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Source from Weibo.
Real situation of Coronavirus in Wuhan filmed by a Wuhan resident. He saw 8 corpses packed in yellow bag outside the hospital. He stayed in the hospital for around 5 mins and spotted total 11 deaths.
People literally died one by one. The number of death is shocking.
https://twitter.com/SavingHongKong/status/1223984722805551105
https://www.facebook.com/SavingHongKongers/videos/484623462471867/
Situation in Wuhan hospitals, people don't get suitable treatment
https://imgur.com/gallery/NllV18E
Chinese in Wuhan reveal that medical resources are far from enough for handling Chinese Coronavirus
https://imgur.com/gallery/OMElzFe
3 dead bodies in Wuhan hospital without any treatment, patients and medics are all in the same area
https://imgur.com/gallery/wcOiTmk
Wuhan patient got uncontrollable shaking after infected with Chinese Coronavirus
https://imgur.com/gallery/9KUBpVD
Chinese collapsing on streets due to Coronavirus
https://imgur.com/gallery/skXKEvj
Dead man found in Wuhan, suspiciously died from infecting with Chinese Coronavirus
https://imgur.com/gallery/YjYb10H
Will the Wuhan virus become a pandemic?
https://imgur.com/gallery/gAUs2b0
There could be many times more coronavirus cases in Wuhan than reported, researchers say
https://imgur.com/gallery/ddykAD0
First coronavirus death reported outside China
https://imgur.com/gallery/fytIAmN
CDC confirms first human-to-human transmission of coronavirus in U.S.
https://imgur.com/gallery/MzzEZMK
Thailand admits it is 'unable to stop the spread' of China's deadly coronavirus as health minister warns more cases are coming
https://imgur.com/gallery/zBX8oRp
Coronavirus: Japan and Germany confirm patients who caught disease did not visit China
https://imgur.com/gallery/qony5Wq
Graphics showing how quickly the Chinese Coronavirus has spread
https://imgur.com/gallery/NcaVHwK
5 million left Wuhan before lockdown, 1,000 new coronavirus cases expected in city
https://imgur.com/gallery/h39USEp
KN95 face masks production factory in China
https://imgur.com/gallery/vQJZA1g
Chinese collecting used masks, suspectedly going to resell them
https://imgur.com/a/tg9N2g0
China coronavirus: World Health Organisation not declaring virus’ spread a global emergency
https://imgur.com/gallery/65kP0dz
UK virus researchers estimate 250,000 people in Wuhan will have coronavirus in 13 days
https://imgur.com/gallery/II9oYKB
Chinese collapsing on streets due to Coronavirus
https://imgur.com/gallery/skXKEvj
First Chinese official died due to Chinese Coronavirus
https://imgur.com/gallery/j4oCmRg
Chinese city, Wuhan is now being isolated
https://imgur.com/gallery/RcDXj3T
China started construction on special hospital in Wuhan to treat coronavirus-infected patients
https://imgur.com/gallery/KNSxeui
Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program
https://imgur.com/gallery/5MlPrkE
Wuhan coronavirus has hit Xinjiang, where China has imprisoned at least 1 million Uighur Muslims. Its filthy detention camps will make inmates sitting ducks.
https://imgur.com/gallery/cFJRHx3
queenxo
Time to start burning corpses
gebotodd6
I'm not making light of this,but more people are dying every day from the flu...
Isorikk
What's the point of the suits if they're just casually walking in and out of quarantine and taking breaks in the suit..?
BaIdr
Wasn’t that just the laundry in the minibus?
hamalaKarris
Why TF would you get that close to eight dead bodies that died from a communicable disease, that or the brass vaccine (bullet).
klingon6
If it’s your time to go it’s your time to go!!
yakiudon
spaizkadett
You are fearmongering!
