Some people are just assholes

Mar 16, 2016 8:30 PM

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A group of divers made a disturbing discovery last week while exploring near the remote island of Kokoya, in Indonesia.

There, trapped inside cages on the shallow ocean floor, were two dugongs — rare marine mammals closely related to manatees.

One of the divers, Delon Lim, told The Dodo that the animals, also known as "sea cows," appeared to be a mother and her calf held in separate cages. While the younger dugong was kept without restraint, the adult was bound by a rope wrapped around her tail.

The pair had been captured by a local fisherman, apparently to profit from tourists.

"He asked for some money if we want to see the dugong or take a picture," Lim said.

Although it's unclear how long the dugongs were held captive, Lim suspects they'd been trapped for more than several weeks.

"It seems so," he said. "The ropes are worn and torn. The scars and the wound on her tail are so deep. It was very heartbreaking."

The divers were allowed to enter the cages with the adult dugong, capturing photos and video of her unimaginable ordeal.

Not wanting the animals to continue suffering in that sad state, the divers tried to convince their captor to set them free, informing him that dugongs are a protected species vulnerable to extinction.

"When we left the island, the fisherman agreed to release them," Lim said. "But since we were not so convinced he would, I posted the video to social media." The other divers did as well.

And it's a good thing that they did. Within hours, Lim was contacted by wildlife authorities requesting the location of the cages. The next day, officials descended on the spot and found the animals still trapped.

That's when they were finally set free.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7006064/Shocking-photos-showing-helpless-sea-animals-CHAINED-inside-underwater-cages.html

All of you should watch black fish so you can be sadder

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Aww poor guys

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Why didnt they contact the authorities instantly by themselves?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Pokemon! Gotta catch em all

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'd write abt education & cooperation in conservation but 140 char aint enuff. Do something or at least donate instead of hating. +1 @OP tho

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

This is why I like social media.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

dugong fucked up now!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Asshat captor should have used a pokeball and given them regular exercise instead.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 9

I was riding the same thought train as you. You didn't deserve that downvote, whoever gave it to you. I got you man.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Everybody has one, some people are them...Assholes

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm guessing by the cages mere existence that this has been going on for more than a few weeks.

10 years ago | Likes 91 Dislikes 3

It's not hard to make a cage

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Now pay those locals to stop the capture of dugongs and protect them! Incentivize protective behaviors rather than exploitive ones

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Argh, come on people, stop being such arseholes!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nice to know it's not just Americans who are considered 'assholes' on here.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

on the Internet the only answer to violence is more violence

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

fuck yeah, i want blood mate!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And yet we do the same to cows and pigs for their whole lives without blinking an eye. (Note: not vegetarian, but I eat free-range animals.)

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

Oh we bat an eye alright, but most feel powerless to stop it.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Ughhhh I hate people

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 6

*poor people

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Here's a link to the release tweet: https://twitter.com/psdkp_lan2/status/709270349850914816

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We do exactly the same with normal cows, how is this any different? Cuntfucks

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 6

I didn't click "show bad replies", so why am I looking at this fucking brain fart?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's amazing how we can so easily sit on our hypocritical moral high ground with no real consideration of what we do

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Yeah man, totally. We have them on ropes of maybe 4 meters that cut into their flesh and cows are also endangered, so tourist pay to seethem

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

Many cows are in cages smaller than a 4 meter rope. How does being "endangered" make something like this more cruel?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Does this doesnt care that some animals will go extinct if they use them as a toerist attraction in an unnatural enviroment. Then back to /

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The rope, it cuts in the animals flesh which also states that the person who does this doesnt care about anything other then money.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I dont know where you live, but here they dont. Being endangered doesnt make this more cruel to the animal but states that the person who /

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You think they did it on porpoise?

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 7

dolphinitely

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

People are fucking disgusting.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

*some

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

*poor

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Living on Koh Samui, I see things like this all the time, It will not stop until tourists stop paying for their "cute" holiday pictures.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So, put the fisherman in the cage and let the sea cows go

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Put the farmer in the cage and let the cows go.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

TIL Dugongs an Manatees are different animals

10 years ago | Likes 76 Dislikes 3

Very curious, indeed.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dugongs and manatees are different, but they're both 'sea cows' or Sirenia (a taxonomic order).

