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Baltimore City Councilman Nick Mosby was asked about the riots with the following: "Tell me what this means for your city... when your watching this go on, does this break your heart?"
Understanding motivation does not excuse them. Understanding why tragedy happens is necessary for change.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10153201092006336
babycham
Unfortunately no company in their right mind would move to a place that has potential employees burning businesses to the ground.
samiii
FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY THE GIFS?
Youareapoopyhead
good plan as mayor to justify why the idiots adding to the problem should be excused for doing it.. idiot
billiebitkiller
Suddenly really glad I live in the (rural) South. We may be, generally speaking, not well off, but we're not ass to nut with angry people.
JasonD
"So the first thing we did to solve the problem was burn down a new low-income senior housing unit, you know, to protest being deprived."
Crawley
So the solution to a socially economically deprived area is burn the economic drivers to the ground?
CleverUsernameThatAppliesToTheAboveImage
First GabeN gets thrashed by Reddit, now a segment from Fox News is on the front page of imgur... Am I actually in a coma right now?
SometimesIFeelLikeAGenius
Either way you should buy a lotto ticket...or loot the ticket in Baltimore.
SheepyCakes
To be fair it's Fox News getting schooled by this guy
BaxtersSoup
Fox were trying to skew what the councilman was saying but he wouldnt give in and owned the interview.
SomethingReallyAmusing
yeah that sounds like Faux News to me.....
bobinky
So explain the woman beating her ass kid,and the big guy stopping aggression and the folks cleaning up,they deprived as well.
artintel
That may be the root cause, but a riot is not an appropriate response to socio-economic frustration.
KeyLimeAnxiety
As much as everyone hates Fox, they had great coverage last night.
notme222
Everyone who hates Fox won't watch it, thereby never confronting themselves with quality coverage that would break their stereotype.
KeyLimeAnxiety
Reasonable humans like you make my day better.
signuptoday
Classic Smosbey.
legham
I was looking for this one :)
eromitlab
Hey, I once worked with that WJZ reporter. She was mediocre and had a shit attitude.
notme222
So looters want more education? Really? Wanna bet their school records don't bear that out?
Frederf
Want? No. Need? Yes. Disenfranchisement and its ills are not a deliberate thing. They want "the outcome that it turns out requires edu."
notme222
That's a fine point, but education isn't simply something you can be given. It's participatory and needs the right attitude outside school.
phantomx129
Looter-parents aren't going to stop having looter-kids unless the kids can get an education. Ed costs money, and poor schools don't have it.
notme222
Baltimore has the 2nd highest education spending in the country. $15,483 per student. (Second only to NYC.)
notme222
It's just not as simple as money = quality. e.g. Look what some charter schools or voucher programs have accomplished with lower budgets.
KingOfDup
I did my dissertation on this subject in 2010, woop woop!.... in England though, same theory still applies though.
itssopunny
You may also be interested in "Reading the Riots" by The Guarduan/LSE. 270 interviewees involved in 2011 London Riots.
orangemarmaladesky
You'd probably be interested in reading this then. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/nonviolence-as-compliance/391640/
cfb362
I would love to read that actually. to understand this perspective. is there a way you could send it?
Grabas
We had the exact same thing in 2011. It wasn't about race then and this isn't now
KingOfDup
Exactly
pgdave
The socioeconomic factors are, in large part *caused* by race.
Grabas
But they aren't doing it because they're black. It's because they're poor and angry at how society treats them (because they're black)
KeggOBeer
Lack of commercial development? Look what CVS got for "commercially developing" there. Bet they're just itching to build there again...
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FarmerJane
I'm tired of hearing that "insurance will pay for it" - no, no they don't have to. Insurance might not see the point in rebuilding there.
PhillipSemenHoffmore
Oh I'm sorry sir we have to interrupt you for a breaking story, Kim Kardashian has received a parking ticket.
automall99
Boko Haram didn't start as terrorists. It was Nigerians being tired of economic inequalities in their country.
automall99
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSDRF7VGmIs
larrylobster
Boko Haram literally translates to "Western Education is forbidden", how does income inequality factor in to that?
automall99
You should watch the video. When Nigeria found oil, the wealth stayed in the south. The North had notorious poverty & low life expectancy.
MorticiasMortician
Thank you! I'm so tired of circle jerks on here, and no one really cares to figure out why it's even happening and how to prevent it.
Severiann
Well, they're essentially turning Baltimore into Africa, go there and figure it out.