WeaponizedJerk
"People literally died one by one" No shit sherlock :D (sorry had to)
quartershadow
Weird that during outbreaks people become virologists who know more than the international experts
AUGACUGAAUCGUCGUAG
What do you mean "become" a pandemic? It already is
REAGANSMASH84
Those people could have died from anything, lots of people die in hospitals every day, 8 bodies could be the daily norm
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
But that wouldn't fit with the propaganda operation that is put in place.
Theresmyothersock
Can we get a translator?
yakiudon
yes, $25 fee
jackthezipper
BRING OUT YER DEAD!!
Alkyone
*everything China is bad and evil and Hong Kong is the true voice of everything right*
Tarkust
this website sucks
drGrafenberg
I still wonder what the real death toll is by now.
Gerazius
305 confirmed deaths so far https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
maincarrot
Over 9000
cookiesandcreams
Does somebody has a spreadsheet with the basics? how long is it activ outside of a host? Morbidityrate? ways of contamination? _
cookiesandcreams
_ how is it spread ? .Vaccine availability. ... and so on. For all thinkable Viruses? Measels, Ebola, 2019-nCoV, "normal" flu?
cookiesandcreams
_avian influenza... and so on.
tg2222222
Of course they died one by one. That's how people die.
ozjuggler
You really haven't drunk the Kool-Aid on this one, have you? :D
NastyWetSmear
I'm gonna die at exactly the same time as someone else, just to prove you wrong, stranger on the internet!
SugaryBonemeal
They aren't just covering up the real numbers, they're also covering up the cases where 2+ people decide they'd rather die chainsaw jousting
JimmyKraktov
People dying from a runaway virus and you go and take close-up video? Something's not right here.
middleburgh
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2020/02/01/explainer-7-reasons-hongkongers-angry-govt-response-coronavirus/
Shade169
theres several reasons that china is the most likely ground zero for a worldwide pandemic - and why they hate being reminded of that
Callistan
Large, high-density population, significant interface between humans and livestock/wildlife, regions where sanitation is poor, regions with
Callistan
Warm and humid climates, etc.
Tarmaccian
...and it’s worth noting that none of that is related to ideology.
SugaryBonemeal
Except that it is. The way their society has functioned for the recent forever is the cause of most of those problems (apart from climate)
s4ndwich3s
over 10.000 people die annually from influenza in the us alone. enough with the stupid fear mongering.
vwbruce
this didnt age well did it...
HenryLongfellowIII
More like 65,000 in a bad year and 750,000 hospitalized so 8% die. In the US alone.
CrestKnight
swine flu had a higher infection rate and death % (over 1.4mil, and 17% death).coronavirus 10k / 2% (of which its the elderly/immune comp)
NinjaHoff
Statistics are great to have imo, but we also have to consider that this is from china and politics will greatly affect the accuracy of data
CrestKnight
sure, maybe all of chinas infected, but even if we go solely off the cases in the US, its fairly tame and just another common cold.
ishotjfktwice
I tell my patients As of this moment you should be more concerned about getting a flu shot but then I’ll get someone who works retail or
ishotjfktwice
In an office with NO medical trading or background tell me it’s the end of the world
CrestKnight
like i can understand quarantine at the start, or attempting to control any new disease, sure, but at this point its just propaganda/fear.
ishotjfktwice
I remember years ago another Ebola thing was happening and I was new and I’ll be honest I was pretty sketched out and all the old timers
ishotjfktwice
We’re just like “hell yea! We’re getting paid to sit in this meeting and do nothing” and I’m like sweating and freaking out and they saw
ThisIsGerbilReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Activate the Red Queen
SlAM113
Activate The Division
infiniteblueprint
that's not a manchurian candidate reference is it ?
xahul
Resident evil movie.
infiniteblueprint
thought i had my references mixed up after posting the scrolling down...thanks for clarifying though :-)
TheRedQueenIsDead
Uhhhh....