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They are however, both closely related to mermaids.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think manatees have a rounded tail while dugongs have the traditional dual pointed tail.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

And manatees are genrally rounder and fatter i guess

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I mean this is fucked up but Indonesia is like really fucking poor tho

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's fucked up.

10 years ago | Likes 721 Dislikes 2

My friend is confused, what is wrong with what he did?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

HOLYSHIT! my damn phone showed me a totally different post when I commented this! And I was so confused of the comments!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

well, its like a smaller version of sea world right there...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's like riding elephants in Asia. They are not enjoying it. They are doing it out of fear of being tortured... again.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

v en assholes....

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty sure any tourist who was taken to that would take pictures and go straight to the police.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah he was making money and they let them go! (kidding) uhg can't believe I have to say that.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Poverty man. Solve poverty and desperation and we solve most of this shit

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

When you solve poverty greed kicks in. And people are sick enough to do anything to have more money

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't believe we can really say so if we don't even try. Look at denmark - happiest country bcos equality.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It's a sick world

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Yulin dog meat festival june this year in china. Do everything to stop it.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yet eating cows and pigs is totally fine?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Not about eating them. About the torture. Boiling alive. Nailgunning to a wall and burning their hair off. alive. Skinning them alive. Idiot

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

WOW. That is extremely fucking disturbing probably the worst I've heard of and I've seen some shit. I'll do the most I can.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Is a zoo fucked up in your eyes too?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Not all zoos are like that though- Many of them are rescued from being "pets" or were injured, unable to return to a life in the wild.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yes. I can not go to a zoo. Its fucked. fucking gross stone cold humans

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yup. Never visited one. It makes me really sad to see animals caged for entertainment

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yulin dog meat festival june this year in china. Do everything to stop it.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah I was worried they were dead since it looked like it was captured a long time ago with the old chains. Luckily that wasn't the case

10 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 0

You don't know how many have been there before...

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I always thought it was Dewgong

10 years ago | Likes 192 Dislikes 3

Thought so too, so I was reading them as dungeons at first while skimming through it and was confused.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The dungeon, related to the wordbank

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I always thought it was only a pokemon, I never heard the animal being called that. Nice to know where it comes from!

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

That's the Pokemon, so you're half correct.

10 years ago | Likes 132 Dislikes 1

yeah but dewgong is a seal with a horn

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

No, that's Seel.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Dewgong still has a small horn.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Look, it's just cold underwater, ok?

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Narwhal?

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I'm amazed that at good people who don't immediately beat the shit out of jackwads like these. Far more control than I have.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 4

So am I. I think partly they are afraid to fight, which helps them not beat the shit out of these kinda scumbags.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

The animals on your plate need your help. Go beat up yourself.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 7

If it makes you feel better, I don't eat octopus out of respect. Too damn smart.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

FOUND THE VEGAN....but seriously this is an endangered species being treated cruelly, most of the meat on ones plate is killed quickly

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hey Dovery. most farm animals are treated cruel. https://youtu.be/ZdFsZDV4MP8?t=1h19m8s

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Killing something quickly doesnt mean that the animal hasnt been treated cruel. :)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

This is symptomatic of a large population in a country, not eating them. I'm from Venezuela we don't have giant mills like those.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah it's easy to judge the actions of an impoverished 3rd world fisherman with your computer and stable life.

10 years ago | Likes 85 Dislikes 30

Same could be said for people selling their 10 year old daughters to pedos to rape for the night over in Iran - there's always a reason for

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

inflicting unimaginable horror on another being-there's never a fucking excuse. He should be killed, can't have that evil in the gene pool.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

Sadly, this is correct. People need to eat, feed their families, ect. It doesn't make it okay, but this is the world we live in. Its stupid.

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

I mean, if you're that poor maybe don't have kids.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

If anyone to blame it's the tourists who pay for it. Fishermen are just trying to support themselves.

10 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 2

^^^ Goddamn this. The fisherman isn't in the right, but the fucking tourists should know better and not support this kind of thing.

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Tourist mentality, like the people who took selfies with a dying dolphin the crowd plucked from the water.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

That was fucked up too. Sad thing is, I know all too many good people that would have been caught up in that Hoopla. I see it all 1)

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

the time with baby seals that beach themselves. "Ohh, baby seal, lets gather around and take pictures with it."

