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A group realized that *someone* was using Comcast's customer data to FALSELY submit SUPPORT for killing Net Neutrality to the FCC.
That's right. You may be on record as saying you hate Net Neutrality.
How can you find out?
The `Fight for the Future` group set up a site to check if your name was submitted to the FCC: comcastroturf.com
lol ... Just to demonstrate that they were no way involved with this stuffing-the-ballot-boxes action... guess what Comcast did. Go ahead, guess.
Yup. Comcast lawyers issued a totally bullshit cease-and-desist letter to Fight for the Future (the group that runs www.comcastroturf.com to take it down.
Read more: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170523/13491237437/if-net-neutrality-dies-comcast-can-just-block-protest-site-instead-sending-bogus-cease-and-desist.shtml
AgentHomo
Someone said "...The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama..." Under my name
blahtotheblahblah
Huh, they used my name and I've never even been a Comcast customer....
starheart8
Just found out that someone fraudulently submitted anti net neutrality comments in my name. I'm going to try to call my AG on this
m0biusloop
You're missing the part where the cease/desist letter was sent when the site was registered, weeks before the site had any content on it.
m0biusloop
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/comcast-vendor-sent-cease-and-desist-to-operator-of-anti-comcast-website/
Fi20Z37V
What blows my mind is that somewhere in comcast there are researchers and software engineers who are okay with this
Corrodias
1) They're getting paid, and 2) they're not the ones making the decisions.
HopelesslySherlocked
3. It's fairly easy to make a forms submission tool with an open ended address so the programmer never knows what site it'll be used on.
GabrielFlood
Holy crap. It's not even subtle.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
FCC even said they will honor obvious ballot-stuffing comments like these.
sllabs
Huh. Guess the ol' prez didn't like his rules either. https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filing/1051157755251
Ryebread91
I'm not sure I understood anything said in the post.
ILogInToUpvote
I searched my last name as a test. Over 100 IDENTICAL comments from various people saying they should repeal the title 2 classification.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Yes. And the FCC has stated they will honor them all.
ILogInToUpvote
So who's writing a spambot to counter this mess?
Gmayor61
If this is any time for 4chan to be working that weaponized autism magic, now's a pretty good time. Comcast is basically begging for it.
faceinthewind
No comcast here in Canada. Come on up!
brightintempas
A free internet is needed for freedom of the press. This is something the current administration has no interest in promoting.
Brainsplosion
Don't worry. There are still plenty of epusodes left. Pied Piper just might pull off their new internet idea.
arxis210
"Current".. plans to control what people can see and do on the internet have been under way for a long time. "Random hacks" likely 1/2
arxis210
Orchestrated by government as a means to "pass laws to restrict it in order to prevent said hacks"
arxis210
As usual, govt causes a problem and offers a "solution" which always further empowers government and restricts freedom.
mokzin
I was going to do the comcastroturf thing but it wanted to use my number to call the FCC or force me to share on FB or twitter. Nope.
Orktapus
I didn't have a fake one, but now I have a real one in support of it... fuck Comcast
djangojazz
Whenever you hear someone say that Net Neutrality is 'government controlled internet' go ahead and slap that person as they are a moron.
ShaunDreclin
Ask them if they'd like government to stop preventing people from shooting you in the head ¯\(ツ)/¯
OmnibusLatinName
Wow, speaking of unbiased journalism...
Roqinn
WTF?!? Someone is using my name in another state?? lol
SquintyMcSkitter
Or maybe you are involved in this scheme and that website link you provided to check the information actually gathers the information!
Boadicea
I found my name, the address listed was for a public housing project. The comment was not written by someone living in low income housing.
XigTek
Someone with the same name could be in that area. It's a bot posting the same message.
Opii
It feels like identity fraud of some sort.
GabrielFlood
Did it start with
?
Boadicea
Yes, lol.
azgrak
Same here, found my name and my mothers but the addresses did not match. The comments seam to be written by a PR firm.
ThaddeusLinc
What did it say? just curious as I didn't find my name but multiple other Thaddeus with all the exact same comment.
GabrielFlood
PossibilitiesToCertainties
There's one under mine starting with 'Obama's Federal Communications Commission (FCC) forced regulations on the internet that put the gov..'
GusTarball
A more direct link, minus third party sites, to the FCC government search for the same results can be found at https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/
Corrodias
Funny, my comment from last year(ish?) doesn't show up in the search.
BlownByTheMonsignor
Isn't that Time Warner Cable's old logo?
