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iclearlyhavetissues
I love how everyone is arguing with what the author himself said.
DrSharkbite
Eranju
I always thought Bill was the real hero.
Jepalaudsadsin
He was the best pony
fastjeff
Oh, if you had Rosie waitin' back at home, you would too.
MrFlibbleIsVeryCross
cvnk
Boil em mash em stick em in a stew
poontangpython
Bill the pony was the true warrior... Left with the beast in the lake, casually wonders home... He eats nails n spits rust
Amesang
partyanimal69420
Stupid fat hobbit
dudekazoo
Can I vote these LOTR discussions as the greatest comments section to grace imgur in an age?
IsaidWe
allow me to unfurl the tale of tom bombadil
patientpersistence
Hopyrupa
The books are much deeper. The movies are Peter Jackson’s version. The Books are the real Tolkien Experience. Very different.
WakeMeUpB4UpostPost
GoodChange
Don’t forget about Faramir. Don’t be like Jackson.
imaBme
I like the theory that the ring didn't want faramir because he wouldn't use the ring, and chose not to tempt him.
DukeDarkwood
"Not if I found it on the highway would I take it I said. Even if I were such a man as to desire this thing, and even though I knew not
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clearly what this thing was when I spoke, still I should take those words as a vow, and be held by them." - he held to his honor, there. As
DukeDarkwood
he says very soon after, "I am wise enough to know that there are some perils from which a man must flee." He knows not to ask for it, for
DukeDarkwood
he does not wish to test his honor - strong though it be, still the honor of a mortal man - against the Ring, possessed of Sauron's malice.
PutThePRNDLinD
He's 'Everyman'...not a hero, but someone with the strength of character to see it through. -- "You're a better man than I am Gunga Din."
AnotherUsernameIsTaken
MutteringMisanthrope
Chainhealer
RedTailedHawk
Chainhealer
It's not like Tolkien gave an interview recently or anything. This has been common knowledge for decades. Tolkien's kid is 94, let that sink
cvnk
That is weird to think about
Chainhealer
in.
NyQuilDaydream
As long as Bilbo had the ring it's amazing how much strength it took to give it up! Sam is awesome, but Bilbo is still my favorite!
FitzChevalric
Amesang
KrillinLikeAVillan
jmpaten
ADisturbinglyAttractiveCactus
While I don't argue that Sam is the greatest hero of the story, the whole thing would have failed without any one of the important people.
LegendaryKatman
With a fucking Hobbit on his back
HeartOfCards
Simply runs out of pixels
KrillinLikeAVillan
Imgur is weird with images not loading properly sometimes, click on it and it should look fine.
HeartOfCards
Yeah i wasnt hating on it, it just fit in my mind
numonster
Sam was tempted to turn Mordor into a garden, he's the purest bean~
QuiteHugeMegaPlusUltra
The Mister Bean
Anarric
"Why should I give it to you I could have the biggest garden ever..wait..naw I should tend to my own garden first" - Sam definitely
NightFuryLee
Aw my heart
MrDaddyWarlord
Volcanic ash is actually really good for soil, so that might not be a bad idea.
finnsto
It would have been the most beautiful garden on the planet.
kolao3fyllo
Simply...yes
Yose
Could this picture have any fewer pixels?
KrillinLikeAVillan
Yes.
Yose
Looking back at this, I think the picture just wasn't fully loading on my phone, my bad.
catlovesfood
How have a gone so long without ever seeing this beautiful fucking picture.
Doumdidoum
Simply ? Simply is pissing on a Pub wall. It's not shanking a elephant size spider or storming an orc tower like a fucking commando.
TeddyBearHeaven
Fuck yeah Sam
KrillinLikeAVillan
ohDannyBoi
Boy....that was something else
PapaRHG
That may be the longest gif I've ever seen. Well done!
Grim1337
hmmmmsomethingclever
BastardMan1977
Share the load though
MyDadsIphone
Sam could get it.
DizziestLeaf0
Se7enPr1me
This scene was really intense and emotional for me and now ya'll ruined it
Mooninites
PO-tatoes?
Yaysh
Yaysh
Mooninites
Lmao
Malthraz
So wrong.
Zaruzen
Jesus
RedTailedHawk
Someone needs to make a hobbit themed porn movie and call it "They come in pints".
