My old boss in the hotel in worked at spoke Xhosa natively. He was the head of maintenance. He was a kinda crappy boss, and absolutely hated being “one of the bosses” but boy fuck was he good at fixing… literally anything. He spoke 7 languages pretty fluently (mostly regional African languages — but also English, French, Afrikaans, German…) but when he stripped a bolt he’d curse in Xhosa lol. This whole video is giving me flashbacks to that job.
those effortless clicks are mind-boggling to me. I can try to do them all day but incorporating it requires dexterity of the tongue I just do not have.
For those interested: q is pronounced as a hard click, you make it by putting your tongue on the roof of your mouth. X like in isiXhosa, is a soft and is performed using the side of your tongue and the cheek and pulling in air. Lastly, is c you put your tongue at the front of your mouth against your teeth and pull the air in making a softer click.
For words where there are multiple consonants, they don't join like in English instead try to make the sound of each consonant. If it's a click with a another consonant after try do the click with your mouth in the shape of the next letters sound.
Her biggest album in the U.S., the self-titled one from 1960, has a backing chorus that sounds dated and corny to my ears. I much prefer 1962's "The Many Voices Of Miriam Makeba" with a sparser jazz combo, including her future husband Hugh Masekela. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drZkP-X1N2U
First time I heard this song it was in a TikTok video of a number of very attractive women dancing. Now that I know what it's about, that feels super weird.
The song is Makeba, the artist is Jain. The song is about Miriam Makeba, an accomplished singer / songwriter from South Africa who was outspoken against Apartheid.
Agreed-I watched it for the first time a few months ago and I'm but sure what I was expecting, but it was dumber and more cringey than I expected. Still enjoyed it though, for what is was.
Probably, but I think it's the only movie I ever saw that was filmed on the African continent with black people in it without a leading role for white people. (As far as I can remember).
Trevor Noah is such an intelligent, funny guy. My favourite is when he was on QI. Stephen fry and Sandi Toksvig were quite enamoured with the clicks :) https://youtu.be/4z-lkVYwu00?si=7W7jjZksbeDkBUAn
It's true though, born and raised with Zulu and Xhosa speakers and not a click can be formed in the whites mouth. Much to my dismay and years of trying because they are cool languages.
Got nothing on the clicks of the Khoisan people though xD
I'm quite confident in my language learning skills, but I have serious doubts I'd be able to learn any language from the Khoisan language families. There are so many different clicks I'm not sure my ear would be able to pick them all up, never mind reproduce them
In...the whites...mouth...Quite the statement. Bit of an odd generalization too. Generalizing about race is interesting. Strange way to make your point. Huh. Wonder what's going on there.
My son's echolalia is a lot of clicking. He's nonverbal, but he can make a variety of different clicks. His speech therapist is very impressed with all the different clicks he can make. So the whole "white mouths can't make the sounds" just sounds like some eugenics type myth.
SubsyServy
Trevor Noah did a bit on QI and both Sandy Tosvig and Stephen were almost equally smitten. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z-lkVYwu00
mynamespaul
My old boss in the hotel in worked at spoke Xhosa natively. He was the head of maintenance. He was a kinda crappy boss, and absolutely hated being “one of the bosses” but boy fuck was he good at fixing… literally anything. He spoke 7 languages pretty fluently (mostly regional African languages — but also English, French, Afrikaans, German…) but when he stripped a bolt he’d curse in Xhosa lol. This whole video is giving me flashbacks to that job.
Bytencoder
She does not need a click track for sure.
AyatollahBahloni
I love the click languages.
NavaanSilverwolf
This has such a fun, chill vibe.
idrinkcheapbeer
You like sass? https://youtu.be/LJ25-U3jNWM
RoolWithIt
Is there are full video? Would to hear her sing the full song
Heelcat70
My grandfather sounded a little like that after he got cheap dentures.
keyserv
This woman gave up her home for activism.
OrgsDevors
Vids that end too soon!
CrepuscularCryomancer
canadianreserve
But can she say "Saskatoon Saskatchewan"? Lol. She seems great though.
AnonOmis1000
I mean, she's right
Eomund521
The song was honestly beautiful too
OrgsDevors
I agree, beautiful!
rhuala
can I get the song without all the clicking though - foreigners probably
parabolic000
those effortless clicks are mind-boggling to me. I can try to do them all day but incorporating it requires dexterity of the tongue I just do not have.
inconspicuous99
For those interested: q is pronounced as a hard click, you make it by putting your tongue on the roof of your mouth. X like in isiXhosa, is a soft and is performed using the side of your tongue and the cheek and pulling in air. Lastly, is c you put your tongue at the front of your mouth against your teeth and pull the air in making a softer click.
inconspicuous99
For words where there are multiple consonants, they don't join like in English instead try to make the sound of each consonant. If it's a click with a another consonant after try do the click with your mouth in the shape of the next letters sound.
KlatuuVeratuNnnnndamnit
Instructions unclear i just pulled a muscle on my back leg..
