"Why does anyone even LIVE where there are tornadoes?"

Jul 4, 2017 5:30 AM

kootiepatra

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^ This is why people live where there are tornadoes.

Tornadoes can happen basically anywhere that has weather. They have been recorded in all fifty U.S. states, and on every continent except Antarctica (https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology). However, a wide swathe of the central and southern continental U.S. are particularly prone to getting them. This area is called “Tornado Alley”. It has no technically defined boundary, but under its smallest definition, it includes part or all of six U.S. states, and under its biggest definition, it’s a region that stretches “from central Texas to the Canadian prairies and from eastern Colorado to western Pennsylvania.” https://www.si.edu/Content/SE/Educator%20Guides/Tornado_EdGuide_R5.pdf

So just “not living there”—let’s say that *only* includes Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma—means vacating an area bigger than Germany and Poland combined. And that’s if we’re assuming the tiniest possible definition of Tornado Alley.

Additionally, even though the United States gets plenty of tornadoes every year--the NOAA averages it to 1253 tornadoes annually, most of those taking place in Tornado Alley (https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology) --getting *hit* by a tornado is relatively rare. The above map covers *56 years* of recorded tornado tracks, and even in the densest regions, there are still untouched pockets of land. I know the map still looks pretty blue, but keep in mind...

Consider the size of tornadoes: while at their most monstrous they can be a mile or bigger across, the vast majority of them are much smaller. The tiniest ones are as narrow as a few meters in width. The average, according to Wikipedia, is about 500ft (152m) across. Tornadoes’ paths are fairly unpredictable, and their track on the ground can be miles long, or very brief--even intermittent, making more than one touch down before dissipating.

Even then, not all tornadoes are powerful enough to destroy buildings. About 88 percent of tornadoes are an EF1 or weaker (https://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/20130726-1456-20490-4099/fema_p_431.pdf), meaning that the majority of tornadoes will only do relatively minor damage—trees, power lines, signs, etc., potentially damaging buildings, but generally not directly destroying them. Well, unless that building is a trailer, which is only sort of a building.

The upshot? Tornado Alley, depending on how you calculate it, is a few hundred thousand square miles of land, a lot of which is lightly-inhabited farmland or grazing land. The likelihood of a tornado landing on your house in particular is quite small. The likelihood of that tornado being strong enough to destroy your (non-trailer) house is even smaller. The vast majority of people who live in Tornado Alley go their entire lives without ever being directly in the path of a destructive tornado (and we like it that way).

This means that living in a tornado-prone area is a lot different than living in, say, a hurricane or flood-prone area. If you’re in a floodplain, your neighborhood *will* flood if the local water source overflows its banks. If you’re in a hurricane-prone area, your house *will* get hit by a hurricane at some point; it’s just a matter of how bad it is when it happens. If you’re in Tornado Alley, your house *might* get hit by a tornado in your lifetime, if you’re really unlucky.

(Obviously tornadoes can be VASTLY more severe than the one pictured above, but the point is: it's super unpredictable. Living in Kansas does not guarantee you a ticket to Oz, even if you live right across the road from Dorothy and Toto.)

People like living in alleys

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I get asked why I live in California because of earthquakes. I tell them after a while you just learn to shake it off #earthquake#california

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Map is a few decades old. Be interestingly to find out if the footprint has evolved over the last 20+ years.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

#1 Because it's half the fucking country, that's why.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

"Tornados can happen anywhere" *Utah laughs*

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I live in tornado alley and never even seen a tornado

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Why dose anyone live where there is fire?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why don't they build underground? My friend wants to know.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Could be a few things, here in Oklahoma it's a combination of the clay soil and that many parts of the state are on a flood plain.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Tornadoes do happen worldwide, but 3/4 of them happen in the US. It's almost like we built the country on ancient indian burial sites...

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

I'm from Nebraska and would like to remind people that the center of the country also produces most of the food, that's why we live here.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well it's either take our chances with a tornado here and there on the east coast or deal with earthquakes,mudslides and drought on the west

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Tornadoes are nature's way of keeping earthquakes and tidal waves away.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Tectonic plates don't give a fuck about tornadoes.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

As someone who's lived in Missouri their whole life, tornadoes really aren't seen as a big deal around here.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I still remember helping in Joplin... Hearing people finding pieces of the hospital hours away in corn fields .

