ExcuseMe2
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No matter where you sit on the political spectrum: silencing media outlets, gag orders on government scientists to prevent discussion on climate change, dismissing or demonizing criticism and criminalizing the right to protest are alarming affronts to your liberties and freedoms. This isn't tinfoil hat paranoia, these are real executive orders or legislative decisions...
I have every right to be rationally concerned with these events as a citizen of this country.
FriscoeHotsauce
If you're blocking a highway and preventing emergency vehicles, it's not a peaceful protest anymore. You are literally costing lives.
yournemesis
http://www.snopes.com/lawmakers-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
Vaniel
There are laws against protests that block intersections, prevent the freedom of movement, etc. This headline is absolute hyperbole
SwordsToTheSkyWeRideAtDawn
The police in Norway did this in the '80's.
donkypuncharello
After reading the article: "The proposals, which strengthen or supplement existing laws addressing the blocking or obstructing of traffic"
donkypuncharello
Yeah, don't block the highway please. Common sense. And saying "allow motorists to run over and kill any protester obstructing a highway"
donkypuncharello
A sensational way of saying "not prosecuting motorists for the accidental deaths of protestors illegally protesting in the street"
GORDO8675309
the rioters caused the problem they were allegedly rioting about. less freedom
Mewmus
this post is so full of shit and one sided story telling - 1
ExcuseMe2
Sure it is.
FearTheSquirrels
http://www.snopes.com/lawmakers-criminalize-peaceful-protest/ Seems most of these were done before trump and target pretty specific things.
ExcuseMe2
Not all of them were done before Trump.
FearTheSquirrels
That is what the phrase 'most' applies to.
ExcuseMe2
But the problem is now there is incentive on a federal level to push these out with little to no opposition.
FearTheSquirrels
I disagree that there is a large federal incentive. But I can understand your concern. I do think the article title is a little panicky.
ExcuseMe2
GOP runs every level of government now and they have a President who is anti-potest and anti media that badmouths him.
ExcuseMe2
Of course they will use this as an excuse push these bills.
elShiz
Your fear mongering is unreal. Just. Stop.
OliverTBs
There is no snipe here, lol it's exactly what the post article saying. Bills are being presented. If you gona wait till these bills to 1/2
OliverTBs
Be passed then warning the people, it'll be f**king late!! These bills is taking America out of America.
FearTheSquirrels
The 'any means necessary' one is questionable. But the others are pretty specific. Don't tamper with private property and ...
FearTheSquirrels
Pedestrians shouldn't be on highways. Both of which existed before hand.
SomewhatOxygenated
Fact check: http://www.snopes.com/lawmakers-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
Darthmittens
I fucking hate it when people post without reading the god damn article first lol
somewealthyamerican
So not banning protests like OP said, just proposing harsher penalties for something thats already criminal?
ExcuseMe2
The point is that this new administration is absolutely going to help push a lot of these.
SomewhatOxygenated
Fair enough
missing7
So, they're just bills to impose harsher penalties for blocking roadways, which is already illegal. I don't see the problem.
ExcuseMe2
Nobody here has said that they are laws yet. But the GOP runs virtually every level of government and there is a good chance of passing them
MathiasTolerain
Not sire why the down votes either. Your fears are warranted. Nutballs and idiots control the government right now.
chrisybear
Not sure why you are being downvoted so hard. You never said that they are laws yet, just proposed bills???
zam526
Even scarier is the fact that one of those states would make it legal to hit protestors with your car as long as its an "accident."
Mewmus
protest all you want, just don't block the fucking highway
MapToTheCrunch
What's peaceful about protesting in the middle of a busy highway that ambulances have to use?
mmmmmjellybean
Nothing.. their is nothing peaceful about it
RekCahllaw
This has all been illegal for a long time. All the author of the article did was rile you up so you go do something stupid like share it
NickBlight
It's cool I've seen Code: Geass, I know what Trump is up to
partysloth
lmaoo i was thinking this same shit earlier this morning
RjWho
Trump's not the one at fault, the world is
SecondSince
Don't need fiction for that. There are plenty real life examples. None of them turn out good.
Gmayor61
I can't wait until his son decides to overthrow the world.
innodence
Barron vi britrumpia
Xecryo
Don't even dare compare him to Lelouche.
CondescendingCunt
Both Trump and Code Geass (and by extension, Lelouch) are garbage though.
NickBlight
Yea I guess at least Trump was elected /a/LCytX
Sogeking
ftfy
SePetus
Cant wait for Season 3 with Lelouch coming back
Cavy
Fear mongering is so hot right now.
