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vulturedoors
The big problem is that the law does not require any official cert, and there is no regulation of service vests, etc.
jdreamkiller2
I actually met the guy. Pretty cool dude. He works as a consultant to help increase accessibility in websites. Definitely knows his stuff.
Anarchduke
Its this sort of misleading information that bothers me. I have a service honey badger that is trained to approach people and murder them.
xrayx
Me: Who’s a good boooyyyy?! Service dog: Sir, Please step away from my human.
Evanrudeplz
Don't believe teen bullshit on Tumblr? Ok.
StarryPlough
The sort of thing people on the internet wring their hands over but will never actually happen to them
Ragnarok1030
Service dog/animal does not equal emotional support dog/animal..one is protected by law, the other..not so much.
thecrip
(1) Thanks for posting this, I’m disabled but don’t have a service dog yet. I know many who do and there are many mistruths
thecrip
(2) especially with the rise of support animals which are nothing like a service dog, completely different things
falcobird00
Owner loses control of dog, dog runs away unprompted and harasses a stranger. Yep, sounds like a well trained service dog to me.
blackrasputin
This is how antivaxxers spread. Dumb entitled middle class people with a blog posting things they know nothing about.
jolietjane
What's that Lassie? Timmy fell down a well? Fuck off, Lassie!
Kapi23
My old dog once came to me barking, very loudly and signaling me to a particular direction. Her puppy was bitten and bleeding heavily
MartianPudding
Even so though if one did come up to me I probably wouldn’t want to risk it in case this was one that was trained wrong like that
MartianPudding
And by ‘risk it’ I mean ignoring the dog and risking the possibility that a person is actually in trouble
archermanny
Molly Burke has some great videos about service dogs and so do Drew and Stella! Would recommend!
monkeywelder
But he is not an expert. He is a consumer that uses one.
HPCmonkey
He's an unusually involved user, but a healthy dose of skepticism is wise. Call a service or two that trains dogs to (in)validate.
tyrunn
"I have been involved in service dog legislations"
marsgoose
A REAL service dog is trained to perform open heart surgery right there on the spot if a person collapses.
BigBadBillyBoy
Don’t accept substitutes!
asmallcat
"Believe everything you see on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln, 1943. Also, how does this guy know her dog got rejected?
HPCmonkey
I think he meant the dog breed was rejected as being a viable service animal.
UnemployedInGreenland
The girl said so in the original post. "She was swatting him away and telling him to go away."
asmallcat
That was the person her dog went to go get (supposedly), not a certification person.
MeSeiden
I used to work at a zoo and legally we had to allow in service dogs and the number of totally bullshit ESAs was insane. 1/2
MeSeiden
While I was there we had an emotional support iguana, some chihuahuas (in cutesy clothes instead of vests), a boa, and a very upset cat 2/3
MeSeiden
The ESAs hassled real service animals, and frequently broke the rules on where they were allowed and caused issues with our animals. 3/3
Vhyson
If they're dumb enough to say it's an ESA, you can refuse them entry with animal. ESA are not covered by the ADA.
MeSeiden
True, but the zoo is super concerned about law suits, complaints, and bad press, so we had to deal with awful ESAs
RedSlave
Twitter is the worst format for anything
jolietjane
When twitter debuted I didn't think it was as good as blogs because it isn't a good format for conversation. I was both wrong and right.
TheBlackWindHowls
Except for presidential proclamations and policy announcements. Apparently.
mrnate91
Almost as bad as imgur comments
thekeyguy810
Fake service dogs? Are there really people who are that ignorant or fucked up trying to pull that shit?
wuhl
They claim they are emotional support animals. The issue is the law. Staff don't feel confident questioning people because of ADA protection
passbuspass
As a nurse, people bring their dogs into our hospital all the time with fake vests. Had a coworker get bit in the face by one
V65ozzie
People pull that scam all the time, so they can take their dogs into grocery stores, theaters, free seating on planes....the system is ripe
V65ozzie
for abuse, and as such, is very heavily abused. I call for a national system for identifying true service animals, with heavy fines for
V65ozzie
those caught misusing it.
cre8majic
And the vests and "certificates" are easily available. Some stores, etc are very specific in their wording of their signs, that it must be a
cre8majic
service animal, not emotional support, etc. Real service animals also don't ride in grocery carts!
