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This coup of the US govt has been carefully planned and it's working without much resistance. I want to get out while I still can and bring my family with me.
Wife and I both born in Brooklyn and still live in NY. While that might prolong the suffering, it won't stop what seems to be inevitably coming. We only speak english and we'rewhite as can be. Where the hell can we go to best assimilate?
SorteSlynglen
Are you sure you would make it in the free world?
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Bonus: Skilled workers leaving also hurts Trump's economy.
laserfrog
Maybe not. Connecting dots liberally is seems the plan is for US Citizens to be uneducated and doing manual labor too exhausting to revolt and importing educated workers and underpaid coersed labor via h1b who cannot vote.
laserfrog
Italy has some dying towns where they heavily subsidise housing for anyone that will move there but no jobs in the towns iirc
treknor
but it is full in nazi mode
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Isn't there a lot of remote workers in Mexico, who live in the cheap houses?
jargonmon
I'll have to look into this. My wife is 100% Italian and speaks with some relatives.
laserfrog
I think remote work is the key if you can get any, but crashing in a big family home could be nice.
mindnumbingbraincandy
I was seeing tiktoks that Canada is accepting American refugees. Unsure if it's only specific Americans (based on race or trans status or anything, like due to high risks) or if theyre willing to accept all of us. Not gonna lie, I've been considering it.
dreammer243
Their politics seem to be going in the same direction unfortunately. As are a lot of Western countries.
laserfrog
Ironically, a large influx of refugees tends to be effective at swinging elections towoard isolationist (aka conservative) candidates.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
dreammer243
I hope it continues holding out
MrSpookywasagoodboy2
Apparently the Netherlands has a treaty with the US to take in refugees.
treknor
the government there is also full of nazis
MrsHowVeryDareYou
I believe you have to be in immediate danger to be considered a refugee, technically. But good to know.
BewareoftheLeopard
I mean my backyard is fine for now...but I don't like the trend.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
Give it a minute
laserfrog
usually too late by then
iggylights
Trump's disasterous tariffs and economic policies are going to put the US in default on our loans and into bankruptcy like all of his other companies. This will crash the world economy. Nowhere is safe.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
There's "poorhouse" safe and "getting shot" safe.
iggylights
If you haven't noticed, Musk is propping up extreme right wing factions all over the world. When the economy crashes, governments descend into fascism. I stand by my statement. It may get worse "here" before it does "over there" but we're all in the same big sinking ship.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Let me guess. Is your plan "do nothing"?
iggylights
I've voted Democrat in every election since 1988. I do my best to spread news that the mainstream media is ignoring. Do you suggest I 3D print myself a ghost gun and go full Luigi?
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
That's just a false dichotmy. There's all kinds of work you can do. Protests. Organsiations. boycotts. Face to face information spreading.
imgonnaralph
Expats still have to pay taxes to the USA....
iamgnat
Only if you intend to return. If you are seeking asylum you might as well renounce your citizenship and become stateless.
There are serious implications to doing that though. So it's something you have to research yourself and fully understand both in how the US will treat you and how your host country treats until you can meet their citizenship requirements.
laserfrog
bonus - also means not paying student loans.
reverenddoctor
You can exclude +$100k, if you meet certain requirements. There's ways to whittle the tax down for those abroad.
imgonnaralph
That's a big IF
reverenddoctor
What are you talking about? I hit almost all the wickets for qualifying, and I wasn't even trying. Looks pretty achievable if one is living abroad. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion
imgonnaralph
That's good for you, the expat I knew didn't qualify but that was a while ago and I don't know the details why they didn't.
killbillsexwife
Yes, absolutely, Australia is hiring. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia
laserfrog
What happened to all the migants bein dumped on a remote island?
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
Agreed, we could take many more migrants, but we lack the housing and house builders to keep rents and house prices affordable.
I'm all for taking more refugees, though tradespeople/skilled labourers are needed first!
https://theconversation.com/australia-is-welcoming-more-migrants-but-they-lack-the-skills-to-build-more-houses-222126
laserfrog
... then don't shunt the migrants to an island concentration camp to suffer?
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
Guantanamo is not Australian....
We shut those down. Less than a thousand people are in detention while awaiting application processes. Compared to the standard US averages of a quarter million a year and 30k per day.
Illegal immigrants (according to UN international law) are pretty rare despite media exposure.
laserfrog
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detention_facilities
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
No, you said ISLAND detention centre. You don't know enough to answer, so don't throw stones in your glass house. GUANTANAMO, not to mention the many black sites your Gestapo has all over the world.
We take many refugees, but there ARE international laws that are followed to do that. The 'illegal' entries are made by people smuggling gangs exploiting desperate people. THAT is why they are detained. Some are accepted, most are relocated to legal refuge.