MorticiasMortician
Wow. Amazingly trollish, but my favorite part is how much it makes you look just plain racist and ignorant.
azazyel
good article http://www.vox.com/michael-brown-shooting-ferguson-mo/2014/8/19/6031759/ferguson-history-riots-police-brutality-civil-rights
Twocancallan
Well, I agree about the circle jerk but it's an image sharing website... There's nothing real going on here
only90skidswillgetthis
Shut up, if we try hard enough we will fix this, Imgur. #KONY 2012
FaithAlone
Uh, yeah. Nothing is real here, not even the circle jerks. *pulls pants back up*
imadogperson
No. I don't care. They are making up excuses for destroying shit and stealing. I'm tired of seeing people excusing this shit. Bring it on.
MorticiasMortician
Well, then i guess this circle jerk was made for you. I guess just drop your pants and step in line.
imadogperson
Fuck yeah!
WhatzitTooya
Oh boy, good thing imgur is #1 when it comes to major breakthroughs in philosophy, macro economics and politics within less than 140 chars.
WhatzitTooya
/sarcasm. (sorry, I was running out of space.)
MorticiasMortician
You do make a point, but why do we express any opinion at all on Imgur? Why don't we just talk to ourselves if it doesn't matter anyways?
WhatzitTooya
People do pointless things all the time. Maybe it's for the points, or to feel social without having to use *shudder* Facebook? Who knows...
thecrossthebridge
Its disturbing how often I have read today about how this kind of behavior is innately a "black" thing.
Severiann
Maybe b/c it happens where black people live all over the world? Could that be it?
thecrossthebridge
2 yes, yes, you might be on to something. Then you must tell me how skin pigmentation determined by the amount of melanin in the skin, which
dHoser
Happened with every race through history-socioeconomics matter-look up Jacquerie, Luddites, Cincinnati riots, NY draft riots, ad infinitum
Severiann
Brief phases in small area vs continuing behavior in huge intercontinental area. Blacks receive huge amts of subsidies, no hunger there.
dHoser
Brief phases? No, these are just incidents that we know of. No hunger in Africa? Really? Look up Cincinnati, btw
thecrossthebridge
....in turn is dependend on the geographic distribution of UV radiation correlates with criminal behavior.
AdamOfIzalith
"People do bad things, but there's always something that gives them that nudge" - John Constantine
papadezelda
I grew up in a bad neighborhood and I can tell you people look for reasons to act out. Look in the mirror before you put the blame on others
Hellblazer12
Logged in just to up vote, always upvote John Constantine
ApatheticDropbear
“It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present and a waste to live in the future.” ― Frank Herbert, Dune
shedang
"it's good to meet girl in park, but better to park meat in girl" - confucius
greatgoatman
This makes me think of Dresden Files. Ghost Story, when you find out exactly what happened in Changes.
Rodvitner
I think it's Hitler, he didn't actually kill himself. He became ant man and is now nudging people to do stuff like this.
GreaterDog
From what I understand, Baltimore PD has a bad track record of brutality. Suits brought against them usually win, and it's very expensive.
Ihazcheeseburger
To be fair the Baltimore crime rate is pretty brutal too.
GreaterDog
So I can only imagine what it feels like to be in that situation and think you have no other choice.
Akkad47
CaptainColder
Where's that from? I'm behind on Constantine and Hellblazer
TheLordLucifersBannedAccount02
Hellblazer ended in issue 300.
AdamOfIzalith
It's actually from the Keanu Reeves movie! Sorry to disappoint! Only just started reading Hellblazer.
CaptainColder
Keep at it. There's a reason it was Vertigo's longest running series
TheLordLucifersBannedAccount02
It's fantastic. You'll be glad you saw the movie first, and then be disappointed in the tv show.
dorkdiggler
I'd go back and read Alan Moore's run on Swamp thing. It was Constantine's first actual appearance (and one of the best story arcs ever)
lawlschool88
I read hellblazer first, working on swamp thing now. John just showed up and I'm so stoked. Both are amazing series.
dorkdiggler
If it was comic version John it'd be, "People do some bloody awful shit -- but there's always somethin' gives 'em that lil' extra nudge"
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Eh, if it was comic version John, he probably wouldn't believe for a second that something supernatural is needed to nudge humans into evil.
RogueBullet
Strewth!
