Syntax1985
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Sorry but....
Final edit :
There are some really smart, thoughtful individuals on this site and I thank you for conversing with me and discussing the London protests. I still believe the London protests were a waste of time and will do nothing to change the mind of the POTUS.
I like that a lot of the American protestors ( who I full heartedly support ) enjoyed the solidarity from the UK protestors, but honestly, that could've been showing on imgur, facebook, twitter etc, the same way we always show solidarity ( the Paris attacks for example ).
Unfortunately, 90% of the comments have just been people telling me the USA affects the rest of the world ( No shit sherlock's! ), personal abusive attacks on me, or other pointless "fact" spewing in a vain attempt to look "internetz smartz"
So Although I've done my best to reply to most comments, I'm going to stop now.
Also Trump has a really shit global warming policy, so for those of you protesting, can you please pick up your shit. It's bad enough he's going to be pumping out more coal now. Don't make it worse.
Peace.
Original description & edits below.
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I mean, Sure he's a massive dick. But it's not anything to do with us.
And people really want to protest against bad leaders in the world......
I must've missed the Joseph Kony march, the guy literally raping and fucking children.
And I definitely missed the Kim Jong-un march, But I guess he was let off due to his amazing womens rights policies.
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Most viral edit : So after filtering through the rage fest of comments, it seems the speculation for the protests in London filter down to;
#The protest will stop Trump using nukes
#The protest will stop Trump doing anything they don't agree with
#Solidarity: People just showing support to Americans
#Illusion: They actually think a protest in London will somehow overthrow Trump and change the future.
#Social media awareness: They are letting the world know, that Trump is president.
#A bit of fun
But I think what the real conclusion is, NONE OF YOU FUCKING KNOW! You're all just playing a guessing game as to why there were protests and what actual impact they could possibly have.
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Another edit to counter more rage comments ( seriously.. some of you are so tilted it hurts )
I UNDERSTAND that the POTUS makes huge decisions that can affect the world.
Thanks for the information. But that has nothing to do with my post, which is why a protest in London will do anything to change that.
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And another anti edgelord edit :
I love protests, and I think freedom of speech and expression are great things. so we can stop with the @op hates women now. thanks.
That literally has nothing to do with how a protest in London will have any affect on the POTUS.
Anyway, here's the most logical and non-rage filled comment on why it was a good thing
http://imgur.com/gallery/AxL9eAL/comment/930993770
Enjoy.
stopitlucas
Wow, that's ignorant if you think that the US president doesn't have anything to do with your life.
nrkst
jwbonus
What a hock of shit. Let's be counter productive to humanities general existence by standing in the streets and shouting. Fuckin whiners.
ImKindaDone
Because Britain and America are close allies, and our idiot president has the potential to fuck up your economy too.
addie27
It wasn't supposed to be a specified anti-Trump protest (thank you, media). The other marches around the world showed solidarity for women
AngryGroundhog
Really? His climate change denial/energy policies alone should have the whole world up in arms.
cischiral
And yet no one seems to be protesting that
AngryGroundhog
On the contrary, I've seen many a climate-related protest sign in the photos of crowds & a lot of scientists taking part for that reason.
cischiral
Well that is good, but the major news-worthy protests haven't said a word about it, even though global warming and environment are critical.
PequodTaco
Gotta keep my vag rights.
Syntax1985
Did a protest in London against the POTUS help you to keep your vag rights?
Talligan
There are loads of solid comments in here explaining that and you're wilfully ignoring them.
firedemoncalcifer
As an American, I really appreciate other countries expressing solidarity with women here. Many country's leaders have shown support of (1)
firedemoncalcifer
Trump and many of the protests that I saw were related to that. There are also countries experiencing similar changes in power (2)
firedemoncalcifer
and many see them as a western shift in thought that is anti-woman, anti-feminism, and anti-human rights. (3/fin)
Syntax1985
See this is a good answer, and a point that hasn't been raised at all in this post.
Syntax1985
And I forgot to say thank you, Thank you.
Shchenya
Because it's not a protest against Trump but rather a system of ideals he's the new figurehead for.
Raggart
How is this a confession?
CannibalFox
News flash: our president is going to affect you too. Foreign relations? Ever heard of it? United Nations? Ring a bell?
Sendhelpnow
I thought that initially, but this was about solidarity as much as the message, I think.
HannibalHoseth
See the problem right there is Trump being president has A LOT to do with you guys across the pond. It will affect you quite a bit.
theallknowingrealamerican
Because this morons policies will affect the world.
KrustyPartiallyGelatinatedNonDairyGumBasedBeverage
Trump is relevant, particularly with us distancing ourselves from Europe. He will affect plenty of issues globally anyway.
RedDwarfIV
In that case shouldn't we be showing that we WANT to be friendly with Trump's administration, if only to make Brexit go smoother?
