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shadowwriter
I'm from the west coast no way would I touch anyone's stroller to help without asking. Them jerks get mad for helping lest you ask. Permission is key.
sirdouglasbuttersworth
That's funny because on the east coast of Canada they're both nice AND kind. Just in some places you won't understand a single word they're saying even when they're allegedly speaking English
oldguyexlurker
Had "Minnesota nice" explained to me by a co-worker before I went there the 1st time. Could definitely detect it when I was looking for it, but... you see what you expect to see.
Madringo
As a Canadian, I remember going to New York for the first time and thinking, why the hell are they so angry, but still nice. So this resonates with me
kimiDriver
I have lived on both coasts and in my experience this is true…but I have had kind westerners too…not just nice. But east coast yeah…just keep moving no one has time for pleasantries.
sammyismycat
wEst sIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIde!!!!
taez555
That's Wicked Dope.
unluckyandbored
Meanwhile in CA, if you blow a tire on the freeway, someone will stop, see your situation, say "Man, that really sucks. I hope it works out!" and then leave without helping.
ThailandExpress
Kugartun
People in the Midwest; "wtf is a coast?"
tinyfootprints
New Yorkers tend to be hard and crunchy on the outside but soft and gentle on the inside.
dripstone
I've lived on both coasts and this is the best explanation I've heard.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
Haven't been to the East Coast, but I've worked in and visited the West Coast quite a bit and I always found them much friendlier and more kind than (brace yourselves...) folks in the northern middle section of the country and Texas. Like... by far.
jethroismaxbaer5772
Always talking about East coast and West coast, nobody talks about Gulf coast.
mafiacarstarter
Why would anyone talk about the gulf coast?
Mercenarity
that's where we get our suburban alligator videos from.
Pdizzle124
I did the stroller thing last Friday in queens but I did speak, "need help? " she nodded, I nodded.
Drishna
When I moved from Connecticut to Seattle, a hiring manager asked me what I thought of "the Seattle freeze". I asked her what it was, and she told me people here are much colder towards each other than in other parts of the country. I responded that I had been randomly talked to several times in public areas like grocery stores and elevators, and that doesn't happen from where I was from unless the person was trying to con me or it was a lil old lady asking me to reach something for them.
ThisNameUnavailable
I was in New York for a bit. I saw an old lady at the bottom of the stairs in the subway with some heavy bags. I walked up to her and politely asked her if she would like help carrying the bags up the stairs. She looked at me like I was about to rob her 😂 Maybe I was being too nice for New York haha.
LuminoZero
My favorite example on this was seeing a guy on the NYC Subway saying "Hey, dumbass, your bags unzipped. Fix yourself before somebody takes your shit."
MinimumContributor
Also, A LOT more sarcasm on the East Coast. Poorly done it definitely off bitchy to people not from there
Kehy
I mean same with west coast. We ARE sarcastic fuckers, but it's a more chill vibe.
snailbait
Seems a bit too broad. Northern CA is very different from southern CA. Same could be said for east and west Oregon.
khaoselement
I don't know, my time in California was largely the same as what is described here. Just no snow to shovel.
literallymike
Nice can be faked.
Type17
Sounds like it is faked a lot on the west coast
literallymike
Maverickaura
East coast=New York and maybe a few adjacent states. West coast = California specifically. Just to translate for everyone whos been to the east coast south of the Carolinas going "this doesn't make any sense"
zombiejedediah
That probably does cover 80% of everyone on those coasts, tho.
Maverickaura
Pretty much. Nothing valuable outside of those areas.
Maverickaura
Handful of dvs don't realize i know this because I have lived in rural America all my life and never once in the city. I'll say it again, there is nothing valuable out here. Not your education, not your skillets,, not your tourism traps, not your "culture" if you can call it that.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
That's because "Southern" overrides "East Coast" pretty completly at that point.
RobynMeeps
Ngl, this sounds like narcissists trying to play off how dickish they are but "deep down their actually such a nice person" kinda vibe.
Columbus43219
It's not. NYC has a collective mindset.
Affray
Yeah, I'm apparently batting a thousand over here just be being pleasant to be around and also good intended.
