So i thought i would provide more information...

Jul 2, 2015 4:48 PM

raikouofthunder

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As i was scrolling through images as usual, i noticed this-

A gif of the ever-so-famous video of the guy walking a pack of GSDs down a busy street. I also noticed that it had a surprising number of upvotes and a hell of a lot of views. Some of the comments mentioned things being off with his dogs, or knowing his reputation, pointing out what a despicable human being he is. But i thought people may be interested in knowing more sources of information to make up their own minds about the way this man operates and to arm themselves with knowledge so that his video may never be shared again, he may never gain popularity and so he may never con another person into having the misfortune of dealing with his training or his dogs. This is going to be pretty wordy, so you might wanna get some popcorn. Or you can be a pussy and skip the to TL;DR.

You dont have to agree with me in the slightest, some of this is my opinion on the guy but most of it is information taken/reworded from other places and sites. If you have any other good sources or any input leave a comment.

This man is Augusto Deolivieira. 'Owner' of Griffin Shepherd Kennels.

He looks pretty impressive right? A bunch of seemingly well trained dogs that do what asked without hesitation at his heel as he casually strolls along in full control without a worry of any breaking away.

Demand for puppies and dogs bred and trained by this man was apparently great enough for him to decide to set up a kennel and provide people with what they wanted. There is supposedly a waiting list due to the demand, despite him frequently posting puppies people can "skip the waiting lists" and buy as soon as they present the cash.

For him to have had such success and be selling puppies and dogs anywhere between $1000-$3000 he must be great at what he does and provide the best of the breed, right?

Wrong.

AD (shorter than his full name) 'trains' his dogs using fear, pain and manipulation. His dogs do not do what they do because they are wanting to please and enjoy training, they are doing it because they are scared of what will happen if they do not, what pain or shock may follow. He uses controversial methods to do with dominance over his dogs and uses even more controversial tools such as electronic collars/leashes and prong collars plus he has even recorded himself withholding WATER from his dogs as part of training and when given back the dogs have drank so fast its surprising they did not get bloat. Its not known if he has any sort of dog training certification, as he both claims being certified means nothing yet claims he himself is certified or training to be so, one thing that is clear regarding any training is he is absolutely not a qualified service-dog trainer despite his claims of donating dogs to be used for service purposes or helping train them. There is never a straight answer with this man.

His 'breeding' is even worse. For a start, none of his dogs are vaccinated for even the basic (and law-requiring) things like canine parvovirus and rabies, and they are not hip or elbow scored or tested for any sort of diseases which can be passed onto the pups. While vaccines can be controversial, no puppy should miss out on the basics especially in a breeding establishment, his dogs are also at risk every time he takes them somewhere and he is placing others in risk every time he hosts 'training classes' at the kennels. He does not treat his dogs for parasites such as fleas or worms either which is very unwise when doubled with the fact he gives his dogs roadkill alongside their raw diet.

AD has also been known to fail to separate bitches from dogs and has had multiple "oops" litters from brother/sister or parent/offspring matings and also mates bitches on almost every heat cycle meaning they get no rest between litters to recover and thus ensuring there are always puppies "ready-to-go'. It is estimated that by the end of April 2015 Griffin Shepherd Kennels will have produced 161 puppies. It is just a glorified puppy farm and you never know what you are getting.

Currently the kennels are under quarantine imposed by the state because of an outbreak of parvovirus, which has sadly killed dogs, although it is unknown right now which ones due to confusion over names and who is who when it comes to his dogs as he will call multiple dogs by the same name.

He has no idea how dogs work, and sets them up to fail.

In this (rather poor quality, i apologise) screen cap AD is having to pull one bitch off of another. One of them had whelped only two weeks prior to this but has already been thrown back in with the 'pack' instead of being kept away in the quiet to raise her pups. They were believed to have been left unsupervised in a yard with other dogs, and AD only stepped in when the fight escalated to leaping on one another and pinning to the floor.

He has no control over the dogs, and lacked even the most basic understanding of behavior and breeding which could have prevented this incident. Where are the puppies too? Why is their mother not with them?

The video can be found here for those wanting to see most of the incident. There is no blood visible so even you squeamish people should be able to view, but it may upset just because of what it is.

https://www.facebook.com/TheTruthAboutGrffinShepherds/videos/594425590692073/

He allows his dogs to attack others because he believes thats how they work.