JeremyGabbard
I know that answer is "practice", but it seems impossible to have a syllable where the air is going the other way!
orp0piru
q is a click
X is the squirrel calling sound
c is the disappointed sound
SedatedSl0th
Holy shit this is so right
firlefranz
Did someone here just say „X“?
Talori
Thank you, I needed this in addition to the other explanation lol
evolution4407
Miriam Makeba.
steelundecided
Grew up listening to Harry Belafonte and Miriam Makeba in the 70's. Great music.
OozyRatInASanitaryZoo
Her biggest album in the U.S., the self-titled one from 1960, has a backing chorus that sounds dated and corny to my ears. I much prefer 1962's "The Many Voices Of Miriam Makeba" with a sparser jazz combo, including her future husband Hugh Masekela.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drZkP-X1N2U
TrustMeImADog
My favourite track is Quit It, released in 1974. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAYY8cY_bhs
OozyRatInASanitaryZoo
And today I learned that after her short marriage to Masekela, she married Stokely Carmichael of the Black Panther Party.
YELLOWnotYELLOW
I love Pata Pata so much https://youtu.be/K2a6waS25TU?si=HNrYOw0uvNbjMNA_
GravyEducation
unpunnyfuns
Jain has some pretty cool songs
Beefkins
First time I heard this song it was in a TikTok video of a number of very attractive women dancing. Now that I know what it's about, that feels super weird.
firlefranz
This one? /gallery/6sCnqFt/comment/2423055471
GravyEducation
Yeah that's the way to do it.... she was a feminist too so I guess if they felt empowered then it works I guess
firlefranz
RationalViking
Smiling bikini girls have incredible power over me. They could be handing out cyanide pills and id still come over for a sample 🤣
JeanClaudeVanDom
The music video for this song is epic
umbula
What's this song?
umbula
Makeba?
thorinc
The song is Makeba, the artist is Jain. The song is about Miriam Makeba, an accomplished singer / songwriter from South Africa who was outspoken against Apartheid.
kahooki
TIL - and am happy about that.
cyanideremark
The gods must be crazy
blaid0
Right neighbourhood, wrong people. That was the Xhoi San. The Xhosa are a Bantu tribe, much later arrival.
cyanideremark
Apart from a good dose of ol' slapstick humour - the movie does feel pretty exploitative 50 or so years later.
lujotu
Agreed-I watched it for the first time a few months ago and I'm but sure what I was expecting, but it was dumber and more cringey than I expected. Still enjoyed it though, for what is was.
Hemelsblauw
Probably, but I think it's the only movie I ever saw that was filmed on the African continent with black people in it without a leading role for white people. (As far as I can remember).
CrowCaller
Yeah, and apparently the star was paid next to nothing, too.
Omnimorph2112
Xhosa is one of the coolest languages.
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
I learned about our reading Trevor Noah’s book. And I agree.
Omnimorph2112
Trevor Noah is such an intelligent, funny guy. My favourite is when he was on QI. Stephen fry and Sandi Toksvig were quite enamoured with the clicks :) https://youtu.be/4z-lkVYwu00?si=7W7jjZksbeDkBUAn
TheDildoOfConsequences
I think I'm seduced by Stephen Fry being seduced by Trevor Noah.
jsims281
His reading of it for the audiobook version was great.
TheCatThatWatchesAsYouRubOneOut
It's true though, born and raised with Zulu and Xhosa speakers and not a click can be formed in the whites mouth. Much to my dismay and years of trying because they are cool languages.
Got nothing on the clicks of the Khoisan people though xD
lujotu
I'm quite confident in my language learning skills, but I have serious doubts I'd be able to learn any language from the Khoisan language families. There are so many different clicks I'm not sure my ear would be able to pick them all up, never mind reproduce them
ChaosInherent
In...the whites...mouth...Quite the statement. Bit of an odd generalization too. Generalizing about race is interesting. Strange way to make your point. Huh. Wonder what's going on there.
Hankhound
Awuqondi, umlungu. https://youtu.be/vOOCQiKlZ8w?si=SsS4lxJACJYMxQoe
sigmatis
Whilst Xhosa has 4 clicks, Khoisan has 7
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
I…. wholeheartedly disagree. I am white and I can say many things in the Xhosa language, including the clicks.
Hankhound
Eeeeesh! https://youtu.be/vOOCQiKlZ8w?si=SsS4lxJACJYMxQoe
hairbearbunch66
My son's echolalia is a lot of clicking. He's nonverbal, but he can make a variety of different clicks. His speech therapist is very impressed with all the different clicks he can make. So the whole "white mouths can't make the sounds" just sounds like some eugenics type myth.
ChaosInherent
Generalized statements about race seem to point to something inherent about the one making them and it's not usually anything good
ThatOneGuyThatLikesToEatHisBreadWithJamAndCheese
Took me quite a while to learn, but then it clicked.
OrgsDevors
Let’s hear it!!
Hankhound
https://youtu.be/vOOCQiKlZ8w?si=SsS4lxJACJYMxQoe