WeylandYutaniCorp
Takes that whole Prancing Pony thing to a whole new level...
Dillonnnyousonofabitch
ILoveToLaughHaHaHaHa
It's weird, but this audio/visual clip comes to my mind often...and idk why.
prepareforassholecomment
MasterDefenestrator
Dear Comments: Tom Bombadil is not a mortal, and the ring does absolutely nothing to him. Tom's "surrender" is nothing impressive. Sam's is.
vikingvampireangel
False. Faramir wanted nothing to do with the ring. And it holds no sway over bombadil
DukeDarkwood
But it wouldn't be safe with Tom. He would not see the importance in keeping watch over it. If it got lost in any way, he wouldn't care.
TheRicM
It also had no effect on bombaclaat
ParadoxicalSheep
Eyyyy
Doumdidoum
Faramir never even saw the ring. He didn't even know what it was. He guessed Frodo's mission was a terrible, corrupting burden ,.
vikingvampireangel
OtterAvalanche
MrArthurRadley
Way to add sauce!
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Bravo good sir. Smite the unbelievers.
TankDrop
Depends on definition of giving it up. If it's a loose one then Galadriel, Boromir, Gabdalf, Bilbo and Aragorn resist keeping the ring.
TankDrop
Also Faramir.
TankDrop
*Gandalf, fuck
DiracsDelta
Bilbo gave up the ring to Frodo, though not easily. But Frodo didn’t want the ring, and tried to give it to Gandalf. So, only character?...
Doumdidoum
Then again Gandalf is a demigod.
Tanksti
Frodo also offers it to Galandria
Kittynomnoms
And is ready to give it up to the council of Elrond.
pr0nty
Galadriel?
Tanksti
Yes her
SmolTenk
he begs frodo to take it back after a few hours because he fears he will be overwhelmed, frodo carries it for years and gives it up.
NowThatsWhatICallGif
False
Zacharoni95
Frodo succumbs to the ring in the end, he doesn’t give it up willingly
SmolTenk
Yes he does: In Rivendell. And Tolkien himself said that there was nobody in middle earth who would have been able to withstand the ring >
SmolTenk
in mount doom. Thats why Gollum was important.
BrianStuart
In the book, he's tempted by the Ring, but he's too humble to fall for it.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
No, not everything, Mr. Frodo. And it hasn't failed, not yet. I took it, Mr. Frodo, begging your pardon. And I've kept it safe. It's /1
BrianStuart
The temptation occurred before that. He had visions of Samwise the Strong; Hero of the Age.....
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yes, I agree, just wanted to show his reluctance at giving it back.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
round my neck now, and a terrible burden it is, too.' Sam fumbled for the Ring and its chain. 'But I suppose you must take it back.' Now /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
it had come to it, Sam felt reluctant to give up the Ring and burden his master with it again. /3
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
You can see from the above that he was already reluctant to give it up. For a good reason, yes, but that's exactly how the ring works. It /4
EternalAzhrei
Where does Tolkien say this. Not gonna call BS until I see some sauce or lacktherof. Cus honestly, Frodo is much better in book than movie.
EternalAzhrei
And this seems like the type of thing someone who only saw the movie might make up to support their argument for, "Almighty Samwise."
imaBme
In the long summary-letter sent to Milton Waldman, an extract of which was published in the Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien as #131
imaBme
and was reproduced in its entirety in The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion. It read "I think the simple 'rustic' love of Sam and his
imaBme
Rosie (nowhere elaborated) is absolutely essential to the study of his (the chief hero's) character, and to the theme of the relation of or
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ordinary life (breathing, eating, working, begetting) and quests, sacrifice, causes, and the 'longing for Elves', and sheer beauty." - J. R.
BeneNotSoCreativ
Of course he is. Why do we need tolkin to clearify it. Just read the dam books or watch the movies. He is the BEST
badmusicpuns
SmolTenk
With all due respect, the quest for the ring succeeds because everyone does their part. Sam may be the chief hero, but without Frodo the >
adamrac
With all due respect....(Tolkien has no idea what he is talking about, do you even know how many times I have read these books) Just Kidding
wunshrubbery
Plus there's no reasoning that Sam wouldn't be corrupted by the ring eventually. Frodo was chill until the ring wraiths started chasing him
ParanoydAndroid
Tolkien actually makes the same point.
