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I gotta share this because, as a white woman, I was absolutely appalled by this story. From https://www.metrotimes.com/table-and-bar/archives/2018/10/18/detroit-judge-tosses-gardening-while-black-case-brought-by-three-white-women
"Throughout 2017 and early 2018, three white women called police dozens of times, making increasingly serious allegations against Marc Peeples, a black man.
Peeples was building a community garden on the vacant Hunt Playground on Colton Street adjacent to the State Fairgrounds. One of the women, Deborah Nash, lives across the street from the park, while the others live nearby.
Peeples claimed the women didn't like his project, so they began calling the police, fabricating serious charges when police wouldn't come out for illegal gardening allegations. Those culminated with charges that Peeples was a pedophile, was in the park threatening Nash with a gun, and participated in a drive-by shooting.
Ultimately a judge determined that the women filed false police reports, initiated all contact with Peeples, and "engaged in a very targeted and constant harassment of the young man" that appeared to be racially motivated. The judge concluded "I found their testimony to be offensive. They should be sitting at the defendant's table for stalking and harassment charges, not Mr. Peeples. This is disgusting and a waste of the court's time and resources,"
It's insane that these women weren't charged with stalking and filing false police reports. Meanwhile, this poor man has to deal with the court fees and the destruction of his reputation. I gave to his GoFundMe page which can be found here https://www.gofundme.com/gardeningwhileblack
KohteSangi
Why weren’t the women charged?
zamuy12479
gee, i wonder why horrid racists seem so emboldened lately.
random34567
String em up!
Kitastrophe
It's possible it's not because he's black. Maybe they are busybody bitches who just fucking hate on anyone doing anything they dislike
sharkwhistle29
I bet this is in s neighborhood that is being gentrified!
gkcaputo24
Likely the kind of man who would feed these snakes if they needed to eat
Dave830108
It saddens me that not one word of this surprises me.
disinfectantrum
Does anything really?
jamineal
Maybe the Purge wouldn't be the WORST thing for America.
PUNKem733
Trump has emboldened racists. Especially middle aged, chubby white ladies.
VetchLurker
As an Atheist, this is shocking. (is that how this works?)
buzzl1ght
15 k over budget on the go fund me campaign,, hopefully he can use that to sue them in return.
habino
That sucks and all but how did it end in a go fund me?
tanebou
*gardening while black*
BlueCow7890
You should be appalled regardless of your race or gender.
thebirdsnake3916
Seems that justice is being served for once bit in an incomplete way. At least we are growing as a culture.
MurtBaclinBFI
Make Racism Great Again
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TheProfessionalOne
Why not just tell the story instead of adding your race at the beginning? It’s nonsensical and non value added to the conversation.
asnjas81
exactly. it almost like the first and last sentence of this post says it all. race and gofundme.
gracefalls
I thought so too at first.
njorunn
My first thought too... Not sure why she feels she has to tell everyone the colour of her skin.
camstar2
That go fund me did pretty well.
Mediathug
Prosecutor should charge those cunts.
MikeyTheMighty
gotta comment because, as a non-white non-woman, I was absolutely appalled by this story
JasonAbbadon
As a white non-woman, I was appalled at this story.
JapAnus
As a purple demigendered egg, I was appalled at this story.
TheRuckestRick
He was just trying to contribute to the peeples
watthefrak
I hope he gets enough GoFundMe money to get an ak-74 and a '64 impala so he do a real drive by on these super cunts.
JapAnus
Good fucking luck trying to import (read: smuggle) one here
AntiCircleJerker
As an imgurian, why everyone gotta start with, "As a __________," in stuff. Is it an attempt to add credibility to what they're saying?
dumbinsults
In this case, to show that not all white women are shit, just those three.
TokenAsshole
because they can't mention something without also making themselves a part of it, it's like the women who show a picture of something but 1/
TokenAsshole
make sure they are the actual focus of the image, even at the cost of obscuring what they might actually be trying to share
JapAnus
"Thoughts and prayers"
remysgal
Its a #notall.. signifier
mikeatike
Why would you stop someone from making a garden? Do the white trash feel threatened by it?
ramarins
In the US, if there's a shred of black people around a neighborhood, it devalues the property value. (1/2)
ramarins
The one living right across the street from him may have wanted to sell her house soon. Sad, stupid and crazy, but true.