Bladedrummer
The east coast is the fucking worst... my family is from there. I'm on the west coast and people are jury plain nicer here all around, period.
cantbelievethisisstillavailable
That also applies to the North and South, in the same order.
jamieColorBandit
Totally!
kimiDriver
Also very true. I’m from Alabama and have lived in GA,TX,NYC,LA and Beijing China as an adult…I’m a Masshole currently. And you’re exactly right.
greyghost714
Yeah, the confederate states are still lost and a pimple on the US that needs to be popped
Sypurist
Bless your heart.
kimiDriver
Nice
Stumpkiller
Biggest jerks I have run across in my travels were in Texas and Georgia.
eathotdog
People in the yooper midwest are assholes too its just harder to be a dick when its -10f outside
idrinkcheapbeer
Southerners will talk shit about you behind your back. northerners will talk shit to your face,
Affray
Even more North in Canada we tend to just thinly veil our sarcasm and hope you pick up that we think you're being a shithead.
Soufange
Debatable, and depends entirely on which part of the North. My state has people Cheering for ICE's arrival. And the "I'm not racist, BUUUUUT-" is off the charts. People here will be so damn nice to your face then be absolute dogshit in every other aspect. Googled my dad's family to consider reopening contact and the first thing I saw was Uncle's 2nd wife picking a VERY public fight on social media because her daughter was accused of bullying a child.
Soufange
That being said, I also remember as a teen my sister's car running out of gas in the middle of an intersection and 5 dudes from 4 cars immediately halted traffic and helped me push ourselves into a parking lot, then made sure we were good while her boyfriend went to get us a gas cannister. It's always the ratty truck dudes who jump up to help first.🫡
Affray
Dudes who drive rusted out POS pickups do always seem to be quick to help. Even if it's just an excuse to use their winch or have a story.
kimiDriver
Classy…just like mine! Bama born here now in MA
salunatics
Having lived on both coasts my description is much longer but boils down to the same point. Here's my (rhetorical) question. If over half of Seattle is from somewhere else originally, why does the "Seattle Freeze" (polite but not socially friendly) still exist? Why do we fall into it?
iRecommendBooks
I moved to Seattle, and I genuinely believe that "the Seattle freeze" started off real (private people in Ballard) and now describes one of three things: It's a mirror (people who talk about the Seattle Freeze aren't in the making friends stage), it's a broader trend (people everywhere are having a hard time making friends because of 24/7 access to media), or it's confirmation bias (you meet an introvert and say 'Look, the Seattle Freeze!')
It's not that different here than other places imo
HamSlamwich
I was born in Seattle but moved away when in was 2. My mom still lives there, and I go there at least once a year for football or some other reason. Pretty sure I'm the opposite of your statistic.
iRecommendBooks
I don't think you're part of the statistic at all :D
HamSlamwich
Everyone is part of every statistic my dude.
iRecommendBooks
That's strictly false.
Gunslinger2071
I think this is just an excuse for east coasters to be rude. West coast folks are both kind and nice, generally. Source: I lived in Seattle for 40 years. I live in Florida now. When I visit Seattle, I'm always taken aback by the kindness and generosity of strangers there.
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
Taken aback despite having lived there for 40 years? Does Florida really suck the happiness out of you like that?
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IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
You lived in Seattle for 40 years and yet you were taken to Florida as a child?
How ya doin there, Elrond?
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IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
Two of us replied to you but, we do kinda have similar names for like 3 letters.
They raise a good point though
drakcor
Haven't personally been to the West Coast but that East Coast shit is very real. I am a masshole, I'll help you but fuck you for making me decide to be a decent person.
philmoregraves
Lived on the west coast, and been to the east coast a few times, its quite accurate
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Groovechild
This is the most Southie thing I've heard in a long time.
smegheadenergy
As a fellow masshole ‘gow pahk ya karr in Harvard yahrd!’
PostHartmann
Me (from Virginia) and a guy from Louisiana were going to a class in Connecticut. We went to Boston for a day and stopped to ask directions. I said to him that that guy's accent is weird. He said what do you think he thinks of ours. I just nodded. When we were leaving it began to snow. Eventually we were leading the pack. Those people didn't know who they were following. :)
Imadethisaccounttopost
I'm from Michigan, living in Mass.
Masshole is perfectly described here.
diemajorthrilldie
I live in Ireland, one of my best friends lives in Mass and we play video games every week. You lot didn't change much when you emigrated.
Side note : He made a "Your mom" joke in response to something I said less than a week after my mother's funeral and it was the greatest moment of my life. A life that includes watching my wife walk down the aisle of a 1700 year old church before being married by an old college friend and later holding and welcoming my two newborn sons into the world.
