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Feb 15, 2018 9:53 PM
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Undrave
This is why you need sex ed classes -_-
MacClay
NASA wasn't sure if 100 tampons was enough for a week long mission.
calgar
I mean nothing should be free, someone's got to pay somehow that's just how it works.
ChrisHemsworthsglabella
bladewing2016
As a dude, I'm ashamed by his knowledge but not surprised at the comment
johnnypickles
i dont think it's a grasp of biology, but a lack of teaching in health class
Forestwarrior
If tampons were free, toilet paper should also be free.
cyno01
Seems like Ryan Williams has enough of a grasp on female anatomy to run for office as a republican.
clinchuplegolas
In the words of Rachel Green “no uterus no opinion”
deskspud
Ryan.....thanks so much for being an idiot
FrackingBleepBloop
I am ok with chipping in for peoples bladder problems as well. Or eye problems, dental problems, cancer problems.
FrackingBleepBloop
Universal healthcare would solve a lot of issues.
DiscoPhysicist
I demand free Manpons! You know, those pads you put in your undies to protect against farts that don't quite turn out to be all gas.
areibold
Nothing is free.
paganfears
Even if they just removed absurd taxes from them. They’re still considered a “luxury” item in Australia and attract higher taxes and costs
perey
More precisely: they aren't included in the list of "essential" items that are exempt from the 10% Goods and Services Tax.
paganfears
The product is still sold at an increased shelf value because it’s a product that women are dependent on
heartlessninja6
The people who believe this make laws.
ConfessionsOfDefektivHumanry
As someone with bladder control issues due to disability, fuck this guy to the extreme, depends should be free too, that shit is expensive.
ConfessionsOfDefektivHumanry
And uncovered by insurance of any kind.
officialdownvotefairy
See I don't know if these tweets are purposefully stupid or... am I going to have to get these people hysterectomies/vasectomies?
theflyingnun
Switch to the menstural cup. I haven't bought lady products in over a year and it's more eco friendly.
Kiore
They're so much better than tampons or pads though they don't work well for everyone unfortunately. :(
Loser37
People who don’t think tampons should be available for free in public restrooms should remind me the last time they paid for toilet paper
Loser37
in a restaurant, department store, etc.
Arget
I mean, I don't know about FREE. But definetively WAY cheaper.
Mastertothewakingworld
sparklefox09
ollie185
Well this is so stupid I don't get it why aren't tampons free but condoms are I'm a guy btw I mean you can choose not to have sex but 1/2
ollie185
You can't choose not to have you're period. 2/2
peachesforme
there are still an amount of people who believe girls are in full control of their period and that yes they do choose to have it
Oldmemedigger
Where do you live where you can go to a shop and buy free condoms... and if you say university theres some that all ready do..
ollie185
The uk
LastStryker
Condoms aren't free.
Flutterfinn
Colleges, hospitals, family planning centers, and health departments pass condoms out for free.
AppleFoster
A great deal of the western world has places where you can obtain free condoms and birth control.
Samoht
I'm a single male, and I think they should be free. It's something out of your control, so it should be covered.
SomeDetroitGuy
What other things should be free? Clothing? Toilet Paper? Food? Water?
Samoht
Basic clothing, sure, TP sure, basic food and water absolutely. Not designer clothes and tbone, but something to survive yes.
SomeDetroitGuy
At that point, honestly just a basic guaranteed base income would make more sense. Give everyone enough that they're just above the poverty
HappyLookouuut
I’m a female, but in all fairness, if tampons should be free, then water (in private dwellings), basic medical care, & food should be too.
Cosmicracoon
Water and medical care SHOULD be free
lesbehonestyea
Water and medical care are in some countries. Not food though
lesbehonestyea
*are free
shutyourpieholedouche
I live in NZ and all that stuff is free here but tampons are still not taxed as an essential hygine item likw toilet paper.
LiterallyYourMom
If you think it's not a necessity, have women go without for a month while wearing skirts, and only hire male cleanup staff.
newimgurscreenname
OMG, mom, stop being so gross. You're embarrassing me.
VirtualChessLessons
Usually they are taxed the same as toilet paper, but I don't see everyone threatening to leave poop everywhere.
LiterallyYourMom
If only men had to buy toilet paper, I guarantee you they would.
VirtualChessLessons
TIL: Men don't buy toilet paper? lol
LiterallyYourMom
No, "only" meaning "just". Comprehension is fundamental.