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fuck those fishermen. When i lived in indonesia i saw them all the time throwing their garbage in the ocean. Fuk them.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Are there garbage collectors where they live?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

If they werent so corrupt and shit there might be.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Same thing happens at Seaworld and we've all been there. I'm waiting for them 'Black Fish' to drop rap albums about their emancipation XD

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

I read an article about that there will be no more killer whales in Seaworld, at least that's something

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The majority of those fisherman earn an honest living, this is just greedy and cruel. What gives this fisherman the right to break laws?

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

An 'Honest Living' is a relative term for a third world country.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That's like, you can criticize a contract killer if he is poorer than you. Morally wrong is morally wrong. But I get your point.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh bite me, just because you are impoverished does not give you a "get out of jail free card" for morality.

10 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 31

Just because your sense of morality places animals and people on the same level doesn't mean everybody has that same morality

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

I'm just saying, it's a lot easier to judge from the economic high ground. I'm willing to be most people commenting are far from poor.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

Uh, before you start pointing fingers, go to a third world country and see first hand the desperation. Its sad but true.

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 8

Look at the homeless of our own country and tell me how much better their lives are.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 10

However in "our country"assuming you're in america, we tend to sweep the poor under the rug. In other places that just cant happen, too many

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Kinda my point, except in some countries the "homeless" are entire cities - or damn near. People will do what they must to survive, sadly.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Do you know some of the shit they will do to survive. It's pure desperation. If in the same situation as these fisherman they likely 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

would have done the same and I honestly can't pretend that I blame them. 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

What makes the comfort of a dugong outweigh the comfort of a human, and who's to tell that you wouldn't make the same decision?

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 7

Innocent things are entitled to a life free of torture. And I am, I know for a fact that I wouldn't.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 6

Do you? Have you been put in that situation? Are your convictions actually that strong, or do you not have the guts to stick with them?

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

I've been put into worse situations, and I know exactly how strong my convictions are. My code is iron and I stick to it no questions.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

Humans aren't exactly an endangered species.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

And a creature being endangered makes its comfort more important? If so, then you should feel inclined to cede your life to save a dugong.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Doesn't excuse treating them like shit and having them be subjected to a life of famine and extreme poverty

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Who said I was forcing them to? Their governments are the ones who need to get their collective shit together.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Now put those local fishermen in a cage with a rope around their ankle/sell tickets to tourists. Proceeds go to marine wildlife preserves.

10 years ago | Likes 1980 Dislikes 47

gotta make them fight a shark

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Make sure the fisherman's cages are underwater too.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

Under water...?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

-A quote from PETA (but in all seriousness they definetly need to atone for their crimes

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

By that logic, anyone should be allowed to eat you, like you eat other animals

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I don't get how people think so terribly of these fishermen and then proceed to bash vegans. Chickens are treated worse in a pen.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Free range chickens

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Because chicken is delicious and dugongs, to my knowledge, are not.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

It's still wrong. You just like meat more than seeing dugongs up close, which is fine. I eat meat, but I leave vegans the fuck alone

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's like saying I won't kill for $10, but will for $10k. Fuck people who'll never kill for money and won't shut up about how you shouldn't

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This. I'm seeing too many comments vilifying him.. But people go to extremes bc they're poor.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

As much as it'd be satisfying to our egotistical & emotional selves, that'd only beget more impoverished fishermen who'd justify this stuff.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

That would make us just as bad as them. The eye for en eye "justice" is bullshit.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Is your name Hammurabi?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

and make their child suffer just out of reach for good measure

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

Lol morals are a fickle thing here.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

um. I thought this went without saying, but I do not actually think this is a thing that should happen

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Yulin dog meat festival june this year in china. Do everything to stop it.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's torture... If some one does bad shit, you don't do bad shit, because then bad shit you deserve.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

and several weeks later, dugong tourists comes by demanding the human be freed as they were an endangered species(1)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

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10 years ago (deleted Mar 17, 2016 2:00 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

(3) location of the cages

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

TBH probably these fishermen are uneducated with low income and sometimes forces to do this sort of things due to big fat hotel chains 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 4

You're 100% correct. Unless you've see what happens in the 3rd world, its hard to understand true desperation.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

claiming beaches (and water included) that said fishermen need.