VelvetWarhol
Sandyundertones
What is this from?
MtHoot
Spartacus
StankyPankySammich
Spartacus
BoggledMind
The homoerotic show Spartacus
Deevanx
Just plain erotic show Spartacus*
MrTay
After reading the article he has grounds to sue them and press charges. He also should sue the city. Prosecutors are the cancer of 1:
TokenAsshole
Yes, this is how it should be handled. The way people jump to crowdsourcing to solve problems is the real fucking cancer, honestly.
kevinallover
Last Week Tonight had an excellent segment on prosecutors
MrTay
Our justice system that’s infected everything. They do everything in their power to convict with zero care if they are correct. 2
MrTay
Ultimately they shield bad policing and allow people like the New York detective that falsely imprisoned 100s to thrive then we pay. 3
Ensano
@op why are you always looking at the world "as a white woman". Can't you just be a person. Asa left handed person I see a lot of problems
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
If left handed people went out to specifically start harassing right handed people it's not unreasonable to feel a bit embarrassed. for 1/2
automaticallymoderated
Wait... sharing a dominant hand with a cunt is a reason for shame now? I’m doing this all wrong...
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
Not saying it's reason for shame... but like it's *normal* or at least completely reasonable to be offput by that. the analogy still 1/2
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
isn't great because racism runs deep and has a history, but trying to stick w/ parent commenter's analogy. 2/2
JapAnus
What the fuck did I do that I have to apologize for that?
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
never said anyone had to apologize for anything. sounds like people are getting defensive instead of fully reading my post.
woopwooppulloverdatasstoofat
a while now we've been seeing white people calling the cops against black people for doing literally nothing which is pretty appalling 2/2
Ensano
With the lens your looking though. As a blue eyed person I think by putting on this lens to see the world through your just gonna find ways
Ensano
*things that are constantly attacking your identity if it's the only thing you see yourself as. I'm just speaking as a ten fingered person
VetchLurker
As a right-handed, red-haired person, I agree with you.
Ensano
@op ask yourself. Why did you even mention that in your post? How was it even close to relevant? Do you really think anyone even cares
Ensano
About your identity "as a white woman"?
Kassien
First instinct is that while the story is true, this post is a scam on the GoFundMe.
Kassien
https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/115015913668-How-to-Determine-if-a-GoFundMe-is-Safe-to-Donate-To
TokenAsshole
I mean, most gofundme's are scams, because it's a play on emotions. Even if a story is true, and horrible, seeking money is disingenuous. 1/
berserkerteacup
You're not using disingenuous correctly.
TokenAsshole
Yes, I am.
berserkerteacup
No, you aren't. It means insincere, as in feigning ignorance. If you mean to say he's scamming, that's different.
TokenAsshole
It means a lot of things. I'm not going to debate my usage with you.
TokenAsshole
This is what a civil lawsuit is for.
McFluffySundae
Where would he get the money to hire a lawyer? If people wanna give their money that's their choice.
Marick2Die
I mean, there are pictures and updates of the garden on the GoFundMe and the guy used his name to start the campaign. Seems legit to me.
Kassien
How do they verify this person is who he says he is?
TwoBitGreaser
Release their names and expose them to the sort of mob justice they seemingly endorse.
GregRobertson
They will all be named in the judgment file, which should be public on the web.
wibblywobblytimeywimey
Deborah Nash, Jennifer Morris, and Martha Callahan.
detour512
Their names are on the gofundme...
Beckykun
Deborah Nash, Jennifer Morris and Martha Callahan. It's in the gofundme link.
pareidoliaperson
MARTHA!!! Jokes aside, I hope the gofundme is partially for filing a report on these three witches.
OrangeFlavours
No, it isn't.
cravenmoorhead
They're also listed in the gofundme page.