PickleWatcher
Also, the ring corrupts hobbits over time. Sam wouldn't have been able to give it up either if he carried it as long as Frodo did.
tnert1221
I feel you dog. No one character could of done it alone.
Xaldyn
That's such a cop out thing for writers to say. "The sidekick was the REAL hero, the main character wouldn't have succeeded without them."
ParanoydAndroid
It's not a cop out. You've just read literally one line of a longer letter where he's discussing his characters but somehow have convinced
Xaldyn
I'm not talking about Tolkein specifically, just authors in general. That whole "This character was the REAL hero" is pretty cliche.
ParanoydAndroid
yourself that you're actually well-informed about Tolkien's thoughts.
Xaldyn
Like, no shit. The main character wouldn't have succeeded without ANY of the other characters, because that's how a story works.
bobl88
It succeeds because of Frodo's mercy toward Smeagol. Without him they would have all failed.
Kittynomnoms
It succeeds because Aragorn takes his place as Gondor's king and draws Sauron's attention. They all did their part.
tmgome905
Out of curiosity. What do you think Boromir's, Legolas', and Gimli's part were?
ParadoxicalSheep
Boromir's part was to be the weakest link, most susceptible to be corrupted. The fellowship was meant to break, the ring corrupts all.
Kittynomnoms
Arguably Boromir's "part" was to nudge Frodo into traveling alone. Had the Fellowship stayed whole, the mission would have failed. 1/3
Kittynomnoms
Also Legolas and Gimli had less obvious/defined parts, but arguably they just generally helped the rest of the Fellowship stay alive. 2/3
SmolTenk
quest would have failed just as much, as Frodo is the only reason Sam even leaves the shire. Sam is loyal, but he doesnt have the
SmolTenk
sense of duty Frodo has, as demonstrated by his repeated pleas to turn back and forget the whole mission. Arguably even in the end its not
SmolTenk
duty to save the world but loyalty to Frodo that makes him carry Frodo into mount doom.
jjsjosCreator
too be fair he did nearly kill shelob, an arch demon in spider form. a creature that normally couldn't be killed by the strength of any hero
jjsjosCreator
she drove sting into herself trying to crush him , but all 3 feet of him still went toe to toe with a badass enemy.
GoodDayToYouAll
The need for pinpointing one "best" to idolise, misses the whole point of the story. Everyone is weak if not helped by others.
Ryebread91
Yup. And how would Sam have faired carrying the ring the whole time? Even Gandalf would’ve been tempted. He’s definitely a hero 1/2
Ryebread91
For his part and it wouldn’t have succeeded without him but it also wouldn’t have with out Aragorn or Mary and pippin.
50centromere
But doesn't that make Sam a hero? He didn't want to be on that quest and could have stayed at home but he pulled through regardless.
sulgsahg
in the lego game sam did EVERYTHING while fighting with a cooking pan.
SmolTenk
sure, I am not denying that he is a hero (nor that he is the chief hero), but the post kinda implies that Sam could have done the job
SmolTenk
without Frodo, which is what I object to.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Tom bombadil thinks it's a worthless trinket and hands it right back without feeling it's sway at all.
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BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Are you an asshole for not worrying about the day to day affairs of ant colonies?
ExileonDaytonStreet
Cutting Tom Bombadil from the films was the right choice.
krisslanza
Hardly counts, given Tom is probably the single most powerful thing at that time. He just doesn't care about the Ring.
Alozar
Tom Bombadil is a load of shit and in my mind is Tolkien's version of The One Above All.
Jepalaudsadsin
This is exactly why he didn't count though
Affray
1)Tolkien wrote himself into a corner by having Tom Bombadil in the book. He's cool as all hell, but there's no good reason for most of the
Affray
2)struggle and death throughout the series if they've got a super-God who could just walk that shit home if he felt like it. And him not
Affray
3)feeling like it is pretty much the only reason the adventure doen't just end with him.
WillowFox
Ive been reading LOTR again. Been pondering Bombadill, I think he is the counterpart for Ungoliant. She was before all, and defied Morgoth
malachitedragon
Tom Bombadil is Eru Ilúvatar having a walk through his garden trolling the fuck out of everyone he meets. Of course it does nothing to him.