Filanwizard
Maybe someone turned her off. Nothing got out until Umbrella Rent-a-SWAT turned her off
SugaryBonemeal
I recall there being some nasty stuff outside the mansion and such. I know there were zombie dogs loose for sure, and psycho crows
BobHubert
Our college canceled all trips (students and faculty going to teach) to China because of the outbreak
InternetFail
Same
melancholymerriment
SomeGrayFox
I fucking hated everything about that scene.
ThenILickItOff
Movie?
sarikitty
Resident Evil, the first one (2002)
TheSkepticDyslexicNihilist
You’re all going to die down here.
nigelstanfordfan237
Mehh.
BeerBatteredandBold
Promise?
ShooterV12
We also have recovered cases.
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kodiak931155
For perspective, If you get catch it you have a 98% chance of survival. Even H1N1 had a worse survival rate of 82.6%. essentially as long
kodiak931155
As you dont have other major medical problems youll be fine.
reineseele
^ that. but the media these days hasn't any responsibility to inform people. instead deadly virus and stuff hits the streets. Well done...
Callistan
If the media isn’t telling us things like survival rates, where’s the information coming from, I wonder?
kodiak931155
My sources were the CDC and the UN:WHO
PerkyPervertedPet
My media did tell me.
Plaguestorm172
Yes it has a higher survival rate, but it also has a higher spreading rate. so its still concerning.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
To be fair, that is not to say this is not a disease to take seriously, the very old and very YOUNG are at risk here.
ColClone54
True. Spanish Flu outbreak and other epidemics, even Ebola has survivors. Yet it seems that people are dying a lot. Concern not panic.
ColClone54
China seems to have covered up more than was first thought. But no government would underestimate, would they? Naw...
ChoovaMonster
Dude. Spanish flu killed 50 million people in two years. Faster than the black plague. People coughed so hard they broke their ribs.
ChoovaMonster
Highest death to time ratio of any pandemic. People may have survived but it killed all age groups regardless of health. We didn't report it
sk666sk
STOP EATING ANYTHING THAT FUCKING MOVES !!!
brusilov
While i totally agree, this sentiment reminds me of "stop being poor"
Tarmaccian
Fun fact: there’s essentially no evidence nCoV came from any food. It’s as close to bat CoV as humans are close to elephants.
Shift137
WHAT ABOUT JELLO!?!?!?!
DrogorMarkilson
JELLO IS FINE!
Shift137
THANK GOD
Irreal
*Continues to eat pangolin jello*
DrogorMarkilson
JELLO GOOD FOOD
Mombeater
Hey @SavingHongKong do you think the Wuhan outbreak was intentionally started to draw attention away from the HK protests?
GoodEarthBetweenMyToes
Why attribute to conspiracy what you can chalk-up to incompetence?
mikeatike
Its pretty unlikely. But I wouldn't put capitalizing on a tragedy last them.
leopardspotster
Sure China doesn’t care about human lives at all so good possibility.
DaveTheScientist
But they do care about their image, and right now it's not great thanks to the virus.
leopardspotster
And of course the awful things they’ve been doing in Hong Kong for a while now.
DaveTheScientist
Honestly, I imagine they would think HK makes them look weak.
RackhamTheRed
Their pop and in turn their cent gov cared very little for the HK protests. Their economy is going to take a very big hit from this. Ergo
RackhamTheRed
they would have had zero intention to even consider something like this.
memorminey
Maybe the States? “US Comm Sec Wilbur Ross said the coronavirus could “help” to bring jobs to the US as companies moved ops away from China”
savemebabyjebus
Ive been saying this since we first heard about it and always got downvoted to hell. Its entirely possible
notashill
Besides with 25yrs of one child their pop distribution of age is heavily weighted toward the elderly. So theyll have few people taking care
notashill
Of many. It would likely wipe most.of the retirees out. While attacking HK indirectly
owlest
no thats a stupid thing to say
override367
it's also causing massive economic damage, China could have distracted from HK in other ways, you're being dumb
brusilov
Coronavirus can't melt steel beams
Whatsname
Links or you are just another idiot making noises.
