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Jun 13, 2022 3:06 AM
mfrybeasley
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Recidivous
What's so weird about adults in fandoms? Some fandoms are so old now that the kids in them grew up.
PeteyVonWho
Yeah, stop being mean to my weird ass!
beerkrump
TLDR; Don't be a dick.
LawlessGardener89
Stay weird
Burke616
If you're only going to give respect and empathy to a person once they give you a Good Reason, you are not a good person. Work on yourself.
Hellbrand
If not for furries the internet would Collapse in on itself from lack of code maintence.
SandwichRGood
A necessary evil
TurdHurdler
I still haven’t figured out if I’m on the spectrum or just weird.
Dannyalcatraz
As a lifelong non-autistic (AFAIK) oddball, I approve this message.
iusedtodream
It's not complicated. Be honest and speak your truth, but be nice about it. Don't tease, bully, or mock people. That's asshole behavior.
FourLegsGood
This is a funny comment because telling the truth is what gets autistic people into trouble the most.
iusedtodream
Truth and honesty are dangerous in a diseased system. We have to fix this, or US civilization will die. No hyperbole.
lDanielHolm
Being autistic is not a get-out-of-jail-free card to behaving like an asshole. Lots of behavior that is due to autism is not okay. That
lDanielHolm
doesn't mean you shouldn't be more acceptable of "weird" behavior, but it is *not* the case that you should accept ALL behavior just because
lDanielHolm
it might be autistic.
Thewoolyhead
I can't believe we live in a world where we have to told "Be nice to everyone" I've never understood why people pick on or bully people.
ninepatch
Honestly, that's how all societies police themselves. Animals nip at their own young to make them behave. Same concept with humans.
volcabsol
I love how adults being in fandoms is considered weird when it's children being in fan spaces that's new and abnormal lmao.
Alderfern
Some of those weird things are hard for others to be around. They can bring on trauma and anxiety. I love people. But it's not as easy as...
justiPumpkinTaker
It's not like people with ASD can help it, but they are always expected to change. What a terrible perspective and incredibly ableist.
Alderfern
Hey everyone be you all together and that's OK and if not OK the naysayers is a problem. We do need context to help understand each other...
Alderfern
Knowing why someone is banging chairs around and it isn't dangerous and they won't hurt you Helps. It's removes the connection to ptsd...
Alderfern
It isn't explaining anything away to give context of why they do it. It's trying to communicate in ways that we all understand each other
Alderfern
People may exploit that. But lots have different things going on are scared of being exposed for it seeming weird. Cos it is. So I suppose..
Alderfern
IMHO whether we know the why or not the only answer is to be as mindful as you can and try not to be a dick.
FourLegsGood
This is probably the comment closest to the truth. Unfortunately it gets really meta because to explain it I'd have to hurt the feelings 1/
FourLegsGood
Of neurotypical people. Being autistic means seeing people's self reinforcing flaws and being powerless to do anything about it. 2/2
ElyaEquestus
Autistic woman here: the moment you believe that you are powerless to change your own influence than that is the moment you give up on 1/
ElyaEquestus
5/ my diagnose, entered therapy for my childhood trauma and started to establish boundaries. People respond well to stable and predictable
Direwolflord
I didn't get my diagnosis till recentlyish, throughout school I was treated terribly because people noticed I guess. But I don't know why
ElyaEquestus
4/ interact with neurodiverse folks. I found that it became easier to interact with the people around me when I started to fully embrace
ElyaEquestus
3/ dont *know* this either, they just respond to neurotypicals in a way that neurotypicals expect. Which is why they clash the moment they
ElyaEquestus
2/ yourself. It is hard to become aware of ones selves and understand how our actions influence our environment. Neurotypical people
ElyaEquestus
6/ people. And yes, that is hard work and yes, it sucks.
FourLegsGood
The thing is that becoming self aware was what allowed me to notice self unawareness in nts and when you point this out they get insecure 1/
Alderfern
I think being self aware is independent of nt/nd & more just any individual's perceptiveness but yes sadly we can't often change others.
Youhavinagiraffe
You can't have an accepting culture around neurodiversity and mental health and ALSO have "cringe" as a source of entertainment.
OlemGolem
"It's okay if they are autistic." No, it's not an excuse! They don't understand what is 'normal' or socially acceptable. You can tell them.
tacticalattackterriers
I think the idea is that you can at least attempt to tell them kindly, rather than just assuming that they should be insulted out of it.
