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So San Francisco has this public transportation system called BART. Recently there have been a number of violent robberies on its train services. Instead of releasing video surveillance of the incident as is common to help identify the perpetrators, BART withheld the video so as not to "perpetuate racial stereotypes". After some backlash they tried to update it by saying it was really due to some of the suspects being minors, however their original comments are public. I want to ask how as a society we have become so politically correct we can't release video evidence of an unsolved crime being commited because it might make a group of people look bad. Security cameras are not racist, they can't be, they just record the facts. How can the undeniable, provable, recorded facts be racist. If they'd released the video, no sane citizen would have even commented on race. But now we can't show footage of criminals still on the loose because they're a minority and it might be mean to other minorities. This isn't about race, it's about political correctness gone too far. It has stopped being constructive and has started to actively hurt society. Why is common sense being abandoned.
biolologist
The only one here who drank the koolaid is @op
Skizzlesnap
Must of been a bunch of white kids.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
he great irony being that because they're refusing to release footage we know they're ALL black people.
TakWriterOfWorlds
Cameras aren't racist, people are. It's possible they've released footage in the past and been flooded by racist tips.
w0od
You can bet if the perps were white their faces would be shown all over...
allthenamesaregone
Jesus tittyfucking christ on a bike this is next-level stupidity. I fear for the future of humanity.
ThisCommentWillGetDownVoted
So they're definitely black...
Lyrian
God I'd be so angry if someone tried to rob me during my morning commute. Just fuck it and kill me, or go down fighting.
stopitlucas
Maybe some of the conservatives are right. This country is soft
YeahDaddySpinOnMyAss
If an ethnic group of people are organising violent crime then why shouldn't they be persecuted? Not all white people are bad, ect ect
trekkiedane
You answered your own question with the words: "no sane citizen". Clearly those are a minority all of their own.
WilliamElse
It's not what you all think. They were Frenchmen with berets, stripy sweaters, baguettes and strings of onions. Real hardcore stereotypes.
TheHellbilly
Wise words, OP.
TheseAreMcSqizziesNuts
And now I know if I'm not white and I cboose to commit a crime on the BART I do not need to worry about no stupid security camera. Awesome!
Blamblam101
Since it's SF I thought the race might be latino, so they didn't want people to immediately think immigrant.
cantcornerthewarner
"they tried to update it by saying it was really due to some of the suspects being minors" poor optics but that is a legit reason
GyroPunk
First found this story Via MikeTheCop, when I post stories however I use TheMail as it's format is easiest to take a pic/post of.
TheDogBurt
Isn't that obstruction?
PissInMyToasterOven
To the front page, if that's happening then make the people of the Bay Area aware. Regardless of politics
overcookedchickennugget
Is this the Onion ? It sure looks like it.
GyroPunk
I made a comment addressing the sauce if you really wanna find it.
mibango
"By dailymail reporter"
overcookedchickennugget
Someone can't see the sarcasm here.
biolologist
Parroting a bullshit story from dailymail... what a joke you are.
GyroPunk
If it's bullshit then tell the ten other major news affiliates that have the story as well, the mail's format looks best when taken a pic of
biolologist
PrisonPlanet and InfoWars aren't major news affiliates.
GyroPunk
You know this information isn't secret, you should Google the story and read the news sources. Takes 2 seconds
biolologist
Yet you couldn't be bothered to even post a link. Get fucked, you lazy alt-reich cunt.
GyroPunk
Oh, you caught me, I'm a Nazi, just love me some Kaki pants and goosesteppin. Say have you heard of our Lord and saviour Adolf Hitler?
lilwillywallet
Crime has no race, people just get upset/ sensitive over shit that really shouldn't even matter in the first place
Oddfish
1) You're really sucking all the cum out of Fox news' dick with this one aren't ya, OP? The surveillance footage is of course given to
GyroPunk
I reviewed the story Via cbs, knron4, and fox before posting, all agreed on the facts, and the statement. Varied sources, same message
Oddfish
4) blown way out of proportion. The video is only being withheld from the press. And honestly, who cares? The info pertenent to the public
Oddfish
5) is readily accessible. The info pertinent to the police is readily accessible. This article is a writer with an agenda digging around
Oddfish
7) P.S. Get fucked, man. Really, fuck you. I'm so sick of you edgelord Reddit/4Chan/Imgur white boys bitching about "PC Culture". Pathetic.
TheEightfoldPath
Sounds like you are a wee bit racist m8.