VirtualChessLessons
Touche, I overlooked that word in your comment. But men are usually still paying tax on toilet paper and I've never seen a man or anyone (1)
CitizenDickbag
This attitude is legitimately a huge problem in women prisons. The refusal to provide tampons is appalling.
reddocs
I' bleed over EVERYTHING
Flyndaran
Sadly, that's the least appalling of the many many many appalling aspects of the American prison system.
eggmuffin
What now? You can't deny prison inmates access to basic hygiene supplies. There are international laws against that. Where do you live??
Faeriesarepunkashell
U.S of A baby. It's been a thing here at least. thankfully it's starting to change
MistressLyda
I would assume USA. https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/29/health/federal-prisons-free-tampons-pads/index.html check the date on that one.
PersonalDildo
The refusal to abide the law is also appalling
CitizenDickbag
You're a shit person you know.
Flyndaran
Anyone caught smoking marijuana is subhuman and needs to be tortured and given shit medical care. I agree with assholes like you. /S
PersonalDildo
Decriminalized in my area ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kavrae
That does not change the argument. This is just a variation of "not my problem"
littlefathen
The prices should be much more affordable if not free. Pads and tampons are a necessity not a luxury.
LittleLatinBoyInDrag
With that logic food, toilet paper, bandaids, diapers and other necessities should be free. Free? No. Cheaper? Yes.
cyno01
I thought pads and tampons were a tool of the patriarchy? #freebleeding
littlefathen
Like how everyone skips past the part where I put much more affordable first. Free would be nice is all I am saying. More affordable (1/2)
littlefathen
Birth control while we're on the subject too. (2/2)
Misfire5150
Ah yes, free necessities that everyone the world over gets like free TP, food, housing, child care. Gotta love all those free things. 1/2
Misfire5150
Affordable and reasonably taxed, absolutely. Free, fuck outta here with that insanity. 2/2
jrbr549
Not free but why is there a sales tax? That makes no sense to me.
Misfire5150
Depends on where you are from. In my state here in the US we pay sales tax on literally everything I can think of.
nafun
Yeah... here we pay it on all but food, except for so called "taxable food" like soda.
jrbr549
WI is weird. If I buy a dish of ice cream (custard, actually) it's taxed. If I get a pint it's tax free because it's a bulk item. Crazy.
valen00
The call for them to be free is minuscule, the call for them not to be classed as a luxury item is more mainstream
littlefathen
I know
Loser37
I think they should be provided free in schools, universities, etc. You don’t bring your own toilet paper to school, why bring tampons?
valen00
interesting idea that. Though they are more expensive and school kids seem to have a habit of doing stupid shit. Also the variety is so vast
valen00
that stocking the right one could be a challenge whereas TP is fairly universal.
Loser37
There’s more leeway with pads. Getting the wrong size tampon can be painful and possible dangerous, but supplying a standard medium-
infey
Although, now that he mentions it, I kinda feel like we could throw a tax break at people who have health related bladder problems.
Bigcurly2000
Don't throw it too hard though...weak bladders, y'know?
jackthesellout
Second that, an uncontrolled bladder's gonna be everyone's problem pretty fast
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randomsocial
It’s just $1000 for an office visit. Nbd
AppleFoster
I believe he meant incontinence supplies. Just in case that wasn't obvious.
infey
Glad to know the diapers aren’t taxed.
Alfadorfox
Or just, y'know, have actual full health care like every civilized nation does.
Comet260
And have healthcare execs make less money?! NEVER!! /s
cyno01
We didnt fight the cold war for 50 years to let that happen. Better dead of easily treatable maladies than Red!
Alfadorfox
We're already red, and white, and blue.
swedishish
Pretty sure I heard a tale of a congressman who said something like this to a female staffer.
DropDeadFread
This^^
Frogapus
He thought they were masturbatory aids. https://imgur.com/De0rxY2.png
swedishish
This is what I had read. Thanks for linking it here.
Frogapus
Happy to oblige!
UrKungFuNoGood
yeah it doesn't take a healthy amount of confirmation bias to believe that story. no it's all true for sure. no doubts.
ThePresidentOfStrayaOFFICIAL
Not sure why you’re being downvoted, you’d have to be as idiotic as the conservative bogeyman in this story to swallow it.
IrgendSoEinTyp
Nobody here said he believed it unconditionally but it's worrying enough that you even have to think about whether or not this is true
MrWarmMilk
Part of me wants to say this is a B.S. story, part of me believe there's people dumb/uninformed enough to believe this.