ExcuseMe2
Is it fear mongering to be aware of actual legislation being proposed? "Dude turn your brain off XD"
Cavy
http://imgur.com/pwV9lae
ExcuseMe2
Look at the proposed bills you cheeky cunt. Workarounds are how it starts. But just ignore it I guess because your defense is a 200 year old
ExcuseMe2
Document that you think this government has never changed...
thisisjunk
Do you think the Trump bandwagoners will complain when their guns are taken away in the interest of "national security"?
johnnyhavok
I'm 100% positive this is coming, and it's going to be what breaks Trump's administration. They won't be able to come back from the attempt.
AR10
Everyone said Obama was going to do the same thing. Did it happen? No.
ButterfaceTaintClown
I predict a riot.
NiHZ
It's funny, while I was reading this, that song was on the radio. Shit you not, coral.
Capnrory
they'll never try to take away the guns, they will just take away the rights the guns were meant to protect
Vivificus
Yes
ThisNameLacksPunctuation
It's okay, they can just protest and... oh, wait. Fuck...
drizzler
And we 4chan this and spread the rumor? I want to see everyone stand behind him and then realize how insane they were when they find out.
kmfcm
I don't think they are the ones who have their guns taken away.......just a hunch.
mknickin
Really? Do you think this is going to happen? There are more guns than people in the US. It would be easier to build Trump's wall.
CKnowles
Build the wall with the guns lol
mknickin
I'm not even a Trump supporter. I'm just saying it's idiotic to think that Trump is going to take away guns. The NRA campaigned for Trump.
johnnyhavok
It won't be a straight ban on guns. It will be 1) a registry 2) inspections 3) taxation 4) forfeiture. They won't get beyond 1 though.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
As I said the last 8 years - come and try, Government scum!
ImgurMadeMeChangeMyNameCauseItsDumb
You know know one even tried right?
CommanderWilliamTRiker
I'm aware, but that doesn't mean to suddenly start trusting everyone
thisisjunk
http://www.history.com/s3static/video-thumbnails/AETN-History_Prod/85/336/History_Speeches_2050_FBI_Strikes_Waco_TX_SF_still_624x352.jpg
CommanderWilliamTRiker
WACO - We Ain't Coming Out
Thekingofbeans
Is he not pro gun?
johnnyhavok
He's pro-Trump. If he's using the playbook it looks like he's using, having armed citizens is not in his best interests.
MiniDitka5
He is
KitsunesFire
Nah, Im sure tramp will give them some alternate fact that quells their fears.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
I appreciate your type
NickBlight
Maybe gunpowder causes autism?
TrueNorthernLights
HA! Have an upvote!
2017betterbegood
Or owning a gun makes you gay/muslim/Mexican? The possibilities of the GOP to spin is endless here....
duke605
Okay @OP leave out the most important part "targeting protests that block or obstruct traffic..."
ExcuseMe2
...which is not the only provision. But keep latching only on that.
Kellyb87
He'll keep latching on that for as long as you ignore the other. Women's marches left trash everywhere and BLM= terrorists.
CometLaHal
i mean thanks for telling but dont make a post out of literally just a headline
ExcuseMe2
Myself and others have linked the article in the comments. I'll link it again.
avatarFerret
You have an imgur notification
Flawrence
Read before you share. The bills are about protesters blocking traffic.
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Peaceful, no. Violent, yes.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
NO. They want to criminalize protests that stop traffic.
dialysisinflictor
I'm going to need a better source than "the intercept."
J0765
You provided nothing other than a headline.
YabadabaDoobie
OH IF ONLY THERE WAS A WAY TO SEARCH FOR INFORMATION KNOWN TO HUMANITY. IF ONLY.
boobcat
name a better source? the intercept has a very high standard of fact verification.
ExcuseMe2
The actual proposals are linked in the article...
sansenoy
You have the (amazing) website and the author's name, better than most uploads here.
Oogibah
Im gonna need a better source than "insert any site that doesnt worship trump here"
MegaRaptorX
No, u need to able to see reality for what it is. All of this is public, common knowledge. They're not even trying to hide this.
GameofFutons
They only criminalized peaceful protest that blocks highways... This is a good thing. The media outlets fucked up the titles on purpose
ShadowVlican
This deserves top comment...
GutturalPatois
My thoughts exactly
PlantainSuperNova
GameofFutons
Source: https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/republican-lawmakers-in-five-states-propose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
blessedbl4d3
If this is true, then good. There is no reason to block highways for a protest.