Coolsailing
I knew all a long Lassie should had stayed with little Timmy at the well.
internetphd
I'm sick and tired of everything bringing their dogs into stores claiming the're a service dog. The dog in your purse is not a service dog.
callmethelizardqueen
Small dogs also are trained to detect low blood sugar, being portable means they are held close so they can smell when sugar level drops.
callmethelizardqueen
That being said most of the pocket dogs are untrained yippers that people think of as a damn child.
untouchables1350
Small dogs are often trained to detect seizures.
Corridoor
at the grocery store I work at we had a woman put her "service dog" on the conveyor belt where groceries and food go. Yeah not cool lady.
ZeroTA
My bro-in-law has an “emotional support” dog. He doesn’t need it, he just likes bringing his dog everywhere.
Vhyson
ESA aren't covered by ADA. And definitely doesn't cover residences. Give him the boot!
ZeroTA
Best part is, we told him he couldn’t bring the dog to our house (our terriers wouldn’t go for it) and he said we need to board *our* dogs -
ZeroTA
for a couple days - I told him he needs to find somewhere else to stay. Some people’s whole universe stops 2’ in front of their face.
Tunisia
Yeah if you trip over and your service dog immediately runs away, it's a pretty shitty service dog.
MechaGandalf
"Oh shit... uh. I DIDNT DO IT."
screamingshits
what if he's taking bets on how many times a day you'll trip?
illmx
What do I tell the lady with the "service" chihuahua?
wuhl
Be cautious here. They are under no obligation to answer and if you're working, they can sue. The law is broken.
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Vhyson
At least in US, you cant ask what service they provide, if they claim service dog versus ESA. Considered confidential medical information
halcat
bearnet is right. It must be trained to perform specific tasks. "It helps with my anxiety" doesn't count. "It provides pressure if needed"ok
wuhl
Even this doesn't necessarily qualify an animal as a service animal.
SpidersMcGee
You're not legally allowed to ask what disease/illness they help with, only what tasks they perform.
Vhyson
Cant even ask what tasks. Can follow up with a service dog or emotional support animal question though, and hope to catch them in lie.
SpidersMcGee
Also, something I've heard that's a good tell: four on the floor. If the dog is being carried/in a purse, *typically* not a service animal.
illmx
Yeah, she's nuts
Bystandr
"My dog and I are routinely agressed by dogs wearing service vests" .. maybe this is a larger issue where he is, but here, in the cities
Bystandr
and towns local, as well as in the interior of BC I have yet to see an uncontrolled dog with a service vest. That said, it is concerning
Bystandr
that people mislabel their animals thus, because the public needs a standard expectation of their behavior to give them access (to stores
fuckthisshitwebsite
Yeah yeah, in Canada even the dogs are polite. You respect rules that benefit everyone. You live in a utopia. We get it.
MyFetishIsALittleOddish
People mislabel their dogs all the time to be able to take them everywhere. It's actually quite stupid if there was to be an accident.
Bystandr
for instance), and you cant guarantee that standard where people train them, themselves.
dowingba
Is there a reason not to follow the dog if that happened though?
Proudfoots
It could be an elaborate ruse to rob you...Muuhahahahahahaa!
couchguy421
If the dog leads you to a windowless van, it's a trap.
callmethelizardqueen
Its not like the dog says "hey follow me, this way!" he's just pawing at you maybe low growling. I would be wondering why too.
WelcomeToMagrathea
It might be a "regular" dog trying to fetch help for their owner. Maybe a family dog that saw a child get hurt. Would follow.
Gorzine
What if
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somenerandom
I don't like dogs and have been attacked by both "trained" dogs and strays. If a random dogs appears out of nowhere and starts jumping and>
somenerandom
barking at me, with no owner in sight, I'm much more likely to take that as aggression than I am to realize I need to follow it.
ruferto
attacked or "attacked" ? and have you tried liking dogs instead?
somenerandom
Attacked. A friend of mine also got disfigured for life in her childhood, by a dog. I plain don't like them. If you do, that's fine, but>
somenerandom
2. they're animals and if in public, they should be under their owner's control. I've seen enough dogs that were supposedly "trained">
somenerandom
3. snap that I get genuinely mad when a dog jumps at me and I hear "oh it's just playing/ saying hi". Yeah I don't know that for sure and>
somenerandom
4. I don't give a fuck, it's not my animal and I don't want it on me.
ruferto
well that sucks
Pheehelm
I'm going to be really embarrassed if I see a third PSA later telling me the second guy is getting service dogs completely wrong.
