are first as they come up
GeekBoyChrisOnlySometimes
Oh, I missed that, mb
DMSledge
He did ask their names when they came up.
keyblader1985
I assumed that was the implication.
AndroidSoul
I figured 'totally staged' meant 'didn't really happen' instead of just the setup being premeditated
Dimension09
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
But, but she could say 'no', right? I mean, you'd accept that answer, right?
floatationman
But she wouldn't...
Mycologics
I get the jokes and all. But getting married is really not that important.
ThongsAreFootwear
Ok, that's it everybody. You can all go home. The fun's now over. u/Mycologics has set us all straight. Steve, Brian, you can put the balloons away. I said the fun is over!
partimevillain
To each his own. In this case it seems pretty important for the couple
valkrez
Committing yourself entirely, legally, and in front of your most important people is very important. I wouldn't do that with just anyone.
Mycologics
So basically, what everyone tells me in the reactions is that marriage in terms of love is not important, but it is functional within a system that doesn't work for many people and getting married is almost an obligation to arrange stuff.
Now I understand all your points, but what you're really saying is that the system is broken and might as well get some cake and a party for it
VaultGirl69
I mean... Taxes. Also, I'm in Oklahoma and my buddy couldn't move in with his girlfriend of two years because his grandmother said she would cut him off financially if he did (for those of you in sane countries, we were all in college and the grandmother was paying for it). Either mane college affordable or pay people a good living). Now they are finally married with kids and will probably split up. He was in his 20s back teen. She is out of his league in every way.
arikelrecords2000
In the US, there are over 200 legal benefits for being married vs being single. If marriage isn't right for you that's fine, but it is factually an important legal distinction.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
In the USA it is: decisions involving children, medical decisions, inheritance, and rights all involve that piece of paper. It's why gays fought so hard to get married: if your long-term girlfriend of 15 years is in the hospital on life support, you have no say in her care, but her estranged relatives do.
Mycologics
Again I understand all these reasons. But it's insane that a marriage is necessary. This comedian is shaming him because "you gotta out the girl on lock"
What you say is, its necessary because the system is broken.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Yes, and until the system is fixed, you still have to have a life.
DinkyDoinky
Seems to be the top reason to live for most people, i never got that. Dont you know your partner loves you without it. I married my wife purely because we were emigrating and that made things simpler. By then we were together for 15y.
marsilies
Aside from the legal advantages, I proposed because I wanted to make sure she knew I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. It's another level of commitment, both public and private.
Everyonesfavorite
I want a ring, proposal, conversation brought up by him, we can put off marriage, but it's been 3 years and I want to know he has made the commitment aside from affirming it when I ask him.
FoxAffair
As someone who had multiple long-term relationships growing up, my perspective of "marriage isn't necessary/ for me" flipped the moment I met my current wife and was mature enough to truly and mutually love someone. So if you feel this way, maybe you just haven't met the right person at the right time in your life yet.
completelyordinary
As someone who is married to the right person... The actual marriage isn't important to me. Yeah, I like getting to call him "my husband", but our love is the same. I made the commitment, I knew I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. The piece of paper didn't change anything. Saying "you haven't met the right person at the right time" sounds like you're diminishing the love other people share with their non-married partners.
FoxAffair
Our gay brethren wouldn't be continuously fighting for their right to get just a "piece of paper," and if that's all it is to you, then why did you even bother getting married? Sounds like you're diminishing the marriage people share with their love partners, and suggesting that it somehow changes or improves the quality of your relationship versus non-married couples, or is just about titles, is missing the importance of it entirely if you ask me.
completelyordinary
I fully understand that for many people it is very important. For me, it was mostly out of practicality, and the fact that my partner is one of those people that finds it important. I think any consenting adults should be able to get married if they want it, and it's outrageous if they can't. I just wanted to say some people not desiring marriage in their lifelong relationship is okay. Just like it's okay that marriage is a must-have in someone else's relationship. Neither is "better". 1/2
completelyordinary
2/2 yes, I am probably missing the importance you ascribe to it. But we are different people with different views. My autistic ass also often has trouble truly understanding others, but I do try to stay openminded and live a life where we don't decide that (non harmful) life choices/preferences make one person/relationship better than the other. Out of a genuine wish to understand: would you be willing to message me what the importance of marriage is to you?