PlantainSuperNova
kmfcm
......well, wait til the first group of people get arrested even though they weren't blocking a highway. I give it a year.
princeslayer
1000x this.
sonofthebat
What about scheduled and organized protests? Lots of protests get permits that involve certain streets.
NamelessAndrew
Source?
ExcuseMe2
Read the article please.
ShadowVlican
Sheep of the media...
TheDuke0fHazzard
How about reading the actual bills and finding what exact part of it is bad?
ExcuseMe2
I have explained in great detail, over the last 3 hours, the parts of the bills that are dangerous. I can't repeat myself every time.
Mavgurian
Suggestion: Write more in the post.
Soulwindow
They basically state that, despite what laws say in them, cars have priority over people, and protesters deserve to die.
TheDuke0fHazzard
I think we may agree on the sentiment, but the wording's kinda harsh. That said, dont get in front of my car when I'm doing 65mph.
GameofFutons
I did and posted a link to it, unlike you.
GutturalPatois
THANK YOU. Such bullshit on the part of OP AND the article. Look at this wording: "In North Dakota, for instance, Republicans introduced a b
GutturalPatois
ill last week that would allow motorists to run over and kill any protester obstructing a highway as long as a driver does so accidentally."
GutturalPatois
That's not "allowing" anything, that's protecting people from liability for accidents they're not and shouldn't be responsible for.
fivefingersnothumbs
When peaceful protests include burning trash cans and tossing things at the cops, then that's why we can't have good things. Fuck liberals.
ExcuseMe2
Right, only liberals do that.
KangaroosAreSeriouslyWeird
Fuck extremists*
littlekidlover0
If peaceful protests shut down traffic and emergency response, it's a crime.
ExcuseMe2
Is it environmental terrorism?
w0ntoan
Yea, three of the five were related to this. Protesting on a highway is dangerous to everyone.
mmmmmjellybean
If they shut down traffic and emergency response then they are not peaceful
Schmedes
The DAPL protestors who blocked the highway and burned cars were considered peaceful...
previoustopcomment
Then let the police remove them, legalizing running them over is not the solution.
CoolClub
The worry is that the law can be used against people filming police. The notion of someone "Interfering with police" could be abused.
TheDuke0fHazzard
It could be, but in context, I think it has to do with rioters assaulting officers
opentokix
Did you know that speed bumps kill 100 times more people then they save? Due to ambulances need to slow down. Worry about that.
TheDuke0fHazzard
The answer is simple: Abolish speed limits!
LunarLamp
Source?
opentokix
You read it on the internet, - good enough for you.
ExcuseMe2
Yeah, protest only matters if it is convenient! Someone should have told Doctor King that.
TheDuke0fHazzard
Telling other citizens "we'll leave you alone when we get what we want" isn't petitioning government. It's bullying.
ExcuseMe2
Then all civil disobedience is just bullying.
Charmedsycophant
someone dying in a ambulance isnt convenient troll its bullshit if that person couldve lived if the protest didnt shutdown the highway.
mmmmmjellybean
This is exactly my point... these people are rioters not protestors.
ExcuseMe2
Naming special circumstances I obviously don't disagree with don't make the proposals any less bad. I'm a troll too? Lol ok.
Charmedsycophant
if i lived near a place where these people actually rioted and my ambulance was being delayed because whiny fucks didnt get their way.1/2
Charmedsycophant
2/2 run you the fuck over. lol ok
heyyouthere1042
I just checked and, at least for MN and ND the law is closing down on the smart people who choose to stand on 50-70mph roads. Yes people..
heyyouthere1042
2) and yes they are creating laws to exempt people who may otherwise accidentally kill a stupid protestor and get charged manslaughter
ExcuseMe2
"Stupid protestor", I will never understand why this country has so much animosity towards protesting. They are "stupid" from the get-go.
MooMooLazyRiver
"Accidentally"
ExcuseMe2
Now read about the other 3 states linked in the article...
VultureTX
I am not seeing any link in your OP to cite these claims.
heyyouthere1042
Just read Washington so that's 3 states with no issue. Single protests at places like the Minnesota airport or in the middle of a 4 lane...
ExcuseMe2
The language of the proposals is vague and allows too much wiggle room. Look at the danger further down the line with something like this.
ExcuseMe2
No issue? The fact that they feel there is a need to pass legislation on protesting at all is the issue buddy...it's wrong.