HerdPapley
Tom didn't care about the Ring, but that's the whole reason he couldn't be called upon to destroy it. Couldn't find 2 fucks to rub together.
Jepalaudsadsin
Iarwain Ben-adar
Diofant
First and Fatherless
nanyatenyaa
Supposedly because is only desire is knowledge and not weilding it in any fashion. He exists outside the struggle and expresses...
nanyatenyaa
...there is more to the world than this single struggle but also that Tom wants something which the ring doesnt have.
greenmote
He didn't help destroy it though. So he's no hero.
aoenofhorus
This should be interesting to those of you discussing this: https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Theories_about_Tom_Bombadil
Natoroja
Since he didnt feel the sway of it then it wasnt a sacrifice or a strong willed action to give it back at all.
dudekazoo
He did feel the sway of it. It showed him visions of what he could accomplish if he used it. He was tested and NOT found lacking.
PhilMcrevice
Was Tom an avatar of Eru Illuvatar?
TheUsernameThatApparentlyNobodyHasTakenYet
CassiusPolybius
Bombadil would be a setting OCP if he ever decided to make a ruckus, and thus is an outlier who should not be counted.
TheUsernameThatApparentlyNobodyHasTakenYet
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
Ya but Tom bombadil is a poorly written “oh I’m a terribly mysterious character just for the sake of being mysterious” so he doesn’t count
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
I like LotR but making a character mysterious by simply not fleshing them out is just lazy writing
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
There are references to him throughout the history of Arda.
nataliakitten
Tom Bombadil is Tolkien's self insert in the book.
Slayerformayor
Ahem. Faramir.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Also him.
dm0g
One Tom Bombadil comment and hell breaks loose. Also, time to re read I guess
TeddyBearHeaven
It’s always time to re-read
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Realistically Tom Bombadil is what carried this post to the top.
Anthroposapien
Tom Bombadil could have skipped into Mordor, teabagged Sauron, and destroyed the ring with zero effort if he wasn’t getting high all day.
Nostradamuswaswrong
I mean, you're not wrong, but he was, you know, busy, with...stuff.
ayeseaturtles
Yeah, like "dancing" with Goldberry.
RonSwansonCat
Genuinely lol'ed at this. +1
WittyNameThatIsTaken
Who?
Hashbrown123
The Jeff Bridges of Midfle-Earth.
ItsNotASchoonerItsASailboat
Books
Efreeti
HugNiceman
Using LOTR as every creation myth, Tom Bombadil is Primordial Chaos. All powerful but can’t really do much
ParadoxicalSheep
Why would you say something so controversial, yet so true?
DubiousByDefault
Tom Bombadil is just summer santa claus
ParadoxicalSheep
Dwarves are just babushka dolls you can only open once
nitrodog96
Let's be honest though, Tom Bombadil did not give a shit about a single thing
jjsjosCreator
i always loved him for that . he uses singing and skipping along as protection and no one can do anything about it .
JoePaul10
Tom bombadil is something akin to a Demi god who doesn’t care about power or the means to acquire it making the ring a useless trinket.
SchrodingersDictator
It’s possible that Tom bombadil is God himself. No one really knows.
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
I thought Tom Bombadil was a redneck midget.
Bysne
He was the representation of the writter. Some authors do that in his novels.
fiddlewheelx
He is also pretty much Chaotic neutral in the grand scheme of things. Neutral good when you interact with him, Chaotic neutral politically.
troyandabedpostoniiiiimgur
There's a good theory on him being basically evil as fuck I read somewhere. Can't find it now unfortunately.
DreadPierateRoberts
I thought he was a jesus equivalent.....
Se7enPr1me
Tom wasnt an original LOTR character, he existed in his own original story and it seems like tolkien summoned him into middle earth
admiralawesome4213
Sauce?
Se7enPr1me
"The adventures of Tom Bombadil" is what it was called.
NagromNortara
Bombadil is Maiar (demi-god), just like Sauron, Gandalf and Saruman. Last two belongs to subgroup of Maiar called Istari (wizards).
NagromNortara
Maiar don't have their full might in Middle Earth as they would have in Valinor A.K.A Land of Valar (gods) where they actually live.
