Mar 10, 2018 9:35 AM
MursePog
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If you have done it, I would love to hear what you think of it.
rykinshin
"Most men live lives of quiet desperation."
TrueNorthernLights
I always said if I won the lotto I'd go be a hermit in the forest. In a five star mansion, mind you, but a hermit nontheless.
TysonGoesOutside
Everytime i hike in the mountains i think... what if i just didn't leave.
IHaveABigTruckBecauseMyCockIsTiny
It's easy to get out and do it, but the day to day work is hard and not for the reasons you would likely think.
akemp2
My dad does a sort of happy medium. He has a big farm and gets lots of their food that way but also will buy things at a market 30 mins away
Syrmerlin
I understand the appeal you are seeing: hard work, simplicity, and a definite purpose, but the lack of any sort of safety net is concerning.
Maaatth
And not dying from the tiniest illness.
PMyourDrawings
Apparently, farmers aren't doing so well
beardedheathen
Wants to live off grid, ask for advice from people on the internet.
MalePatternBlackness
My thought exactly.
trousercat
Of they’re off the grid they’re probably not on Imgur...
d0o0o0d
Subsistence farming sucks ass, amigo. There are good reasons cities are a thing, and they're full of people who don't want to farm.
Iprefermypunsintended
I known someone who did it and regretted. Now they can’t sell their farm. They can’t afford go back to their city life...
strideo
Sure they could. They just don't want to make the necessary sacrifices to do so.
Mortemmiles
There is a middle ground my friend. I wanted the same thing a few years back, but found a place remote enough to fulfill that urge.
RonaldBWeasley
Alaska is that place.
toxcrusadr
Yeah, just buy some land in the country a 15 mins or 2 hrs from home and do some sustainable stuff on it. Not perfect but better than 1/
2/ sitting on your butt watching TV and dreaming about it.
Annkas
Mine is following a coastline, living in a tent on the beach. By the time I retire, that may be all I can afford.
I want to sail off to the south Pacific in a pretty self sufficient 40ft sailboat one day.
KotalDom
Ironically shared on social media
thejerg
This was the comment I was looking for
dazedNconfuzed
I grew up doing that halfway. Wood heat, grew half our food, made maple syrup, learned how to do everything from scratch. Yet high tech.
Today, I dabble in self-sufficiency. Wife not ready for serious off-grid living, but I do collect rain, starting garden, grind wheat, etc.
Just pick something and learn how to do it "off grid". Incorporate it as convenient. Repeat for everything.
SirPoopyButtholeTheFirst
This is excellent advice my man, you need more upvotes.
auserwithaname
Land's cheap in Vermont. If you want to be a dairy farmer, there are many who will teach you.
Thatnicguy
Read the long earth series by pratchett... it won’t help
scaiken298017
My opinion, start small. Reason, not as easy or cheap as it seems. Very drastic, especially if you have family.
Lot of physical work and discomfort. Crops can have a bad year, you're fucked. Watch "little house on the prairie". Serious.
Got kids? Don't Fuck with it, local government will be all up in your ass seeing how you raise them.
MurphyPandorasLawBox
Huh. I’ve read up on the subsistence farming lifestyle quite a bit but somehow my brain always saw the word as sustenance. I am dumb.
theethnographer
I just put in my two weeks at all 3 of my jobs to move to Peru and chace my dream job working with indigenous in the Amazon. You have (1/2)
WendyTheWendigo
....yes?!
HunnyBunnyBBQ
They made a movie about you. Surprise you starve to death at the end. Into the wild. If you can learn how how n have a partner.. Better.
sowasvonsowas
It's hard ass work. Remember, many of our ancestors perished from causes that modern society has eliminated or reduced in threat level!
BlindGardener
I don't fantasize about that. It would be awful. I prefer my wage drudgery, thank you.
JoeT85
Didn't really work out well for Ted Kaczynski. I don't think he has an IMGUR acct though.
booneytoons
It’s why I play stardew valley so much.
ermahgerdshoez
<3 I came to make the same comment!
JmARCANGEL
OP, you are not alone. I often wish this, then I'm hit with reality. My wife and kids are to addicted to technology to come with me.
TheFriendliestGiant
Bold words from a dude with 11K points and a year and a half of active use here.
TrowelAndError
Also, technology has been useful in keeping wives and kids alive. Mother Nature can be a right bitch.
Its only been since Oct of last year.
Whoops, yeah, you're right about that. Dunno why I thought it was 2019 already!
eggbrook
Also unless you live in middle of nowhere Montana or Alaska, it's illegal to be "off the grid"
I don't think you're using the same definition of 'off the grid' as most people. Usually means 'not reliant on electric utility for power'.
The IRS especially hates it when you go off the grid.