Bent0916
"People lash out and get angry only when they are suffering inside." - Thich Nhat Hanh (I think)
dorkdiggler
Actual quote: "We're born capable of terrible things, but then sometimes something else comes along and gives us just the right nudge"
Cheeseheadfirepants
The tl;dr is DONT FUCKING NUDGE PEOPLE
AdamOfIzalith
Shit. Now i feel like an idiot. :/
TheDarkLordOfTrees
at least you didn't make the "money is the root of all evil" misquote
dorkdiggler
Your participation trophy :D -
dorkdiggler
I'm one of the rare idiots who likes Keanu Constantine TV Constantine and Comics Constantine...so I'm just THAT guy when it comes to him
fnurglbhurg
He did a good interpretation, I'm with you there.
AdamOfIzalith
Every Constantine thus far has been amazing so far as i can see.
dorkdiggler
For a character that's been around as long as he has, there really aren't a lot of misfires. Even his New 52 character is awesome!
Hellblazer12
I didn't mind Keanu Constantine, to me it was pretty good. Big fan of hellblazer and the show though
dorkdiggler
Hmm, I don't believe you @Hellblazer12
WizardsStick
It is tough though. Commercial development. Not many businessmen want to build establishments in a town/city with no money and high crime
charlesxavier
In my area business opened and young white couples bought property in the area. They were blamed because minorities couldn't afford to stay.
Graphically
"GENTRIFICATION IS EVIL!!!!!!"
Grabas
Exactly. You can't rely on businesses to fix the situation alone. The government has to encourage the businesses in with tax breaks etc
WizardsStick
We need to start funding education hard, it will take a few years, but change will come for the better. Problem is we keep defunding it.
SaintMaceToTheFace
You can fund education all you want, it won't help unless people place importance on finishing school
WizardsStick
... I am sure funding schools and how well students perform will go hand in hand. For a lot of these kids, especially in rough (1/2)
SaintMaceToTheFace
The public school system of Baltimore has one of the largest budgets in the country. If you don't go it won't do a damned thing for you.
WizardsStick
on the quality of the education the students will get, and them finishing school. You argument is complete bullshit
WizardsStick
neighborhoods, school is a safe haven from the crime and violence that is happening outside. funding schools will have a direct impact
WizardsStick
on the quality of the education the students will get, and them finishing school. You argument is complete bullshit
SaintMaceToTheFace
Baltimore is one of the best funded school systems in the USA. If you don't finish school it doesn't mean shit
MontanaPimpHand
its not about one thing,but it was the straw that broke the camels back. A deprived society is like dynamite just waiting to explode
SheriffHD
Its a bitch of a circle jerk. Riots happen, no one want to invest. becomes deprived, riots start.
hetriedtokillmewithaforklift
Broken Window theory?
myvulvaissmootherthanavealcutlet
BWT is more about how seemingly minor signifiers need to be squelched in order to prevent general sense of poverty and criminality. 1/2
myvulvaissmootherthanavealcutlet
2/2 Similar ideas but BWT has been used to justify harshly punishing misdemeanors and can have connotations of supporting mass incarceration
FarmerJane
However, why would anyone want to invest in an area where they're just going to burn it down when they get angry? It goes both ways.
Sanktw
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2125653/
myvulvaissmootherthanavealcutlet
I don't think he was criticizing the decision not to invest, more just pointing out that the cycle exists and there's no easy way out.
FarmerJane
Any suggestions on how to make it better?
myvulvaissmootherthanavealcutlet
I don't know enough about the issue to really offer any informed suggestions. I wish I could, though.
imadogperson
Stop fucking shit up.
StephanieWasTheTrueVillainOfLazyTown
Cycle. The word you're looking for is cycle.
NotThePersonYouAreLookingFor
or Revolution
endfreq
The push-pull of the universe. The duality of existence. Stickin' ur Yang in the Yin.
endfreq
I've been arguing this point with one of my smartest friends for months and he still refuses to believe that it's not race. IT'S ECONOMICS
BenSwol0
I will fully believe that when I stop hearing the phrase "I don't want to sound racist, but..." Race does play a role in this.
senoroctobre
You might need smarter friends then.
amelaine8
Proximate and ultimate causes, bro. It's super easy to run regressions and see that race underlies economic disparity.
Severiann
Maybe your friend is smarter than you. Ask yourself if you ca be convinced of what he says. If not, your belief is religious, not scientific
only90skidswillgetthis
You probably need smarter friends.
ItsGoTime
There are a lot of smart people that believe some pretty stupid stuff.
