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So, I kept doing the thing!...still
Just another update on my project from a few weeks back.
A few weeks ago I showed you guys the cleaning products I had formulated. These is my babies.
My day job is as a formulation chemist and a R&D Technician for a large company. I make, test, formulate, develop, etc household fragrances, candles, cleaning products and more.
On the cleaning chemical side...hardly anything is green and EVERYTHING generates waste. It made me sad.
I started with some prototypes, and you guys showed me a lot of love
I made fragrance and color free cleaning chemicals that were stronger and greener than most chemicals in the stores.
My window, dish, all purpose and degreaser.
I packaged them...shittily
My shitty prototypes brought you guys to the yard and they were like...everyone's better than yours...
Screw it, you guys showed me a BUNCH of encouragement.
I kept on with my shittastic prototypes
I'm still working with packaging at the moment, but that's going to all clear up once my kickstarter funds come through.
I started designing packaging
After getting some legal lockdown I started packaging up my products into envelopes. These tiny ketchup packets of cleaners make a sixteen ounce bottle. You tear open, add two cups or 430g of water to your bottle, or just add the chemical then top it off if you have a correct sized bottle. This is 1.5g of plastic per packet versus the 100+g in a plastic bottle and trigger sprayer. It all comes with your labels, safety data, and a little pair of gloves if you have sensitive skin!
Those guys working on trash traps for the ocean will have a lot easier of a job if we can stop adding to the mess.
I had some more ideas
Biodegradable COMPOSTABLE sponges that don't use bleaching, colors or chemicals to process. Loofah...Love my Loofah.
Neat fact: Did you know they can't recycle trigger sprayers? Too many types of plastic and metal bits to go through the machines. They end up in landfills :< Reuse one. They last forever.
More shitty prototypes and shitty layouts
We tried so hard making things look nice and clean
Finito!
We're almost there. We're working on getting a better plastic for the packets and have it come printed to save money
We sent out some sample kits
People LOVED them. We were thrilled...no more reformulating on my part!
We took pictures.
We got our asses a logo
Look us up on facebook? Keep an eye out for our indiegogo coming soon?
Cat tax?
I put my cat in an owl costume...She enjoyed it.
https://www.facebook.com/EcoChemSupply/ Give our facebook some sugar?
FerretBomb
Loofahs make craptastic sponges. Scourers? Fine. Sponges? HELL no.
FLATHERT
About the trigger sprayers lasting forever: I ran one over with a car yesterday. It's not going to make it.
SexyClaptrap
Gimme.
nemorodriguez
I'm a freelance animator - if and when you have a marketing budget I'd love to make you a kick-ass advert or explainer video. Great job!
CyoCyo
Like us on Facebook, we'll figure something out
micahJSR
yeah well, i did my taxes all by myself. this is cool tho. ill look into it when im not broke.
lililand
You can do your own taxes? Genius! +1
viking15
I bought of the sample kits! Shittily packed and all, it wad awesome. Looking forward to the kickstarter
SexyClaptrap
Oh and @OP... A dryer sheet replacement that doesn't cause cancer. I use Dr. mercola wool balls right now
CyoCyo
Working on it, actually
NOINOON
Sweet, but work on the logo. This one communicates toxic waste and nukes.
CyoCyo
We only really use the middle part
jumboCommunityBeast
Hey, are you still doing this, because I would love to get some of these products? I'm in the UK btw.
ErinFromTheOffice
I bet having access to cleaning supplies is really helpful when you sneeze, pee, shart, and start your period at the same time.
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EveryBodyLovesMe
No. No references, this lady has just had a really rough week.
CyoCyo
Touche'
alotofpot
Please read or listening to the book positioning. It's a fundamental marketing text. You have a great product but it must be positioned.