UnremarkablyInteresting
He sure seems to be sitting a lot during the training.
IProvideEncouragement
I work in a very specialized industry. I frequently have people on the internet correct me, who talk out of their ass.
AllThatJazzzzz
there is, actually. Can't find it but OP has a seizure disorder and sensory issues so she can't have the dog barking beside her
AllThatJazzzzz
especially as she's waking up + disoriented. also they were in a store, the dog was the next aisle over and not "blocks away"
LittleWolfiee
Not completely wrong, but wrong in some regards, like the leash thing. A service dog doesn't have to be on a leash if it makes them 1/2
LittleWolfiee
Unable to perform their tasks or worsens their handlers disability 2/2
bigmeaniepants
It's possible that maybe - just maybe - we shouldn't be learning, or especially not acting upon, anything from Twitter.
MeowLettucePrey
I'll call 911 everytime I see a service dog just to be safe.
YouJustGotRickRolled
It's still not properly sourced
RollforDiplomacy
I mean if youre concerned maybe talk to someone IRL, instead of some randos on the interwebs. Call a local vet or some shit lol
Pixel8yt
Don't worry I'll correct them later but it will turn out I'm actually more wrong than every one else
JStengah
He is. There is no such thing as an official service animal in the US. There's no regulatory agency or official certification process.
JStengah
There are a few laws that can get people if their service animal misbehaves or isn't trained at all, but it's hard to prosecute them.
JStengah
So everything he said about how a service animal should act is just opinion, not a rule or law.
QuiteADapperAsshole
I'm here to correct the 6th guy, so I'm hanging out till then.
inb4thewar
Oh no, I correct the bus driver.
QuiteADapperAsshole
WHAT BUS DRIV- *gets corrected*
Account01
They should all get in a conference call and sort it out, so we can upvote the right things and then make inappropriate jokes about it.
ExplainThisJoke
I know, right? It almost makes me want to go and do actual research... almost
ReadOnlyMemories
List of what dog should and not do I found interesting. Maybe you will too! https://www.anythingpawsable.com/things-service-dogs-public/
SaphirePhenux
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Totallyscrewedinaustin
That was an interesting read! Also followed the lino about the different types of service dogs and I had no idea there were so many! Cool!
lagomorpha
I dunno, I have a customer who has seizure's and his GS is trainee to get help. It ignores everyone but his owner, but has no leash.
DoingItWrongSince1980
Well, he did get online and use "know" instead of "no". That completely invalidates his point, right?
Woestkonijn
I think the word fits right there.
LittlemissEm
It doesnt.
Illthinkofausernamelater
Know it doesn't.
ThatGuyWhoRepliedToYourComment
It's the internet. That guy is out there, and he can't wait to share his opinion...
yacko69
every "guy" is out there with an opinion... there like assholes everybody has one.
justsome
And then they post oictures of them to imgur
Proudfoots
If only everybody would post it in udersub :(
GTAVivacious38
In my book, you've won the Internet today.
morphire
He's completely wrong. MY service dog is trained to do my taxes and get my groceries. Also it can bake a mean risotto.
Mobiusloop
But is the risotto good enough for chef Ramsey?
appaismyspiritanimal
Can he make a mean puttanesca sauce?
tigerspacecreator
My service dog actually served 3 terms in Iraq with 80 confirmed kills, longest range of 750 yds standard issue M24
sbDB
I thank you, service dog, for your service to the country
SergeiBoobtitsky
So... is your dog single?
ThePhantomLittleDancer
Hey... don’t call your wife a dog...
tweakbz
Oh hell yeah, that's legit!!
transientmind
Ugh. Sorry to hear it. Can you ask for one that makes something better than dinner porridge?
Thecynicalspud
Now that's what I call service!
CouchCarrot
All service dogs are trained to bake a mean risotto. There's nothing special about your dog.
thedarkcanuck
When can I come for supper?
Crowfood
Sorry, service dogs are actually extremely untrustworthy and my service dog killed that guy.
