SuperGeniusPS
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The referenced deepfake: https://youtu.be/wrHXA2cSpNU
Jul 26, 2021 2:05 PM
SuperGeniusPS
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2152
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The referenced deepfake: https://youtu.be/wrHXA2cSpNU
send2charlie9000
Should have named movie the Malodorian.
fiddlewheelx
Holy crap I still get teary eyed when seeing Luke as his young self like this
chrismofer
I thought it was Corridor Digital but this guy beat them by a year
LUH3417v2
Now do Jarjar Binks!
anglarite
Best way to make him lose his passion in less than six months.
undeadhobo
Should have just had mark hamill? Not like they didnt de-age half the marvel cast at one point or another
Probaton
#1 do x
RandomQuack
I prefer the videos with the Luke Skywalker theme music overlaid...
omngentryo
I didn't think his work was any better to be honest
soulteepee
I’ve noticed they never put enough light and reflection in eyes. Eyes need to be treated like glass/water, not an opaque surface.
TheobromineAddict
Shit. I can't see the difference.
fowlersleftfoot
I didn’t think it was that bad. These days Star Wars fandom seems to just be a hierarchy of whoever hates it the most.
MadHakon
It wasn't bad. They chose someone who could believably pass off as Luke. This is just fandom being toxic about something trivial
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
Meh, show went downhill after Season 1 anyway.
RowanUnderwood
If anybody else want to give it a try https://github.com/iperov/DeepFaceLab
stronomer
Sorry, actors. Disney doesn't need any of you anymore. Ever.
Revadarius
Was really hoping it was the Corridor Crew's overhaul ?
DrEgg
Me too, they did really good job. Will have to compare against this artist's work...
tschallacka
This artists work is better imho
PolyTheWicked
I didn’t think it was bad until I saw the deepfake video.
Selerox
Just checked more of his stuff out, and it's fucking UNREAL.
push2play
They should have just used a different actor. I really dislike this CGI/deepfake crap. Are we incapable of suspending disbelief anymore?
RowanUnderwood
I prefer the deepfake because its a couple orders of magnitude cheaper and therefore Luke becomes likely to be a recurring character.
Lazarillo
Or they could, I dunno, do original stories with original characters?
SuperGeniusPS
I agree, but clearly some executive doesn't. I thought the recast for Mon Mothma was great and much better than the CG people
Br0doSwaggins
Fun Fact: Mon Mothma in Rogue One first played the character in scenes that were cut from Revenge of the Sith.
IsThisAlreadyChosen
Aha, I watched that corridor crew video. They did a great job and made the scene completely different.
gersploosh
I think it looked fine, the only one that bothered me was Leia in Rogue One. I wasn’t really even bothered by the Tarkin one, that everyone
gersploosh
Got all worked up about.
3dartwork
Tremendously better
fign37
Wasn’t there a guy that looked just like Hamill when he was young on a post here a while ago
Mark2dot0
Sebastian Stan who plays the Winter Soldier/Bucky is the one I usually see.
2graves
Yeah but that was years ago
sj2890
They both look bad to me.
ItsMeSanders
Just read his YouTube comment on the video. He said it would be much better if he had the original before the CGI was added
DaFil
The guys from corridor crew made a good one I wonder if it was one of them.
RideTheStimutacs
Theirs was an entirely new shot though, which looked inconsistent when spliced into the actual footage. This one used the show scene.
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
it was good but considering the resources, what this guy did is way more impressive.
CrusherOfCities
Looks to be Shamook. Same guy that made the deepfake that wrecked the multi-million dollar de-aging CGI they made for The Irishman.
Ifacatsbuttholeisonly2inchesoffthegroundwhyisitalwaysateyelevel
Soooo.... basically they just added more glimmer to his eyes?
ddbrown30
Fixed the shadows, as well.
MissivesFromTheTower
*Sailormoon voice*: uWu force-chan, I weawy hate to use you wike this... *force chokes*
CrusherOfCities
Basically some guy (Shamook) with open-source deepfake software is outperforming multi-million dollar budgets for proprietary CGI software.
jhsuber
They also changed the nose contour and a bit of cheekbones, but latter varies by shot, it’s a bit n64 goldeneye-esque face mapping
ThreeLineRifle
That.... that is not good. Did someone turn on DK mode too?
FrankTheThunderbird
Maybe now they can fix Grand Moff Tarkin in Rouge One.
ItsMeSanders
They guy they hired already did. He also did an amazing job of young Han Solo
myotherusernameismyotherusername
SuperGeniusPS
And Leia
GoodFUCKINGmorning
Definitely Leia
iputmymouthonit
Red One lol
Youhavinagiraffe
He should have just not been in the film. Krennic was a perfectly good villain on his own til he got sidelined for fan service
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
Tarkin looked like the BFG
GrimFinn
They should've just hired Charles Dance to play Tarkin.
RHodeidra
HE ... wasn't bad. Leia yes, Luke here, kinda. Tarkin was ok. Imo.
chaotropicagent
Or the Rock in the Scorpion King
AZRAELSBLADE
Woah let’s let that abortion lie
NotDan1138
No its already the perfect unintentional comedy character, you can't improve on ir
Br0doSwaggins
Done: https://youtu.be/KH1V6CHO1Jk
Atomic2
I thought the original was supposed to make him look older. Deep Fake just looks like Return of the Jedi Luke.
BishlamekGurpgork
Older isn't really the problem with it. Most of my issues were those dead eyes.
BishlamekGurpgork
I suspect that's why you can only clearly see his face in really low key scenes, because they're the only context where the lack of>
BishlamekGurpgork
Expression makes sense.
