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Jul 18, 2017 12:16 AM
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HippDeutschMan
That headline is really insane!
MaxlRose
Link?
brigibutton
Sad thing is that Mpls just enforced their body cam policy and neither of those police officers had theirs on at the time.
IamJustinSane
That's why you should never call 911 or try to help people in distress; because the cops just shoot the first person they see. Wait, what?
sprbwlshuffler
The headline is confusing. It's written in a fashion that makes it sound like HE was shot through his squad car door after he shot her.
jerbtaker
Article written by a 10 year old.
nuke034
I have no idea how that could even happen, even just taking as the headline makes it seem I'm confused as shit.
chipstone7
Seems he heard a noise and fired his weapon from within the car. Scared shitless coward who panicked. Charge him with murder
maniacalmacaroni
"People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." If you give them lethal weapons, they will become lethal.
JJ2078
Two years experience should be more than enough to learn not to shoot people that aren't a threat.
Affray
I've been a cop for exactly zero years and I'm pretty sure I have that one down pat.
gorillaClutch
I'm sure he'll just resign and move a town or two over then get rehired by another dept
AlmostScientist
TFW this whole time you were saying officers need better education and training but nobody listens.
dietderpsy
America needs to learn some Irish policing.
TrapsAreIllegal
Dude, if they don't jail him, wtf
XxVenatusxX
OK1s
MapToTheCrunch
I've been binge-watching Forensic Files so I can say with the utmost certainty that this is..... suspicious.
SkeletorXD
Only in America. You call the cops and they shoot you. Then the intruder files a lawsuit against you for Stubbing his toe In your house.
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yifin
I know they actually got it right this time but could we stop trusting the daily fucking mail? They do no original content.
peepeepoopoocaca
This guy is a fucking murderer. How the fuck does that happen without knowing what you're doing these people give cops a bad name
CrazyInsaneCook
Why not make the product with a plastic net large enough for wasps but small enough to keep birdies out o.o
corbynDallas
I was actually thinking this, when I saw that sticky post
elfTastic
Lol you swiped
Krono562
This is not the post you are looking for
derpaderps
this is my favorite comment here
CrazyInsaneCook
Not going to lie this was the best mistake of my life.
stephenHawkingSchoolOfDance
My mum used to say that about me until she accidentally put maple syrup in her flapjacks
SatansCheesecake
This certainly would be a solution to the gun problem
channyfanny
This is amazing.
pandemicpete
(Three days grace plays) let's start a riot!
topshelfassistant
It doesn't matter what color they are, their ethnic group, their sex, nothing, killing anyone in this manner is just wrong
helgasinclair
Minnesotan here, I know that Australians are pissed, but does anyone know if Australia has the means for diplomatic recourse?
helgasinclair
Context for the question: I know some countries actually put out travel warnings for the US for reasons like this and want more info
randomfan276
Aussie here: tbh, we're a small, isolated country so we rely on the US being our friend. Doubt anything will happen other than asking for 1
randomfan276
a thorough investigation. 2/2
GadenKerensky
Australian here; first I've heard of it, not really sure there's gonna be any diplomatic talks other than 'fix yo shit'. But that's me.
DontDoWhatDonaldDontDoes
The news keeps saying "how could this have happened?"... really? It's happened every other week for the last several years!
chipstone7
Let me guess. He was way too cowardly to be a cop and under pressure he killed someone. Might explain a lot of cop shootings.
upvotehypnotoad
Id give him a sliver of credit except he just blasted her as she walked up to the cruiser window. Gonna be interesting to see how BLM reacts
Sageypie
He didn't blast her while she was walking up. She was already talking to the cop in the driver seat and had been for a bit.
upvotehypnotoad
Even worse
therearenotenoughusernames
That doesn't seem to be the case here. There was no pressure. No threat. She was in pajamas! It doesn't make sense. Somethings fucky
TheFlyingSheep
The sight of a blond woman intimidated him. After all she could have had a concealed weapon on her. You know how scary women in pj's are /s
rebelwithoutacosbysweater
Classic Prezbylewski.
CaptGunpowder
This is why I always say "fuck no" to vacations or trips through the states.
CaptGunpowder
Hey, how about instead of downvoting, you try to make your country a little less fucked-to-the-nines
bulletproofsam92
Not only was his bodycam off, his partner's bodycam and the dashcam were turned off as well.
Miko642
Pretty sure they have a state requirement to have the cameras on 24/7 ?
BrightStarEm
Were they stalking her or something, seems soo weird
Souljah42
Fucking awfully convienant.