Callistan
Yes.... they decided to intentionally create a deadly disease that has caused massive disruptions to their domestic and foreign economies to
Callistan
Distract from a set of protests that was already receiving less attention in the Western world... Also because bioengineering a disease in a
Callistan
Lab is definitely how science works...
SMB42
It's good sarcasm! Don't know why so many are quick to down vote on Imgur..
TroegsBeer4life
And China covered it up for a month in a half before it got really bad.
ruferto
they also started working on it simulatenously, but yea that too
Christx30
his is like something out of a bad outbreak movie I'm convinced this was engineered by China to cull their Uighur population in the camps.
iwantsomemushu
A month in a half.
dspillett
There was so much covering up to do, they had to engage a temporal dilation device to get it done in half the time.
iwantsomemushu
Oh okay. I gt it now.
Fyremusik
Was actually more than a month. At least 1.5months before. Some doctor got into trouble for talking about it then and censored. (or worse?)
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
No. Li Wenliang's warning came on Dec 30th. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html
Fyremusik
You're right, that's the one I was thinking of.
RackhamTheRed
They started arresting doctors on the 30th dec and the WHO confirmed them the existence of 2019nCoV on the 9th Jan. Hardly 65 days
WhenitD0
Not that I dont believe you but do you have any sauce on the doctor arrests?
RackhamTheRed
There is a pretty decent timeline on what is/became public know on wikipedia. I'll see if I can find it and comment next
RackhamTheRed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak there you go
WhenitD0
Cool, thank you!
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
Li Wenliang was summoned by the police. Source/Details: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html
WhenitD0
Thank you for this. Shocking stuff
TheGreatBlueWaffle
Covered? You mean CoverING. Have no doubt, they're still hiding the real numbers, or are too incompetent to find them. Probably both.
RackhamTheRed
Neither enough kits nor enough ppl to use them...
IlluminaBlade
I say it's a scheme to make protesting too dangerous and to disappear literally anyone and say they died of illness.
bChrispy
Like chernobyl, due to politics this'll get way worse before they'll actually admit how big of an issue it is
SugaryBonemeal
Does...does this mean we'll get to cover up the Chinese government so that it can't leak out and contaminate the world further?
SugaryBonemeal
I fucked up my own joke. I meant to say "Cover the Chinese government in concrete"
TheGreatBlueWaffle
3.6% death rate. Not great, not terrible.
bChrispy
I get the meme, but it's kinda terrible when you let it spread to more than 10k before you do something...
TheGreatBlueWaffle
This is Communist China. They don't care about the people. Thousands could die and nobody would bat an eye. They've done it several times.
edgaropolous
EnderPanda13
Also the people probably realize now that if they go to the hospital they will most likely not walk out alive.
reineseele
Coronavirus is like a flu with no vaccine for it. Only if your immune system is already weakened or extreme cases it is deadly.stop hysteria
TheGreatBlueWaffle
How healthy do you think the average Chinaman is, especially in the cities? Us Westerners may be safe, but these people aren't.
TheOberhouser
People die from the flu too, but with 1st world health care the corona virus isn't really that scary, not that the news would admit that
tuathanari
It's not that it's particularly lethal, just easy to spread and zero immunity = potentially overwhelmed hospitals that can't help everyone
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neithermenoryou
China has top notch health care, if you can afford it or are important to the CCP. Everyone else gets second grade care at best. China is
EclipticRanger
But other country’s have done their own research on it so I think it’s just the media being the media and over hyping the virus
Joabsworth
Are the deaths related to an age bracket or any underlying health issues?
Illthinkofausernamelater
China is also much more populated and with much less access to amenities like decent hospitals than most first world countries.
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Callistan
Can you elaborate on that methodology further? The mortality rate I’ve read is 2%, which is significantly different. I’m wary of some sort
Callistan
Of statistical trickery being used to come up with those numbers.
