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The telecoms have already tried shit in the past and been stopped. What makes you think they won't do it again if given free reign?
Nov 25, 2017 8:46 AM
BeardedCoffeeMonkey
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The telecoms have already tried shit in the past and been stopped. What makes you think they won't do it again if given free reign?
Myoakka
My book budget is going to get an increase if this crap happens
Ayyylmeow
Didn't AT&T just try to buy Time Warner for $85B? I feel like this is relevant somehow so I thought I'd mention
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
TyrelCorp
When will the private sector start charging US citizens for the air they breathe? At the rate things are going there, it can't be far off.
JarJarDrinks
Please repost this often
babykinz
Reminds me of the old AOL days, you paid so much for their service, but if you wanted to go into the chat room you had to pay more.
IThurtswhenIP6
Holy shit is this new?
GlowstickJedi
Why is there no alternative to these cunt telecoms giants?
MrHumberfloob
Trying to send texts like..
Arliem
2017 Comcast denies that they throttle back bandwidth to residential customers to provide extra bandwidth to business class customers.
98VoteForPedro
that finger though
RhinosRfatUnicorns
I’m a noob. Sorry. Serious question, tho. Don’t those companies own the infrastructure? I actually don’t know, but want to know.
SeeTheNumbersTasteTheViolence
Virgin Media gives me free data for twitter and whatsapp lol
TimeRyderAndTheChronoTeens
Run into yet another net neutrality post:
AnExplosionADayKeepsTheMythsAway
Soooo... Why is your phone giving you the bird?
HeavyFlow
So werent most if not all of tgese blocked/fined and reversed without the net neutrality title 2?
icannotthinkofanyrationalname
You all have been owned by telecom for some time, you are about to get super-owned.
ICallPeoplesBullshit
Not to be that guy but they've been stopped every time. What's to say they won't keep being stopped without NN?
JesusFischer
https://www.freepress.net/blog/2017/04/25/net-neutrality-violations-brief-history
squionk5772
The only rule that is being taken away is from 2015... This post doesn't help the argument
blastingjackal6
Let's insurrect if they shoot down net neutrality I'm done with all this political bullshit time for a good ol revolution my dudes
mardukkur
Or you could just vote Democrat, since they are the ones that enforced NN and they oppose efforts to repeal it.
blastingjackal6
Nah our 2 party system is busted we need more
mardukkur
Oh god you're one of them. One party is fucking me in the ass and the other one isn't perfect. Revolution!!!!
BartWillemsen
This how thing is so corrupt and it makes me so angry! I thought the US was a civilized country but its run by corporates instead of the gov
BartWillemsen
Net neutrality is equal to free speech. How can there be free speech if corporates decide what we read and see?
scaredplatypus
No. 'Freedom of Speech' is exclusively freedom from limitations and retaliation by governmental forces. It is not applicable here.
BartWillemsen
This would be comparable to the great firewall of China. This is what happens if you put corporate people in charge of the country
scrumptacular
i guess I can start birdwatching or something.
Lurkingoff
In Soviet Russia, bird watch you!
GorgeFloyd
This internet is a train wreck anyway. Good riddance to it. We'll make a new internet. With hookers and blackjack.
MiddlelVlan
But this one already had blackjack and hookers...
TheForceRestrained
The internet will become like cable: there'll be only a few hundred websites you can go to, all of which are chosen by your isp
StonedLikeACheatingMuslimWoman
I hear there are these things made out of wood pulp with ink on it
Nightcaste
Gotta pay if you want to see twitters
EliMFrost
I guess I can send letters to my friends with Polaroids.
nononini
Will we all have to become hipsters?
Hemelsblauw
What if you used VPN?
BartWillemsen
Even the use of Tor can be blocked now, there is really no way out of it.
TwoToneeRebel
Block vpn connections. Happens all the time. Xc
FrogBotherer
Same goes for the TOR network.
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
Depends what protocol. GRE, PPTP and L2TP can be easily blocked by ISPs since they operate on specific ports. You can configure your...
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
... Router with openvpn on basic tcp/udp ports to get around most isp blocks and authenticate over ssh or ssl to access what you want...
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
... The problem is the traffic is slow
Mistruths
There's a toll booth at your house, and at the grocery. Just because you stop at the gas station doesn't mean you don't go to the grocery.
squindiggly
The VPN still has to make the request to the website and THAT lane can be slowed down can't it?
Mistruths
Basically, yes. YOUR connection can be slowed, and THEIR connection can be slowed; using a different middle doesn't change that.
squindiggly
Based on username I don't know whether to trust you...
Mistruths
→→it basically means if the server is with the host's competition, they can slow it to a crawl, just like they can slow you.
genua83
Just remember, this is the shit that they have been caught doing. Imagine the other shit that has not yet come to light.
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
I remember during my training at cockmast, we talked about how the isp big wigs get together once a year to discuss which territories...
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
... The ISPs will take and who gets what. This effectively kills any competition between big ISPs and is illegal. But of course there's...
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
No proof. Just the word of my trainer
Akennedy43111
After my mom got unlimited data with verizon i started using my hotspot to play games online (i live out in the sticks no other options) 1/?
Akennedy43111
And when i reached about 80 gigs used on my phone verizon threatened to drop our data below 3g. I forget what they called it but 2/?