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Joplin was bad, it just hit so quick.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hm. Perhaps the best place to live is next to a volcano. Those only active like once every thousand years....

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah, i guess if theres already one another isnt going to sprout. Probably... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parícutin

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Could build a bitchin' suburb full of doom houses like villain lairs.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have 100% ignored tornado sirens. I'm not always smart, obviously.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Or alive for much longer

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Me too, but only because they test them every wednesday at noon.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

ANY question that resolves down to "Why don't you just move?" is dumb as fuck. Have an upvote for answering.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

If Walt Disney can put a multi million theme park in the middle of the red, I think my happy ass will be fine

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

There's this one area in Moore, OK that gets ripped to shreds every 5 years or so, I always wonder why they don't just build hobbit holes

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Flood plains.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hey, that's where I live, and its because it's expensive to dig in Oklahoma.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That sweet, sweet red clay :|

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The United Kingdom has the most tornadoes per unit area. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Maybe, but how often do they reach F2 or greater?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yea, but does it have a cool name like Tornado Alley?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

A New England blizzard might shut down the city and be a bitch to clean but it's not gonna throw a cow through my roof so I'll take it

8 years ago | Likes 288 Dislikes 4

We get tons of flooding, millions in damages in my area just this weekend

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you live in central MA you get tornadoes in the summer and blizzards in the winter.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Here in Minnesota we get both!

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Vegas baby! The worst we deal with is some flash flooding during monsoon season (late summer) & most of that is outside the valley

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well that’s why we by law in Kansas have to install 50 year cow resistant shingles.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

http://imgur.com/cBurnIc

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

We've got cows.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cow... Another cow... I think that's the same cow

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You notice that orange spot right in the middle of Massachusetts? https://youtu.be/SSPMOoAEys8 (nsfw language)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Might get a tree tho

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you live in Chicago, you have opportunities for both but at least no hurricanes.

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

It's not the tornadoes we have to avoid in chicago

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Pewpewpew

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I live in the joliet area and a friend of mine I know from Latvia likes to call Chicago, and I shit you not, "Catchabullet Town"

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Wow are you sure you're not shitting me........

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*checks underwear* ah shit!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well that's damn well clever lol

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nor' Eastah, bub. Better get the milk and bread!

8 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:31 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Emergency French toast!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Always the first to go.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Make your milk sandwiches.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bless this post. I've seen people blame victims of tornadoes just because they lived where one formed or "their houses are too weak"...

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Remember hurricane katrina? So many people blaming the citizens for living in New Orleans

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I'd only blame people who get hurt while trying to film it

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Most of the people who get hurt trying to film them are scientists, whose films and data advance our knowledge of tornadoes.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's understandable, and it's commendable work, but it's still a risky situation they are voluntarily entering

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Living anywhere in the US means one of the following. Tornados, earthquakes, floods, blizzards, Kardashians. Nowhere is safe.

8 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Florida gets all of the except blizzards. Plus hurricanes, wild fires and Florida man.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't forgot the hurricanes.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

You forgot wild fires.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Grew up in Louisiana, now live in California but somehow forgot hurricanes and wild fires. I blame Friday.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I live in a place more Kardashian prone than earthquake prone. I'm more scared of encountering one than the other

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Truth

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I live in Oklahoma. Its not really a big deal here. We think they're cool.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I live on a hill. During tornadoes I go up to our balcony and watch. Also it helps that while pathing is unpredictable, if you are not NE

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

of the tornado you will be fine

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Most people are born and raised there, and don't move because of family.

8 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 3

Thats literally the same with the rural area of almost every state. I know several people that have moved too Oklahoma City

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Really it's not bad! -Iowa

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

And maybe, just maybe, they like it there.

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

I've been to the Midwest and I find this hard to believe

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

North Midwesterner here- yeah, good education, large homes and land for reasonable price, 4 seasons, nice people.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why does anyone even live where there are earthquakes?

8 years ago | Likes 77 Dislikes 3

Because there is no prep. Do I have a bunch of water? Good. That's all I can do. Might as well live without ever worrying about the weather!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You can fucking see a tornado coming and take shelter or get out of the way. An earthquake is just *bam* the earth opens and swallows you.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because you can build to withstand them pretty easily. Plus, by their nature the more there are the smaller they are, so most are not a 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I live in Okinawa Japan. I don't even notice them unless they are over 5. Biggest I've had is 7. Not much dmg. We're built for it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's never warmer than 99F or colder than 65F at any point in the year. Mean job salary is $70k.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because earthquakes are fun. Like a little roller coaster. Plus where I am in CA a big quake wont fuck us up too badly.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

hey i hear Kentucky is nice. if you don't mind the tornadoes too

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because I like my martini shaken not stirred.