PrincessBride1
China has been covering up. Still refusing help from outside like CDC, too. May be like SARS initially reported low death toll
meta666
Same potential victims as regular flu. So far the virus has not exceeded annual flu deaths in number.
theswissgirl
Good question, are they doing of not being taking good care, health issues or the virus? Or all
KarateCanine
Does that matter?
RackhamTheRed
The older and the worse the precondition the worse your chances, same as SARS in this regard.
skellington01
Quick calculation: 98% survival rate. My guess is most deaths are older/younger people, and maybe people with a compromised immune system
PrincessBride1
Initially SARS was reported at 3%. Real facts came out & turned out to be 9.6% which probably means some reasonably healthy folks died.
SkeuomorphicallyInclined
https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/ewwmem/have_a_question_about_the_2019_novel_coronavirus/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=shar
leopardspotster
Maybe underlying issue of being citizen of horrible dystopian nightmare country, that’s also an asshoe.
thanatos777
If it's being a citizen of a horrible dystopian nightmare country that's killing people, America is fucked.
analnipple666
leopardspotster
It’s like America & China have same goals, just different ways to get there.
shigetsu
disclaimer: im not deeply knowledgeable on this. please dont take me at 100%. but, from what ive learned and seen the virus is easily>
shigetsu
>transmitted but not overly lethal to healthy individuals with proper care. complications are primarily respiratory infection last a saw>
shigetsu
> the biggest threat of this virus as with any sickness is to the young, old, and compromised. but for the general populace its the simple>
shigetsu
> fact that its newly jumped to us (originally was an animal strain) and therefore almost nobody has any resistance
flamingflamingo
That seems to be true, based on the number of (or rather, lack of) deaths in cases outside of mainland China. Even HK is doing fine.
shigetsu
however my knowledge is multiple days old now and the information on this is getting more accurate every day i just cant keep up with it all
JaceCameron
It has a 20% mortality rate from what i hear. The regular issues people with immune issues the elderly etc.
TheHourGrowsLate
I believe that it's a *2%* mortality rate, not *20%*.
JaceCameron
You are right. I read it wrong. Its less than 5%. Right now the common flu kills more people annually
drspangle
But common flu has a much lower mortality rate. If this spread as wide as flu, it would overtake it. And by then it's too late to control
TheHourGrowsLate
Yes, this has about 10x the mortality rate of the regular flu. Of course, that 2% estimate will likely drop, since we really don't have a
TheHourGrowsLate
People are acting like this is the new black plague, so I can understand why you'd expect it to be so high.
MonkeyHittingPianoDramatically
An issue I hear is that since its a "new" virus, lot of people are being infected at the same time, zero to low resistance in the global pop
Valentino46
They have all been exposed to dihydrogen monoxide
phillipsnelson
yes everyone that has died ever has been exposed to this.
Callistan
Yes, similar to a typical flu outbreak, the people most likely to die are very young, very old, or immunocompromised.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
And, y'know, China is not known for having the best healthcare, their M.O is more "lock them up until it dies off, literally"
steviedrawsdinos
That, and they're quarantining but not treating.
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DongSayaDae
19 000 000 estimated with flu, and 10000 estimated deaths, so ~0.5%. Taken from the source that your source has listed.
RDDking
Are you high? 10000 people dead out of 19 mil infected is a death rate of .05%
Bobblebob
DongSayaDae
Ehm... yeah no, you used an american outlet so let me post the cdc here : https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
drspangle
Wasn't the youngest person to die of it 36? I've not heard anything about the very young being killed by it
Anhor
I didn't hear of any deaths of very young but that's imo mostly because those aren't as often in situations in which they could get infected
DrogorMarkilson
youngest i heard was around d46
DrogorMarkilson
*46
DrogorMarkilson
actually 44.
IDidMyBest
Woho! I'm gonna die last.
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
Hold on omw
brusilov
Not very millennial of you
BGonz
He did his best.