KrustyPartiallyGelatinatedNonDairyGumBasedBeverage
For me, I think we should be trying to stay as close to Europe as poss without necessarily being in the EU. Not cosy up to Trump
KrustyPartiallyGelatinatedNonDairyGumBasedBeverage
But then again I want to stay in the EU so I'm obviously going to say that. I can't think of buddying with Trump as a good things though.
marcoyolo69
He wants to dissolve NATO and clear the way for a Russian takeover of eastern Europe so I think it's a pretty global concern
idontmindselfies
I'm not sure he wants a stronger more threatening Russia - I'm not a fan but I suspect he understands how dangerous that is
Wampasully
Every Intelligence agency in the US supports the claim that Russia intervened in the election for Trump. He knows exactly what he is doing.
DrKriegersClone
Well, that's optimistic of you. Why do you think Putin's ambitions stop at only the eastern part of Europe?
DrKriegersClone
(/2) Looks to me like he wants as much as he can take.
eroso
Y. Victory for Trump gave a boost to populist movement in Europe.
Hybris51129
So the nations of Europe will be great again?
eroso
For real, it could be! If Trump manages to fuck up relations with China, this can indeed be great opportunity for Europe.
SecondSince
Not if Europe splinters again through racism/fascism. If you want a strong Europe you need a united Europe. Contrary to what populists say.
JohnnyTitelips
Yeah, that's why the Euro worked so well. Not.
eroso
That's not entirely true. Some smaller countries could benefit of less "united EU". They lose ability to adjust over strenght in numbers.
eroso
Same way how some states could become economically more balanced if they could just get more power to decide about their own politics.
romanaclef
The UK protests weren't _really_ anti Trump so much as anti some of the the issues his election throws into sharp relief. The timing..
catscatscatscat
As a Canadian, we had similar reasons for protesting.
CommonsNorth
I received a flyer at my tube that literally said "oppose Trump and his racism; protest the inauguration" and protest was at the US Embassy
PureTechnicality
As an American, it took me a moment to process "at my tube."
CommonsNorth
As a Canadian, I'm still saying Skytrain/Transit etc. I should be saying Monorail.
romanaclef
..maximises media attention.
iamannaisabel
Hey I was there all day yesterday and it was totally anti-trump and to a lesser extend anti-Brexit
Talligan
Also sends a message to your politicians that you won't tolerate that behaviour
brainplay
Except that they will as they have with other world leaders/dictators. It's virtue signalling at best.
brainplay
Except that they will as they have with other world leaders/dictators. It's virtue signalling at best.
brainplay
Except that they will as they have with other world leaders/dictators. It's virtue signalling at best.
silentxzero
Feel like OP is honestly talking just to talk, edits after explanations are just about how it still makes no difference or no one can know.
Talligan
AND, given the American's place at the top of the food chain, sends a message that we won't tolerate shenanigans from them
brainplay
You've been tolerating shenanigans from dictators and foreign leader for years. Outside of virtue signalling what is going to change?
brainplay
Since when have you ever not tolerated shennanigans from any other foreign leader or dictator
brainplay
You've been tolerating shenanigans from dictators and foreign leader for years. Outside of virtue signalling what is going to change?
Affray
Not that I'm the type to liken Trump to Hitler, but people outside Germany were pretty concerned when Hitler rose to power weren't they.
d0o0o0d
Depends on if they were east of Germany or west of it. The countries to the east were kind of "oh shit, stuck between Stalin and this nut"
DonaldMcLeod
Not really.
DemonicPossum
Well, it was called a womens march.... i assume you have those in the UK? Maybe you're not treating them as well as they want?
Syntax1985
Surely if we are treating them well then they have no reason to march.
DemonicPossum
Agreed, you should get on that.
Syntax1985
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38700123
DemonicPossum
1/ I don't understand. this article says "as part of UK-wide rallies to highlight women's rights". That's why people are marching
Syntax1985
If you watch video & read signs, its mostly anti trump
DemonicPossum
2/ do you just not like that those protests got grouped with the anti-trump protests?
WalterKrunkite
Because Trump's shit will probably splatter on Europe, too. Could indirectly impact the UK.
idontmindselfies
I don't think we are at the front of the queue sadly - he's a business man first and foremost and will assess the opportunities
Syntax1985
We have our own laws that protect womens rights, something neiother Trump or any other foriegn leader has control over.
Syntax1985
neither*
WalterKrunkite
True, but this is a way of Brit women telling Brit politicians that Trump-style bullshit isn't cool with them. Likely nothing more
greasemeuplunchladydoris
Thank you for this. It's something I hadn't considered.
Syntax1985
wow. a well thought logical reply. I was beginning to think such thing would not exist in this post.
WalterKrunkite
I try not to say stupid things, even on the internet. It's a horrible limitation of mine
Syntax1985
You're still the only one to post a viable reply. The rest have just been "because , social justice!" responces.
supergreenpasta
I thought it was about womens' rights...