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Goddamn that's the classiest response i've ever heard to that question. Can I use it? I'm gonna use it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because the last time we had an earthquake worth talking about in CA, it was 1992. Meanwhile, tornado country gets em every year.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just live in australia, No major earthquakes, no major tornados...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Big deal. I went to school in the bay area, and on average we would get~3 per year big enough to be noticeable at all. I remember being 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Woken by one at like 3 in the morning because my bed was vibrating. A minute later I rolled over and went back to sleep. Wasn't even a 3/4

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or Oklahoma where there are tons of earthquakes on top of the tornados

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Conversation-worthy event. 99.9% of earthquakes are not a big deal

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why does anyone even live?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Why does anyone even?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why does anyone?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why does?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Why?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Or hurricanes? Or heat waves over 100° F?

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

It was 102 degrees in Salt Lake City Today. It was the coldest day this week.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

ᴏʀ sᴇᴀsᴏɴᴀʟ ᴅᴇᴘʀᴇssɪᴏɴ? ᴏʀ sᴘɪᴅᴇʀs?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

... or wildfires. We live there because the land was cheap/unoccupied, and now we're invested.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Here in VA we get it all. Even earthquakes

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I live where there are none of those.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A light rain will do me in, stupid weather

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why does anyone live? Am I right?

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

As a non-American: why do you build your houses out of cardboard?

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 10

We tried to make them out of bullets but that just made the tornadoes even more dangerous.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

brick is expensive and unnecessary in most cases

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh: ALL the houses are brick.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

in NH we have 300 year old houses still standing, we also have granite curbs in most bigger cities and those will last forever.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Newer mobulars are built to much higher standards and required to be tied into the ground. Older low-income trailer parks are what you see

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They still arent idealistic, but when placed on a permanent foundation, new modulars can last a very long time

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:31 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

That was fast, thank you

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Did you just make an entire post for a reply?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

dude has dedication, holy fuck

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I made two posts to try and avoid tl;dr. Published them both at the same time.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's really just a nice way of saying "Why do people live in Texas, Oklahoma, or Kansas?"

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Because most Americans would rather face death and destruction than admit they made a bad decision.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I would sympathize with that, if I had ever made a bad decision myself, but I clearly have not.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or Canada. We've had three tornado warnings near my parent's place in the last month.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a native Oklahoman, living in tornado alley, I've never seen a tornado in person. Probably bc I'm not outdoors when tornadoes are present

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I've lived near Seattle for two years and haven't seen a sasquatch yet. :-(

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well, go outside more often. Statistically, you're more likely to see Sasquatch if you increase the frequency of your outdoor adventures.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I can triple my chances just by sitting in my bathroom. 3 x 0.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

hey, don't forget norther Indiana and Illinois. we get a shit-ton of tornadoes too

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As a Kansan, I live like 35-40 miles from Greensburg. That was an interesting night, haha.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's ridiculous after almost 10 how that town is still a ghost town..

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Kansan here, there's a thing called basements that make this no big deal. You are more likely to be killed by a cow.

8 years ago | Likes 65 Dislikes 6

Last year we had a series of tornados here in Louisiana. One caused a lot of damage. I'll take a hurricane any day.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A lot of newer housing developments, especially in Oklahoma, don't have basements

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hello fellow kansan

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a Missourian, we are quite confident that you'll have better chances of being killed by a Kansas driver than a tornado. ????

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lol as a Kansas, my town hasn't had a major tornado touch down since the 70s inside city limits :)

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

A flying cow being thrown by a tornado?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Texan here. Most houses here don't have basements. We usually take cover in whatever room happens to be in the middle of the house.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

same thing here in Wisconsin. I see these pictures of houses in the south/great plains without basements and I wonder why the fuck they 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

don't have them. Yes, it adds cost, but it also is much safer in a tornado and you also add so much storage space to your house as well

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yep, and your basement can usually protect you from cows too if you're really paranoid.

8 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 0

Yeah, cows wont go down stairs.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

For now.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

haha

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I want to be protected from basements, so should I arm myself with a cow?

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