Oddfish
6) desperately for material. And you were just the right doofus to take the bait and express the "outrage" they were trying to elicit.
Oddfish
3) director for the BART outlined her plan for the companies policy to a board of directors. Typical beaurocratic/corporate fair. This is
letstalknews
If there minors you cant release the video.....this may not be about race as much as you want it to be....sorry.
DeepFriedAndSanctified
http://communications-media.lawyers.com/privacy-law/child-photography-or-videotaping-consent-laws-are-changing.html
stfleming1
Pretty sure 'racial stereotypes' do not encompass minors.
letstalknews
Pretty sure i don't work for that company and i didn't put out the statement so maybe call them and bitch to them.
DeepFriedAndSanctified
Stations may have a policy against showing such footage, but I don't know of a legal reason why they couldn't.
letstalknews
B/c they are minors without parental consent you cant show them.
DeepFriedAndSanctified
And you have some sort of statute or ordinance to prove that?
letstalknews
That's a well known thing everywhere in the US. You cant use a child's image without parental consent...how dont you know this?
DeepFriedAndSanctified
So, your response is "It is known"? There is no expectation of privacy when you are in public and laws only prevent commercial or 1/1
Aslatra
I'm not fluent in UK law, but if it's an unsolved crime how would they be certain it was a minor doing it?
letstalknews
This didnt happen in the UK....how did you not read any of the attached story?
Aslatra
Because it's late and I'm tired and it said google.co.uk. My bad? I'm also not familiar with California law if it makes you feel better.
nafalan
If someone made a statement like that for a public transport company they are getting sacked
dazuk85
To be fair this is in the daily mail. It is likely lies.... if an immigrant saved a family from a house fire the headline would be 1/2
GyroPunk
I use the mail for the pictures because it's format looks best for moving the picture onto Imgur. It's a true story, feel free to look it up
dazuk85
Immigrant watches building burn in insurance scam
troubledanthropomorphichorse
Be careful with that independent thought, the circlejerk is in full swing down here.
SonOfLucifer
by wanting to avoid racist stereotyping of suspects, they are racially stereotyping the suspects...
biolologist
Or maybe the story is full of shit...
Fairdinkums
Probably even more so
DaymanUHAHUHFighteroftheNightmanUHAHUHChampionoftheSunUHAHUH
Exactly. Just based on the context and knowing it's some mediocre quality surveillance footage, I'm assuming the perpetrators are black.
TheEightfoldPath
What?? I thought they were magpies!
rightwing66
An old, old response: if they were white, they would have told us.
renani
The footages are not racist, but those who see might be. In some cases, they likely are. This BAR just insulted two groups..
renani
San Francisco as whole (because they are presumebly racist) and the minority.
Legdig
Justice is blind and your race should not be a factor, a criminal is a criminal and should be charged as such.
armeggedonCounselor
And if the world was perfect, we'd all be happy.
biolologist
Cool. That has nothing at all to do with this.
ArtOzz
I read a UK guy killed a 5yo over a LOST SHOE in public and got 18 years. I was like, oh, so thats how long to revive the kid? My point is
ArtOzz
that we hardly apply justice to criminals. Just tell them not to do it again.
useless3y3s
Cameras record facts, humans interpret those facts different ways. Yes this is dumb, but if they don't want to release it to the public 1/2
useless3y3s
But have already released it to the police, then they have done their job.
DormantGolem
I do agree with you but wouldnt releasing the footage to the public help to identify the criminals in itself i mean there are amber alert 1/
DormantGolem
For reasons such as this one /2
useless3y3s
If it were to help, the problem is that people's memory is terrible and they have zero ability to distinguish features on grainy video.
useless3y3s
The main problem is that visual information is subject to your memory, so about 75% of what you see is filled in by your brain and what 1/2
JeremyBeadlesStrongerHand
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal This happened where I live, for a similar reason. Ridiculous.
biolologist
Except that this story is made up
TheEightfoldPath
The story is made up? What kind of lying sack of shit are you? Children were brutally raped and you say "sorry, it ain't real". Fuck off.
JeremyBeadlesStrongerHand
He means the story in the main post, I think.
JeremyBeadlesStrongerHand
Doesn't really detract from the issues presented in the story I linked though, does it?
biolologist
Considering they have nothing in common, who cares?
JeremyBeadlesStrongerHand
Yeah man. Who fucking cares?
biolologist
Yes, who cares about your conflation of two completely unrelated and different in every way events.