In this (once again potato quality) other screen cap, AD is watching and filming as one of his dogs repeatedly attacks another. The dog on the right is his main stud and the kennels namesake Griffin. The dog on the left is Griffins son, Jake, who is only 6 months old at the time of filming.

AD allowed Griffin to attack Jake, as Jake walked outside before Griffin. AD saw this as being disrespectful to an older 'alpha' dog so when Griffin turned on Jake who was trying to show submission through his body language and vocalisation (ie screaming like hell), he stood back and allowed it for some time.

This is not a thing which should be allowed. Any dog attacking another without provocation/defending itself is poorly socialised and needs to be worked on and should not be bred from on the off chance it is caused by medical issues or temperamental flaws from bad breeding. Yet AD encourages this sort of 'natural discipline' between his dogs and regularly breeds Griffin to several different bitches.

The video can be viewed here, there is no blood once again, but the screams of the younger dog may upset some.

https://www.facebook.com/TheTruthAboutGrffinShepherds/videos/582920958509203/

AD has also started 'protection dog' training*, you know, similar to the training police forces use- Bite a person, hold them, leave them etc. He is not qualified to do this, and videos he has put up of this training show just how inexperienced he is with it and how dangerous this could be as the dogs do not listen to his "leave it" commands until they are repeated a few times.

Very, very few of his dogs have ever been fit for sale.

The dog in this photo is a young, 1 year old (at the time), bitch named Katie.

She was up for sale for $1000 by AD who claimed she was perfectly healthy and fully trained as well as being good with other dogs and children. When a woman expressed interest and visited her, AD spun some cockamamie story about only recently getting her back off of her original owner who bought her from him as a pup and had been struggling with her after getting a rescue dog. Katie was apparently not eating normally either which he said contributed to weight loss.

The woman decided to take her, and AD promised to mail her the AKC forms and get vet records from the old owner for her. That never happened. The woman also went onto the kennels page later on and noticed Katie had been advertised for breeding with Jake, which did not match what she had been told about her past at all.

The woman found Katie wasnt too far off promised, but did have some behavioral issues. Mainly aggression towards other dogs and possessiveness around them.

Owners post can be found here and some update pics can be seen.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154548462265193&set=o.479950502139583&type=1&permPage=1

A later post regarding Katies progress:

https://www.facebook.com/TheTruthAboutGrffinShepherds/posts/551543584980274:0

Some people have shared their stories about their experiences with AD and his kennels.

The Mcleods' shared their particular experience when they bought their pup Jax.

The full post and more photos can be seen here:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/644629329005032/

It shows documents which AD uses to con buyers into thinking they are getting they are getting a healthy and well bred pup. But are either forged or photocopied and altered in some way.

Other people have had note-worthy issues with Griffin Shepherd Kennels too.

Kaycee shared her experience when purchasing their pup Chelsea. They also show some documents which dont quite add up, and describe the puppy as "by far, the worst GSD i have ever owned" showing how little care AD puts into his breeding.

Her experience can be found here:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-truth-about-griffin-shepherd-kennels/kaycees-experience-with-gsk/566758340125465

Last but not least..

Ally Peckman was actually an avid supporter of Griffin Shepherd Kennels, that is, until she bought a pup and sadly found out first hand just what sort of "breeding" AD was behind.

Her experience can be seen here:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-truth-about-griffin-shepherd-kennels/allys-experience-with-griffin-shepherd-kennels/598312146970084

Its by far the most chock-a-block with evidence against AD, with pictures of more forged documents and communications between herself and AD where he seems to have very little clue about the puppy he has spent the last few weeks raising and has just sold.

Sauces

https://www.facebook.com/TheTruthAboutGrffinShepherds?fref=photo

http://www.puppyleaks.com/someone-shares-guy-walking-shepherds/

http://gskwatchdog.tumblr.com/ *There is a video here showing his 'training' for protection.

Some reviews of his kennels:

http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/griffin-shepherd-kennels-barnstable

EDIT: Petition against AD and his kennels can be found here!

https://www.change.org/p/martha-coakley-shut-down-operations-of-griffin-shepherd-kennel-as-an-unlicensed-breeder-trainer

His kennel facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/GriffinShepherdKennels?fref=ts

Some of 'his' facebook pages:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Augusto-Deoliveira/1396551383916804?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/griffin.shepherdskennel?fref=ts

Feel free to go spam and report the hell out of everything.

Dog tax.

Woof.

TL;DR- Griffin Shepherd Kennels are unethical, boo to them.