Order66exe
Yeah I have absolutely no idea what the marching is about. Women's rights? In USA what rights don't they have that men do?
fatchicksneedluvintoo
We do have all of the same rights and chances that men do. Some people just look for reasons to whine and protest, especially super-libs!
mechanicalchaos
Trump opposes some serious women's issues. Hence why it was done the day of his inauguration.
iamannaisabel
I'm an American in London and I went (obvious reasons). Others went to show solidarity for women in the US who feel a sexist president 1/?
iamannaisabel
won't be able to govern fairly. To support women's rights to choose. And to send a message that the rise of the far right which is 2/?
iamannaisabel
on the rise in Europe as well in America will be met with resistance. 3/3
Fleaturtle
This is a really good answer.
KnightsOfShame
Because we hold the US to a higher standard than the rest of the world. And when your friend makes a mistakes you tell them.
YouWillNotLikeThis
*same standard as other western democracys. People protested when Poland went crazy back in 2016
JohnnyTitelips
*democracies. And no, it's definitely held to a higher standard, as it should be, since it's the global hegemon.
YouWillNotLikeThis
Same standard as others. US just dominates the media picture because US is the biggest media creator
JohnnyTitelips
It's held to a much higher standard. The U.S. is ridiculed for relatively minor issues while unimportant countries with (1/2)
JohnnyTitelips
(proportionally) bigger problems fly under the radar.
ChannelingLarryDavid
ay we done fucked up big time, apologies from across the pond.
uiporweqiuopwqeriuoprewqiouprweqiuop
How old are you?
eroso
Username checks out.
uiporweqiuopwqeriuoprewqiouprweqiuop
Oh, and by the way; the way the British seem to feel about our countries "relationship" is basically the way the Argentinians still feel
uiporweqiuopwqeriuoprewqiouprweqiuop
about the Falklands War. It only matters to you.
utgort
There are a group of people that believes it was a terrible mistake. Those are the Hillary supporters. I did not vote for him.
JohnnyTitelips
They're also a majority of the population.
utgort
Only in her mind, biggest block are independents. She took California accounts for those millions. But CA does not award proportionally.
JohnnyTitelips
No, I don't mean to say that a majority of the population likes Hillary. Only that a majority preferred/prefers her to Trump.
utgort
Careful. Something over 90 million eligible voters chose to not vote. That number would probably have been smaller with other candidates.
Wampasully
She won the popular vote. Quite literally, the majority of voters prefer her.
Wastyvez
You're either ignorant or naive if you think that economical and foreign policy decisions made in the US don't affect you in the UK.
robertocrow
To be fair you have to be pretty naive to believe a protest in London is going to affect what Trump does.
idontmindselfies
I don't think people here are naive to US influence but compared to many others - US policy isn't top priority or driver
Wastyvez
No? Look at the two biggest recessions of the century, both can be traced back to economical policy decisions made in the US.
worldtraversingsquirrel
maybe because neither Uganda nor North Korea are considered close political allies/cultural role models.
Lulumegan
Plus hating Kony went viral for...a bit. These marches did too. And yeah, those guys aren't supposed to be the "leader of free world" either
iggyface
Cultural role model? Americana is a huge cultural landmark but role model is just untrue.
worldtraversingsquirrel
you're right. We never listen to their music, read their books, watch their films, eat at their fast food chains... wait.
RisingSol
Or have near the same level of world influence that America has.
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
Since when does the UK view Americans as role models?
CptRobotNinja
You had me up until cultural role models
worldtraversingsquirrel
you're right, it's not like we listen to their music, their movies, the fast food chains, their... wait.
Terminal56
Hes right you know
plzwhateverisokforme
@op is such a buffon.
digitalist1
Brittan must be so proud of us, once one of there colonies now... "role models"
imgurliestome
Don't ever talk to me or my son ever again -kim
StarryPlough
God help anyone who sees Americans as cultural role models
SirBrendan
We all agreed back in '72 to let the Americans have their myths. They get a kick out of it and doesn't hurt us any.You go, land of the free!
Talligan
Not so much role models, but are the world's sole super power. What you do affects us all. Not so much Kony or N. Korea.
Theothercword
Especially after this election... hence the protests ;-)
SirBrendan
We all agreed back in '72 to let the Americans have their myths. They get a kick out of it and doesn't hurt us any.You go, land of the free!
Fatpicasso
In the time it took you to make this, you couldve looked up why they were, but that wouldn't've gotten you points. & Kony was protested LOL.
iamtigers
Lol read this comment thread, op is an ass man.
Syntax1985
Could you re-type this in English please.
Fatpicasso
Are you illiterate? Kony was the worst example b/c there were protests & it took you longer to make this than to research what it was about
Syntax1985
Thank you for translating your earlier gibberish into a readable format. It took me about 20 seconds to make this.
prawnklng
Probably about the same time it took your father you make you.