LizardEnterprises
"It's the Economy, stupid"
InsertWittyAndCleverUsernameHere
Agree that economics is the main problem, but race is still an important underlying issue.
brian17411
Actions are the problem, not the skin color
InsertWittyAndCleverUsernameHere
This is what the post was addressing. These actions are partially in response to discrimination of skin color.
SAWhowhatnow
I think you missed the part where a lot of economic policies disproportionally affect racial minorities deliberately.
endfreq
I never missed it. Race affects your economic status, but he swears it's strictly a race issue and I see it as a have/have-not issue.
Cheomesh
Which ones?
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thecrossthebridge
LOOK WHOS TALKING
thecrossthebridge
does nobody read usernames anymore?
endfreq
Well, he's black... so.... maybe.
StephanieWasTheTrueVillainOfLazyTown
Black people can be racist too.
endfreq
He's not racist.
AWizardOfLoneliness
smart friend
DaDisser
I mean, race, culture, and age all have something to do with it, but a large majority of it can be traced right down to the economics.
bamcockseverywhere
Just don't mention that's it's really hard to gain economic advantage in the mid-1800s while you're still in fucking chains.
UnNedStark
Economics that have been based on years of depriving opportunity to the racial minority. I agree w you, but there's no denying a connection
endfreq
True. And just to clarify... I am not ignoring that race isn't a factor, just that the base cause of this hate and frustration is economic.
Beleg7
Race and economics are completely intertwined in America. It's almost impossible to look at one and not see some of the other.
BooksandBiceps
Which explains why latinos, asians, and modern african immigrants consistently improve in every metric, yet African Americans haven't. k.
endfreq
That's an excellent point and I understand that race affects your socio-economic status but I think it's a rich-vs-poor war.
xzhous
These don't have to be mutually exclusive.
lotrmith
If that's true, where are the poor white people riots?
DamnedAustin
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html
bamcockseverywhere
Sporting events
lotrmith
Nah man sporting events cost $$$
bamcockseverywhere
Doesn't cost a goddamn thing to go to the riot afterwards though
FeralGrizz
I think Education is where you start to try and fix this, make sure children understand how important it is for them to stay in school.
navelbabel
Yeah, but "staying in school" is only part of the battle. You have to have decent schools, too!
notme222
It's important that happens at home. If family and community treat education as irrelevant and school as a chore, what can educators do?
FeralGrizz
Teachers are some of the most influential people in a young childs life growing up, and I believe it starts there, get them interested.
notme222
Teachers do amazing work. But they'll tell you that when there are problems at home, there's only so much they can do.
FeralGrizz
I totally agree
phantomx129
Parents aren't going to change on their own. Teachers can work with parents to change their minds. But that requires money.
Schmedes
I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure he is trying to articulate something to me
McFarvo
Social economics, bruh, na'am sayin'? #chuch
McFarvo
shiiiiiiiiiiiit, ya'll don't understand the socially economical reasons behind downvoting my comment
rezpawner
You articulated it, bro.
TraitorousTrump3
You too could be a TV personality, rolling your eyes & looking for the quick, cheap hit!
Frederf
Raise your hand if you heard the pronunciation extra intricate in your head when you read that.
AWizardOfLoneliness
HAHA I think someone learned a new word today..
thelml
Let's donate $1 to Nepal for each time a Baltimore post makes frontpage.
HeyHalcyon
Better idea than the drinking game I made out of this'.
WhatsTheMatterOtter
Oh you poor soul. Liver poisoning..
thekidwrites
Make a post about Nepal to raise some awareness? Honestly, you should do that. It would be cool and actually more helpful than sarcasm 2/2
honeysmith
Let's donate a dollar to Baltimore and help fix their infrastructure. There are people helping Nepal. What's being done in Baltimore?
HypersonicHarpist
I have friends in Nepal, they're okay but some of them lost their houses. I really wish I could do more for them :(
IWouldBeACatIfICould
We can't afford to make them the richest part of the world
BETTYFUCKINWHITE
I see you've been on the dreaded facebook today.
ObliviousVirgin
Thank you.
WeightPlatesAndSummerDates
That made me chuckle. Internet point for you +1
WanderingBlueWanderlust
DON'T SHOW THE BAD REPLIES IN THIS COMMENT THREAD OR OTHERS IN THIS POST.
Evyreid
We'll have Nepal fixed up before the week ends if we did that.
zoolian
At least you'll have a charity all set.
BalmDeBono
Like... a "Newpal"? (sorry I'm drunk. (Yes on a thursday night don't judge me please))
Supercleverusernameyouwishyouthoughtof
But its tuesday afternoon ?