Brummonater
There is no enforcement of the current laws. I live in Minneapolis, you don't know the kind of hell those interstate blocks caused.
heyyouthere1042
I don't know what you missed out on but there was a protest that cost a A mil and set back the govt on a shit ton of jobs.
ExcuseMe2
So we should just what, legally shoot protestors? Oops, I accidently pushed a protestor on the road...looks like you can smash him with car
heyyouthere1042
The economic bill actually makes a lot of sense, we had a BLM protest that cost my city $1million for blocking roads. You can have protests
ITalkAboutGoats
Right! Like the million man march! Oh wait...
heyyouthere1042
Just don't do it in the middle of the road. That's the only area I see these things targeting is ppl putting themselves and others in danger
heyyouthere1042
2) highway costs the city millions EACH time.
ExcuseMe2
This logic frustrates me, it doesn't follow. So advocation of criminalizing protestors is "sometimes" justified depending on inconvenience??
heyyouthere1042
It's literally the definition of detaining someone. You're familiar with that you're hindering personal freedom and putting lives at risk
heyyouthere1042
You're costing the city tax payer money, more so pissing away your taxpayer money. That's when funds get pulled from other public projects.
CAPSMAN
WHAT HAPPENED TO LINKING A SOURCE OR AN ARTICLE? NAH, LETS JUST BELIEVE IT. STUPID ASSHOLES!!!
ExcuseMe2
Not just The Intercept, the actual proposals are in tue article.
ExcuseMe2
https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/republican-lawmakers-in-five-states-propose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest.h
firebellys
you could also google it yourself. Snopes has a fact check about it.
CAPSMAN
YES BECAUSE SNOPES IS NOT SLANTED ONE WAY AND BESIDES YOU MAKE A CLAIM HERE THE LEAST YOU COULD DO IS LINK SOMETHING TO BACK IT UP.
firebellys
LOUD NOISES
Macalucifer666
If you protest for rights you already have, you are just a fucking retard.
Dontracemebrah
There's a difference between demonstration and protesting.
TheDuke0fHazzard
As a gun nut, 2A activists in states with lax gun laws often protest to raise awareness
ExcuseMe2
Do you know what the women's march was for?
Macalucifer666
Yea, rights they feel they don't have but actually do have they just can't accept their own failures which aren't sex related.
ExcuseMe2
So you are just going to dismiss their concerns? Gotcha.
mmmmmjellybean
What concerns? Fabricated ideas about female suppression in the west while encouraging women to wear Hijabs? Hypocrites and cry babies
ExcuseMe2
I see you live under a rock you permavirgin.
Macalucifer666
They have no concerns
groundginger
The right to protest doesnt mean blocking roads in cities. There are legal ways to protest
StarrrryNight
When you have directives on how you're allowed to protest you should understand that it's not really a protest and you're not really free.
groundginger
Its called right to peacefully assemble
ExcuseMe2
"As long as you protest legally, how the government allows" fuck off.
groundginger
Its called right to peacefully assemble
Gmayor61
No fucking shit. Several people died because protestors were blocking the road. There's a clear cut reason as to why this isn't legal.
mmmmmjellybean
Blocking traffic and preventing emergence vehicles in not legal nor should it be.. you fuck off.
ExcuseMe2
...and it is not the only thing mentioned in the provisions, but none of you bother to read them
mmmmmjellybean
If you bothered to stop defending people that are literally responsible for violence, destruction and death you might not be an idiot
ExcuseMe2
Still not an argument, you aren't following this conversation.
ExcuseMe2
Saying "there are legal ways to protest, so we should criminalize protests I don't like" is fucking retarded logic.
groundginger
Its called right to peacefully assemble
caboops
Saying that it should be legal to block ambulances and firemen from doing their job is what is fucking retarded you short-sighted walnut.
StarrrryNight
Saying I'll allow myself to be dictated to how I'm allowed to protest by the government I'm protesting is fucking retarded.
caboops
Be prepared for consequences if your actions cause harm to other people.
caboops
Saying that it should be legal to block ambulances and firemen from doing their job is what is fucking retarded you short-sighted walnut.
ExcuseMe2
Literally nobody is saying that, the article talks about making civil disobedience a felony and anti-picketing laws, surely you can see how
ExcuseMe2
These laws can be abused. There are bad cops out there, who can just push a protestor in the road and justify an arrest.
caboops
If they are willing to do that, there is nothing stopping them from arresting you anyway, good thing court exists.