Char92
Dash cam wasn't turned off. It just didn't catch what happened since it doesn't point backwards
puddlewalker
News reports I've heard over the last two days is that it was.
puddlewalker
(Yesterday afternoon and this morning in aus)
VigorousButtstuff
A news agency wouldn't just tell lies, would it?
MrShoez
From what I've read, that agency's policy it to turn the body cams on when exiting the vehicle.
Silliosophical
It might have to change to auto-turn-body-cams-on once arriving at the destination, whether or not they exited the vehicle. Fuck loopholes.
MrShoez
And being seated in a car, body cam footage probably would be as useful as the dash cam footage.
SmellOfMonkey
Read that as exciting the vehicle
thedarkcanuck
I can't turn off the company installed dash cam on my semi truck, why can they turn off their dash/body cams?
xcelita
They don't want the body cam catching them taking a piss or changing or something.
BulletAnt93
Because you work for a privately owned company that will be held liable by the government for damages their employees cause... Oh wait...
Tk842
They can turn the body cams off, most in car cams are triggered when the red and blues are on.
EroticZombiePants
Because the police doesn't want stuff being recorded, so 98% of the time, the cams conveniently are off or don't work.
BiologicallyHazardousMaterial
I wish i could be as happily deluded as you are with the police
Affray
Why would you wish to be deluded by/with anything ever? Knowledge is power my friend.
dirtcreature
Bc they only turn them on for incidents bc they don't have massive batteries. Also, the taxpayers can't afford to store gigs of video...
dirtcreature
From every cop every day. Why it wasn't on in this incident is the question.
Silliosophical
The cops in question clearly didn't follow protocol (didn't even turn on body cams after, much less before). Mega-failure atop a tragedy.
TheMadMason
Cause they make the laws. Nothing pertains to them. Cellphone law in CA? Yea only for citizens. They don't have to do much.
BiologicallyHazardousMaterial
Honestly i trust a cop with a cell phone over anyone else. Except taxi or truck drivers
GQPisadeathcult
Cops make the laws!??
DumpoldRant
They choose which laws to enforce based on their interpretations of them.
somethingsomethingdadpun
But he's not white... and she is! I'm so confused!
aesthesia1
I know you're being pedantic, but it is incredibly rare that a white woman gets shot by police even if she's actually shooting at them.
superdinglebudgie
It's the land down under where everything is topsy turvy. Up is down, left is right.
Zenkyai
It was in America you twat
superdinglebudgie
Exactly. It's Trumpland! Everything is backwards. xD
diablosword
He's blue.
HeIIYeah
Dabadedabadie
HateMeFuckYou
Its not America. Common sense rules apply.
aesthesia1
This happdned in america
Girlgerms21
Um yes it is. She was from Australia living in America
HateMeFuckYou
What can I say? I saw a tagline for an Aussie paper.
LittleLordThudleroy
Everything's upside down in Australia
DragonDildoChandelier
upvotehypnotoad
Except this was in Minneapolis
reaper8891
Except she was in murica.. if it was australia there wouldnt have been a gutless cop firing his gun at all. Australians arent scared of PJs.
goatfkersdidnothingwrong
#whitelivesmatter
reaper8891
#Australianlivesmatter
HolUpSoYouSayin
So do white people get to have riots now?
nolittleplans
Nope nothing scarier on planet Earth than when white people.gather to hate something.......nothing
HeeeyBrother
I can see the "That's not very Rock n Roll of you" signs
herny
Yes, Starbucks only though
TheMadMason
Ah cool, need a phrap anyways!
Rookthebaggins
No no, you trash all stores except Starbucks
mdkradSmuggler
Yes, but you simply must RSVP first
betrothedtobacon
Well it's not America sooooo
IamTheBanHamer
But it is.
welpthatdidntwork
Def is America
betrothedtobacon
Oh I assumed it was Australia from the description, but I guess the murderer wasn't nature itself so it can't be Australia
welpthatdidntwork
Minnesota if I remember right
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betrothedtobacon
Got it, thanks for the reconfirmation
sureasyourebornyourenevergoingtoseenounicorn
It's almost as though this indicates a trend that police need different trainings to help prevent these tragedies
OweMiGurd
More guns
causality
Police should be subject to at least the same rules of engagement as soldiers.
heyrelaxfellayouneedarestguy
Rules of engagement were constantly changing when I was in. At one point anyone with a cell phone was fair game to light up. Careful there
causality
Still stricter than shooting someone with empty hands in the back.
Scandeliciously
Almost...
Bulbasaurismyhomeboy
That can't be right
bigdaddyfatpants
It was mistress.
guardianangel0
Not only training but held accountable for such actions
fake40nedeso
Well, no, else nobody would sign up anymore...