Fatpicasso
How was the first one wrong? Just because you can't read doesn't make it wrong
Syntax1985
I never said it was wrong, But an apparent disregard for basic grammar and syntax made it unclear. Thank you for fixing it.
lottahullabaloo
Sorry, commented in the wrong spot. That wasn't ai edited at you fatpicasso
lottahullabaloo
Correct or not, it was easily understandable. You're really just being a dick.
OhGodReallyAnotherUsername
The anti-Trump message was only one aspect of the marches. The unifying theme is equality for all.
WithPride
Uh huh. That sounds like a load of bull shit to me.
kiruwa
unless you were white, of course
Ifindbutterfliesabsolutelyterrifying
Amen
vegeta420gokublazerbieber
Is that also equality for the half of women that believe abortion is murder
DrunkardsDream
If you believe abortion is wrong, don't have one. If- God forbid- you need to end a pregnancy it should be safe and legal.
d0o0o0d
It's pretty obvious that this was originally planned to be a celebration of Hillary becoming President, just got re-branded when she lost.
uiporweqiuopwqeriuoprewqiouprweqiuop
*except for anyone with differing politics
HelloMax
Sounds as disorganized as occupy wall street
Bruhbeans
Yes, a voice against the worldwide rise of nationalism and the rights it would limit should they gain more power
SpareMacaroni
Im uneducated but why is nationalism bad?
DrKriegersClone
Look at what Trump wants to do about international trade - "give and take, but mostly take". He thinks America deserves favourable rather 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ than equal terms in any deal it makes because he's a nationalist who thinks his nation is superior. But of course every other country
DrKriegersClone
3/ is going to resent being pressured to subservient terms in revised treaties, making trade wars & other economic retaliation a pressing
Hybris51129
Nationalism is not bad in moderation but many European nations remember all too well what happened the last time nationalism went out (1)
Hybris51129
of control. This is one reason why the various nations of Europe often look down on American culture because such a major (2)
Hybris51129
part of it is built on national pride. (3/3)
Knillis
Well, it magnifies differences between countries and tells each country 'you are the best'. A lot of (gruesome) wars were fought due to it.
iggyface
It isn't in its more moderate state. It can become extreme and violent. But so can globalization if its extreme enough.
BeesechurgerProductions
It's radical patriotism, the belief that your nation is so superior that it should rule over all other nations
Bruhbeans
Because it lets emotions rule, and not the mind. It's a step back towards agression, it's focusses on a flag rather then a individual.
Shiroto
I hate to break it to you, but the progressive left embodies the tenents of facism
Bruhbeans
It draws lines and pitts people against each other for fictional reasons and enforces stereotypes. Also it always comes with scape goats
Bruhbeans
It also comes with authoritarian leaders who curb rights (see Trumps battle against the press), lie and enrich themselfs.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
I saw nothing about anything but black lives matter and fuck trump in Boston yesterday and there were about 100k people there
fortheloveofbutter
And you saw everything single one!
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Obviously not, but I do work off of boston common, so I did see a large amount and can use that as a fairly representative sample.
colonelraleigh
Very very different vibe here in Toronto, then.
Hoysters
Outside of America is was more of a unity thing, inside it was a way to show that the people wouldn't tolerate rights being taken away.
Nushugazi
@OP if you think the president of the U.S. has no effect on anything outside of the U.S., that's just plain wrong.
Syntax1985
It really isnt a matter if influence of the POTUS, its the influence of a protest in London , AFTER the POTUS has already been elected.
Nushugazi
So you're saying that people shouldn't protest in London because they won't affect anything?
Kaofael
Out of curiosity what difference does it make if other countries don't like the POTUS?
Kaofael
Out of curiosity what difference does it make if other countries don't like the POTUS?
Hybris51129
Honestly not as much as people want to think. Given the position the US has in the world we're under a constant stream of hate (1)
Hybris51129
opposition, and ridicule to the point that we wouldn't really notice anything new especially since as usual it wouldn't (2)
Syntax1985
I'm saying they should have done it a few months ago, when it wouldve made a differnce.
CountAiight
It still shows solidarity in what the people protesting in the States want. It speaks loudly to law makers.
Nushugazi
I think a few months ago, y'all didn't think we were stupid enough to actually elect him.
Syntax1985
you know, you raise a fucking good point.
Patches3000
It's a statement of solidarity among women of the world. To show that many believe women shouldn't be treated that way.
fatchicksneedluvintoo
I am a woman and I voted for Trump. Yep, I am a Trumpette. Yep, I am proud! Fuck all the cry babies!!
fatchicksneedluvintoo
I am a woman and I voted for Trump. Yep, I am a Trumpette. Yep, I am proud! Fuck all the cry babies!!
ffilm
People can say what they want, but the protests are really about *one* thing: "We don't like that people can think different than we do!"
RagtimeRaver
Says the person who's whining about the protesters.