Grimmrog
are there emotional supper dogs?
kjtkm
1. Service dog rules in the U.S. are given by executive regulation, not legislation. 2. Claim that a dog would stay with its owner is false;
kjtkm
plenty of service dogs are trained to go get help exactly as the girl described. 3. Further evidence that the guy is talking out his ass is
kjtkm
That the U.S. regulations specifically allow for service dogs to break the "under owner's control" rule when their work or task requires it,
kjtkm
Example given is a PTSD owner who needs their animal to move forward into a room, clear it, and return to signal the room is safe to enter.
kjtkm
What works for this guy's dog does not work for all service dogs. 4. Nothing in U.S. law declares that an owner cannot train their own dog;
BuiltLikeATruckCuddlyLikeATeddyBear
I used to train service dogs and he's not entirely right. Some of the issues he mentions are real, but he is generalizing about some things.
justsome
1."Service" dog approaches you. 2. You follow serice dog to a van beneath the overpass. 3. You wake up in sex dungeon with no kidneys.
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
If you are not bringing this to Dragon's Den, then I will.
DontWannaCloseMyEyesCauseIMissYouBabyAndIDontWannaMissAThang
Service dungeon.
KennyBlankenshipandVicRomano
Just like Charlie the Unicorn
Icantremembermyusername
Where do I meet the service dog?
justsome
at the service station
ruferto
the dog is still providing a valuable service to someone that isn't you
potatotheloaf
1. The whole “buying vests online” thing is a con and drives me nuts. People w/ high anxiety would bring their “service” dogs to outpatient
wuhl
Emotional support animals and service animals aren't the same thing, and because there's no real infrastructure, lots of people exploit it.
4422shini
This. I work travel for people in entertainment. Half of them have "emotional support animals," so they can get them on the flight with them
4422shini
It's such a con. Half the dogs aren't house broken and will bite people. They get these certificates from quack vets and ruin it for all.
polarpurple
In a different post I mentioned that the vests are more likely to be cons than legit and got downvoted to oblivion.
ItsaMeFranman
Here is an upvote for your inconvenience
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
I'm gonna guess that was done by people with fake service dogs.
uSnoozeuBooze
Just ask to see if their “service dog” has an actual ID, w/ a certification on it and should say from whom. I.E. CCI
Unicorncheesemonster
You aren't legally allowed to ask that information. insane.
uSnoozeuBooze
I help assist in training dogs for CCI and must be misinformed then but have never worked in hospitality before so I do apologize for giving
uSnoozeuBooze
A suggestion
GetRealSrsly
I work at a hotel. The ADA (americans with disabilities act) states we are only allowed to ask two questions. 1. Is that a service dog and
GetRealSrsly
2. What service are they trained to provide
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
What happens if the "service" it provides is blatantly idiotic, ie its evidently not a service dog?
GetRealSrsly
We literally cant do shit. Theres been times where people will bring their "service dogs" in dog strollers. We cant do shit
polarpurple
In the USA, there is no certification body for service animals and thus no formal ID to be had.
keyonne
You are wrong my dear sir. There is no official emotional support registration but there is for professionally trained service dogs.
polarpurple
Okay, I'll set aside my 25 years of raising guide dogs and admit I'm wrong if you name that registry.
keyonne
Well, I had no idea you had experience. You are a random internet person. I was going by information my sister was given when she registered
potatotheloaf
2. And the damn things would growl at other people the whole time. Didn’t do much help for OTHER people with anxiety or other disorders.
unluckymercenary
I had a neighbor once with a super aggressive German Shepherd with a vest. It acted like a guard dog but wore a service dog vest.
Gyinagal
Its service was protecting the house duh
Eagle79222
I work security for an airport and I see all kinds of dogs with vests every day. This guys not lying about it being a serious issue.
Chezoso
I work in F&B and we are not allowed to ask. They have to demonstrate inappropriate behavior first before we can ask to have them leave.
Chezoso
And service ponies are a thing
potatotheloaf
That I believe in and don’t see being much of a problem, since they’re not so easy to transport
WhereIsMyOldAccount
So are service pigs
MyFetishIsALittleOddish
People do this to bring their dogs into stores too. If I see aggressive behavior in my store, I ask them to take their dog outside.
MyFetishIsALittleOddish
No service dog will act like that.
potatotheloaf
Yeah some lady brought her boxer into the pharmacy and it tried “playing” w/ my 4-yo and ended up scaring the shit out of her
RikkyTikkiTavi
4-yo ok otherwise?
potatotheloaf
Oh yeah it took her a little while to warm up to big dogs again but she still gets nervous around them, understandably so
Dickslover
Some lady brought her "service dog" into the pharmacy I used to work at and it pissed all over the floor... She didn't even acknowledge it
SavvySillybug
Pretty clear to me. If a service dogs behaves like that, it's either fake or defective. Or still in training. Either way, not allowed inside
ILLuumiknotty
Wait they have detective service dogs???