NagromNortara
Except two of them who build a focus points at the middle earth, that allows them to unlock their full might.
NagromNortara
For Sauron the focus point is the One ring. For Bombadil it's his forest. Bombadil is unchallenged in his forest, but not so much outside.
bpsr2000
Is that you Colbert ?
Iankill
Gandalf is a demi good bombadil is beyond that. He's more like the spirit of nature or something. He's stronger than sauron
ParadoxicalSheep
Like a primordial force or something like that
mormacil
Gandalf is an angel, Bombadil is probably a demiurge at the least.
TheOriginalMikeMan
Mythrandian, but y'know
kinggaron
Whoa whoa whoa...hold up on the “stronger than Sauron” bit. Care to elaborate?
ENCHANTMEN
His power level was 4 million
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
He was considered all powerful within his self imposed boundaries.
Asciiman
There are all theories, Tolkien was cagey at best about Bombadil. Regardless, his character doesn't really do much.
Meddafizziks
There are theories that Bombadil is a physical embodiment of Arda, their world.
wunshrubbery
Ever heard of Morgoth?
Nikolai5
There are characters that are absolutely more powerful. They just have no interest whatsoever in what's going on because it's insignificant.
Nikolai5
To them at least.
deviantchuckles
Also known as shaggy
blackforrestbrownbear
Who downvotes the all powerful Shaggy?!
derburger
Gandalf is as powerful as Sauron. The could 1v1 Sauron fairly easily but his purpose is to lead the mortal races to fight against evil.
Notracistgrandpa
Well he's equivalent in rank to what sauron was before following melkor.
NagromNortara
Gandalf wouldn't be a match to Sauron especially in Middle-Earth (due to Saurons ties to ME), but nor in Valinor either.
NagromNortara
True that Istari has code on how much they are allowed to interfere, set by Valar who sent them, who can't interfere themselves.
Iankill
Sauron Gandalf and galadriel are all similar in strength and could use the ring if they desired. Bombadil is anove them according to Gandalf
patientpersistence
No - Gandalf is an inferior being to Sauron, and Galadriel even more inferior. Shit even the Balrog was stronger than Gandalf.
Silmariella
Gandalf is a Maiar, Sauron is a fallen Maiar, they are on the same level, if you will. Galadriel is a Noldor (Elf), below them in power.
NagromNortara
Galadriel or Gandalf are no match for Sauron (for different reasons), but they + Elrond have the 3 Elven rings uncorrupt by Sauron.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Galadriel herself states that she couldn't handle the ring and it would turn her into a terrible dark queen.
ParadigmShiftingWithoutAClutch
Sauron is only a Maiar, he’s the same power level as Gandalf and Saruman... He just has armies and trinkets.
ParadigmShiftingWithoutAClutch
Tom Bombadil is never truly explained, but he’s an all powerful being with no real backstory or explanation.
azazyel
I don't think he could have traveled to Mordor, I think he had to stay in his forest.
ScottishRoss
From my understanding, which is probably wrong, I thought he was the spirit of the forest and was all-powerful when in it, but can't leave.
azazyel
I honestly might have heard that from Colbert
Chronepsis
Why not destroy the ring while it was in his forest?
DukePhelan
He did cause it to 'vanish' in the book I am not sure if it was 'destroyed' when he did however. I wish his character had more story to it.
ParadoxicalSheep
Can't do it. The Ring can only be unmade by the fires in which it was forged
laquish
Or an old dragon
CoolSweaterDude
Correct. His power is immense but only within his forest. His range only expands when the forest territory does.
ParadoxicalSheep
Which is why it's a big deal that it is shrinking right? Didn't they say how, at one time, all of ME was basically one big forest?
uhuhuuhuuuuAahAaaaaahAAAAAAAh
So back in the days he was like the apex god? Until people chopped down the forest and limited his power (just assuming)
keillrandor
Time to start planting some trees...?
CISMaleScumLord
In the book, he set his own borders and could leave them if he chose. Which he probably wouldn't for reasons that no one else knew.
CISMaleScumLord
Or that's how I understood it.
yehsk8rz
Bombadil is basically the Saitama of LotR
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Fair enough comparison, but it's more that Saitama is the Bombadil of OPM.