ShockTheMonk
Why aren't they protesting places like Saudi Arabia then? Why make it about an American president?
idontmindselfies
I guess faults of Islamic culture are known, whereas the US is incredibly important in terms of western values that it's a concern
Patches3000
Because they'd maybe be killed in Saudi Arabia? I don't know for sure but that is my speculation.
Hoysters
Because change comes from within always. The people of the country need to want and fight for change and then others can support them.
LieutenantGordon
Just because it's bad in Saudia Arabia doesn't mean other women don't have problems.
ShockTheMonk
Okay but it comes off as a little entitled. "This guy MIGHT take away our rights" while real women are suffering horribly.
LieutenantGordon
So American women aren't real women? Having a problem with a president who brags about sexually assaulting women is entitled?
ShockTheMonk
I never said they aren't real women. I'm saying that their 'suffering' is not even comparable to what women in the middle east deal with
ikma
This is hard to do in 140 characters bursts, & I don't know if I'm the best person for it, but I'll try to sum it up without editorializing:
ikma
Why aren't the same people protesting the treatment of women in areas that are significantly more repressive?
ikma
(5/11) The US, on the other hand, is seen to be moving BACKWARDS on women's rights and gender equality. Also, there is historical precedent
ShockTheMonk
That's a really well summarized bit of info. Too bad it will change literally nothing. Republicans won, and people need to accept it.
ikma
(9/11) improve human rights all over the world, including in these repressive areas. Finally, I don't want to speculate about your
ikma
(3/11) because they don't feel impacted by it. This is unlike the US, which has strong cultural and social ties to the areas which hosted
ikma
(10/11) thoughts/opinions. But unless you are actively concerned about women's rights in Saudi Arabia, paying them lip service in order to
ikma
(11/11) deligitimize another women's rights movement is deplorable.
ikma
(1/11) To an average American/Brit/European, your example of Saudi Arabia feels very remote. Since people don't feel connected to the
ikma
(2/11) area/culture, the prospect that they can really change anything seems unlikely, and they feel less of an imperative to affect change
ikma
(4/11) protests. There is also an impression (correct or not) that those parts of the world have always been that way and cannot be changed.
ikma
(7/11) is happening in Saudi Arabia (for example)? No. But it means that the protesters are human and are acting with human motivations, and
ikma
(6/11) in the US of large protests sparking social change and affecting governmental policy. Does this mean that it is right to ignore what
ikma
(8/11) regardless of your personal views, the protests serve a rational purpose. Also, keep in mind that there ARE women and men working to
ikma
Why protest outside the US?
ikma
(1/1) In a show of solidarity, like @LieutenantGordon said.
ikma
Why protest?
ikma
(5/5) policies are widely opposed and to push back against the perceived social momentum towards the normalization of misogyny.
ikma
(1/5) The Rupublican party's policy goals (defunding planned parenthood, nominating a supreme court justice who would overturn Roe v. Wade,
ikma
(3/5) election to arguably the most powerful position in the world was seen as both a political threat to women's rights and a potential
ikma
(4/5) step backwards for all of the social progress that has been made on gender equality. The protests sought to make clear that these
ikma
(2/5) etc.) are opposed to commonly expressed women's rights. In addition, Trump has made many, many comments that demean women. His
creatingthiswhileiamdruck
So many people are not understanding that. It's not ANTI-Trump; It's ANTI racism, sexism and unequalness amount peoples. All people.
creatingthiswhileiamdruck
* oops. meant among, not amount.
samspade74
Didn't see anybody protesting when the goblin queen became prime minister.
iggyface
'goblin queen'? Why? Because of appearance or are we burning women in power in effigy again and pretending we aren't sexist?
samspade74
Because it's a goblin faced politician. Got nothing to do with its gender.
DanBartStart
Charlie Brooker describing her as a "haunted art dealer" tickled me.
lnecrymm
that man married my childhood crush, konnie huq off of blue peter. still like his show though
qwygl
Oh shit Charlie Booker married Konnie Huq? She was the best newsround presenter tbh.
pizzakitten
That's because thoughtcrime has been outlawed by Overseer May's glorious new regime.
Countercheck
I don't see anything wrong with the woman who came up with, and then pushed through the 'everyone spy on my porn history bill' becoming PM.
Countercheck
Nope, nothing at all
romanaclef
Actually, there were protests objecting to her appointment as prime minister. But I think the Brexit vote exercised people more.
oheeohahahtingtangwallawallabingbang
Weren't too many complaining when Juncker was 'selected' to be eu commission president, or Schulz as parliament president or Tusk...etc
Saukoeter
Nobody is protesting against left-wing politicians. Some people have to go to work
Iaimtomisbehave
I, kinda wanted to protest her henchman:
. ("Look at all these wankers.")
ChrisLucas1
I've met Boris, he's fucking hilarious. I mean he's also a walking stereotype of an eccentric toff, but still...
KoRplussomeletters
I would infinitely prefer Boris to High Chancellor May.