Xecryo
I'm not condoning anything but I'm just saying this is the shit gun owners always say the 2nd amendment is for.
Sully0811
Right, if you block travel in an attempt at "peaceful" protest you should be shot. You are the yellow media btw.
Xecryo
But don't you see how much that is not a proportional response. I find it so hard to believe that people will defend a neo nazi who got>
Xecryo
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Arm up, then. 2A applies to both sides of the aisle and everything in between.
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
I wouldn't mind burning this down and starting over.
Xecryo
I think if anything I'd prefer Union divorce. States can start over from a local level. red states can be hyper conservative, blue states>
Xecryo
chillerluvcats
I can see a revolt in the next 4 years if this keeps up and people get way more upset
Xecryo
How is the GOP not revolting now. They've been blinded to their tax dollars, Trump has gross conflict of interest, he's hired the most>
Xecryo
ratcamper
Yes! US citizens have a constitutional ability to stand up to this shit. And weapons. So jealous. Use it or lose it!
kingdav9
Personally, I'm a gun owner and this is what it's for. The tree of liberty must be watered and whatnot.
Xecryo
Lately I've been thinking of buying a gun just in case. Thankfully I also live in WA where this kinda thing wouldn't fly.
BrayerIncognito
Trump was smart enough to win the hearts and minds of most of the gun owners, so I doubt they will take up arms against him.
Gawky
only the government have attack planes, artillery and nukes
remix96
As a liberally I fully believe in gun ownership I just think it needs to be more controlled like who can drive a car where you have to take
remix96
A test and prove you are competent and knowledgeable
LychFinderGeneral
Even if someone tried that, they'd be bringing guns to a drone fight
PorneliusHubertII
Lol i try to explain this to people all the time. Guns are basically slingshots compared to what Bog bro has.
gtmiller
The Constitution does not condone acts of Treason. The Second is to protect individuals from being arrested for owning a gun. In English
gtmiller
history the crown would use gun ownership to round up descent (often Scotts). Shooting a cop/clerk because they might be corrupt will land
gtmiller
you in jail. Problems are resolved in court not in arms.
Ein0r
Me as a foreigner: What does this have to do with the 2nd amendment? Bearing guns at peaceful protest? I dont understand that.
Xecryo
The concept and premise of the 2nd Amendment is that in the event of a government that infringes rights such as the right to peaceful>
Xecryo
gtmiller
The 2nd does not condone an act of Treason. Like what you just stated. It means there cannot be legal consequence for ownership.
TekPriest1975
Except the proposals here are not 'preventing' the protest, They are trying to make it illegal to block highways and such. Common sense shit
Xecryo
"By any means necessary" meaning up to the threat of lethal force. Have fun in your police state.
inb4thewar
Except it's already illegal to do that. Adding in laws to include protesting as part of those crimes is the bad precedent being set
Bend3
From my conversations with/overheard at work. Trump supporters still think its all a great idea and will work out to be the best ever..
puffyjacket69
And I they would just stop voting for stupid tyrrants...
IStoleALoafOfBread
For overthrowing our government (which happens to be in control of the largest military)? Yeah the right to bear arms will really help.
IStoleALoafOfBread
http://imgur.com/B23JY8t
IWasHereFirst
Such an asinine comment. You want to start a cival war or get a bunch of people killed? Peaceful protests are the best answer to this shit.
Xecryo
And see that's the problem. Peaceful protests are in essence an empty threat these days. Because the premise of a protest is to draw>
Xecryo
Xecryo
Xecryo
khtad
It's time for the left to arm itself and stop outsourcing their physical security to the right.
MiniDitka5
Thank you.
gtmiller
No, that isn't even what the 2nd is about. All 2nd does is state gun ownership does not constitute treason. Taking up arms against the gov
gtmiller
is treason. The one thing the Constitution explicitly states is illegal. Anything else anyone says is either the 1st or 5th better explains,
gtmiller
or is just straight up wrong.
chiyo721
We actually do have an amendment for this. First amendment also protects the right to organize and petition the government.
Xecryo
And when the government takes away or curbs that one we have the 2nd.
pgdave
The second amendment doesn't provide cover for people who take up arms against the government, the only crime defined in the Constitution
gtmiller
All the 2nd does is dictate that gun ownership does not in itself prove treason.
mrmeeseekslookatmee
For all the times I heard gun people cry tyranny the past 8yrs I always fear they'll be its biggest champions when it finally does come
CanadianlDude
Maybe that's there plan. Another civil war. Hopefully USA gets government right the second time around.