OlemGolem
Of course, but in my case, people have snapped at me for using autism as an excuse while it is not.
tacticalattackterriers
Oh, my misunderstanding. That makes sense.
majorserenity
Living with your parents in your 30s is not 'weird'. That concept was invented by banks to milk families for more loans and mortgages
NyoroCat
Seems a little mean to call people who live at home weird when everything is so extremely expensive.
dedpan
The whole point is shitting on any of these people is mean
channelranger
Yeah with wealth inequality and housing getting so bad it's totally reasonable to live at home at any age.
RoodKontjeAapje
It did make sense during that small window of time where the average person could afford houses.
Ceistebi
Ok, but do I have to respect people who take astrology actually seriously? Cause I struggle...
executivedisfunction
Astrology is any more respectable than any religion I don't follow?? If you Believe that weird shit, I'll struggle to be more than polite.
executivedisfunction
I have a friend who took the deep dive into Astrology. He's known me for over 40 years. Don't ask me my signs, Tell me, if you are an expert
TheobromineAddict
Is it still okay to be mean to Nazis?
MoonQueenie
yes and its expected.
OrkenMork
back in the 70s, we just called "those" people weird and left them alone to find their own group to hang with.
Dagordae
No, you REALLY didn't. LOTS of abuse, ostracizing, and bullying until they conformed or they died.
ecavalli
Back in the 70s, you were a dick. Have you improved any since then?
tungstenfibers
You say that like bullying's something that was invented in 1997 or something.
circlebreaker
Funny you should say that. I've heard different from people who got the absolute shit beat out of them at lunch every day for being dweebs.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Nah, you bullied them until they committed suicide or faked who they were and made themselves miserable.
NyoroCat
So like current year?
executivedisfunction
TBH,, I find the current school generation a lot more tolerant of neurodivergence and general non-conformism, though of familiar sorts.
thedepressedkat
I graduated in 2018 and gay kids were harassed like crazy. People would make posters and pass them around making fun of weird kids. 1/2
thedepressedkat
Most of that crowd is super LGBTQ+ friendly now so at least college changed them but children will always be influenced by their families.
OrkenMork
Nope Everyone had their own clique back in the 70s. Jocks, freaks, nerds, band, drama, tweaks, DND, plus about a dozen more. Just left alone
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Nice rose colored glasses there, bud. Do I need to start digging out the sources, or are you going to admit you're wrong?
Timetoupdatemyusername
Maybe OrkenMork got lucky with his/her/xir school?
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Unlikely. Title 9 was only enacted in '72. It was still a horrific time to not be a neurotipical straight white man.
buzzardman2
That's like a major form of bullying... I can tell you that finding "their own group" is basically impossible so they isolate or change.
OrkenMork
In the 70s when a kid acted really weird, he was legitimately left alone...not bullied, just given a wide berth. His choice though.
buzzardman2
I can't seem to find anything to back this claim up but even if it was true anecdotal evidence aside that's still actively avoiding them?
OrkenMork
I was there. I was part of it. Heck, I even got the captain of the football team expelled for punching me. Preferred didn't take him b'cause
generalsplayingrisk
It's always tricky tho. If you find a person's quirks grating, you shouldn't performatively fake friendship just to "be an ally".
buzzardman2
I get this totally, but you can still be friendly and treat them as another person and not just avoid them like they're diseased.
LonelyVoid
literally nobody said that though? the original post just said "don't bully people for being weird". how hard is that?
generalsplayingrisk
and a following comment said that leaving them to "find their own group" is a form of bullying
camcam1234
What are stargender and neopronouns?
HootSloot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopronoun
MagicalScientist
People who say they're gender based on their mood and make up pronouns, like /self.
surroundedbyidiots1337
They're the annoying part of the LGBT demographic. Special little snowflakes who needs to be recognized for their uniqueness.
dirtcreature
C3PO / toaster
Xerxes4242
Certainly nothing I'll ever use with a straight face.
RandomAbscessMemories
No idea on the first, but neopronouns is a term to refer to pronouns outside of the standard he/she/they
CatBeagler
Where and how exactly is "they" NOT inclusive? It's a universal plural?
RexMori
Weirdly, xhi and xir predate the common acceptance of they as a nonbinary singular. Some people are more comfortable with it still
HolyCringeLordBatman
Boss, Xe was made in like the 70s. Shakespeare used they as a singular hundreds of years ago. Let people use the pronouns they want but that
TheLookAndFeelMUSIC
To be stargendered you don't actually need to have star genitals, just identify as the someone with star genitals.