IceWeaselX
The weirdest part to me is where she says that she, as a 20 year old woman, didn't know what a dildo was.
haidere36
"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that down." - A former congressman, on rape victims getting pregnant. 1/2
AppleFoster
Yeah that's why I don't understand all the "this never happened" responses at these kinds of stories. I'm sure some didn't, but after 1/2
AppleFoster
learning that my neighbor believed that cats were just female dogs, I no longer have any surprises left in life for me. 2/2
haidere36
Not only can people be that stupid, some of them are very publicly and unapologetically that stupid. Stupider, even. 2/2
peachesforme
ahh todd akin that piece of work. quoting nazi studies while ignoring the overall data
TheLavabenderGuy
"Anything that concerns a woman's private parts is for her sexual pleasure and a life of debauchery !" is how I interpret these statements.
MrWarmMilk
I don't understand how people can think like that.
EmeraldLight
Religion
Purpl3y3s
I have never seen complainiants ask for FREE tampons. Just for them to be taxed the same as things like tp and nappies not as a luxury good
banthis
luxury tax is 5%, tax on tp is 20%
Purpl3y3s
Where im from tax on tp is 0 and tax on tampons is 10%
IAmBoredAtWork
How much cost a pack of tampons in US with tax and all?
mrredbuttons
Yeah pa doesn't tax them
Volcanuz
Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis. Should never have been considered a luxury item ever. So fucking stupid, same with stuff like condoms.
ME2G
IKEA has them for free in their bathrooms.
avitalpilpel
I'm pretty sure "luxury item" legally simply means "not exempt from sales tax", which includes 99% of products.
TheRicM
complainianianianianiants
mingotheflamingo
they should be taxed like medical supplies, it makes the most sense.
humptysorthopedic
Sales tax is generally a STUPID. Tax "bads" u want less. Most sales are "goods". Progressive income tax = Adam Smith, not just communism.
Xenarion
Wait, they are taxed as luxury good in the us? WTF?
YourLocalImgurZookeeper
I think this all stems from providing pads/tampons to female inmates in the US, as they cannot afford to buy them from commissary.
fairybug
Okay, that's totally fair.
radiradi
Feminine hygiene products are also the number one requested item by homeless women
TheyCallMeTheHiphopopotamusIgotFlowsThatGlowLikePhosphorous
Are they taxed as a luxury good or are they taxed the same as everything else?
Baurge
They aren't charged any more than items like TP (it is taxed in most states unlike misinfo). Sales tax is a type of luxury tax.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
It depends on where you live. In some places sales tax is determined by product category, for example luxury items may be taxed more than
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
medical supplies. The argument is that in some places with that system tampons are taxed at the luxury rate despite being necessities
Usernamerarelyrelevant
I've heard many "complainiants" ask for free tampons. Never heard anyone say they're taxed as a luxury good
Usernamerarelyrelevant
Not trying to argue the luxury goods tax, just looking to be informed
howulikemeow
I think OP is reffering to the cost of sanitary products for female inmates in the US.
Rosie2003
Then he's still wrong, since that's not what tampons are for.
shedooooooooo
Absolutely not. In most countries they are considered a luxury to the public. Including the UK. Don’t spread your made up opinions.
Purpl3y3s
Oh! Thanx for clarification. I thought it was a kind of strawman thing. Turn the luxury tax agrument into 'sjw bulshit' asking for freebies
Purpl3y3s
The US prision system is so fucked if free acess to mandatory disposable hygiene items needs to be argued over. Do they charge for meds too?
ThatguysGirl
Not that I think they should be charged but it is not impossible to use tp during "that time". Tampons are certainly more comfortable though
lattaloo
If you read the article about that prison, they restricted the toilet paper.
LooseSeall
That’s terrible for your body though. Can cause tears on the labia and skin irritations. Even pads aren’t great but TP is awful.
toastedspikes
Its also possible to wipe your ass with newspaper but tp is more comfortable.
causality
God I'm tired of this myth. For tax, luxury items are anything that isn't exempt from sales tax. Tampons are not taxed higher.
