Needs context. Can be clearing of fire sectors, preparing for driving wide vehicles on that street, removing IED-opportunities, clearing retreat routes, felling trees to use for barricades or any number of reasons. Hell, could be a new driver being told to train knocking things over in case they need him to.
I've been considering the whole chosen people thing and wondering how the Israeli's look at themselves doing what they're doing under that label. I know there are Israeli's who protest what's happening and the thought occurs that Israel may be headed for the same division the US is facing. Honorable, decent people v those who simply want to experience power.
And what about murderers, abusers, rapists and psychopaths who are atheists? Anyone can use any excuse to cause harm to anyone. Saying religion leads to hate is as dismissive as saying video games lead to hate.
Video checks out, likely Hanoun street in central Tulkarem. Dozer was apparently there to unearth IEDs while IDF investigated a terror cell. They came away with hundreds of explosives.
More concerning is Israel knew the attack was going to happen and did nothing with the info, looks like they intentionally sacrificed their own citizens to try and justify this response.
Wasn't the site of the rave moved at the last minute too? I read somewhere that the original site was 50km away, and then they moved it to the kibbutz a few days beforehand
they literally funded Hamas for thirty years expressly to give them justification to genocide Palestinians. Netanyahu, in 2019, justified the latest round of Israeli approved funding to Hamas specifically to prevent a unified Palestine and a peaceful solution
And weirdly enough, Israel funded Hamas to fight the PLO. Almost as if it was always the plan... Finance them to fight your enemy, let them take over and fuck shit up, then let the big attack that was known for months happen to "justify" what they're doing.
Damn, WHERE could they have learned THAT tactic from?! I can't think of any nation that funded "freedom fighters" only to have an excuse to hunt them down later in politically oppositional parts of the world! (This is sarcasm, this has been the USA play book for decades).
You're a walking stereotype of a 14yo edgelord who just discovered atheism. You know nothing about me yet your conviction that you know everything about me is absolute. It's chest-out ignorant atheists like you that give the rest of us a bad name.
Enh. Seeing how the Ashkenazi Jews have generally treated Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews even before the founding of Israel really suggests that it's simple, bald racism first, and ethno-religion is just the excuse they settled on to gain broader support for their colonialist project.
Palm Trees? They've been destroying people's HOMES in the West Bank for decades. Israel claims it needs to site for security, then gives the residents as little as 45 minutes to permanent leave the home their family may have lived in for generations. A bulldozer then demolishes the house. Standard practice since the 1990s.
It's a policy following up on Israeli's decision in 1977 to start build permanent settlements in the occupied West Bank. Until the Menachem Begin conservative government was elected, Israel did not see the West Bank as permanently theirs. The primary nature of Israel changed as right wing fundamentalists were replacing progressives in governmental and religious life.
Israel took the West Bank from Jordan in 1967. The west bank was part of Jordan between 1948 and 1967 after it was absorbed during their 1948 invasion of Israel.
...Why is the concept of giving it to the people who have lived there, who are a separate people from any of the surrounding countries, such a hard thing to conceptualize? Fuck, we did it for Israel and they weren't even living there at the time. Just give them a piece of sovereign fuckin land and leave them the hell alone.
cousteau
That'll surely ensure the safety of their land against the Palestinian threat of vegetation
hersmokeroseupforeverandever8
So they can land helicopters more easily when they send out the death squads
lazysombrero
Israel is an ashoe
fbutaric
Why? Because they have their laws on their side just like the SS had law on their side during the holocaust
doody639
Clearing the way for those beach front condos being advertised.
SirPumpUp
They don't give a fuck about killing kids, so can't imagine they care much about the trees. FUCK ISRAEL.
FuckThemIfTheyCantTakeAJoke
Why? Because they are the worst examples of humans on the planet.
ALLCAPSROCK
obviously those trees could have been used as food, fuel, and shelter for HAMAS!
theboned1
Hate
OhioSucks
So snipers have clear shots.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Why? Why is easy.
Because it's ethnic cleansing. The West Bank is full of palestinians, too.
Golondrino
so much hate...so little brain.
RoyalOss
Everytime I read stuff Isreal does and I think ''holy shit thats pure evil'' Israel just goes: ''hang on, hold my beer''
Stumpkiller
They've been excavating old graveyards, too. How this defeats Hamas I'm not sure.
Zombieemperor
if on a river bank id imagine the tree roots help keep the whole thing together so. Destruction of living space?
Doompug
Needs context. Can be clearing of fire sectors, preparing for driving wide vehicles on that street, removing IED-opportunities, clearing retreat routes, felling trees to use for barricades or any number of reasons. Hell, could be a new driver being told to train knocking things over in case they need him to.
nqwazi
As bad as Russia at this point
brap
There were totally terrorists hiding behind those palm trees.
TZO2k15
Why? Because of malevolent spite, that's why…
DameDePiques
Those trees were clearly agents of Hamas.
xenjamin
This phony war will lead to the destruction of Isreal itself. How can it not? Sorry. Also, not sorry.
JackingMeHoff
Israel will raze the area to build a new Israeli settlement. They'll do the same along the oceanfront for beach resorts.
GuysJustWannaFish
Tactical reasons.
BubblesTheFish
The trees are hamas.
Fuckimgurcunts
That's a front end loader not a bulldozer
Baconlovesyoutoo
Do you suppose Jesus weeps about his dad's chosen people?