SandwichRGood
Each time I piss I unleash a supernova knocking out all electronics in a square mile with the resulting EMP
Arkvoodle
BTW can you not do that? Keeps knocking out my wifi.
Youhavinagiraffe
They're catch-alls for all the "made-up" genders and pronouns (unlike he/she and male/female which aren't socially constructed at all!)
OrangeFlavours
Jokes. I assume.
MagicalScientist
Keep that ignorance safe.
OrangeFlavours
Wot, lad?
PhailRaptor
A hyperbole
baroncognito
neopronouns are the ones like xir. New pronouns, rather than using existing ones like they/them.
itsthevoiceman
Respect is the default. Disrespect is earned.
FourLegsGood
Tolerance is the default. Respect is earned.
itsthevoiceman
Incorrect
VitaminBeaPositive
Making jokes at people is fine, just don't get personal. Someone's fat? You don't mock the fat. Someone dresses weird? You don't mock it.
VitaminBeaPositive
But humor is a thing for a reason. Just don't hurt people with it. If both sides aren't laughing, it wasn't a joke.
VitaminBeaPositive
Worked with a 400lb guy for years. Nonody ever made a fat joke. He got laughed at instead because he had ZERO filter.
VitaminBeaPositive
He wasn't hurt by it. He would say things like "I totally pulled a Tim this morning", and would tell us how. That's humor done right.
VitaminBeaPositive
Only truly shitty people go for the obvious. Where's the challenge If? Like, if you make fat jokes, you're probably not a great person.
Etereo
So...furry are autistic now? Thats seems...offensive?
downwithJesus
Not one and the same no, but more likely to be. Autistic people are less likely to follow social rules for the sake of the rules
tacticalattackterriers
Like the other guy said, anecdotally, the vast majority of furries I've met are either diagnosed with ASD/have a lot of behavior in common.
TicklishOwl
Oh no, I'm not allowed to be annoyed or dislike things I find cringy. /s. If you naruto run, you definitely deserve to be on blast.
RoodKontjeAapje
It's always hard to say where the line is between "you should accept people" and "a bit of bullying is necessary".
RunsWithScizrs
What does "naruto", mean?
HootSloot
Lean forward arms behind like in the anime Naruto.
FourLegsGood
It looks like you have a lot on your mind.
nowheressomethingwehopeyoullreallylike
Here's the issue... I don't have to respect anyone, just like they don't have to respect me. I still have the right to call someonea /1
nowheressomethingwehopeyoullreallylike
Fucking idiot and likewise, they have the right to do the same to me. I just have to accept them as they are.
Algebraicrhombus
I can't see myself calling anyone an idiot because of odd behavior/ speech/ clothes. Poor driving, rudeness, etc. I make an exception.
nowheressomethingwehopeyoullreallylike
Well poor driving and errant behavior could be explained by ADHD, autism, or other mental conditions
Algebraicrhombus
You may be right. But I think you shouldn't have a license if you regularly go without using a turn signal.
nowheressomethingwehopeyoullreallylike
Oh I thoroughly agree
WalksTheSky
I think the internet has helped people embrace weirdness. Weird/absurd humor, niche interests, small but dedicated forums about whatever.
Kargathia
It has helped people embrace their own weirdness, not those of others. Big fucking difference.
PalaverQuader
in the same way alot of ignorant ppl. get to see even more weird things they dont understand and be afraid of and can hate. which is more?
Euchale
Yes like Q. :cry:
OrangeFlavours
Yes. It also viciously mocks them, and has communities dedicated to either be weird or attack weird people.
bridgebrain
The internet is both the transcendence of humanity and it's greatest cesspool
3lv3n
I wonder if they said the same for the telephone, tv or the printing press.
bridgebrain
Printing press, definitely. I think people thought the phone was a weird fad. TV just roted your brain
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
the most vicious mockery tends to come from within the fandom, and be of collect self deprecation though.
BigTex1
Primus sucks
OrangeFlavours
No it isn't. I don't mean just fandoms, I mean there's literally entire subreddits dedicated to insulting people, like fatpeoplehate.
Ink41d0
And where might i find these hate-boards--you know, so I can set my Hacktivist friends on their coded asses & tear them an eternal new one?