CopperLeagueGaming
To be fair, you'd likely starve yourself to death
AmandaCross9
This type of negativity makes me sick.
PlantainSuperNova
Read into the wild.
optimist and pessimist both benefit society, optimists gave us the airplane, while pessimists gave us the parachute.
also if you expect the worse it becomes easier to be pleasantly surprised when not the absolute worse happens
jrntn
As an avid hiker and outdoorsman, you absolutely have to understand that nature will fucking kill you if you don't take it seriously.
Blind optimism ignoring reality makes me sick.
BramStocker
you're 12
Gmayor61
First week on the Internet?
There's a reason we've made every attempt to advance beyond isolated subsistence farming. And it's not because that was just too much fun.
Dagordae
Reality isn’t negative. Reality is reality. If you want to go back a thousand years, you get to learn why we abandoned that life as fast as
Possible. And why they died so very often.
PoisonInJest
You can always go to an Amish community and ask if you can stay a season.
WhattaYaLookingFor
If you don’t mind the religious factor that is. As an atheist, those people drive me crazy with their invisible friend.
I too am an athiest. However you're personal religious relationship with what ever diety, or lack there of, should not effect your view
Effect my view of what? Their talk about Harvey is just driving me crazy, that’s all. Doesn’t mean they are not nice people.
Oh as you deleted your comment. Harvey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_(film)
MouseShadow
This is a good idea! A friend of mine has friends among the Amish. She goes to visit them every so often and has great stories to tell.
They are great people! The only experience I have is working along side them and they are some of the most ethical people I've met
Nikolai5
Would they let you join them temporarily? Is it even possible? It might be a good idea for people at the end of their tether.
I’m not sure. She was somehow friends with them (through a connection with Mennonite friends). So she would stay for a few days/weeks.
Most times wont be welcome in the home as that is a primary center of the religion. Barn living or just come to work
I don't see why not. What religious group doesn't want a chance to convert an interested outsider?
Yes but until then most won't let you in their home.
aaikr
How about the next time you have some holidays go work as a ranch hand and see if it's fit for you. You won't lose any thing by trying.
GuyPrice
That will be wildly different from living "off the grid". Ranch is industrial operation meant to generate profit.
ctzn07
same principle, just in larger scale
Scale changes the principle.
SuperRockinMrMagic
Love working with my hands but hard labor into old age is a hard life. My family saw it first hand and pushed for me to be an office monkey
5f2d5f2d5f2d3d5b282d2e2d29
Did you ever become the monkey they always dream you'd become?
I sure did
BaronPocket
We'll get us a stake, and grow alfalfa for the rabbits
3timesaday1
can i tend the rabbits george?
Dasadoozie
This is an awesome network to do just that, been to a number of farms in the past 3 years, had a blast each time! https://wwoofusa.org
frostycry
Yeah, no. Taxes still there. We're talking invisible to government.
Halvaard
Ho-li-da-ys? What is this thing you speak of?
Nefarra
Worked on an all natural farm. Milked cows, butchered chickens. The whole deal. It's so much work. Makes you feel great and you eat well. 1/
Issue is money. Generators, constantly fixing things, animals die, winters are hard. 2/2
HashtagOwnage
Living off the grid sounds great until you get sick. Then modern technology becomes infinitely more desirable.
Can attest. Having raging diarrhea in the woods with no medicine or toilet or bed suuuucked.
trowavo
that's a good a idea. I think when people wanting to make a major lifestyle change. they should find ways to get a taste of that new >>
lifestyle first before going all in. because often times are fantasies about how something is, isnt always the reality.
Churtothechur
They might lose a few pounds. Well that's what happened to me anyway
squreky
What was her name?
StatiPandaBandit
MY PRECIOUS POUNDS!?!
objectreborn
All of them.
lordstinkynuts
Check out WWOOF, available in many countries, and will be a nice intro to see the work you'd do and meet people who live it
surlistyc
World Wide Official Orifice Fisting.
EngineerforPresident
.
Danthefork
As a farm worker and some one who has WWOOF'd it is not the same. They are not worked as hard and it's generally only the mind numbing work.
TreesAndShit
Wonderful program, family close to me hosted a traveler for a few months
RingOfTheLords
Good advice! Done that for a year with my GF, afraid to dislike it because I was not fond of rural things... I loved every moment!
thatsthewrongreactiongif
Which country/ies did you Wwoof? Looking to Wwoof in the states this summer
It was in Japan. Almost all around the country. Don't know for the states unfortunately.
rykinshin
"Most men live lives of quiet desperation."
TrueNorthernLights
I always said if I won the lotto I'd go be a hermit in the forest. In a five star mansion, mind you, but a hermit nontheless.
TysonGoesOutside
Everytime i hike in the mountains i think... what if i just didn't leave.