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Well, they all change their logos every few years to "reband" (aka hide from their shitty old brand).
mysslyss
Umm no. Comcast and TWC are two very separate companies with different logos. They are literally each others competition. I work for one
Dignato
That was Time Warner Cable's logo for 30 years, my dude.
iTakeQuotesOutOfContext
Oceanic Time Warner, in particular, still uses it. Hawaii is behind the curve on the Spectrum swap, lol.
mgannon2788
Time Warner Cable used to be part of Time Warner Inc. They sold their cable business to Charter and Charter could only keep the name so long
mgannon2788
Had nothing to do with rebranding to save the brand or escape bad publicity or anything. Just terms of a sale to another company.
BlownByTheMonsignor
Right, but TWC changed their brand to Spectrum. You're talking about Comcast, specifically.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Agreed. I should have photoshopped up a one using the Comcast logo, but I'm lazy as fuck so...
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
"Comcast is now XFinity"
metaspy
thankfully i was not
Defaction
Wouldn't this be considered fraud?
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
Nah man, they have money. They're immune
Aimanfire
Upvoting for awareness
Silverforte
Money did this, you'll never win. We'll always lose. Either join them and abuse people or remain the victims.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Things don't seem to be getting overall worse in the big picture for the general population.. that's a pretty damn pessimistic view.
freshneverfro7en
*grabs baseball bat* I heard some prisoners didn't want their knees anymore.
scnottaken
Or, you know, pitchforks
Silverforte
Til the next national scam. Then the one after that.
ILogInToUpvote
Sadly stabbing people with pitchforks is illegal these days.
Gmayor61
So is stealing your identity and making claims using that identity for your favor
ElPoloDiablo
Don't you guys in the States also have firearms for this sort of thing? My views on gun control be damned, surely this is a valid reason.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Thats incredibly pessimistic. You're a fool if you think money means power. Steel and fire and lead are power.
MicrowaveSafe
Yes, but money is still a power, because you and I would personally have to wield the steel and fire while the rich asshats just have to 1/2
MicrowaveSafe
hire someone else to do it for them.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Only takes one bullet.
Silverforte
I'm a fool to think money is power when it has been shown constantly throughout history to be true... What do you think corrupts politicians
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Money is a gateway to power only so long as money has real worth.
EnterTheMongoose
That's interesting. I submitted a real comment a few weeks back and no record of my comment was found.
mobiusplane
Since I didn't see my comment either, I read further down and saw this:
mobiusplane
This search will only yield results if your name was submitted to the FCC alongside a suspicious anti-net neutrality comment. If you have
mobiusplane
submitted a comment to the FCC in defense of net neutrality, your comment will not show up from this search.
EnterTheMongoose
Sounds even less plausible... They can differentiate suspicious comments but they will not discard them.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
You also have to wonder, who's sitting in usersub downvoting posts like this:
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rimehoarfrost
Not me.
TylerTheAnarchist
Those of use who work for comcast... not saying its me or anything but Comcast is having Xfinity promotion for $89.99/mo.
NR97420
Probably guys like Mr. Pink.
SaltyNun
hey b0ss
ReverendShitlord
Fucking hate Mr. Pink.
rchecka
That was the Trump cult toys who think even this shit is perfectly fine since it's a republican agenda because they are willing hand puppets
rocketturttle
just want to point out that most of the senior staff at the FCC are obama picks
AgolfHiller
Ah there we go. Mentioning Trump a day keeps the talk about blatant corruption in the Entire US government not just "duh repubelcans" away
rchecka
No. Blame belongs to Trump and the republicans, it's 100% their agenda and the dems want nothing to do with this highly unpopular concept.
DoogallyBear
If you genuinely believe that you are beyond deluded.
rchecka
Read the news, it's not fake https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/technology/net-neutrality.html?_r=0
ForgotMyOtherAcct
So while I think Democrats can be just as bad, on this specific issue, it's Republicans pushing for the end of net neutrality rules and has
Redusty
Ummm. ... what's net neutrality?
freshneverfro7en
It means that the government can't spy on your on the net. People in the west like privacy
ForgotMyOtherAcct
While privacy is great, net neutrality isn't the same and unfortunately we don't have much definite privacy in the west online.
freshneverfro7en
Oi? I'm incorrect?