Thank you for putting the effort into this post. Fuck puppy mills and fuck this guy.

10 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

+1 for actually posting multiple sources

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

In the night, may these dogs feast on his testicles...

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Fuck this guy. I signed the petition to shut him down. He should't be allowed to own any dogs ever.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Thank you! Finally an informed post on imgur about this guy.

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

The world needs to know about this fucking scumbag. I hate people.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Holy shit! When I saw it my first thought was he beats them into submission. You could tell by how they carried themselves.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Maybe those assholes should stop buying puppies from that turd. There is a special place in hell waiting for puppy mill operators.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Thing is the people who support him have no idea how you SHOULD train and raise dogs so think he is some all powerful master and promote.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Gives a bad name to all responsible breeders. I hope he has a heart attack in his kennel and his dogs eat his face off.

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

Honestly most people are betting they are all just going to turn on him one day.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Yet another reason to rescue.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

As a therapy dog trainer (certified), you're a good OP.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Thank-You, its an act of fraud that he claims hes associated with service training companies. You're a good...Person thingy for what ya do!

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Guys, we've got to take this fucker down.

10 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 2

Skinny bitch named Katie

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

I have a GSD, I would kick the shit out of anyone who thinks ANY dog works that way.I can't imagine my little Tilly every going through 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

ANY bit of that. Fuck that guy!! I'm gonna go hug my puppy now... 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

sooo basically this guy? http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140614115347/howtotrainyourdragon/images/6/64/Drago_Profile.jpg

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I actually laughed at that :) Good one.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

my nieces are watching it right now

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I just signed the petition. Lets get this fucker arrested.

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Can you link it please? I can't seem to find it

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

At the bottom of the post, in the edit.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Is there something you can use when TL;DR no longer applies? That's what this is...

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

WTL:DR(Way too long; didn't read): Man poses as good dog trainer, OP is Sherlock Holmes and reveals he's actually an abusive piece of shit.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Thanks I will use this wisely !

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Brb, gotta go give my dog hugs and treats.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You're right; I'm absolutely too pussy to watch a puppy scream while it's terrorised by a larger dog. Hope State att. gets this asshole :(

10 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

I had a large breed poodle try to attack my Aussie. Owner said the dog was friendly and was playing. Ha. Right.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

On the legal side of things he keeps shirking any punishment- He hides dogs off site when he knows he has inspections coming up (1/?)

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

So that he never violates his kennel license for having more than he should, and he just lies and cheats in general to everyone (2/?)

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Meaning informing people of him is right now the most effective thing that can be done, to warn others and prevent any more sad endings. Fin

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Ugh. And yeah, let me add: I very, very much appreciate you putting the work into this. Like you said, the more ppl know..

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Im just hoping this doesnt spiral off into oblivion, i dont care how successful it is as long as it beats thats damn video.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Posted the link to this on their Facebook page! I love my dog!

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Sadly its probably just gonna get deleted (the link you posted that is) AD removes anything that looks bad on him or his dogs.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Well if one person sees it I consider it a win!

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Good attitude you have there.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

35 minutes still there!;) winning!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Hmm controlling his dogs through pain fear and manipulation? Sure this guy doesn't moonlight for Comcast?

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

*doesnt get it* hahaha...yeah....good one...*runs away in shame*

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'd laugh but they might be listening.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You never allow dogs to fight or breed indiscriminately. Withholding water/food is a crime. However, PROPER use of ecollars is not abusive.

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 6

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10 years ago (deleted Nov 29, 2015 8:31 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I've seen incredible trainers work miracles with ecollar training particularly in dogs with high prey drive or leash aggression. Distraction

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

It's like tripping your toddler if you can't grab them if they run for the street. Not a good thing to trip them, but by FAR the better *c*

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*c* solution once 'don't run for the street' is already out the window (which can and does happen to even the best 'trained', kid or dog).

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The issue is always "proper" use. People watch this guy or Caesar Millan and end up traumatising their dog. At least the worst that can 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

happen with positive training is that your dog gets fat or you reinforce the wrong behaviour. At least your dog is still happy.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which is why i used the word controversial as this isnt the place to ramble about personal views on such a trivial thing when compared (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I agree I just hate what can be an excellent tool to get a bad name when it can help a lot of dogs. Just tossing my opinion out :)

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

To his 'treatment' of the dogs he keeps. (2/2)

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

But e-collars themselves aren't controversial, they are used and encouraged by certified trainers, whether it be obedience, therapy, 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

2/2 service or hunting. Professional certified trainers will teach owners how to use them properly and not in a negative manner

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Might be a difference in culture, but here in UK they still arent very popular because we have a high twat rate.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

How has he managed to get away with this for so long?! People who treat animals so awfully should have the same done to them! Fucking cunt.