IHaveABigTruckBecauseMyCockIsTiny
It's easy to get out and do it, but the day to day work is hard and not for the reasons you would likely think.
akemp2
My dad does a sort of happy medium. He has a big farm and gets lots of their food that way but also will buy things at a market 30 mins away
Syrmerlin
I understand the appeal you are seeing: hard work, simplicity, and a definite purpose, but the lack of any sort of safety net is concerning.
Maaatth
And not dying from the tiniest illness.
PMyourDrawings
Apparently, farmers aren't doing so well
beardedheathen
Wants to live off grid, ask for advice from people on the internet.
MalePatternBlackness
My thought exactly.
trousercat
Of they’re off the grid they’re probably not on Imgur...
d0o0o0d
Subsistence farming sucks ass, amigo. There are good reasons cities are a thing, and they're full of people who don't want to farm.
Iprefermypunsintended
I known someone who did it and regretted. Now they can’t sell their farm. They can’t afford go back to their city life...
strideo
Sure they could. They just don't want to make the necessary sacrifices to do so.
Mortemmiles
There is a middle ground my friend. I wanted the same thing a few years back, but found a place remote enough to fulfill that urge.
RonaldBWeasley
Alaska is that place.
toxcrusadr
Yeah, just buy some land in the country a 15 mins or 2 hrs from home and do some sustainable stuff on it. Not perfect but better than 1/
toxcrusadr
2/ sitting on your butt watching TV and dreaming about it.
Annkas
Mine is following a coastline, living in a tent on the beach. By the time I retire, that may be all I can afford.
strideo
I want to sail off to the south Pacific in a pretty self sufficient 40ft sailboat one day.
KotalDom
Ironically shared on social media
thejerg
This was the comment I was looking for
dazedNconfuzed
I grew up doing that halfway. Wood heat, grew half our food, made maple syrup, learned how to do everything from scratch. Yet high tech.
dazedNconfuzed
Today, I dabble in self-sufficiency. Wife not ready for serious off-grid living, but I do collect rain, starting garden, grind wheat, etc.
dazedNconfuzed
Just pick something and learn how to do it "off grid". Incorporate it as convenient. Repeat for everything.
SirPoopyButtholeTheFirst
This is excellent advice my man, you need more upvotes.
auserwithaname
Land's cheap in Vermont. If you want to be a dairy farmer, there are many who will teach you.
Thatnicguy
Read the long earth series by pratchett... it won’t help
scaiken298017
My opinion, start small. Reason, not as easy or cheap as it seems. Very drastic, especially if you have family.
scaiken298017
Lot of physical work and discomfort. Crops can have a bad year, you're fucked. Watch "little house on the prairie". Serious.
scaiken298017
Got kids? Don't Fuck with it, local government will be all up in your ass seeing how you raise them.
MurphyPandorasLawBox
Huh. I’ve read up on the subsistence farming lifestyle quite a bit but somehow my brain always saw the word as sustenance. I am dumb.
theethnographer
I just put in my two weeks at all 3 of my jobs to move to Peru and chace my dream job working with indigenous in the Amazon. You have (1/2)
WendyTheWendigo
....yes?!
HunnyBunnyBBQ
They made a movie about you. Surprise you starve to death at the end. Into the wild. If you can learn how how n have a partner.. Better.
sowasvonsowas
It's hard ass work. Remember, many of our ancestors perished from causes that modern society has eliminated or reduced in threat level!
BlindGardener
I don't fantasize about that. It would be awful. I prefer my wage drudgery, thank you.
JoeT85
Didn't really work out well for Ted Kaczynski. I don't think he has an IMGUR acct though.
booneytoons
It’s why I play stardew valley so much.
ermahgerdshoez
<3 I came to make the same comment!
JmARCANGEL
OP, you are not alone. I often wish this, then I'm hit with reality. My wife and kids are to addicted to technology to come with me.
TheFriendliestGiant
Bold words from a dude with 11K points and a year and a half of active use here.
TrowelAndError
Also, technology has been useful in keeping wives and kids alive. Mother Nature can be a right bitch.
JmARCANGEL
Its only been since Oct of last year.
TheFriendliestGiant
Whoops, yeah, you're right about that. Dunno why I thought it was 2019 already!
eggbrook
Also unless you live in middle of nowhere Montana or Alaska, it's illegal to be "off the grid"
d0o0o0d
I don't think you're using the same definition of 'off the grid' as most people. Usually means 'not reliant on electric utility for power'.
strideo
The IRS especially hates it when you go off the grid.
CopperLeagueGaming
To be fair, you'd likely starve yourself to death
AmandaCross9
This type of negativity makes me sick.
PlantainSuperNova
Read into the wild.