JanaJustinsdottir
How is it a myth? Only recently where the luxury taxes dropped on them where I live. It s almost like not everyone lives where you do
shedooooooooo
Tampons are absolutely taxed higher in most countries. They’re considered a luxury good. Whereas toilet paper isn’t. If I had to choose 1/2
shedooooooooo
Btwn toilet paper and tampons, I’d pick the tampons. I can hold my pee til I find something. But not obvious red blood I can’t control 2/2
blowingraspberries
In Australia they certainly are taxed higher. Maybe not where you are, but here, we pay GST which is waived for other 'essential' items.
causality
You also pay GST on toilet paper.
looseygoosy
Viagra is exempt from sales tax.
causality
Like every single other prescription drug, you hooting reactionary moron.
causality
Know what else is exempt from sales tax? Birth control pills. Because they're a fucking prescription.
causality
Should they be exempt? Maybe, but they are absolutely not subject to any "highfalutin' tax"
Purpl3y3s
Thats what were saying. They should be classified as a basic need theres no sales tax on dipers or tp why pads & tampons
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IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
https://www.snopes.com/tampon-tax/
SomethingsShadow
There are separate luxury item taxes though. In CT jewelry, fur, and clothes over $5k and cars over $50k have about another 1-1.5% of tax
dannakala
Yeah that's the issue. People conflate the true luxury tax with the "non-essential" sales tax. In CA, non-essential includes many things>
dannakala
That people agree are essential, like tampons and soap and clothes.
Forere
Fun fact, tampons are taxed as low as they can possibly tax them. It's like people just want to be outraged instead of correcting things
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
https://www.snopes.com/tampon-tax/
causality
I think they deserve an exemption as much as any other necessity, but this is not a case of the patriarchy trying to steal money from women.
Forere
They have an exemption greater than other necessities. That's the point I'm trying to make.
causality
In the US they're taxed as a normal product.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
No it’s a case of a woman’s health and hygiene essentials not being categorized as important as those that apply to men
causality
In fact, I can't find a single state that exempts toilet paper but still taxes tampons.
causality
What sales tax exempt products do only men use?
Faeriesarepunkashell
maybe free at school. If a university can offer free condoms they should offer free feminine supplies. students are broke, doesn't mean 1/2
Faeriesarepunkashell
They should have to be unsanitary. Same f=goes for prison but that's changing now thank god
GOAE
But you'd just be paying for it in tuition instead, the difference being tuition is up front and has overhead =/
SmoothberryBluethie
It's free at my school in the Women's Centre and Health and Councelling Centre. :)
sanasalim
The university I go to has a free tampon/pad machine in every female washroom. They are of lower quality obviously but they work just fine.
tazlah
Same here. Schools/uni’s with no free pads/tampons is crazy to me. Where you all living?
WKBetafiggit
I'm guessing they're not meant to be your main supply, but rather the emergency go to.
antman2988
That's insane that they even taxed them as a luxury good in the first place. I'm not even a woman but I'm pretty sure women don't
dannakala
A lot of the "luxury tax" is hype. In CA, "essentials" are tax free, but it's a very narrow definition. Soap, clothes, and tampons are >
dannakala
all charged equal sales tax by the tax code. Very specific things like meds or fresh groceries are tax free.
AppleFoster
Really? I can't think of anything better than bleeding for several days, having cramps, being dizzy, and hating myself.
antman2988
Think it's luxurious to have a period.
SomeDetroitGuy
Where do they tax then differently from toilet paper or diapers?
DenverCoderIX
10% tax in Spain, the same as caviar.
Bixbyit
19% in Germany, here is a Map (from 2016) that shows where tampons are luxury: https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.welt.de/amp/politik/ausland/
ArdentSlacker
US and IIRC, the UK.
SomeDetroitGuy
Either Michigan isn't part of the US anymore or you're wrong. Maybe we finally gave up and became Canadian.
IAmBoredAtWork
How much cost a pack of tampons in US with tax and all?
randomsocial
About $6 dollars. 1.5 boxes a month. $108 per year. Sales tax on $108 in MN would be about $8.
randomsocial
Multiply by 35 years, (not adjusted for inflation) is $3780. Around $265 in sales tax.
byohzzrd
Parts of the world. Parts that just maybe, maybe aren't the US.
MeridaIsMySpiritAnimal
and ironically, also parts of the world than are the US
SomeDetroitGuy
There is literally nowhere in the US where they tax tampons but do not tax toilet paper or diapers.
byohzzrd
They've been sales taxed everywhere I've bought them. Are there localities that tax them at a different rate?