DrKriegersClone
It's a foregone conclusion which side would win if it comes to violence. They'd just take the excuse to amend the constitution and make 1/
DrKriegersClone
/2 Trump President-for-Life.
fleetfoot
Would be the third time, don't forget the Articles of Confederation
ExcuseMe2
Funny how these bills are being passed by the party which allegedly loves the Second Amendment.
BlueSmok
They're dying to use them maybe?
adrizen
If they use them that way they'll definitely be dying
CKnowles
Did you plan on living forever?
adrizen
"Who wants to live forever?"
Enderskild
Agreed. The parties do not represent the people anymore.
sonofthebat
Yeah but right now it's pretty much just one of them that's a problem. Dems got problems too but free speech ain't one of em.
DownWithATT
People are shitty and will do what's in their best interest regardless of their political affiliations.
Smashallsmurfs
@OP I think you need to read the article by @freesunglasses and add some notes to your post.
ssjalhazred
It's not like they need to worry, the people protesting have spent the past ten years being terrified of gun, not owning them.
bud467
AND which hates big Telling-you-what-to-do- governments. Kinda ironic.
howdoyoucollege
Suicide by rebellion?
Mavgurian
Would not be the first time that soldiers sided with the people in a revolution.
CKnowles
It's better than death by complacency
Xecryo
And the gag order means the tax payers can't see how their money is being spent. For the party that hates paying taxes where they don't want
itsalldownhillfromhere
Its almost like the group with the guns is taking more control of the govenment
TheCochNessMonster
In a nut shell both sides are getting fucked
philcollinsdrumbreakdown
But one side is gleeful about it at the moment
Xecryo
Yeah precisely. For all you know he could be researching alternative power in the form of tying a cat to buttered toast.
Hazzardteen
I appreciate your sarcasm in these dark days friend. Have an upvote.
StrikeFromOrbit
First they take the first amendment. Then they'll come for the second. My gun toting friends laugh saying that's absurd. Just wait guys.
MiniDitka5
Except with the first, you fight them using words. Not saying things can't be solved with words, but guns really get the point across.
Xecryo
If they can do it with one right, they can do it with the others.
DankS0uls
I know this sounds dumb, but living in the south, good fucking luck getting any of our fucking guns back
SecondSince
Then maybe defend other rights just as vigorously? Or does the south not believe in protesting?
DownWithATT
There are protest in the south. We just don't make the news because nobody gives a fuck what we do.
MiniDitka5
Not dumb, true.The government is seriously out gunned. Plus the large number of government agents that wont follow along with their agenda.
SolderGlob
when was the last time you saw a civilian with a fully functional and armed A-10?
iwould
The trick is getting the military to turn against the government. We need some of that firepower if we're gonna have a revolution.
Dranton12
As a gun owner I'm ready. Let's hope it doesn't get that far and reason starts to prevail soon.
Xecryo
As someone who doesn't own guns, watch your government closely when they start doing this. I know it seems cliche but this is how it starts.
UltraBooster
4 years
doctorbees
Hope for the best, expect the worst.
CKnowles
Prepare. Expectations make you a cynic, preparation makes you ready.
doctorbees
As a cynic, I know what I'm about, son.
CKnowles
Fair 'nuff.
StarrrryNight
Kinda back fires when the gun owners are the ones who support the oppression.
CKnowles
Pardon me for saying, but fuck you. Guns don't have party allegiance. Keep denying riflemen in your party and you won't have any.
tlilsmash
Hey man they are doing it to themselves. Anti gun party doesn't have guns. Kindof a duh thing
cleverbeans
There are no anti-gun parties in the US...
CKnowles
There is no anti gun party.
Xecryo
Truth be told I'm thinking of buying a gun just in case. This shit is getting too real.
CKnowles
Do it. TODAY. If you have the funds, get a 22 handgun and a 5.56 rifle. Get a thousand rounds each, in increments. Walmart has it all. PM qs
chillerluvcats
I heard 22 is too cheap buy most people get cause heads hots for zombie apocalypse lol
CKnowles
It serves the basics while being dirt cheap. If we're going to war, get something beefier. If you're learning/teaching, 22 works for all.
HalloweenAintTillManana
Bullshit walmart has it all. Their ammo deliveries disappear in like an hour.
CKnowles
Yeah that's why I added 'in increments'. It's still a good starting point. Not best for any given locale, but good enough and nation wide.
MiniDitka5
Reload your own ammo
CKnowles
Buy a gun FIRST.