HiMyNameIsReggie
And then we are just as bad as them. Theres no such thing as mob justice.
NairouTryyshokk
Mob justice is not real justice. Really he should charge them in turn.
CharlesNelsonReilly
The GoFundMe states they are going to use the funds for improving the garden and bringing a defamation case against the women.
wwwscottiestissue42
Don't know about that one. It's not like before where pitchforks and what not but i think reddit and public opinions- serious trouble
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Mob justice rarely, if ever, stops at justice. It's a dick move that can rarely be employed ethically.
equityforpunks
So in USA the loser does not need to pay winner's court expenses? Making losers pay is a good way to ensure people only do truthful cases
chefsoda
Keep in mind this was a criminal case. Loser pays sometimes applies, but only in civil cases, for very good reason!
bobziIIa
Everything is designed to help the wealthy in the US. How hasn’t everybody caught on to this?
sykoticflaw
Yeah that's by design, to discourage people from taking anything to court.
Ionlycookburritos
It's all part of the game. That's how big corporations can harass individuals in court and eventually win. They run out of money.
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
Wasn't this case criminal not tort?
Vyor1
sometimes the judge can make em do it, but they usually don't sadly.
mikeatike
Nope, that is why litigation is an easy way to bankrupt someone.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Sadly that's how EA put Origin out of business the bought their company...
JasonAbbadon
And why many civil suits against companies are settled instead of fought.
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Everyone’s saying no, but anti SLAAP laws exist in every state for this purpose, as any lawyer with half a brain knows. This 100% qualifies.
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Plus, its generally not applied. What happens when somebody hires expensive lawyers to win an unjust case, then dumps the fees on the loser?
Quasipickle
This wasn't a civil case, it was criminal. Paying the winner is often the case if asked for in civil cases. 1/
Quasipickle
My guess is this isn't the end of the story and a civil suit will be forthcoming.
Distrill
Holy Fuck, i didnt know this is a thing in other countrys. We need this yesterday.
lessgasmoreammo
In this case the loser would be the government.
Canofminus
And the falsely accused
amglasgow
Since this was a criminal case, the loser was the government, not the women who made the complaints.
alcaray
In civil cases that is possible.
otiumCatulli
a court doesnt just determine the "truth" but the legal judgement. Genuinely both sides can have good cases, but only a judge can decide.
FiveShiftOne
This wasn't a civil case, though. Sounds like these were criminal charges.
McFluffySundae
He'd have to counter sue in civil court for damages
1Plebian
It's also inhibits cases from being pursued that maybe should because that risk cuts boths ways. Just because you're right doesn't mean
1Plebian
The court is capable of determining that to be true. So you would punish people who don't win yet technically were wronged.
Druidichawk19
I was just thinking about this. Namely the OJ Simpson case.
DocWino
Are you familiar with the term “crap shoot” nothing is for sure except death and taxe
PeppermintButler
Yes, unfortunately. You can try to counter-sue someone in civil court or, possibly, press criminal charges for harassment.
TheFrenchGirl
Don't know for other European countries, but in France, if you make false accusation you are automatically prosecuted, and fined (or jailed)
wearywanderer
What if you were actually right and sued, but lost the case? Then are you doubly screwed by both the defendant and the court?
TheFrenchGirl
If you were actually right, it was not false accusation not forgery, don't you think?
wearywanderer
(1//2) My point is the courts don't always get it right. Innocent people are locked up and the guilty go free in many cases. Imagine a
mikeatike
But they rarely rule in favor, and good luck actually getting the money. Instead you usually just spend even more, so most don't try.
antivaxtumblrvegan
So far, the $5k GoFundMe has raised over $20k. Here's hoping any spare money is spent counter-suing to restore his reputation.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
Justice and opportunity in America depend on how much money you have. Country of freedom my ass.
luckycatnutcracker
Everyone is free enough to fuck over everyone else. So they do.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
But they aren't. You are much more free to fuck over people you have more money than. At least legally.
mikeatike
Only if you have money.