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

Maybe just for a few days. But then after, give him $300 to try to start a decent life where he doesn't' have to resort to such cruelty.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Also, make sure the cage is underwater.

10 years ago | Likes 453 Dislikes 14

I always thought about this. To torture a being who can come back to life after dying. Trap them underwater for an eternity of suffering.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Right at the edge of the water, at low tide.

10 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 3

well i mean they could just dig out

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Depends on how well the rope is secured.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not if the cage has a floor.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Damn son your girlfriend a marine mammal?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, just like ironic punishments and that seems the best way to recreate the extended terror and suffering the dewgong probably experienced

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

well no, then they'd be dead you see

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

That's the joke

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

well you see, they cant laugh if they're dead

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I can laugh, they just won't hear me.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And on fire.

10 years ago | Likes 231 Dislikes 5

This escalated quickly

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Elevated*

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Meow <3

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And riding on a cheetah's back

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A magnesium cage could work it burns hot enough to separate hydrogen and oxygen from water to fuel itself.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oil is a wondrous thing, lets get some Greek fire going on down there!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sir,

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Uhhh

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

Also with Sharks with laser beams on their heads.

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

*frickin laser beams on their frickin heads

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I survived the fire at seaparks!

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

a fire... at seaparks!!!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

at first I immediately agreed, but a small part of me thinks if you're in a poverty level job in a third world country, if you see a (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 149 Dislikes 23

There are ways to do it. Time and again, shared conservation has proved more profitable for the locals, than this lazy assholes attemps

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There are consequences to every choice we make. Some are forseable; others not so much. However what separates us from the beasts is (1)

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That in all things we have a choice, although it maybe hard, to do not what is best for ourselves but to do what is best for us all.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Crime and cruelty are not justified by poverty.

10 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 14

Not justified, no, but abject poverty can make people desperate and short-sighted. Do I hate what this man did? Absolutely. Will hating 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

him and taking "an eye for an eye" approach to the situation help the environmental degradation and poaching in developing countries? No.2/2

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

Until you've been in a situation where you make 10 cents a day working hard labour to keep your family fed...you dont know

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

People in poverty don't have the same views on justice as people on the Internet

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 4

Especially since people tend to get angrier about cruelty against animals than about cruelty to humans. The apathy is sickening.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

You don't know anyone until you bring them to the edge. That place of desperation where the line of right and wrong becomes blurred.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

chance to have the money to provide for your family, that would probably trump an endangered animal's comfort (2/2)

10 years ago | Likes 139 Dislikes 20

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

As a numbers man, fuck humans tho. 7 billion+ VS endangered species. 1 Dugong is worth more than starving villager or pretty much anyone IMO

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 8

Okay. Your guillotine is thataway -->

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

It's the same logic with a lot of poachers. Would you value an endangered animal over your impoverished community? How would you feel if 1)

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

A bunch of foreigners living in comfortable wealth prioritised the lives of animals over you and yours? It's a sad complicated situation 2)

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 2

Obviously I'm anti-poaching, but I can understand the logic that poachers have and how the problem is way more complex than it seems. 3/3

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 2

When the animals are gone the tourists will go too. Then everyone in the community suffers. Sure they are desperate, it's still a dick mov

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

I agree, but It's hard for me as a middle class american to fairly judge the actions of someone in poverty in the third world

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 5

True, but consider that this guy probably can't afford to even think about the long term. Poverty tends to make people struggle to 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

survive day by day. Obviously I don't support what this guy did, but blind vengeance won't fix the problems that led to this situation. 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I see your point, but me thinks if you have the ingenuity or skill to capture creatures like these in the first place, you could feasibly

10 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 13

It's not hard to make a cage..... You just don't get off the internet enough to do it

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

How do you know what I do in my private time? Cages might be a yuge factor.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

put those talents to NOT shitty uses and aid yourself in the process.

10 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 13

I agree, but It's hard for me as a middle class american to fairly judge the actions of someone in poverty in the third world

10 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 6

So making a definitive statement, you are ok with the rope/cages/etc. as long as its for his profit? Not judging, just objectively.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 7

It doesn't, but it DOES mean we shouldn't hate this man. It's gotta stop - but don't hate the guy doing it. He just wants to get by.

10 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 3

Soooo hate the economy?

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That's fair.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hate the world we are all to blame. Make changes that matter.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0