Nov 18, 2016 11:22 PM
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nonamejanie
He warned them. He did what he could. This breaks my heart.
amillionants
I've been studying the challenger and that man yelled to stop the launch even showing evidence that It would fail if launched
TheDaharMaster
See that 3-tailed smoke trail? That's the cockpit.
TotallyNotSarcastic
On My birthday...
NSAA360
super sad :(
happyboz
The hardest , most difficult undertaking ever accomplished by man was a shuttle launch...one man can't possibly carry that much weight
Kamekami23
They did everything they could. They brought data to back up their concerns and talked to all the right people to stop the launch.
MycolTheFunguy
Columbia will Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis and All Challengers will be destroyed
theimgurappsucksballs
I watched this live, was really scary and sad
PedanticAsshat
... and he blames God, which is dumb.
CPatricoo
He doesnt. He blames himself.
YeahICanHearYouClemFandango
Ugh... that's heartbreaking. Bob didn't fail, the entire system did. Every team member is responsible for a successful launch. Poor guy.
codehooligans
I still remember the day I heard it on the radio.
Stanistani
"Mason finally turned to Bob Lund and said, 'Take off your engineering hat and put on your management hat.'" - That sentenced seven to die.
Mimsey
This actually sums up EVERYTHING wrong in society. Too many people concerned with personal politics over reality and results.
Source: http://www.analytictech.com/mb021/shuttle1.htm
TotallyNotOffensiveName
I went to a small charter school in central PA named after the teacher, Christa McAuliffe who died in that mission. Awesome school, (1)
(2) called McAuliffe Heights.
barrettsmithbb
Sad thing is they had all the data before it happened. It was the engineer's inability to show the data effectively.
Turner78
Here: http://www.analytictech.com/mb021/shuttle1.htm
No, that is not correct. They had no data showing the o rings performance in temperatures under 50F.
As an engineer you can identify trends without all the data.
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
to an idiot manager that wanted the launch to go ahead regardless of the risks.
And present manager with the table, "look at the risk!!"
Dayrest
Group think. That's what caused the launch. He was basically told to shut up and be a team player.
Most of his team agreed with him. This was purely management overruling everyone under them and forcing the launch.
KnightHospitallar
Most government organizations are run this way, it's extremely unfortunate
Doumdidoum
It was a private company tho
NASA got the final say on the launch though their the ones that made the ultimate decision
PunJedi
The real losers would be the folks who pushed the launch ahead, yet possibly knowing that there was a fatal flaw in the gasket.
SederHishtalshelus
Not entirely his fault
Urgalicity
This is what "initiative" gets you. Damned business culture
minerhole
If I'm not mistaken its very common for engineers to give the worst case possibility and its either do it or never. Either way,its a tragedy
ButterfaceTaintClown
Well, the real losers were those who died and their families. But yeah, guilt is cruel punishment.
The engineers had data proving the unreliability of the rings at the temp they were launching at. They predicted it would blow on the ground
When it made it off the ground they thought maybe a miracle happened but then it did what it did.
FirstThingThatCameToMind
"If its stupid and it works, its not- oh, OH, OH FUCK"
MyFirstTwoChoicesWereTaken
Why would they go through with the launch if they knew there was problems?
SmallTownBigAdventure
Egotistical jackass, org politics, guy said "what you mean I can only fly five months out of the year?" Seven dead 71 seconds later.
It's just disgusting that they knew about it but launched it anyways.
Customer says "WTF, I can only fly this thing five months out of the year? We're gonna launch NOW. *KAPOW*"
And Morton Thiokol shit all over that dude after the fact for trying to stop them.
NiceLegsDaisyDukesMakesAMAAANOUTOFYOOOUUUU
I watched the movie-doc they made on that. Tore me the fuck up inside.
dviking
I think four of the astronauts actually survived the explosion, as there is evidence that they used their emergency oxygen tanks...
and controls had been moved, such that an explosion wouldn't move them. They did not, however, survive the impact when the crew...
compartment hit the ground.
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
You are correct. (just confirming in case anyone wonders if it is true)
DefinitelyNotAPeanut
Saved me a Google.
nonamejanie
He warned them. He did what he could. This breaks my heart.
amillionants
I've been studying the challenger and that man yelled to stop the launch even showing evidence that It would fail if launched
TheDaharMaster
See that 3-tailed smoke trail? That's the cockpit.
