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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43316735 Eight members of a German Neo-Nazi group were just found guilty of five terrorist attacks. These attacks consisted of bombings, stabbings, and beatings of immigrants and non-nazi politicians. The lightest sentence goes to the youngest member of the group (20s) with 4 years, and the strongest goes to its leader at 10 years.
Brimdogge
You would think after Hitler they would understand better then to give short prison sentences to nazis.
UpVoteDragons
GET THESE DAMN NAZIS OFF OF MY MOTHER FUCKING PLANET!
lykanlupus
10 years is not that much, they should have made an example out of this as a warning to other groups and give them 40 years.
aoenofhorus
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say these nazis deserve it.
PUNKem733
I don't think 4 years is justice if you're involved in the shit they were.
TrueNorthernLights
Ever notice how once they're caught, they hide their faces? Where's their bold, hateful rhetoric now?
Asteroidrules
Hatred is the mask of insecurity.
Derginsdrogalot
No need to be left, right or centre. Just don't be a cunt.
nineteen85
I don't understand why they hide. they were obviously proud enough of their "cause" to do it in the first place. such cowards
Chivaxsienpre209
This is what the far right brings...
CaptCounterCulture
And the far left brings communism and totalitarianism. Both ends of the spectrum are shit.
itsACoppa
The difference between left and right extremism, is whether you want an oligarchy, or totalitarian dictator.
ThatOneGuyFrom6thGrade
German Nazis? Here we go again...
mpaulson111
Glad they are off the streets
Immovable0bject
I know people who got 10 years for stealing 100$ wtf is this
Jeffrey24388
In Belgium after the 10th time you were told not to do it again, you might get some jail-time. (If no violence was used that is)
Asteroidrules
Germany doesn't have for profit prisons.
Bluegrasslass
Cunts.
Izzyinner
"And i want my scalps"
Izzyinner
I couldnt find an inglorious bastards meme with brad pitt...lol
BubbleBaath
Now these are some actual neo nazis that people could fight, rather than the ones they claim are nazis because they disagree with them
peterzappfe
No. I don't need to wait for the trains to get filled to know that "oh these are the real Nazis". The second they have any power, they will
peterzappfe
do what they call for, it has happened. Learn some history, Nazis aren't stupid enough to call gas chambers when they don't have the power,
peterzappfe
remember the biggest killings has happened in the end of the war.
CallMeVoodoo
How are they neo if they were neo 30 years ago?
CallMeVoodoo
Fresh-nazis I say.
dynamiteking
Hm, finally something real and different
DieHardIsAChristmasMovie
Only 10? Did nazi that coming
PotatoCorp
Their justice system is based on rehabilitation (and in cases like this, de-radicalisation), and it works
monjoe
In Germany the term "Lifelong Sentence" would just be 15 Years. Given the person is not seriously mentally ill and a danger to others.
Yahellno
Rasdwatrium
Mind you, it was only attempted murder. They failed to actually kill anyone.
Bombpier
If you try to kill someone you dont deserve to exist anymore
Rasdwatrium
I disagree strongly.
DeniseReade
Never understood why people who are so proud of themselves hide their faces when media is there. Show the world what you look like.
DeniseReade
We want to know. For, uh ... nice reasons
Shilv
In German you arent allowed to speak out anything bad about refugees and no go zones keep growing in size. So wonder why this happens.
Asteroidrules
It's pretty hard for something that doesn't exist to grow in size. Multiply anything by 0 and it's still 0.
Shilv
Why merkel herself said this two weeks ago then?
Nikolai5
No go zones lol. You mean like Birmingham in the UK? There's a fair few shit holes in every country but there aren't any "no go zones".
Shilv
Merkel herself admited this less than two weeks ago lol
deinfavorit
Oh yes you can. You just cannot spread Hate Speech and call for violence. But I get it, that's really hard to understand
Shilv
Expect everything negative will consifmdered as hate speech.
deinfavorit
Except that's utter bullshit.
HerrFraeulein
This is whiny victim bullshit. You can, and many do criticise refugees without any repercussions from the government. We have free speech
deinfavorit
Thank you
CaptCounterCulture
"We have free speech" https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/world/europe/germany-36-accused-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html
CaptCounterCulture
America is the only country with freedom of speech, where you don't get arrested for critizing a religions ideas.
HerrFraeulein
Inciting violence is not and should not be covered by free speech, because this infringes of the freedom of those targeted. Not that hard.
CaptCounterCulture
Inciting violence is not protected by freedom of speech. People in Europe and Canada are arrested for critizing Islam under hate speech laws
Skawomplious
Good thing ya'll banned guns so that this wouldn't happen.
Asteroidrules
Well none of them used guns, and they completely failed to kill anyone, so yeah.
Skawomplious
So yeah, what? Banning guns made your murderers incompetent?
ninetenduh
I just leave this here. https://www.refcrime.info/atom/Crime/Map#
Camelspotting
I don't speak German but I'm sure that's completely unbiased.
Tacocatisapalindrom
Non-nazi politicians? So, pretty much all politicians?
RackhamTheRed
yes. idk why you get downvoted like this... ppl should be carefull when crying "FIRE"
Asteroidrules
The group specifically targeted politicians they disagreed with, given that they're nazis, that means they disagreed with non nazis.