SleeperXib
I thought the series was set just a few years after Return.
Atomic2
5 years specifically. I mean thats enough time where someone can look noticeably older.
OphelianAshe
Eh. Five years after ROTJ means he's approximately 28. 19 in ANH, 22 in ESB, 23 in ROTJ, and 28 in Mandalorian.
HanFuckingSolo
Yeah but not for the age of Like in the change from ROJ to mando. Wouldn’t change much from 23 to 28
TheVampireDante
Yeah, but jedi tend to live longer/age slower. So a five year gap without something "massively" draining on them wouldn't mean much change.
Atomic2
Well we don't know what he was doing those 5 years. Point is, I didn't really question it when he looked a bit older. He looked old in TLJ.
ThatQuietlySmirking
Well, this is Mark Hamill in 1990, 7 years after Jedi. Not a huge difference: https://imgur.com/hG5QOKu
Atomic2
Really splitting hairs here, but he kinda looks more like the original and not the deepfake.
darkstarmc
Or he looks like neither.
WorkSnakes
Excellent detective work.
tocfanke4
I thought the original looked ok
illegalcheez
Just watch in 480p forehead.
ta7624
The deepfake looks a lot better in everything but the mouth. The original mouth moves how I expect it to move.
Inarticulated
First time I saw it, it looked perfect. But it might've been my teary eyes. All the other times, it looked super weird..
WorkSnakes
This
SrMordred
The lip movement is better in the original version. The eyes are better in the deepfake.
heyletsbefriends
youtube and tiktok are full of better faceswaps made by some random 13 year olds.
gsfortis
It wasn’t good. But, I think the sequence and the scene was so great we were all willing to forgive it.
gablestout
I think a lot of the criticism cam from KNOWING it couldn't have been real, so it made picking out flaws easier, but the scene forgave all
CommodusLeitdorf
It was kinda off but not enough to really be considered "bad". That being said his deepfake was REALLY good,
Noodlesocks
Llooked good enough for a cameo on a TV show budget but will really need an actual luke-a-like if they plan on doing more with the character
BishlamekGurpgork
It's the eyes. The eyes are dead, glassy, immobile.
GrumpyOldMillennial
The whole face looks like it was numbed for some reason. When he's talking, there is zero facial mobility.
BishlamekGurpgork
Well, by eyes I mean the face around the eyes, too. So much emoting comes from the change to the shaped of your eyes, the lines around them.
Link01
it was ok but next to the amazingness of the rest of the series' effects it was really bad.
TheSpaceCroissant
Me too, I honestly didn't mind him looking a bit weird
conflictmuffins
Legit, both look fine. I don't see much of a difference & I don't think it's worth the money to have a bit more eye glimmer & nose shading.
conflictmuffins
Then again, I think star wars has been milked to death & I will never watch the new ones or spin offs, so my opinion doesn't matter! :)
Cataleast
That is a gross oversimplification. But that's fine, there are SO many things involved in photorealism that we "can't put our finger on".
BishlamekGurpgork
Compared to his live performances in the original trilogy, his expressions were just dead. There's a reason why you can only see his face
BishlamekGurpgork
While he's super low key - it's the only time the dead eyes match the context.
BishlamekGurpgork
It's not bad, really. But it's not good.
Ultratoxic
The lip sync was the main improvement I saw. Also the edges of his face are crisper in the second one
AmbientSun
Eyes reflect ambient light too. Original eyes were dark and artificial, deepfake eyes have life in them
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
The lip sync, the expressionism - main things that looked 'off' in the original to me. It didn't quite 'look/feel' right, fhe rework 1
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
Feels/looks more natural/realistic i think.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
How do you have an original deepfake? Is that like an original copy?
BigStacksThrowItOnThemBigFatTatties
i am sure Lucasfilm can dig through their archives and find some excellent source material for the algorithm to chew on.
ThinkingOfOneTakesTooLong
More like the original rendering or if you want to think of it in more traditional artforms the original drawing of the person.
Mythmatic
Something Something NFT
wormfood
Original and copy are relative
Gilgamech
"This one time, when I needed 10 sheets of blank paper, I took my blank page & made 10 copies. This made sure I wasn't just stealing paper."
thisiscatman
"at band camp....."
Alfadorfox
I mean, that's still a pretty hefty price per page. With what copy shops charge nowadays you might as well just buy more paper than you need
Alfadorfox
and have extra the next time you need paper.
Gilgamech
This joke might be from before Xerox.
zekesonxx
Many schools include a certain amount of printing budget in tuition, which most students barely use. So, the paper is effectively free.
Alfadorfox
I wasn't considering college. That's a much better explanation. Thanks!
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
Did you pay copyright on the original though?
Gilgamech
Yes, when you bought it from the store. ;)
JahNoodles
So a store bought prostitute permits you to the copy rights to prostitution? /s
Gilgamech
This slope is covered in lube and chicken fat!
LetumComplexo
Machine learning algorithms aren’t one size fits all, there’s a lot of art to adjusting hyperparameters and how training is conducted.
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
My comment was about syntax not AI
LetumComplexo
Additionally the software pipeline for applying the output of the model into the footage is just as important as the algorithm itself.
Emrys12
By art do u mean randomly changing the sizes and parameters of the hidden layers until it performa better than the last?
LetumComplexo
I mean, pseudorandomly unless you’re suggesting doing it manually at random.
Emrys12
Unless they recently came up with a better technique its very random there's no art to tuning the network mostly trial and error
LetumComplexo
My guy, I’m half way through a PhD in machine learning. Sometimes it is very random, other times it really isn’t, but in either case there’s