Shchenya
I did, I was standing next to them.
tagmomg
Honestly I think everyone was busy at the time thinking "FINALLY! THE PIG FUCKER'S GONE! HAMERON IS DEAD, LONG LIVE WHATSHERFACE!"
tagmomg
That and we've arguably not had a decent politician bar 1 for the past 30 or 40 years, so all we can manage by now is resigned sighs.
Trevanion
Who is your bar 1?
tagmomg
I was going to say "The guy between John Major and Tony Blair", but looking up the list of politicians I think I actually meant John Major.
tagmomg
(2/1) I'll be honest, my knowledge of any politician before Tony Blair comes from a mix of brief conversations and Spitting Image, so...
djneill
Why would we be protesting our government functioning properly?
phizatmatt
If your talking about EU, why was Diana cremated imminedetly after death? I hear it was against French law, yet no one's held accountable.
phizatmatt
why this old case? Because it's dire to help you realize that you will never know real truth. Perspective is skewed in all society.
sausage1234
I'm fairly certain that Diana was never cremated... she was buried six days after her death.
phizatmatt
I'm fairly certain well never know.
Teesea
Because the alternatives were worse.
zoomusic
Wis a pure dreich morn so we all copped our scratchers
Ranier
As much as I hate Trump, at least he was elected. Ms May was not. Her husband is a rather rich too
sausage1234
She was elected, as a MP. The British system works that anyone who is an MP has the possibility of becoming PM. so...
Ranier
True, but that just means the system needs reworked. A lot of people probably wouldn't have voted Tory if she was standing for PM.
sausage1234
not sure how you'd change the system, have a whole new general election when Cameron resigned? seems exspensive
Ranier
Having an equivalent to a VP, some1 who would fill the shoes if the PM steps down. Then people would know who the 2nd in line is when voting
DemonicShoe
I did
3point141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105
Especially when she wasn't even fucking elected
whoareYOUlookingat
Nobody elects a prime minister
3point141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105
Yeah sorry, I just realised how my comment sounded. My bad folks
CPatricoo
You absolutely do. You pretend that you dont but you know full well most prime ministers are preordained.
whoareYOUlookingat
But I think we needed a general election though
whoareYOUlookingat
No you vote for your MP and your MP votes for the prime minister. You can use that as a reason to vote but at the end of the day no one 1/2
whoareYOUlookingat
Literally votes for a prime minister 2/2
DJTrickyM
Buckbeak1486
Who is the Goblin Queen?
RepostSadistic
Teresa May. She is a Tory, which is a shorthand for 'worse than Hitler'. Half the world is worse than Hitler, don't you know?
Estbgti
I'm more Tory than labour but even I think May is a shrivelled old witch.
Theunimaginativeone
Hey they don't actively harm minorities,well apart from the poor,the disabled oh and and the anyone from a different country
iggyface
Fuck off with this virtue signalling bullshit. Labour and con are basically the same party these days.
W92Baj
It not being a Tory that makes her worse than Hitler. Its her being worse than Hitler that makes her worse than Hitler.
DispleasedDog
I'm not looking for a political argument, but I'm just curious as to why she is 'the goblin queen'?
yzark01
because it seems like shes aspiring to be as bad as thatcher
LionOfRome
Theresa May or Margaret Thatcher?
DrKriegersClone
I don't really see it. Certainly not on the levels of Putin resembling Dobby.
oynsy
She physically resembles a goblin
samspade74
The first time I saw here she reminded me of one of the goblins in the shelobs lair scene in the return of the king.
DispleasedDog
Oh fair enough then, I thought you were insulting her as PM and was just curious to know why she is so unpopular.
Patches3000
As am I.
GloriousMonkfish
I second this.
hollowcoffee
I prefer goblin queen over pig fucker being honest with you lad.
ydwyrd
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/2e/Madelyne_Pryor_(Earth-616).jpg Yeah, Goblin Queen is hot.
DickDastardly404
I prefer diarrhea over constipation, but I'd rather have neither
Syntax1985
plot twist, the goblin queen was the pig.
MildlyShockedSirPatrickStewart
As an American, the fuck are you people talking about?
AccidentProneTheSecond
David Cameron fucked a pig head, Theresa May looks like a goblin.
rickyinaustin
Do y'all think the Black Mirror season 1 ep.1 was playing on this?
Syntax1985
our prime minister ( David Cameron ), put his penis inside of a pigs mouth when he was in UNI. ( pig fucker ) , after the brexit vote, he
Slashinhobo
Surprised he has a dick since pigs literally eat anything, unless it was out of it or dead.
Sobutai
I believe there were some others from the same College (or Uni) that responded to the pig fucking by saying "It's just a spot of fun."
MildlyShockedSirPatrickStewart
So wait, your PM actually fucked a pig? That wasn't just a Black Mirror episode?
rickyinaustin
Do y'all think the Black Mirror season 1 ep.1 was playing on this?
ElecTech
Must be the first time in history left-wingers instantly believed the Daily Mail.