Sinisfun
I am a Yankee and I am nice , I will judge you silently and look at you askance
WoeToHice
West Coast here. Seattle Freeze is a real thing. West of the mountains, Washingtonians are nice, but they will keep you at arm's length all the time. East of the mountains, they're not quite as nice.
crabpuss
I was just commenting on the Seattle Freeze!
Geistbar
I've been in New England my entire life and my experience is that the "not kind" half of it is BS that we saw take off online and latched onto so we could feel tougher. People here are both nice and kind, just not to superficial levels.
jbrightmans
Say you had a flat tire, someone from San Diego might say, "Aww that really sucks! I'm sorry." You ask for help and they say, "Aw, I can't 😬"
crabpuss
As someone living in Seattle it's extremely true, they call it the Seattle freeze
Sqeezytzatziki
I read that all wrong 😞
Teratoid
Massholes represent!
GuileAndGlory
Holla!
Xique
One of us!
zedd
My friends and I call that “disgruntled Samaritans”
Lesgrylls
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kimiDriver
Oh gosh that’s funny!
DefinitelyaHumanNotanAlien
Ha ha you're a good person!
InitHello
I'd choose one good person over three "nice" persons any day. Most of all, I'd choose zero persons because I like being an introvert.
drakcor
It pains me every day. 😢
RexLibris
Wormtown here, can confirm
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
That's probably because one is a compliment, and the other is an insult? The complimented people "get it" and the insulted people "get mad." This seems like a reaction you'd expect regardless of the truth, or lack of truth, in the compliment/insult.
txchief11
It’s an over generalization about hundreds of millions of people.
viva93
neither are a compliment. The east coast is actively being called mean the west coast are being called uncaring. Both are insults with compliments. I don't think you would like being called mean or uncaring would you?
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Nice is a surface thing, kind is an intent thing. Kind But Not Nice is not "mean or uncaring", its a gruff but good aspect of a person's fundamental character. "Nice But Not Kind" is a polish on shit behavior. Kindness is about being a better person, Niceness is about meeting the courtesies of formality. They ain't the same.
viva93
mutually exclusive but neither example in the post is a compliment. both have negativity in the intent.and both are intentionally a wide cast net generalizing people and judging them.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Kind but not nice is a compliment, dude, because it speaks GOOD of person's character. Nice but not kind is an insult, dude, because it speaks ILL of the person's character. Niceness without Kindness is lipstick on a pig, Kindness without Niceness is the Inner Goodness shining through a rough exterior. The East Coast people that cheered the saying on know it, and so do the West Coast people getting mad at being insulted.
FeloniousMonk13
Lived in CA for a bit as a teen many years back. The vibe there was chill and cool, coming from the south i loved it, and the girls were friendly and pretty. But theres also a lot of richy yuppy white folks that are real dicks too.
Affray
Rich yuppie white bread dickheads are everywhere, I know a few where I live in very rural Ontario. Every town has a few of them I think.
pdp1
I've lived in California all my life and this is pretty spot on. I've always lived in a middle/upper-middle class area that bordered a really rich area. In my city, the majority of people are friendly and helpful, but after living in the area for 40+ years, I'm still somewhat surprised when I come across a genuinely friendly person/family from the neighboring super rich city.
CallMeCourierSix
The ratio of cool people to rich white yuppie fucks is about 10,0000:1.
I've lived my entire life on the west coast, and I've visited the east. West coasters are nice AND kind. East coasters will help, but are absolute dicks about it, and holy FUCK that gets old. If you're gonna be an asshole while helping, just don't fucking help, because all you're doing is making the other person feel shitty about it.
MerriMod
Speaking from my experiences in CA? It's because CA seems super liberal from the outside (and that view is absolutely the stereotype of everyone not from CA), but it actually has sporadic pockets of deep red Conservatives and extremely rich, totally out-of-touch dumbasses scattered throughout. So most people are really chill, but there's a random handful of jackasses mingled in every now and then that catch you off-guard.
DeloresKleinfelder
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mothmam
And now a lot of California’s worst yuppie assholes are moving to the south. It’s like the circle of life for dicks.
TrumpRapesAndEatsChildren0002
Are you suggesting that dicks migrate?
mafiacarstarter
They tend to be happiest when they just go back and forth.
mothmam
SamaelQliphoth
They generally go south for warmer climates.
mothmam
Unfortunately, a lot of of them are moving to the south because they think we’re all Maga redneck assholes they have no idea how many liberal rednecks & progressive freaks there really are in this place.
SamaelQliphoth
Yeah, they seem to have forgotten *checks notes* Teddy Roosevelt.