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They really are all bastards, aren't they?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/linda-becerra-moran-trans-woman-shot-police_n_67d1e5a5e4b0668b4e9d4e2a
Absolutely no attempt was made to calm her down or make her feel safe. Indeed, it sounds like their attitudes just made a bad problem worse, leading to what came next.
And, there it is... The only tool they care about using is the gun. The situation should've never have even escalated to that point, and it sounds like she was at greater risk of harming herself than anyone else.
Yeah, no shit. Of course people aren't going to call the police for help. Not if they just roll up and shoot you instead of helping.
MoopsyLD
damn what a name "soma snakoil" .sounds like a family of natural salespeople.
michiyl
"I felt threatened by the person who held a knife to its own throat, so I deescalated the situation by killing all non-police officers in the room."
feren
"They are threatening harm to others!" Outcome: shoot them. "They are threatening harm to police!" Outcome: shoot them. ""They are threatening harm to themselves!" Outcome: shoot them. "They aren't threatening anything!" Outcome: shoot them. -- police training manual
ontarioOT
If your only tool is a hammer...
Grimmy32
Watching the footage. She was very unstable. Based entirely on the actions that led up to the shooting. I genuinely do not blame officers for considering her a threat. Many opportunities were given so that this would not turn lethal - more than seen in previous shootings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyJCYtUfadE
charondaboatman
You’re being downvoted for telling the truth, which no one wants to hear - they want the world to be black and white, right and wrong, with no context or nuance. They want their righteous indignation to be validated no matter what. Rabid ignorance on both sides helps no one.
charondaboatman
After watching all that LAPD presented, there are several issues. One, the officer who was lead made mention of being able to keep the door between them and her so they could close it. They didn’t do that. They ignored her briefly while she retreated further into the room, which they shouldn’t have allowed. She was clearly deteriorating, and they didn’t know how to deal with it. More and more as police interact with a public that has emotional and mental health issues, the idea of >>>> 1/2
charondaboatman
2/2 a “bad guy” is less and less clear. More tools and training need to be implemented so that every situation doesn’t become a, “we had to shoot them”. She was scared, unstable, confused and emotionally distraught - there was a need for her to de escalate and become calm so that she could be taken somewhere safe to resolve her issues. LEOs rarely think that far ahead - woman with a knife screaming and coming towards me - shoot - but it was done out of fear and poor training and communication.