TotallyNotSarcastic
On My birthday...
NSAA360
super sad :(
happyboz
The hardest , most difficult undertaking ever accomplished by man was a shuttle launch...one man can't possibly carry that much weight
Kamekami23
They did everything they could. They brought data to back up their concerns and talked to all the right people to stop the launch.
MycolTheFunguy
Columbia will Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis and All Challengers will be destroyed
theimgurappsucksballs
I watched this live, was really scary and sad
PedanticAsshat
... and he blames God, which is dumb.
CPatricoo
He doesnt. He blames himself.
YeahICanHearYouClemFandango
Ugh... that's heartbreaking. Bob didn't fail, the entire system did. Every team member is responsible for a successful launch. Poor guy.
codehooligans
I still remember the day I heard it on the radio.
Stanistani
"Mason finally turned to Bob Lund and said, 'Take off your engineering hat and put on your management hat.'" - That sentenced seven to die.
Mimsey
This actually sums up EVERYTHING wrong in society. Too many people concerned with personal politics over reality and results.
Stanistani
Source: http://www.analytictech.com/mb021/shuttle1.htm
TotallyNotOffensiveName
I went to a small charter school in central PA named after the teacher, Christa McAuliffe who died in that mission. Awesome school, (1)
TotallyNotOffensiveName
(2) called McAuliffe Heights.
barrettsmithbb
Sad thing is they had all the data before it happened. It was the engineer's inability to show the data effectively.
Turner78
Here: http://www.analytictech.com/mb021/shuttle1.htm
Turner78
No, that is not correct. They had no data showing the o rings performance in temperatures under 50F.
barrettsmithbb
As an engineer you can identify trends without all the data.
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
to an idiot manager that wanted the launch to go ahead regardless of the risks.
barrettsmithbb
And present manager with the table, "look at the risk!!"
Dayrest
Group think. That's what caused the launch. He was basically told to shut up and be a team player.
Mimsey
Most of his team agreed with him. This was purely management overruling everyone under them and forcing the launch.
KnightHospitallar
Most government organizations are run this way, it's extremely unfortunate
Doumdidoum
It was a private company tho
KnightHospitallar
NASA got the final say on the launch though their the ones that made the ultimate decision
PunJedi
The real losers would be the folks who pushed the launch ahead, yet possibly knowing that there was a fatal flaw in the gasket.
SederHishtalshelus
Not entirely his fault
Urgalicity
This is what "initiative" gets you. Damned business culture
minerhole
If I'm not mistaken its very common for engineers to give the worst case possibility and its either do it or never. Either way,its a tragedy
ButterfaceTaintClown
Well, the real losers were those who died and their families. But yeah, guilt is cruel punishment.
Kamekami23
The engineers had data proving the unreliability of the rings at the temp they were launching at. They predicted it would blow on the ground
Kamekami23
When it made it off the ground they thought maybe a miracle happened but then it did what it did.
FirstThingThatCameToMind
"If its stupid and it works, its not- oh, OH, OH FUCK"
MyFirstTwoChoicesWereTaken
Why would they go through with the launch if they knew there was problems?
SmallTownBigAdventure
Egotistical jackass, org politics, guy said "what you mean I can only fly five months out of the year?" Seven dead 71 seconds later.
SoleSurvivorr
It's just disgusting that they knew about it but launched it anyways.
SmallTownBigAdventure
Customer says "WTF, I can only fly this thing five months out of the year? We're gonna launch NOW. *KAPOW*"
SmallTownBigAdventure
And Morton Thiokol shit all over that dude after the fact for trying to stop them.
NiceLegsDaisyDukesMakesAMAAANOUTOFYOOOUUUU
I watched the movie-doc they made on that. Tore me the fuck up inside.
dviking
I think four of the astronauts actually survived the explosion, as there is evidence that they used their emergency oxygen tanks...
dviking
and controls had been moved, such that an explosion wouldn't move them. They did not, however, survive the impact when the crew...
dviking
compartment hit the ground.
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
You are correct. (just confirming in case anyone wonders if it is true)
DefinitelyNotAPeanut
Saved me a Google.