Dritider
I came here to say that, people need to read the books, not just see the movies!
imshibagel
No thanks
feanoreldar
Have you read the Sillmarilon?
Hardie86
Although the movies dont make a big deal about this. It's in there!
SirDawby
They’re so long though! His eye for detail is nice but if I have to read 5 pages on a door I’ll lose my mind.
WoeToHice
Damn, you need to split that comment in two, so I can upvote the part about reading and downvote the part about Bombadil ;)
TomAceTwooo
I’m 130 pages into Return of the King. I’ve seen all the movies many times. This is the first time reading the books. WAY better - as usual.
IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
Oof, ROTK is rough tbh. Christopher didn’t have the writing ability his father did.
TomAceTwooo
Lo!
DestroyerX13
How much free time do you think people have?
FourtytwosQuestion
i tried, but i could not make it our of the first 100pages of the first book, i am weak :)
WoeToHice
Weird, I always find it easier to read the Fellowship than the Return.
thatpatguy
They get better once you get past Rivendell.
thepatioheater
Dude, I got to the last chapter of fellowship and I just couldn't put myself through the rest of it. It is a good story written as a slog
aphallatosis
I felt the same way and then the story started rolling in and I got super lost in it, read all 3 books in like a week
Riorach
Try the audiobook, the narration is lyrical and soothing and enthralling to make the slightly windy wording much more palatable.
1AMTHEBATMAN
I am almost done with Return of the King. has taken months to finish the 3. they put me to sleep. 10/10 great put-to-sleep books
TheSecondToLastAirbender
Slightly winding?
Riorach
I meant long winded, but sometimes a brisk breeze ruffles the hobbits.
Predacane35
Same, I don't care for a full page description of leaves.
Dantethebald
Someone once told me that you don’t have to read every sentence, for some reason I had never thought of this myself. Skim through boring.
Hurro
Agree with this. Same with all the songs. I get they add depth and culture but I'd much prefer a less wordy read.
Dantethebald
Easy enough to skip them. Nobody ever said you can’t skim through parts you find boring.
SamanosukeOnimusha
IIRC he made the ring disappear for a moment.
RonSwansonCat
Yes.
DukePhelan
Indeed he did, but iirc it is never stated if the ring was 'destroyed' or simply vanished by him at that time.
SamanosukeOnimusha
I interpreted it as he reversed the effect of the ring. Made it turn itself invisible
patientpersistence
Tom Bombadil probably had the power to snuff Sauron (and Melkor!) out with a single breath, and chose not to. So Fuck him.
MrDrProfScientist
There is nothing that says that in the series. Tom isn’t a Maiar or valar
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
He might be a Valar. That's the closest thing to him at least.
dudekazoo
Except the Valar are enumerated and named. I don't believe there's anything to suggest one capered off to be a forest-hermit-god.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
The Valar are named and it's noted that he's been known by many names including eldest. The Valar are the eldest
patientpersistence
Tolkien explicitly stated that Tom had taken a "vow of poverty" from his powers, though he intentionally left his exact nature vague.
theshinobi23
IIRC, his power is limited to within that forest, but he is all-powerful there. So I guess he'd crush Sauron if Sauron visited his forest.
WannaHaveACatch
theshinobi23
scatter
If Sauron came to his forest it would probably be the only thing that could make him care about Sauron.
jagsduuuuval
(1)"Hey Sauron I'm having a few folks over to grill out here in the forest Friday. Be nice if you could make it" - Bombadil
jagsduuuuval
(2) "Niccceee tryyy Bombadilllll"- Sauron. "Damn it" -Bombadil
RonSwansonCat
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
He set boundaries for himself as otherwise he would have become a tyrant ruling the world.
JudgementalMan
That's a pretty bullshit excuse
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
There is deliberate mystery about his character. It's left open that he might be the personification of the world and is not involved in it.
seanfish
Tbh it’s more that he doesn’t give a shit than high and mighty principles...
RevolutionOnHerLips
He's a little bit Diogenes the Cynic...
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
He does go e a shit if it happens in his boundaries. He saves the hobbits from the barrow downs.
seanfish
Oh for sure but his not ruling the world isn’t about principle, he’s just not that fussed.