Gyinagal
I think dogs in training are actually allowed. Not certain though. Does anyone know?
pixarpizza
It varies by state, and there may be a minimum dog age. In my state SDiTs have the same rights as a fully trained service dog. (SC)
AlexisActually
What I know is that you cant ask beyond "is that a service animal". If the individual says yes, you gotta let them be.
SKaR333
Nope. According to the ADA, service dogs in training are not considered service dogs and are not afforded the same privileges or protections
avidatheist
If it's in training it's not a service animal yet.
callmethelizardqueen
When in public my dog ignores people & most other dogs, but I rarely take him out because of how other dogs act & I dont need that shit.
AlexisTerror
I went to the store the other day and this woman had a dog with the vest, but I kept seeing the dog wandering a bit towards diff things, 1/?
AlexisTerror
Like the woman was standing still (dog had a leash too) and started to sniff towards a kid’s legs (kid was in the basket) and she yanked 2/?
AlexisTerror
The dog back towards her. Tbh I ended up running into her a few times and she always had to yank the dog closer to her. Now idk how 3/?
callmethelizardqueen
Plus other owners who yell at their dog as it freaks out only making the situation worse.
lolatwopawz
This. A lot. This.
intashu
This mentions a important fact. Service dogs are WORKING. Don't pet them or treat them like a cute doggo. They're not the same as a pet!
JiffyGee
I learned this in kindergarten.
trikucian
If I see a service or police dog I ask the handler if I can pet the dog, usually they have a routine the dog has to follow before a pat
Deadpoolio7
Maggiemypet
I work with 2 service dogs. I have to wait for the good girls to get to their office and "take a break" for I can give loves and boops.
SarcasticComment
Yet when I say this about food dogs in Korea. I'm the assholes.
danozdotnet
But boshintang is so tasty!
SarcasticComment
I know. I've had it.
ruferto
*sneakily pets your dog when you're not looking*
turskadisko
Just don't do it mate
reversinatir
If it's a service dog on duty you are potentially putting someone at risk by doing that.
ruferto
i'm... surprisingly ok with that
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
*Don't pet service dogs while wearing the vest/gear. On/off tells the dog if it's work time or play time. Or so I've read. On Tumblr. Yeah.
Trustinlies
That is correct.
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AMartianPotato
A friend of my parents is blind and has two service dogs, one retired and one active. In his home they act completely like any other dog.
CreateYourOwnNormality
It's exactly the same with the Service Dog's owner too.
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
The funny thing is that if you approach a cute human and scratch its ears, most people would understand how inappropriate that sounds & is.
minuteye
Best practice: ask the owner before petting a dog. Even if it isn't a service dog, it might be aggressive or easily frightened.
TheWoodchuck
If your animal is aggressive or easily frightened, it has no business being in a service vest, but points to always checking with handler.
Mentok
That's best practice for any dog, ever.
madknitterlady
As an owner of a dog who is afraid of children - yes please. I adore the kids who ask first so I get the chance to explain why not.
Cymland
My dog is the opposite, loves kids but is afraid of adults. I find kids are better at asking first rather than adults.
WastedPear
So much this. We have a very small, harmless and cute looking dog who is very people and dog aggressive. The amount of people who just 1/2
WastedPear
Assume he’s friendly is outrageous. People will walk up all the time without asking if he’s friendly. And then get mad when he growls/barks.
HPCmonkey
^^ This right here. Any dog, pet, child, etc. ask the owner/parent before engaging. There may be issues or requirements ahead of time.
unluckymercenary
I’ll add to that list a pregnant lady’s pregnant belly
MrSaturday
THANK YOU!
Cymland
I wish people followed this piece of common sense. My dog is weary of strange adults & prefers to sniff first or 0 interaction. I've 1/?
Cymland
Had countless adults bend down & try to pet her without asking & the few that do ask ignore me telling them no because she is skittish 2/?
Cymland
Which results in her snapping in warning. Which I end up feeling like an ass because she snapped despite me telling them no. She loves 3/?
samxbuttonsx
My neighbour was trying to train her dog not to jump on people and to not get overly excited whenever she saw someone. It's sad, the owner -
samxbuttonsx
-said that random people would encourage the dog to jump up on them since she was a cute, fluffy puppy. I was pretty much the only one that-
samxbuttonsx
-basically respected the owner's wishes and waited for the dog to lay down and the owner gave me the go ahead before petting her. People-