OrangeFlavours
I'm... pretty sure that's illegal and difficult to do, esp if it's reddit, since you can't selectively shut down a single sub. 1/
teapartyyy
I got my ASD diagnosis at 36. I didn’t change but everyone around me could suddenly adapt. I make a point out of never alienating someone.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
My friend (adult) was recently diagnosed as autistic. He now blames everything on that, quits anything hard and uses it as as excuse.
teapartyyy
Maybe you see it that way. Asd has to constantly adapt and it can cause discourse when you stop doing “acting” to fit in.
teapartyyy
*discord
TacoPoweredHelicopter
I wish he as never diagnosed, being a "little wierd" was way better.
teapartyyy
1. For me it was for the better. It went from ”why cant you just..” to realisation that i cant or i have to take different approach
teapartyyy
2. Also a lot of discovery for me that there’s a reason why some situations are high stress for me and not for others and not a failure.
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
Hey, don't call thirtysomethings who live with their parents weird in THIS economy. Or at least don’t lump them in with furries!
hollowedskin
Exactly, furries tend to have way more money for a start
DarthVella
Indeed! Those are two distinct sub-species with intricate and deep effects and relationships on both each other and the wider ecosystem!
AutoFox
Hey, I resemble both those remarks!
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Right? It's just good financial sense to live in a multigenerational home. Luckily it's normal in my culture. Expected.
thethingthatwentsplat
Eh. I don’t see the big deal about furries. Who cares? As long as everything is consensual.
spacecowboyein
I'd say maybe it's cause there is nothing that would pass the Harkness test in reality. Even though loli hentai is legal, it's not healthy.
thethingthatwentsplat
Granted, but being a furry does not mean you are a bestiality practitioner. As per the loli bit, if it helps you get off, relieve stress, 1/
thethingthatwentsplat
and you are still attracted to real humans, it’s probably fine. Failing that, you might want to see a sex therapist.
CatBeagler
1]I think kink & fetish-play centered around cutesy cartoons specifically styled to be appealing/safe/friendly toward children should be
CatBeagler
2] kept far and away from impressionable kids. Kinks & fetishes are developed with exposure; this would be uncomfortably close to grooming.
alaest0r
Ive got bad news for you regarding where these adults with kinks came from (hint: they were often horny kids watching wholesome things)
Bignholy
Kinks are developed based on the circumstances surrounding your sexual awakening. A kid who was hitting their stride in puberty in, say, 1/2
Bignholy
the early 90's, could be "exposed to" such unwholesome content as the entire Disney Afternoon television block, which is an infamous 2/3
thethingthatwentsplat
And does not involve children.
Vallete
Children cannot consent
leperoutcastunclean
Or actual animals.
RydWolf
Remember, that's zoophilia and is something completely distinct from being a furry.
leperoutcastunclean
As the other guy expressed, the overlap between furries and zoophiles is a lot higher than the overlap between zoophiles and normies.
SandwichRGood
but unfortunately often related
Vallete
You say that like furries are bad?
Zefram86
Thirtysomethings living with their parents don't go to cons and leave their dirty diapers lying around everywhere.
thenumericdolfin942
Some gay people are gross and unhygienic. Therefore, gay people as a group are bad. See how stupid that sounds? You almost get it.
thenumericdolfin942
To make this clearer since people did not read past the first sentence: any sufficiently large group has members that suck. Don't judge a
thenumericdolfin942
Group by the shittiness of its worst members.
SandwichRGood
In my personal experience, a majority of furries I've met are bad people or repulsively weird. Ofc I've met some cool ones too, though.
minqapoc
The only cool ones i've met went to kid hospitals in fursuit to cheer up the kids. Those lads were awesome.
Rahava
I mean they pay artists well but i've yet to run into one that didn't mildly push their kink onto others so.... yeah.
dashthefox
Well time to change that. Hello!
bangbangbangbangbangbangbangban
You left out the major pushy ones
thenumericdolfin942
Some gay people push their sexuality on others. Therefore gay people are as a group bad. See how stupid that sounds? You almost get it then.
aloharamada
Don't see why you're getting downvoted, you clearly have a message of acceptance there, it's like people aren't even reading what you wrote.
thenumericdolfin942
They read the first few words and checked out. Reading is hard I guess.
Rahava
Sure but there's a noticeable pattern with furries, really any fetish tbh, where they push their stuff into inappropriate situations.
thenumericdolfin942
Heard that same argument regarding race, gender, and sexuality. Just judge people on a case by case basis. Don't judge a group by its worst.