Akennedy43111
Nothing would load. Not imgur or youtube or even clash of clans would work. Then my ma called them and sorted stuff out 3/?
Akennedy43111
But Im sure as soon as NN is gone Im screwed. I guess unlimited data is limited at about 80 gigs when you have verizon
Rocketrickster
It‘s called fair usage policy, there‘s a limit to what you can download. I agree calling it unlimited is misleading but all contracts got it
JasonAbbadon
Also today, Trump put his deregulation fuckwit in charge of the CFPB. It's like we're about to be fucked with sandpaper and alcohol.
TheBlackWindHowls
I can't say it's incompetence anymore; it has to be just flat-out malice to keep appointing people as agency heads that hate the agency.
JasonAbbadon
Greed, malice, evil- call it what you want. It adds up to the most corrupt government in our lifetime. Maybe ever.
TheBlackWindHowls
Corrupt American government, yeah. Tame if you include third-world dictatorships, but for America's short history, it's atrocious.
JasonAbbadon
Yeah. What pisses me off is how brazen it is- they know they have no checks or balances just now and they just flaunt corruption as freedom.
shmekie
It's greed. Always has been. He's not a total idiot. He has some vague idea of 'want money'
yesyoucancancan
It's not malice. Just money.
TheBlackWindHowls
I would argue greed falls under the "malice" heading.
ComradeZoidberg
Yep. Trump is making things better. That swamp is sure drained.
BartWillemsen
That man is a joke and tells lies or just plain wrong things every day. How anyone can take him serious is beyond me.
ComradeZoidberg
I don't know what the people that voted him in expected.
mardukkur
He promised to put the boot in on the blacks and muslims."He hates the people I hate. Give me the damn ballot!"
Counterfit
Buttery males
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
Now that's a fresh reference
unclemeat70
Net neutrality regulations were implemented in 2015.
eldorel
The communications act of 1934 set the ground rules for telephone services, the Telcom act of 1996 extended that to ISPs. (1/2)
eldorel
The 2015 regulations were just explicitly outlining additional rules on top of all of that.
unclemeat70
So, since the frame work to stop abuses has been in place since ‘34 the Net Neutrality regs would seem superfluous. And a power grab...
eldorel
The problem is actually even bigger. The ISPs (att in particular) are trying to subvert the original regs permanently by forcing a new class
eldorel
telephone carriers fall under "title-2", but 'broadband carriers' are in a grey area. This entire circus is to avoid having that label apply
SanKa13
Seriusly, fuuuuck the telecoms. In every country, they’re the worst. People really need to unite over this. Freedom is at stake
cheeseguy3412
I wonder if this infringes on freedom of assembly in the same way the poll tax interfered with voting rights. 1/2
cheeseguy3412
You know they'll take down forums with dissenting opinions. 2/2
FrogBotherer
Wasn't it 2013-2014 when Comcast throttled connections to Netflix until they coughed up more money?
nclu
http://bgr.com/2014/05/06/comcast-internet-service-criticism-twc-cablevision-level-3/
HaHarkAgain
There's more rational to the story than just that but yes
AnnoyingCollegeKid
Got any peer reviewed academic sources to back up that ridiculous claim?
perceptualmotion
this is a troll account, look at his history. ignore him.
Seriousboy99
Username checks out.
suileandubha
/a/9YvCX graph is from Washington Post, but you don’t generally get “peer reviewed” for non-academic reports.
nclu
I’ve added a link above. Basically, Comcast and others refused to upgrade a very minor piece of equipment to connect with backbone providers
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Counterfit
Because that's what their customers pay them for
nclu
It’s not Netflix’s traffic, it is Comcast’s clients’. Netflix already paid their ISP. Comcast agreed to provide their clients their request
Detranica
Jesus dude you can just Google it no need to go all scholar on us
Vyrro
They're not a scholar. Just a moron with a schtick phrase that has netted them no favor.
AnnoyingCollegeKid
You can’t just pull a statement out of your ass an claim its true. You need hard data
TinyFrog
Yes I can.
Detranica
He says effectively pulling a statement out of his ass by claiming you need analytical data for anything to be true
AnnoyingCollegeKid
You can’t just drag your scrotum on my face and call it a breakthrough
MCDankOC
Probably just some annoying college kid.
malikcarr
BlindGardener
Then the evil ones would go out of business, their executives would find jobs in the non-evil ones, and those ones would become evil. Genius
Aquilarden
Wait, when has Cox not been shit?
daaaBlues
What happened in September?
squindiggly
Half the isps realised they could squeeze money out of Netflix by holding their service hostage
superanth
Cablevision is separate now? Interesting...
SorryIamnotsorry
That is the real solution. Stop local government from giving ISPs monopolies and ISPs couldn't do this kind of shit
AyeVey
Not really. The startup costs for an ISP are all too high when including laying down cable. The "deals" are to stop new ISPs from instantly-
AyeVey
-going bankrupt due to not enough profits.
Darkspire
It needs to be both. Neutrality needs to be safeguarded and labeled as a utility.
malikcarr
https://www.wired.com/2013/07/we-need-to-stop-focusing-on-just-cable-companies-and-blame-local-government-for-dismal-broadband-competition/
malikcarr
This horseshit situation where there's only one cable company in your area is largely driven by minimum access laws and other gov't policy->
malikcarr
which the cable company will of course use to beat down anyone else who wants to expand in their area. Worse, two cable companies will->