CyoCyo
This project was dropped
HalfPint13
And there wasn't any fallout from your employer? Since its a product for the same industry you'd think there would be issues.
pistachiomoustache
She already talked to her employer and got the okay. :3
CaptainBejesus
How do these compare to Ecolab products? Especially their marine ones? I'm asking for a..friend...yeah, a "friend"...
CyoCyo
I'm not comparing these to other products. Fun fact, if they didn't work, nobody'd sell them. I'm just touting green/cheap/effective/easy.
B4C0N22
Hey @OP @Cyocyo , you guys should make some real Bio toilet papers. Your idea is awesome im from Québec I want these stuffs right now
CyoCyo
It's called reusable toilet paper. It exists.
stumblingaroundinthedark
I agree with previous commenter - I thought it was EC CHEM. You need to make that atom more like an O. But upvotes for your green efforts!
CyoCyo
it's the shit printer. The T-shirts came out great.
Cassandralala
Did you hire a designer to do the logo? As a designer, the branding makes a huge difference in how your product is received.
xXWhiteSheepXx
IMO it would look more distinguished and like an "O" if you just bold the lines of the atom a bit more to clarify it. Good luck! :)
ashmenon
Unfortunately even in the logo sample you showed it looks a bit like EC CHEM (or EC*CHEM). Anyone reading it will figure it out in a bit >>
ashmenon
but since you're still in the early phases of branding it might be something you want to look at :)
Solaralyn
Any chance of making a clothing detergent sans optical brighteners? Might be a huge market if you can do it cheaply. Military uniforms (1)
Solaralyn
Have to b washed in detergent without optical brighteners and the stuff on the markets these days are stupidly expensive. Just an idea (2)
nacko
Cheer and Charlie's Laundry Soap laundry powders both lack optical brighteners or oxygen bleach and are quite inexpensive. Good for colors.
CyoCyo
It's already done
LondonMunchkin
Hey @OP - great job! loving the reduction of packaging. What are the other "green" creds? Are they less toxic? What's your sourcing policy?
CyoCyo
Locally purchased, nothing with an ld50 of under 3k
wikiwizard
No info on the website?
CyoCyo
Website is WIP. https://www.facebook.com/EcoChemSupply/ Enjoy for now.
beeratius
Hey so I've always wondered if it's true that most "biodegradable" plastics are actually not really biodegradable?
turbotricycle
Is it too late to get in on the kickstarter?
BobsYurUncle
So... Did you sign a piece of paper detailing that any invention you create while working for the company is then owned by the company?
CyoCyo
No. I'm contract. What is my own is my own. As long as it doesn't cover the realm of home fragrance then I'm clear. I also started this 1/2
CyoCyo
project before I accepted my current job.
BobsYurUncle
Well that's good. I have always felt that document was a dick move.
CyoCyo
Yeahhh....I learned my lesson after interviewing for a position with Dizznee
pistachiomoustache
I bought a sample! It leaked a bit, but it's still great! That degreaser will be mine!
MamaKin
Have you got a kickstarter or indiegogo account?
CyoCyo
Indiegogo coming soon
MamaKin
Wonderful. Please post an update, or preferably update by pm. This holds interest to persons such as myself.
CyoCyo
I don't have time to update all these people. We have twitter, instagram and facebook.;-;
krissinator
Just a little comment... your "welcome" in the mockup is spelled wrong.
CyoCyo
Oh, link, show me please!
CyoCyo
Yeah....and chemical and subscription.
idontknowyoufromadam
And refill ...
NurseCAT
And all purpose "clean"
krissinator
And subscription.
CyoCyo
and chemical....
CyoCyo
and in three months nobody has pointed that out. I just now noticed.
krissinator
No worries. It comes from staring too long at the same text. Your mind doesnt notice the errors. You just need a "fresh eyes" look sometimes
CyoCyo
It's okay, it didn't make our cut for final website design.
SineOfLife
Cold grease is tough, Tobacco stains. Silicon on glass. Would like to see cleaners for those. Coming from a 25 yr experienced Window Cleaner
SineOfLife
WE used Glass Gleam 2, Industry-leading and bio-safe, incredible cleaner. Has little to no effect with those examples however..