LordOfTheRingDings
If a person is stopped from joining the police by the idea that they might face consequences for wrongdoing, THEY SHOULDN'T BE A FUCKING COP
Sifi7
Ok, this seems to be more than a freak out though.
Silliosophical
I agree. This isn't even a freak out situation. She called them & was talking to the cop driver. Not scary. Wth happened?
Tk842
Thats a good question. Especially to shoot across his partner.
Silliosophical
Everything about this is wildly improbable. No cop-killing-an-innocent story fits this at all (except the f'ing terrible part).
Tk842
Right? Like no matter how scared I cannot see even a first day rookie shooting across his partners lap.
theguybehindtheguybehindtheguy
No Blue lives matter. She shouldn't have been walking around like a human being
Violetsdyed
Well, don't call 911 and you won't get shot.
crepy2050
That's what I learned
fake40nedeso
Thank you!
Thellluminati
OR, 99.9% of cops act appropriately in these situations. No amount of training is going to change or mitigate the risk. And, the only reason
theguyinthebackoftheambulance
jrgorAwardRunner
Actually pretty damn correct, 1000 police killings, at least 800,000 police. So at worst 99.875% don't do this
sexconker
I wouldn't even believe 19.9%.
Thellluminati
so.. 80.1% of cops discharge their weapons and kill people? are you stupid? do you at all know what the stats say? Or are you just one of
Thellluminati
the mob hating assholes? clearly you can't think for yourself.
HiddenSanity
Just saying, There's a wide breadth of territory between 'appropriate' and 'murder'
Thellluminati
we think this is so prevalent is because the news networks found out we eat it up that they nonstop report on it.
wallaceericson
"This is unavoidable" says america. "WTF" says the rest of the world.
causality
Or the fact people finally carry around cameras all the time to prove it happens.
Thellluminati
Did someone record this with a cell phone? or most other LEO shootings? no, But in the past there has been a respect given to all LEOs that
Thellluminati
The news, in general, didn't pick up on the reports. Now, however, there is this fostered hatred of LEOs that people eat up any chance they
causality
Most LEO shootings that get prosecuted are recorded.
IvanTnavI
Can't over generalize this incident and say oh they need training .. cops who murder don't need more training they need to be prosecuted
HighlySexualLobster
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/do-not-resist-and-the-crisis-of-police-militarization
fuckyouimatank
While this situation seems clear cut, increasing training in how to de-escalate and safely approach dangerous situations would save lives
IvanTnavI
They are already trained! stop giving excuses they choose to be aggressive continue to find BS excuses and the behavior will not stop
fuckyouimatank
Sorry, I meant the original training was shitty not to excuse current behaviour. I fully believe in greater consequences for this behaviour.
IvanTnavI
Their behavior stems from cop culture protecting their own during bad behavior cops who do speak out get excommunicated read up on it
ImHereToPissPeopleOff
So you would rather more accidents happen than require more training? Literally nothing bad can come from it
IvanTnavI
Police have a training program already your misguided notion to equate criminal behavior with an accident reread this incident its murder
IvanTnavI
Again you over generalize cops have a robust training programming and gun recertification program they don't get a badge till they PASS!
memelordnito
Poor training is a common thing in smaller departments.
cas86
From an article I read, he also shot across his partner sitting next to him
TheMostHumbleManInTheWorld
Duh, it said Australian woman.. everything is upside down and backwards.
bunneez
mate...
SonOfKazar
Mawp! Mawp!
alpacasaurusrex
iCanToteIt
Sauce?
Sheptard
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/07/17/mpd-officer-shot-woman-identified/
gingen
I'm pretty pissed this happened in my State. I mean...I'd be pissed if it happened anywhere but more so in my own fucking State...
Sheptard
I feel you on that one neighbor. Minnesota nice my ass
gingen
I've always been convinced that "Minnesota Nice" is more sarcastic than real. I'd still prefer to live in MN overall though if I'm honest.
Cultistchan
I really hope his partner kicked his ass for that bone headed action.
Wuz314159
... Through the driver's door
SpaceISIS
don't most squad cars have bullet-proof plates in the doors?
heyrelaxfellayouneedarestguy
No
Tk842
Yes, but im sure he fired thru the window.
Stinkdog
He did fire through the window
sharK11
Are windows even real?
d0o0o0d
It used to be an option (not all departments got it) on Crown Victoria Interceptors, but I dunno about the newer models.
Wuz314159
I don't have an answer for you. I doubt patrol cars are tanks. . . "Through the door" could mean 'window'. idk
Tk842
There are ballistic plates in the doors, usually, thick enough to stop small caliber rifle and hand gun ammo.
Stinkdog
Window according to the BBC article I read