ReverendAurora
As a disabled person looking down the barrel of yet more benefit cuts, I'd prefer the entire party to just throw itself in front of a bus.
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peteiscool
Out of all those I'd still take the lib dems. They lie less often as far as I can see
ChrisLucas1
Could be worse... You could be living in the United States, where our welfare system is just a pipe dream to them.
MarcusTylerPhotography
Agreed I work as a support worker in the community for people with additional needs and we are pushing ourselves to the limit to provide.
Wampasully
I get the sentiment, but any leader of a powerful nation's views on foreign affairs are relevant to everyone in the world.
crayon98
Exactly! The POTUS isn't named the leader of the free world for no reason
mydailydoseofantidepressantsisyourbooty
Exactly. Not to sound like that 'Murican, but we have our hands in EVERYTHING (for better or worse). Every1 should care who's our President.
DrKriegersClone
Trade war for you, trade war for you, trade wars for EVERYBODY! :s
WithPride
It doesn't mean that protests will change anything. People are delusional.
aselfdefeatingattitude
"Might as well not even try."
SteveHarringtonBabysittingServices
A threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
kinslayers0
How about protesting the actual countries that suppress women rights like in the middle east?
MutinusTitinus
His views on climate change also have an impact on the rest of the world.
liquidbeef
What's climate change? Wait don't answer that I can't hear you lalalalalalala
OtherErinFromTheOffice
His views are awful. Not just "I don't believe in climate change" - it's "climate change is an evil lie and i will put an end to it"
Tunisia
Especially as the US can basic dictate trade agreements to us after Brexit.
idontmindselfies
Not quite, about 14% of UK trade is with the US and without EU embargoes the U.K. will trade with more partners (or aims to at least)
erischilde
Especially when they're close allies. Showing your own government you aren't happy with its allies may change how they interact with them...
crodps
Amen, brother:
Aspenator42
Still waiting. Shocked it didn't happen day one
evilblackdog
Trump wants to pull back to take care of ourselves. Isn't that what the world has been begging for?
payamsaid13
Except youre doing it after a fuckton of fiascos, a huge conflict and a massive immigration wave. One that you caused by trying to fill
payamsaid13
A power vaccuum which lead to ISIS and now that the shitstorm you caused is upon Europe, youre pulling out.
somewealthyamerican
Yeah but they forgot they weren't paying into NATO, now Trump's gonna twist their arm to make them pay what was agreed upon or were leaving.
djcoffi
Which doesn't sound strange to me, really. Europe (combined) is richer than America but pays less? Makes no sense.
Nova225
It's because the US agrees to pay in so much, that the EU doesn't have to. With the US backing out, the EU has to make up the difference
aleatorical
Not just a powerful nation. The United States is inarguably the single most influential nation on world politics and economics.
thecrossthebridge
How anyone can view the US elections as an isolated event and the US president as irrelevant is absolutely astonishing to me.
Thatusernamehasalreadybeen
Britain voted for Brexit and the next day "wait, what's the EU?" They aren't the smartest when it comes to world politics.
01001000011000010111001001100001011011010110001001100101
I hadn't realized British media was as scummy as America's until I saw that "What's the EU" b.s. in the news after the referendum
Hybris51129
And yet many I have seen on Imgur are quick to dismiss the idea that the US is a world superpower. My theory is that many in the world (1)
Hybris51129
are realizing that their countries for all their supposed good they are, are in reality powerless compared with the "uncivilized" (2)
Hybris51129
Americans and thus have a near obsessive desire to drag the US down to their level so they no longer have another nation looming (3)
Hybris51129
over them that does so in ways that are often complete opposite of how its done in their own countries. (4/4)
Syntax1985
Obama had 0 direct effect on my rights as a human being and pretty much my life in general.
diablodeldragoon
Based on Obamas speech about brexit, he believed that it wasn't his place to try to influence other nations. Except for the one he bombed
diablodeldragoon
*ones
somewealthyamerican
Actually we gave like 300 billion to the largest terror sponsor in the world, Iran. So that may bring some backlash eventually.
fartalert
"Direct effect". I've never had a politician knocking on my door, all politics are kinda indirect if you think about it
teardropivyyearofthetiger
Because he was a good president
MooseGoneMeh
You've been downvoted but I don't think anyone has disproven your statement...
imapencil
2/? This led to the 5 armies war in Syria that triggered massive immigration into Europe.
imapencil
5/ I can go into the 2008 crash and other more subtle stuff if you want.
imapencil
1/? Obama was funding the insurgency in Syria and also his actions in the region helped in the creation of ISIS.
imapencil
4/? And also Trump presidential campaign, all of these played a role in Brexit referendum. Just a small one maybe, enough for the outcome.
imapencil
3/? That led to the rise of the far right parties in Europe and nationalisam.
NoYouNeedYOURStomachPumped
Obama was not looking to shake up foreign affairs. He took boots off the ground in the Middle East. Trump wants to build a wall.
thecmerrilees
Yeah from 2 countries to 5 where the US is in active conflict..