CyoCyo
We don't use silicone as it's not so environmentally friendly. We, instead, use polymers and micro active solvents
SineOfLife
Oh, i meant to say new windows have Silicon-applied labels on them. It leaves silicon on the glass, extremely difficult to remove..
SineOfLife
If you could devise a chemical other than Acetone (that etches glass) you'd be the richest man ever!
houstonhouston
It reads as ecchem to me. I'd suggest thickening the electron paths so it reads more like an o
clln86
Yeah, maybe just the one most vertical path so it stands out
noguyever
This is solid design advice.
RandomMagus
Oh, I thought it was just EC Chem...
illyca
Me too....
Wodenifferous
Me three.
PunchInTheDicker
Four
LadyMoto
Five. (Sorry)
DeliciousUsersubClubSandwich
OP gonna be rich AF
CyoCyo
Not counting on it.. I just want to make people more aware
ChuckNastyy
Use paper packs you can't really put eco in your name if you use plastic
butterbunns
I was wondering about the use of plastic as well. Its better than chucking a whole bottle though
CyoCyo
Post consumer. Also recyclable. I toyed with polymer coating but it was expensive and sweet tasting, which is bad for kids.
CyoCyo
Also, we're trying to source the plastic from corn
JJ717
But a paper packet would need a polymer liner to hold liquids... And multi-layer packets like that are less recyclable than all-plastic.
mediumsizedtittycommittee
Question: will these clean up large amounts of blood? Asking for a friend
Apeofdeath
Hydrogen Peroxide + Vinegar + Baking Soda (works for skunk juice also)
notme222
Well ... former friend, anyway.
mediumsizedtittycommittee
docweird
From the back seat of a car?
mediumsizedtittycommittee
jamesythe3rd
Harvey keitell is on his way
Agent
You killed your friend, didn't you?
mediumsizedtittycommittee
Not trusting you with that username...
CyoCyo
Probably, but I would recommend a cleaner with protease. Enzymes work the best. Also, watch out for optical brighteners. Dead giveaway.
PolarHailStorm
Is it possible to dunk my hand in one of your chemicals and then punch someone so hard their own fingerprints dissolve?
OfMarblesAndBaubles
Yes.
Faifie
Stuff like this is why we need to be able to favorite comments
ThePenguinKnight
https://youtu.be/nZcRU0Op5P4
INeedFakeLove
You frighten me
Th3Revanchist
You're doing me a frighten
h0d0r
"Dead" giveaway...
Efreeti
My neighbour's got big testicles 'cause we see this dude EVERY day.
MyDentistCallsMeSimba
Reduction in plastic = awesome! Are the chemicals used less toxic than those in regular cleaners as well?
CyoCyo
Yep
viking15
I asked them about it a while back, and the response was something like, my kid would have to eat the whole package of concentrate, plus
viking15
Lock the pack, and then go find several more grams just to get sudsy poop.
CyoCyo
Thanks viking15. I'll have a physician analyze toxicity to verify this
randomgibberish
Will you be shipping internationally? (Ie Canada)
viking15
Not op, but on their Facebook they said they were working on it!
CyoCyo
We're good for it, I have a French speaking PhD willing to do labeling
CyoCyo
Yes
randomgibberish
Sweeeeet
DrPepperWho
@OP where are you based out of? I have a good friend who runs franchises of a commercial janitorial company based in the US. Message me.
pistachiomoustache
She is based in California. :3
CyoCyo
Not interested. I got out of that market already. It's soul killing
DrPepperWho
Hahaha! Not a problem. Wasn't sure if you'd be interested in supplying it or not, the company is ridiculously amazing.
CyoCyo
Thanks, but years in janitorial made me hate the industry. Also,giving anyone the ability to contact your chemist directly suuuucks