CrabbyBlueberry
Being in a life long committed relationship is not important. But if you're in one, getting married absolutely is important. The legal benefits are too numerous to list. Inheritance, power of attorney, and even divorce are important.
ArchonIlladrya
Because I file head of household, my wife and I would actually lose about $3k off our tax returns. I call her my wife, but we're not legally married.
HerrHat
yup. In Finland, If you have, say a house or a flat together, worth like 200 000 €. Without being married and not having a will, in the time of death the surviving partner has no claim to the other halves part. That goes to the family of the other half.
If you have a will, and the half goes to you, un-related and un-married person pays like a 40% tax for the estimated value of the house. Up to 100 000 € a legal spouse would pay no tax and even then the tax bracket is more reasonable.
Mycologics
I had to come back and react again, because basically what you're saying is that its only important because it makes aspects that SHOULD already be easy, easier. Not the love aspects. Just that it saves some paperwork hassle
Turkleturts
You can do all of that without getting married. Well, at least you can in 1st world countries.
hyperchondriac
The legal advantages are undeniable. Unfortunate that unmarried couples cannot avail themselves of such benefits. Just the state trying to get you to churn out more victims.
Interesting you list divorce though. How is that a benefitof marriage?
Curiousbystanderlurkingsince09
Yea, to some us it is very meaningful
LoquaciousDude
Those things can be sorted with any other form of legal contract, including one that can't suddenly be modified by the government. In my country, getting legally married is absolutely a dumb idea, you become liable for each others debts to name one. If one is worried about inheritance, power of attorney etc, write a contract that specifies those things, in the manner that you want.
Mycologics
I get it i am married myself. But being shamed for not getting married (even in jokes) is weird. It's very American i guess
qwertdeep
Lmao, it’s not just an American thing, I’d argue that western cultures are the most okay with not being married out of everyone. Being shamed for not being married is highly common in Asian and African cultures. It’s also extremely common in Eastern European cultures as well. Hell, it’s incredibly common to ask if a couple are getting married here in the UK.
Mycologics
You know what? Since I commented, I have been going into this rabbit hole myself, and you are right. Even in those cultures, getting married is less about love and more political or financial, etc. And I still think it is weird. I am married because it was important for my wife. For her personally. But she doesn't care if others get married too. Although she does like going to weddings. I don't mind getting and being married at all. But I do find shaming people for it weird.
pickinganameistoomuchpressure
'It's very American. I guess' and an implied eye roll from what I'm assuming is a European
Gliocas
So you're mad he assumed they are American, then assumed they are European. You see the double standard of defaultism right?
Mycologics
Don't make assumptions on tone or meaning based on text. It is probably very American. No eye rolls
CurbYourClassWar
The so-called legal benefits are really not that great to be honest, and most of them don’t actually require you to be married. There’s actually far more risk involved for both sides.
TheMrDomino
Ten years on Saturday. Neither one of us have any interest in getting married. Hell we don't even live together. We like things how they are, each of us with our own space and lives. We love each other, we're a perfect match, but this is how we'd rather persue our relationship. You need to realize that it's not something that everyone has to find important or mandatory, and that every relationship is different.
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
Mariage is a legal thing. You dont have kids so it's easier but if (hopefully not) one of you gets very sick and on life support, the opinion of the partner won't be taken into account. And the difficult decisions might be taken without you or them. And there are other situations like this. It's not about love, it's about legalities.
IHateApostrophes
All you have to do is make your partner your healthcare proxy
Gliocas
If you kive together for extended period of time, then it is common-law. Essentially the same as being married.
duhleted
Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Texas, and the District of Columbia. No where else has this backwards law.
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
Depends on the country of course. In France for example, it was a big deal that gay people could get married because otherwise they were left out of medical decisions or inheritance even after living 50 years together.
BigKittyGothGF
This is very important! My mom and her bf were together for over 10 years and never married. He had a catastrophic reaction to new meds and died in my mom's arms. Because they weren't married, all burial rights went to his ex-wife. My mom was completely excluded from anything to do with the love of her life passing.
He had been ill and was in the process of finalizing a will, but passed before it was done.
If you're unmarried but in a long-term relationship, make sure to consult a lawyer.
TypicallyVigo
....uhhh, so I understand what rational someone might have used to exclude your Mom from that. But why the fuck would any decisions land in the ex-wife's lap?