BalmDeBono
Yes I fucked up. It's tuesday night here. I'm french.
wonapalie
well, bonjour! (ou, bon nuit..... :P )
1spodaspakers
3000 children die of malaria each day, how can you talk about Nepal at a time like this? You can't talk about A because B is worse!
kaakischaf
So again, this is not about who's got it worse. If you want to help, then help. Simple as that.
eskimo56
3000 every day???
Ciffer
Something I actually give a shit about. ok
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only90skidswillgetthis
Sorry guys, I totally didn't know about the earthquake. I thought you guys were hippies who were on that 90s cause to support the Dalai Lama
PNWDiscr
The death toll in Nepal from the earthquake just passed 4,600. Four thousand, six hundred people.
thelml
2/2 and people are fleeing due to lack of water, electricity and food. Paying attention to the wrong part of the world, imo
Mrwhoever
I really don't think there is any cause more deserving than Nepal at the moment, especially if you are british
thelml
Which is good. My post rather pointed at the obsession of the riots when on the other side of the world there are thousands of deaths 1/2
missmaryMACKMACKMACK
you do know about the major earthquake, right? it's pretty desperate there right now.
kinglycitrus
"So sick of hearing about all these black people and their silly problems. Can't we just pretend this isn't happening?" -You
thelml
Not really. Both things suck, the events that caused this, as well as the people who riot. But 4700+ counted deaths, no water 1/2
thelml
2/2 or electricity, no food. 1.4 million people without food. And yet the internet obsesses over Baltimore but there is nothing about Nepal
enoughisenough
Stop making people feel bad for not feeling bad about the thing you feel bad about. Jeez.
kinglycitrus
Most of these posts have been circlejerks from Reddit condemning the riots and implying that all blacks are violent thugs.
thekidwrites
As a Baltimore City resident, I completely understand what you're saying. But please don't try to out-care others. Why don't you 1/2
Msclois
Feeling so happy about this, thought imgur was drowning from ignorance and greediness for points
ElementOfConfusion
I don't see that, but I have been staying far away from usersub. Must be terrible.
interrogationbear
Seriously. It has been depressing seeing how much stupidity and hate has been on the front page today.
uhmhisup
Wow, this post, comment and string of replies gives me hope because some imgurians ARE aware of the bigger problems at play here
graehall
I stopped browsing yesterday for a good 8 or 9 hours, there were multiple reposts of the same thing and it felt like a shitshow of misery.
Thatgirlarlyn
Tell me about it! Imgur actually upset me this morning. This is such an important point to understand.
SantaPanda
I thought this was most people's opinion on the riots...
yazmanian6
Ditto. I had to sign off this morning because I was getting too upset.
TheFourthPhalange
Yeah, seriously if I have to read 'MLK would be spinning in his grave!!' one more time...
Electriccarsbestcars
They always miss the part where MLK thanked Malcolm X and acknowledged that they both worked towards the same goal
PamelaSplooshPoovey
I think most people understand the anger behind the riots. I just don't think anyone believes that anger is enough to condone rioting.
yogurtandstuff
I read an interesting POV that basically dialed down to: "the law allows violence against black people, why do we expect them to trust 1/2
yogurtandstuff
the law enough to follow it." 2/2
piratejenny
I'm an Australian and marathonning "The Wire" when this Baltimore story floods the FP. I feel like I know these people and their lives. 1/
piratejenny
And that councilman speaks just like the better politicians in that show.
kinglycitrus
It is. Posts like this are the exception, not the rule. Sanity is becoming a pretty fucking rare commodity around here.
lawlschool88
Honestly, despite the recurrent bigotry, I think imgur's becoming more progressive. Slowly, but I'm seeing more comments calling shit out.
kinglycitrus
I think imgur's always been relatively progressive when considered on its own. Reddit is... less so, and there's obvious a lot of overlap.
Blue3Sierra
So we show how we are subject to social and economic depravation by essentially burning down the local economy. Please try again.
cdba15
A few fires/looters = "essentially burning down the local economy"?
Blue3Sierra
"A few fires and looters"? What message do you think that sends local and regional business? It certainly is not "build here "
cdba15
What message were those businesses getting before? Pls show me an economically devastated area wo/ riots where businesses are dying to build
Blue3Sierra
Damn its hard to have a decent conversation in 140 characters or less
cdba15
Yeah, for real. Esp. about this shit.