Wampasully
Trump wishes to dismantle or at the very least weaken NATO. Tell me that won't affect you if Russia gets the old band back together.
pvtwestbrook86
Do you know what NATO does, and why it was established? Do you know how each member contributes to NATO? If you do, then you understand 1/
pvtwestbrook86
Why Trump and many others are critical of America's role in NATO and why it needs to change.
RubyPorto
As Lord John Marbury said: "That's the price you pay for being rich, free, and alive all at the same time." The US gets enough value out of+
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Being critical or not isn't the point. The point is that altering it WILL affect OP as a citizen of a NATO aligned nation.
PatrickJIIIMcGuigan
NATO was never meat to expand to the Russian border. This was the policy of W Bush and Berry. Eisenhower warned us against it years ago.
Syntax1985
Which is a fair point, but thats not why they are protesting is it?
Syntax1985
And where was this mass voice of the UK for american polotics before he won the election? when it could've actually mean something?
SilentInSUB
Why would Americans ever feel influenced by what your country, or any country, thinks of their presidential candidates?
airen
He also wants to resind gay rights in america and take away abortions which could be effected on a global scale since its not the first
GodzillaBoomingMarketOfDiabetes
That is false information, you are fake comment news.
airen
Country to do it. America is often one example of 'first world country'
Wampasully
Irrelevant. You said it has nothing to do with your country, and it does.
Syntax1985
Right....
opentokix
@OP Because he opposed the UN, want to minimize US help in NATO to start.
walkingtallmachinegunman
That's what I'm mostly concerned with. I'm stationed at a NATO post. Curious to see how it could affect me directly
Erries
You say that as if it's bad. Are you saying that's bad? May want to do some research if you are.
d0o0o0d
He wants NATO members to live up to their commitments. Y'all are shorting on the military spend, and Russia is getting pushy.
d0o0o0d
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/news/nato-summit-spending-countries/
Wampasully
So the answer to that is removing our funding so an already underfunded NATO has to deal with a "pushy" Russia? Brilliant!
d0o0o0d
NATO is an alliance, not a welfare program.
somewealthyamerican
And I back Trump on NATO, most other countries aren't paying 1% gdp when 2% was agreed on, while the US has been at 3.6% for a decade. And >
somewealthyamerican
If you haven't noticed, we've been fucking up our economy for the last few decades.
ChirpHard
Yea, internally we need some work
Hybris51129
This is why I half jokingly suggest that the members not paying for defense pay for American healthcare instead.
somewealthyamerican
That's pretty funny.
Syntax1985
he opposed the UN before he was elected, and had people protested then, it could've made a difference. They arent going to remove the POTUS
meta666
No one thinks the marches will result in his removal.
meta666
No one thinks the marches would result in his removal.
coop61gt
Nobody actually thought he would win.
somewealthyamerican
It was a wild election night.
IJustLikeToArgue
Nobody? You mean, no Democrats. There were a lot of us who thought he had a very good chance of winning.
Syntax1985
because of a march in the UK.
bout2callbovice
He won't be removed because of a US march either. But it's a showing to remind him that the literal majority of US/world doesn't agree w him
bout2callbovice
He has no mandate, and republicans in congress would be wise to remember that. This march was a visual illustration of that.
opentokix
@OP I am sorry you have problems seeing big pictures, it's ok.
Syntax1985
Im sorry you feel you are such a special little flower you can make big changes overseas.
IRespondWithSpongebobGifsUsually
You are correct that it probably won't help in the slightest, but the fact of the matter is that if trump does anything dumb(1/?)
Keilser
I feel the same about the women in Canada who are marching
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
I really don't understand this whole women's march thing.
Keilser
You and me both
battymynameis
https://www.womensmarch.com/principles
evilblackdog
Nobody wants our influence but they all want our money and soldiers.
spaizkadett
Listen fucker all of Nato joined your shitty wars in iraq and Afghanistan, so stfu!
pgarc90
NATO wasn't directly involved in Iraq
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Exactly. Why the fuck is the United States bankrolling the defense of the western world at the expense of our infrastructure and educations?
kawwmoi
Cause 'Murica Fuck Yeah! At some point we switch to walk loud and stupid while carrying the biggest stick you can afford.
FrozenCoast
Because it is making a very few influential Americans rich as fuck and they keep pushing for it.
biggwhytey
Globalism.
Bruhbeans
Because we're allies, and the only countries sharing the same virtues (freedom of press, equality). We form the most powerfull block in the
Bruhbeans
World. Thereby asssuring our view on life stays dominant. That is why putin wants to break us up
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
So why does America need to bankroll this almost exclusively?
PompatusOfLove
Why does America want this. Not need. No foreign nation is pushing us.
Bruhbeans
Because it's the leader and founder of the NATO. And is the one who is activaly using it (Libya, Afg. etc). But i agree us europeans should