CopperLeagueGaming
optimist and pessimist both benefit society, optimists gave us the airplane, while pessimists gave us the parachute.
CopperLeagueGaming
also if you expect the worse it becomes easier to be pleasantly surprised when not the absolute worse happens
jrntn
As an avid hiker and outdoorsman, you absolutely have to understand that nature will fucking kill you if you don't take it seriously.
TrueNorthernLights
Blind optimism ignoring reality makes me sick.
BramStocker
you're 12
Gmayor61
First week on the Internet?
TheFriendliestGiant
There's a reason we've made every attempt to advance beyond isolated subsistence farming. And it's not because that was just too much fun.
Dagordae
Reality isn’t negative. Reality is reality. If you want to go back a thousand years, you get to learn why we abandoned that life as fast as
Dagordae
Possible. And why they died so very often.
PoisonInJest
You can always go to an Amish community and ask if you can stay a season.
WhattaYaLookingFor
If you don’t mind the religious factor that is. As an atheist, those people drive me crazy with their invisible friend.
PoisonInJest
I too am an athiest. However you're personal religious relationship with what ever diety, or lack there of, should not effect your view
WhattaYaLookingFor
Effect my view of what? Their talk about Harvey is just driving me crazy, that’s all. Doesn’t mean they are not nice people.
WhattaYaLookingFor
Oh as you deleted your comment. Harvey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_(film)
MouseShadow
This is a good idea! A friend of mine has friends among the Amish. She goes to visit them every so often and has great stories to tell.
PoisonInJest
They are great people! The only experience I have is working along side them and they are some of the most ethical people I've met
Nikolai5
Would they let you join them temporarily? Is it even possible? It might be a good idea for people at the end of their tether.
MouseShadow
I’m not sure. She was somehow friends with them (through a connection with Mennonite friends). So she would stay for a few days/weeks.
PoisonInJest
Most times wont be welcome in the home as that is a primary center of the religion. Barn living or just come to work
jrntn
I don't see why not. What religious group doesn't want a chance to convert an interested outsider?
PoisonInJest
Yes but until then most won't let you in their home.
aaikr
How about the next time you have some holidays go work as a ranch hand and see if it's fit for you. You won't lose any thing by trying.
GuyPrice
That will be wildly different from living "off the grid". Ranch is industrial operation meant to generate profit.
ctzn07
same principle, just in larger scale
GuyPrice
Scale changes the principle.
SuperRockinMrMagic
Love working with my hands but hard labor into old age is a hard life. My family saw it first hand and pushed for me to be an office monkey
5f2d5f2d5f2d3d5b282d2e2d29
Did you ever become the monkey they always dream you'd become?
SuperRockinMrMagic
I sure did
BaronPocket
We'll get us a stake, and grow alfalfa for the rabbits
3timesaday1
can i tend the rabbits george?
Dasadoozie
This is an awesome network to do just that, been to a number of farms in the past 3 years, had a blast each time! https://wwoofusa.org
frostycry
Yeah, no. Taxes still there. We're talking invisible to government.
Halvaard
Ho-li-da-ys? What is this thing you speak of?
Nefarra
Worked on an all natural farm. Milked cows, butchered chickens. The whole deal. It's so much work. Makes you feel great and you eat well. 1/
Nefarra
Issue is money. Generators, constantly fixing things, animals die, winters are hard. 2/2
HashtagOwnage
Living off the grid sounds great until you get sick. Then modern technology becomes infinitely more desirable.
HunnyBunnyBBQ
Can attest. Having raging diarrhea in the woods with no medicine or toilet or bed suuuucked.
trowavo
that's a good a idea. I think when people wanting to make a major lifestyle change. they should find ways to get a taste of that new >>
trowavo
lifestyle first before going all in. because often times are fantasies about how something is, isnt always the reality.
Churtothechur
They might lose a few pounds. Well that's what happened to me anyway
squreky
What was her name?
StatiPandaBandit
MY PRECIOUS POUNDS!?!
objectreborn
All of them.
lordstinkynuts
Check out WWOOF, available in many countries, and will be a nice intro to see the work you'd do and meet people who live it
surlistyc
World Wide Official Orifice Fisting.
EngineerforPresident
.
Danthefork
As a farm worker and some one who has WWOOF'd it is not the same. They are not worked as hard and it's generally only the mind numbing work.
TreesAndShit
Wonderful program, family close to me hosted a traveler for a few months
RingOfTheLords
Good advice! Done that for a year with my GF, afraid to dislike it because I was not fond of rural things... I loved every moment!
thatsthewrongreactiongif
Which country/ies did you Wwoof? Looking to Wwoof in the states this summer
RingOfTheLords
It was in Japan. Almost all around the country. Don't know for the states unfortunately.