CatBeagler
Kinks and fetishes are not identities. Don't compare them as if they are.
thenumericdolfin942
Wasn't. Read the whole comment next time.
aloharamada
He didn't, he said some people in a group acting overbearing doesn't excuse having negative feelings towards the group as a whole. He could>
RydWolf
1) Would you even know someone was a furry if they didn't mention it?
RydWolf
2) Also, what exactly qualifies as 'pushing their kink onto others'?
RydWolf
3) Also, are you saying that being a furry is a kink, or that furries push their kinks onto other people?
astralfields
The number of furries who you'd never guess were furries is MUCH higher than you think. Most of them stay quiet about it.
astralfields
Also, the ones who fetishize it are a minority. Most furries are just interested in the artwork and the community.
triaddraykin
Been one for twenty years or so. Been a fair number of people who don't believe that I am one, because I don't bug people with it.
JayEnfield
Furry here. I've been leveraging the constant supply of reliable roommates to own my own house. No parental living for me.
SophisticatedSloth
Good for you. Sincerely.
JayEnfield
Heh. I've actually never lived on my own, really... I moved out at 18, I'm 35 now. Had furry roomies that whole time.
JayEnfield
It's just a thing I do well, even before I had my own house. Gather up 3 or 4 of us, and be the leader of household.
JayEnfield
One moves out, another moves in, lather rinse repeat.
al3xinw0nderland0000
Its a shame you're getting downvoted especially on THIS post. Furries have been one of the sweetest groups I've ever been around!
JayEnfield
Any time I type anything with 'furry' in it, there's about a 25% chance it's going to pull some red arrows regardless of what's in it.
al3xinw0nderland0000
Sadly:( that's the internet, eh, easier to push the button without thinking. Well here's an internet rando telling you to keep being weird:)
JayEnfield
The entire reason we're furries in the first place is because fuck the haters. ;)
JayEnfield
*shrug* Oh well.
mksu
I'm completely fine with that as long as we can continue to discriminate against people who like their steaks well-done.
AgentArgent
I have a medical condition and undercooked meats including fish could be fatal. Fully cooked salmon sucks but it's the only way I can eat it
Kailhun
Well-done steak is the only true way
JohnBluehill
No, the people who put milk in before the cereal for their first bowl.
sfcorax
A slow cooked marinated steak is far better than eating a still bleeding cow.
Kehy
Had food poisoning as a kid, and after, it was the only way I could eat steaks. Getting better about pink, but now I can't afford steak
cjorl
Love a well done steak
Yorghe
you cant, they're autisteak
Ilovehavingfreehealthcare
It's better than just drinking raw blood directly out of a smooshy meat sponge
ExtremeCowEnthusiast
Or worse than well done: Congratulation
JohnCheshirsky
My ancestors didn't evolve from apes, and didn't tame the fire, and didn't invent thermal treatment of food for me just to spit on their 1/2
JohnCheshirsky
Legacy and in the souls and hearts of thousands of people before me and eat meat raw. They said - if you want to eat your meat fully 2/3
JohnCheshirsky
Cooked, right down to its very core, it's your right as a Homo Fucking Sapiens, and we support your decision. We're all free to eat our 3/4
JohnCheshirsky
Damn steaks in any damn degree of doneness and not be judged for it, that's what I say! /end
nat300Lord
Woah, this is a straight up war here. By the way, I am the token vegetarian/vegan that sneers at your heathen asses.
eilonwy
It really depends on the kind of steak. Well done is ok for some of them. They're not all meant to be served rare.
LostScientist
I'll agree with that, if it has a lot of marbling it needs some time and heat, I don't like chewy fat. Sous vide is a way to cheat though.
Ketheres
There's a difference between well-done and overcooked. Just that making a proper well-done steak is beyond most people's culinary skills, so
Ketheres
many think that a well-done steak is an overcooked steak.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
If it's not rare, it's overcooked.
Akyan
Thank you, my dude. I needed a laugh today
shirtrickstewart
Newly pregnant, and apparently we are supposed to eat all meat well done! Will be embarrassed to ask, at least until I’m showing
PoliticalWanderer
Just politely but firmly ask them to leave.
rbudrick
Most of the people that say this like their meat bleeding and cold. No thanks.
thethingthatwentsplat
Caveat. Define “steak”. Salisbury Steaks should not count.
thethingthatwentsplat
Meaning, they should absolutely be cooked through.
BeanTootsAreBest
Would you change your mind if it was revealed that there was a strong correlation between well done steak preference and autism?