RackhamTheRed
... which are "pretty much all politicians"
Asteroidrules
Well, most politicians, there's still AFD AFP FPO BNP Jobbik, etc.
nestario
Die meisten kannte ich gar nicht, sind kleine Regionalparteien oder?
Froglip
Muss. Aber Drama kommt ja immer gut.
RackhamTheRed
oh, und in Ungarn haben sie >20% und in Ö ist the FPÖ in der regierung
RackhamTheRed
die meisten sind nicht in deutschland (BNP in UK, FPÖ in Öst., Jobbik in Ungarn...)
nestario
Achso, der Kommentar klang als wären das Deutsche Parteien
RackhamTheRed
die schlumpfpartien sind zwar weit rechts allesamt, aber nazis? ich finde man sollte vorsichtig sein mit "FEUER! FEUER!" schreien
LordFacepan
Only ten? But being a Nazi in and of itself is a crime. How are their sentences that tiny?
WillTheFifth
German prison system is more focused on rehabilitation, less on punishment
LordFacepan
Fair point. But surely the cumulative sentences would build up.
Rifneno
Rehab is great for poor people stealing shit to survive. For genocidal fascists, not so much. Lock them up and melt down the key.
OneFinalEffortIsAllThatRemains
What about people who commit crimes in the name of their backward religion. Yet are still somehow seen as oppressed?
MouseDenton
Indeed there has been an increase in crime since the refugee crisis. Most drastically, hate crimes against refugees.
Seoulsurvivor5772101
Bullshit... You know that isn't true. I can't stand it when people lie while virtue signalling.
shitduke
actually, most drastically in rapes. but y'know...
CandyVanMan
Wonder why. Might be linked to the explosive rise in rape and violence with Muslim immigration.
Magicmat
Of course it is but there is a mass denial of the direct correlation. Political correctness is dangerous insanity
Skush123
Well the most crimes against refugees are other refugees.
mmsep123
I know there is racism and "hate crime" and all that, but it's also a fact that rapes and sexual assaults have gone up drastically
mmsep123
Every fifth rape in Finalnd has been commited by a foreigner: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9251395 Yle news. most trusted news site in Finland
LP1988
Depending on the country, many places it has increased from like five times a year to ten, statistically significant, numerically low.
mmsep123
I'm very sorry but people are disillusioned. I can find dozens of finnish news sites with statistics that foreigners are over represented1/2
mmsep123
in rape statistics. I'm would it to not be true, but it is. Not even the most leftist politic can deny that, they don't.
mmsep123
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201801241061028328-finland-foreigners-sex-crimes/ statistics like this do exist.
Svartlebee
Also terror attacks. Big upsurge in those.
shreddedking
well they caught them neo nazis so that'll reduce terrorism to some extent
halfwindsor
9/11 had a pretty big effect on terror attacks in Europe. They went down after the good burghers of Boston & NY stopped funding the IRA
Asteroidrules
The vast majority of terrorist attacks are domestic.
Svartlebee
In the US. Not in Europe.
Asteroidrules
Nope, same trend follows in the UK and Germany.
Svartlebee
Not in the UK. And it remains to be seen in Germany, especially with all the trucks ploughing into crowds.
Asteroidrules
Don't say that too loud, you'll upset the fedoras.
TresusIbor
Who's the "fedoras"?
MemeMyselfnI
Anyone who notices *all* the data, not just what supports their bigotry.
Rasdwatrium
/pol/ and r/thedonald
IAmAngry
what about hate crimes by refugees toward Jews? women? terror attack? if you share statistics share all of them not just the once you like
BillyRex
The problem is that sexual harrassment is categorized as sexual assault in German statistics. That happened in the same year the refugee...
BillyRex
crisis "hit" us. I live near a living quarter for refugees, and they are just normal people, no heightened crime rate here.
AsUpSoBelow
What makes you think they 'like'' that statistic?
IAmAngry
because that's the only statistic they speak about.. Share the full picture and let people judge
AsUpSoBelow
Uhh pretty presumptuous to make such a judgement from a single comment the size of half a tweet imo
ValdesMonster
Well rape rates are Way lower here than before the last immigration wave. Women primarily Get killed by people born here not immigrants.
Fuckoffgoogle
Right extremists claim that to in sweden. But it was proven to be linked to new laws and less stigma
Fuckoffgoogle
The total number of convictions are still The same. And correlation data is to adnvanced for Them
Fuckoffgoogle
In scb.se (swe stat database) we see that icecream consumptionis up 15% same timeperiod as sexual assults. Nazis logic......
TravisTee34
Following a spree of arsons against immigrants shelters, we noted that the anti-immigrants warnings had been true...
TravisTee34
They warned us violence would increase with the increase of immigrants. They just didn’t warn us that they would be the ones spreading it.
IAmAngry
Yes the truck killing spree, Charlie hebdo, airport bombs, bataklan club.. all results of "we didn't welcome the refugees hard enough"
Camelspotting
France declared war on them and they attacked back, what a surprise.
Voidkom
Charlie were the most refugee loving fucks you could find.
PotatoCorp
Plot twist: they were all born in France, then radicalized
Voidkom
Yeah, they are SONS of refugees. Nothing to do with refugees, hehehe!
Asteroidrules
Similarly: of every terrorist attack on the UK in the past 10 years, only 2 have been from foreigners, one Somali, and a Ukrainian Nazi.