Blue3Sierra
So your argument becomes that it is ok to burn / loot since the area is already impoverished?
cdba15
No. I don't agree with looting. My point is that those people would not be the focus of my criticism.
Blue3Sierra
I get what you are driving at and even agree with some of the councilmans statements, 1
Blue3Sierra
2 but i refuse to accept economic depravation as a wishy washy excuse for violence
cdba15
Fair. I think violence is much worse than property damage. But again - I think this owes to a lot more than moral character. 1
cdba15
2 So I try to figure out the root cause. & try to empathize with the destructive reactions. Believe me - rioters get blamed without our help
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Baltimore spends more per student than anywhere else besides NYC, DC, and Boston...so clearly there's a problem with a) education systems1/2
sadhunny
Or when you grow up in the ghetto it's kinda hard to get out
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
or b) the individual school systems. Nearby school systems in VA and MD spend much less per student, but get far better results.It's not 2/3
imnogoodatthis
Have to take any of that responsibility on themselves. Clearly the government failed them because they are black
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
that schools are underfunded. There seems to be some other underlying issue. My guess: teachers avoid what they see as dangerous areas.
zeim0014
As a teacher who has worked in poor areas, its not really about danger so much as how stressful, difficult, and heartbreaking every day is
phantomx129
Wow. Didn't know this. You have a source? Also, is this "Average $ per student", because poorer areas could still be getting less.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/05/23/the-dramatic-inequality-of-public-school-spending-in-america/
imnogoodatthis
Or the problem is with the black community. No one ever wants to look at it that way though. There is no way those students should 1/2
DamnedAustin
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html
Ihazcheeseburger
3) and if one of the white people got beat by an officer we'd just say "Well it was his own damn fault."
DamnedAustin
I wasn't forgiving rioters in any sense. Merely pointing out that it has nothing to do with black culture or problems in the black community
Ihazcheeseburger
2) But when it is black people... "don't say thug, they are just frusted. It's society's fault. These are just poor kids."
Ihazcheeseburger
1l I think the difference is when we see that we have no problem saying. "Those thugs should all be thrown in prison and get a good beating"
KingKendrickLamar
THANK YOU!!! I don't think anybody on here understands that.
Faloopsinarb
I guarantee you the racists of Imgur don't understand this, and don't care.
doihearanamen
People understand, and many have commented saying so, but get downvoted into the dregs.
watercolortitties
This is true.
charlesxavier
Problem is that businesses open and the community becomes more appealing. Wealthier people move in, value goes up, & people are forced out.
senoroctobre
Lots of people understand that, but sadly there also seem to be a lot of angry, ignorant people out there too
FuckThisThingInParticular
Everyone does. It doesn't mean violence isn't wrong (also understood). Despite of being a symtom the riot only benefits crime, nothing else.
plasticsoul
It seems like things around here are cooling off today after all the knee jerk reactionary 'shoot them all' BS from yesterday.
KingKendrickLamar
Thank goodness for that.
wrknsmart
*didn't
override367
He really isn't wrong, today it's Baltimore and tomorrow it'll be Chicago or Philly. America's basically given up on the lower classes
moogecko
I think many people understand this. However, the primary targets of these riots have been other oppressed and impoverished individuals 1/2
amelaine8
No one's saying they're being rational. But this is what happens when you take away people's opportunities to do anything productive.
moogecko
As such, I find it extremely hard to use the social conditions these rioters are in as justification for their actions.
usernaimunavailable
That's what I'm trying to articulate to you!!!!
iThoughtSheWasLvl18
Fuck all that. I'm all for the people peacefully protesting but don't give me this shit that people are doing this because they are 1/?
LtCmmdrData
Ah yes. Fuck all of his valid points, and funnel the complexity of the issue into "because they can"
iThoughtSheWasLvl18
What is complex about burning down the neighborhood you live in and mugging innocent people?
thefatbulimic
Why did you hit your brother?
iThoughtSheWasLvl18
being "socially opressed". All the pictures of these rioters show them smiling having the time of their life. They do it because they can.
WhimsicalCalamari
They're smiling because finally, for once in their lives, they feel like they have some sort of control over their situation.
CaptainHanderpants
Apparently I touched a nerve somewhere with some logic. Look into the motives of some killers and it is about control. Same applies.
latinapersuasion
^this person gets it
CaptainHanderpants
So do murderers at times. Not a great metaphor for use in this situation. Agreed?
JPre35
or maybe its the free stuff? idk