danielsan1977
It means that ISPs can't discriminate based on content. Fox News is the same as MSNBC is the same as Netflix is the same as [porn site]. --
danielsan1977
-- all packets are considered equal. Your cat meme is just as important as someone's resume. And vice versa. All content is equal.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
To go further with actual explanations since you wanted examples in the other comment: a few years ago, Comcast slowed down Netflix service
ForgotMyOtherAcct
For all Comcast customers, demanding money from Netflix in order to speed service back up. It was plain and simple extortion. That was the
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Cast that actually put the rules where they are now, and that is the kind of thing Ajit pai at the FCC wants to enable again. You would have
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Sites you use get extorted for money by service providers and that means some sites would lose users or go out of business if there weren't
ForgotMyOtherAcct
Willing or able to pay. Which could be especially bad for certain websites that don't charge subscriptions, incidentally.
javer80
freshneverfro7en is wrong. Privacy & NN are important, but different. https://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality-what-you-need-know-now
Redusty
Can you explian It andd not send links please. Just tell me what it is
MatrimBloodyCauthon
You're going to find out if it gets passed, and all your sites take forever to load or you can't get to them. Check the link.
javer80
Sure. It's the policy that all internet traffic must be treated equally, regardless of origin or type. So if AT&T is your service provider..
javer80
... you can view their competitors' sites at the same speed as anything else. But, ISPs have the technical ability to slow down service...
javer80
... or speed it up for particular sites. If NN were gone, sites would have to pay fees to ISPs or suffer worse access speeds. That's just...
Gibblestick
The FCC are aware of the issue and said they will still take the false comments as being real. Unbiased and for your best interests?
BayazTheBenevolent
Thanks again, America, for electing that administration. If these fuckers end up killing my internet I'm going to be mighty mad.
Gibblestick
But you won't be able to tell anyone, so I guess it all works out. Or something.
Raziel420
It's amazing what money can do, throw enough money at washington and you can make anything happen
SneakyMerc
Source for that mate? Would like to read it
StanleyTheStartinglySmallSeaSerpent
Just Google fake FCC comments or go to the FFTF website
GadenKerensky
More and more, I feel like people should just calmly linger in numbers around congress, then suddenly burst inside and give a good slapping.
theloneponderer
Wow, real fakes news and they just eat it up.
MindlessChaos
Apparently there is some shit where ISPs are using net neutrality as a reason not to expand/improve the physical networks and are (1)
Katalliaan
Even before people were fighting them over NN, ISPs were pocketing the money from government grants instead of spending them on improvements
MindlessChaos
That is true, the issue is with further expansion now afaik. Net Neutrality they claim will lead to other companies claiming their lines.
MindlessChaos
using it as leverage to get it overturned. I am not sure which way is up currently but we have had some fucked up laws leading to now. 2/2
StanleyTheStartinglySmallSeaSerpent
They also said that comments only have so much value, they could get only pro-net neutrality comments and still abolish it. 1/2
StanleyTheStartinglySmallSeaSerpent
Congress is debating stepping in, but they're run by the same party, so theyll probably just scrap it and tell everyone to fuck off
Corrodias
Pai literally said it's "not a public opinion poll", i.e., he doesn't give a shit what the public wants.
StanleyTheStartinglySmallSeaSerpent
Of course not, he's an ex-verizon lawyer, he has a special business interest in removing it
searchingformypurpose
So what youre saying is, someone needs to make a counter-bot to post people saying they love net neutrality
wabitgirl
Precisely. I suck at programming or I'd already be on it.
hifive2wifei
Goons, Lizards, and Botz, oh my! (Yes.)
Velocinipple
10 bucks says they'd call out the "counter-bot" votes and not count a single one...
Drakenborn
If literally 99.9% of the populace all professed their undying love for Net Neutrality, Dumbass Von Dickwaffle will say "It's for the best"
Gibblestick
Dumbass Von Dickwaffle is my new favorite name.
TyrionLannisterTheImp
Can't you just pay $500 to have 200 Taiwanese children do the same thing?
jizanthipussss
Man, if I had a nickel for every time I heard that!
ThanksToDenialImImmortal
You'd be able To afford the 500$?
searchingformypurpose
$500 for only 200??? Pft companies normally do dimes a day for them
ImNotAnOrange
i think the implication was they would be spamming, not each sending in one
Itchy73
No. He's saying the children themselves cost dimes a day.
disinfectantrum
It won't matter. They are doing this whether we like it or not. The mild charade that we have a say is more for them than anyone else
zackofspades
Any hope for Net Neutrality sailed with the corrupt fuck inaugurated in January. Peasants have nothing.
theloneponderer
We have guns. We have revolution
Thalarctos
This is true, although its going to take a lot more than the internet becoming a capitalist $ maker to fire me up. Don't get me wrong, I >