Skywatcher16
if hes real? without doubt. though if real, i also question why he and his dad arent sodom/gammorah-ing jeursalem over this shit.
Baconlovesyoutoo
I've been considering the whole chosen people thing and wondering how the Israeli's look at themselves doing what they're doing under that label. I know there are Israeli's who protest what's happening and the thought occurs that Israel may be headed for the same division the US is facing. Honorable, decent people v those who simply want to experience power.
htapoicoS
Hate. Every Religion leads to hate
jfd8u438fdsfkds
Don't forget about ethnicity and politics!
Skywatcher16
nah. plenty of places where that hasnt happened. 0 places religion has failed to end in hate.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
And what about murderers, abusers, rapists and psychopaths who are atheists? Anyone can use any excuse to cause harm to anyone. Saying religion leads to hate is as dismissive as saying video games lead to hate.
Ardback
They are going to build up that residential area with houses in front of the sea... and they need the ground clear.
FnordGallop
The west bank is land locked. Also there's no way to know if that video is from the west bank.
vanbarbee
Video checks out, likely Hanoun street in central Tulkarem. Dozer was apparently there to unearth IEDs while IDF investigated a terror cell. They came away with hundreds of explosives.
Exyr
Something 200 people/families have been murdered in Westbank and their homes seized....this was never about hamas. Hamas is just the justification.
JBFrawg
They could have stopped dudes with trucks and paragliders but they need an excuse for genocide
Dannoboyo
And the murders were provocation.
mham7611
Hamass is the side mission
RadishIsAMeat
More concerning is Israel knew the attack was going to happen and did nothing with the info, looks like they intentionally sacrificed their own citizens to try and justify this response.
chukyrlaw
Wasn't the site of the rave moved at the last minute too? I read somewhere that the original site was 50km away, and then they moved it to the kibbutz a few days beforehand
blaghart
they literally funded Hamas for thirty years expressly to give them justification to genocide Palestinians. Netanyahu, in 2019, justified the latest round of Israeli approved funding to Hamas specifically to prevent a unified Palestine and a peaceful solution
MapleSyrupMafia
And weirdly enough, Israel funded Hamas to fight the PLO. Almost as if it was always the plan... Finance them to fight your enemy, let them take over and fuck shit up, then let the big attack that was known for months happen to "justify" what they're doing.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
it wasn't just "fight your enemy". Israel funded Hamas because it was a right-wing extremist group. They knew there'd be no chance at peace.
wabitgirl
Damn, WHERE could they have learned THAT tactic from?! I can't think of any nation that funded "freedom fighters" only to have an excuse to hunt them down later in politically oppositional parts of the world! (This is sarcasm, this has been the USA play book for decades).
Nacon
They won't admit to it, but this is just religion being cancerous. Most of them don't even understand why they're doing anything at all.
sleepinggreenidea
This is less about religion and much, much more about ethno-nationalism.
Nacon
You are the example what I'm talking about. You have no idea what sort of impact religions has on you.
sleepinggreenidea
You're a walking stereotype of a 14yo edgelord who just discovered atheism. You know nothing about me yet your conviction that you know everything about me is absolute. It's chest-out ignorant atheists like you that give the rest of us a bad name.
wherethehorriblethingsare
Religion is the bus that got them to the ethno-nationalist festival.
sleepinggreenidea
Enh. Seeing how the Ashkenazi Jews have generally treated Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews even before the founding of Israel really suggests that it's simple, bald racism first, and ethno-religion is just the excuse they settled on to gain broader support for their colonialist project.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
It's an ethno-nationalist religion. I don't think the secular jews are behind it.
sleepinggreenidea
Plenty are. And this also ignores the racial dynamics *within* the Israeli Jewish population; not all Jews are created equal...
MoonAmericanFloydHeywoodR
Palm Trees? They've been destroying people's HOMES in the West Bank for decades. Israel claims it needs to site for security, then gives the residents as little as 45 minutes to permanent leave the home their family may have lived in for generations. A bulldozer then demolishes the house. Standard practice since the 1990s.
wabitgirl
Since 1948, you mean
MoonAmericanFloydHeywoodR
It's a policy following up on Israeli's decision in 1977 to start build permanent settlements in the occupied West Bank. Until the Menachem Begin conservative government was elected, Israel did not see the West Bank as permanently theirs. The primary nature of Israel changed as right wing fundamentalists were replacing progressives in governmental and religious life.
FnordGallop
Israel took the West Bank from Jordan in 1967. The west bank was part of Jordan between 1948 and 1967 after it was absorbed during their 1948 invasion of Israel.
MoonAmericanFloydHeywoodR
Here's a protest in my hometown (Louisville, Ky. USA) about 20 years ago.
wabitgirl
Since 1967 then
FnordGallop
I think we can agree that Israel should give the West Bank back to Jordan.
daromander
If Israel annexing the West Bank is illegal then why would you agree with Jordan annexing it?
wabitgirl
...Why is the concept of giving it to the people who have lived there, who are a separate people from any of the surrounding countries, such a hard thing to conceptualize? Fuck, we did it for Israel and they weren't even living there at the time. Just give them a piece of sovereign fuckin land and leave them the hell alone.
Doompug
Jiordan officially denounced their rights to the west bank jut like Egypt did for Gaza. They dont want it.