MeridaIsMySpiritAnimal
Yah apparently some places tax "essential" items lower or not at all. Tampons are considered a "luxury" item so is in a different category
B99Reactions
Imagination land
tigerlilytoph
Maybe go talk to a woman now and then. For educational purposes, but also y’know, human interaction...
B99Reactions
Maybe you should follow your own advice
tigerlilytoph
SomeDetroitGuy
Hi, woman! Where do they tax tampons but not toilet paper or diapers?
tigerlilytoph
Check out the other comments that point out (rightly) that tampons are taxed at a higher rate as “luxury items” unlike toilet paper.
NowuseamoredifferentS
Until recently, Canada taxed them as a luxury. Now they arent
ForgotMyOtherAcct
The US for one
SomeDetroitGuy
Wait - did we get annexed by Canada? Because this part of the US, that's not the case.
SomeDetroitGuy
There is literally nowhere in the US that taxes tampons but does not tax toilet paper or diapers.
allegedlynerdy
Not everywhere. In fact, not the majority of places. Most places they get the same flat tax as everything besides fresh food gets.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Only 5 states with sales tax don’t overtax tampons. Essentials in every state are not taxed.
SomeDetroitGuy
So now toilet paper and diapers aren't essentials? Or over the counter medicine? Because they certainly tax those in my state.
ThatguysGirl
What counts as essential? Every receipt I can think of has shown the same sales tax for all items.
Joemammayomamma
There are only 5 states in the US that do not tax tampons, and only 5 more with no sales tax. Out of 50. Wow
SomeDetroitGuy
Yeah, but in those 45 states they also tax toilet paper and diapers. That's the point.
byohzzrd
50 states, 1000s of different tax situations. US tax code is a mess.
BigSnicker
Turns out they're not exempt from sales tax, unlike other essential goods: https://www.snopes.com/tampon-tax/
SomeDetroitGuy
Toilet paper and diapers aren't exept from sales tax here in Michigan. Is there a state you're aware of where they are?
BigSnicker
Yes: https://www1.avalara.com/us/en/blog/2016/09/putting-the-tp-in-tax-pain-wacky-tax-wednesday.html
SomeDetroitGuy
That says that New Jersey and Pennsylvania are the only two states that don't tax TP. In both states, tampons are also excluded. Source:
NoodlesAreMyDickFriends
But I pay tax on tp
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o4kill
Seriously, where? Where i live everything is taxed almost 10%, but it's all equal except for hotels (something like 20% there)
shedooooooooo
You wouldn’t notice with toiletries. But toilet paper usually isn’t taxed. Whereas tampons are considered luxury goods, and taxed higher.
MoonFaceinc
UK
KrystenRitterEyeRoll
In Australia GST doesn't apply to some basic living goods like fresh food and toilet paper but tampons don't make the list.
MorrighanWolf
NJ for one. NY also, Maryland yep DC yes....
shedooooooooo
VERY very recently. Within the last year and a half when it started becoming a thing. Still doesn’t mean there’s a solution to the issue.
MorrighanWolf
I'm listing the places,I know are taxing it that way for the record and have for a long time now.
kikiatari
The UK, they are considered 'luxury' and so non essential. Therefore taxed more. It is dumb.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
https://www.snopes.com/tampon-tax/
BigSnicker
https://www.snopes.com/tampon-tax/
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BigSnicker
2/ But regardless. looks like we agree on what the right answer should be.. which would probably matter if you were a poor woman.
BigSnicker
No, it looks like TP and diapers fall into tax-exempt "groceries" in most states, including even lip balm and dandruff free shampoo in NYC.
spaceasaurus
Because they’re considered a “luxury”.
SomeDetroitGuy
Toilet paper and diapers are luxuries now?
spaceasaurus
In some states, yes.
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DickPicEnthusiast
Maybe as opposed to pads? A weird thing to call a luxury.
spaceasaurus
Pads are also taxed as luxury items
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DeltaVelocity
In Australia it does, essential items such as fresh food (butter/milk), TP and condoms are GST exempt. But tampons aren't because "luxury".
tallbo
Are maxi pads luxury taxed also? Do they want people to use the old cotfon sanitary napkins? Thats nuts
spaceasaurus
Never said they were. However, tampons & pads are taxed as luxury because they’re not seen as a necessity for the population. Which is dumb.
SomeDetroitGuy
You literally replied to a question about taxing toilet paper and diapers differently from tampons.
requit
Toilet paper and toothpaste are subject to the exact same tax, and more people use those.