HungryHungryLawStudent
Nah there's gotta be a line
mksu
It's all just memes. I don't actually care how people like their steak.
buzzardman2
A properly cooked well done steak that isn't shoe leather is a hard thing to accomplish and I doubt most people have ever had one.
buzzardman2
It's actually quite insane how much work goes into making a good well done steak that is juicy and flavorful still but not pink inside.
GingerbreadHousesAreDangerous
And that is why absolute psychopaths order them at chain restaurants.
buzzardman2
I can't imagine ordering it anywhere else. It's something really niche and takes a lot of practice to get done right.
TinyAngryDog
Cooking low with a lid over it works pretty well, if you happen to have one of those people to cook for, I used to.
astrangehop
No one ever has.
ilhares
Oh yes they have, and they're fucking magically delicious.
FailureTowne
It can be done pretty painlessly with a sous vide cooker
buzzardman2
Basically you never touch the meat other than to flip it once and to take it off. Also needs a basting liquid, I like olive oil to spoon on.
buzzardman2
On a grill I've seen people take apple cidar in a bottle and spray it onto the meat as it grills to help keep it from drying out
TodayIsSlapANaziDay
No. Even autistic people can be wrong.
servingmytimeinusersub
As a father of an autistic person. Oh yes... They so much can... BUT HE EATS HIS STEAK. MEDIUM RARE.
Waaaaghhumbug
Borderline, but within acceptable parameters.
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EatAFatDick
Sneemaster
I like steaks well done with ketchup. Maybe even mayo too.
ElbowDeep
Braised in Tostinos mild cheddar dip is the Superior steak cooking method
Evillairforrent
penzick
I feel like if you have to eat a well-done steak, ketchup might be your best hope of not choking on it.
stupidfuntime
I like ketchup on steak bombs and roast beef sandwiches, is that also bad?
Imallupinthebenz
williamtowel
What about if I only use ketchup on well done steaks cause at least I'll get some flavor out of it? Med-rare is my go to but sometimes you-
williamtowel
just gotta eat the food in front of you.
SheepySleepySmuggler
Acceptable, but you will have to eat a med-rare steak with no ketchup on it to prove it. And any complaints about it getting stuck in...
SheepySleepySmuggler
...your teeth will result in you being judged and found wanting.
scoutMoonDiver
Ketheres
Ketchup is good as a condiment or as a base for sauces. Just don't drown your food in it.
TuckerCarlsonWarnedYouTheredBeGirlsLikeMe
What if the food is bad and I don't want to taste it?
Ketheres
I guess you can drown it in your preferred liquid, though I suppose a stupidly hot sauce would be better for that. Those tend to overpower
Ketheres
all flavors anyway. RIPieces your asshole though.
cmsport2
DJTrickyM
What if I just don't like steak altogether?
drugieuk5772
You must be thinking of a stake, have you checked for a reflection?
SheepySleepySmuggler
Acceptable - not liking something is one thing. Committing a ketchup based hate crime is another...
alohaskywalker
Get the fuck outta here. People do that? Of fucking course people do. Its got to be the only way to choke down a well done steak.
thisismysociallife
ketchup is the single greatest condiment there is and it's umami flavors pair perfectly with steak .....I will die on this hill
ReaperCDN
Let's just nuke the entire hill from orbit.
Noobsauce2184
Then you will die weak, and forgotten, and your bloodline with thank you for it
NomadGray
Yes but the 30+% SUGAR does NOT
Thehatewizard
Then die
Gentlemannus
I'm here to take shifts on that hill if you got hungry whilst standing there
Evillairforrent
I heard there was a line for steaks covered in ketchup here?
froggy2therescue12
Yeah it start down the corner and too the left.
GeneralAnubis
noneofyourbussiness
Well I hope you're happy dying wrong
SpecialAgentPinkfinger
I respect your opinion, but you'll have to respect mine that you're not welcome in my house. Steak shouldn't need sause, ever.
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
To play devils advocate, the poster never said the steak NEEDED sauce, just that it paired well WITH this sauce. They aren't suggesting -/
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
Steak is inedible unless it has ketchup, just that the already great flavor of steak is increased by ketchup. Personally I rarely use -/
Flowerlady0
How is the steak cooked?
Dogman1227
It's not even well done anymore...it's congratulations at this point.
thisismysociallife
Med-rare to medium I prefer medium as the fat renders out a little more but well done is intact the true crime
Flowerlady0
Mmmmm........