10 years ago | Likes 68 Dislikes 0

Because people think a dog should be a robot who obeys every command, not a well-balanced, happy, socialised friend who fucks up occasionaly

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I love that description and not just for dogs.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thanks, I get a lot of time to think about this kind of stuff when working as a dog walker!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You should be an investigative reporter ☺

10 years ago | Likes 760 Dislikes 9

interesting that he had gotten his dogs vaccinated for rabies when they were supposed to already have that vaccine according to him.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

His sources are facebook, tumblr, yelp, and an article from a site called "puppyleaks" ... not exactly Pulitzer prize reporting here

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 12

The video footage is convincing though, you must admit

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

His, Ok, im cool with that, i can grow a penis :) I get your point but at least i sourced so it didnt look like i was talking out my ass.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Don't get me wrong, I liked your post, and I appreciate the sources I just would compare it to "investigative journalism"

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Oh god yeah haha, wouldnt call google and facebook searching investigating, but it was a good joking comment ;)

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

As fun as getting people into deep, deep shit would be, ive already gone down the working with animals route, there is no return ;)

10 years ago | Likes 181 Dislikes 0

1-This says his kennel has been under state quarantine since late May: www.myfoxboston.com/story/29278177/controversial-dog-breeder-now-

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

become a pet detective, i saw something like that on a movie once.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I would but i cant really travel to Africa to rescue a bat god, and in terrible at talking out me bum :(

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

2- under-state-quarantine

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Combine the two. Be the next Upton Sinclair.

10 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

Shamefully i will have to admit i have no idea who that is...Off to Google i go!

10 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

He meant to write about immigrant treatment, but wound up writing a book that lead to a reform of the meatpacking industry.

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Well that certainly is a 180 in the plot hahaha.

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I consider this news, so really he/she is an investigative reporter. Better reporting than CNN. ZzZzzZz

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

TIL you can post emojis

10 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

Okay someone else noticed

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Holy fuck i literally just clocked on to that!

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Damn, and I feel terrible for patting my dog on the nose when he does something wrong. Fuck this guy.

10 years ago | Likes 86 Dislikes 3

Yeah when y dog eats garbage and I yell at her she looks sad and runs away lol. She also ignores my commands 50% of the time but at least 1/

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Isn't animal cruelty a felony so why hasn't he been arrested

10 years ago | Likes 496 Dislikes 1

? - Excuse me ma'am I think you dropped this

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

You would be amazed what people can get away with if they call it "training."

10 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 1

Applies to children too.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

That's what I'm saying!

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

This is not a fairytale world.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

A boy can dream

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It depends on where you live too. There are federal laws and state laws, but people tend to report to the wrong people too.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

That's what I'm saying!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

he's lied and fabricated and my guess is there's no solid evidence

10 years ago | Likes 90 Dislikes 1

what I meant was I'm sure there's some legal loophole that's prevented him from being prosecuted. Though I heard he was being shut down...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There is a huge amount of evidence on The Truth page, documented in his own words, vet reports, etc.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yet somehow an imgurian is able to figure this all out.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

There's video evidence...

10 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 1

which makes me wonder if there's more to this story

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

TL; DR guy "breeds" dogs in puppy mill set up. Pretends to "train" them through fear and abuse (i.e withholding water)

10 years ago | Likes 1617 Dislikes 11

Can't this sort of thing be reported to the BBB?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because he's not an actual business. There has been a LOT done and there is a LOT being done, but the wheels of gov. are awfully slow.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It should be e.g. not i.e.as you are giving an example rather than clarifying. Otherwise I don't have anything clever to add to a good TLDR.

10 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 3

I think it should be put out just to clarify. I was just sticking with OP's "make up your own mind" thing.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

*e.g., think i.e. = that is, e.g. = for example. So i.e. is used for clarification and e.g. is used for providing one or more examples.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I know, I always confuse the two.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh, just heard a new-to-me mnemonic: i.e. -> in essence, e.g. -> egsample; maybe that will help :)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That actually work. I think very phonetically. Thanks

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Very few yelp reviews, a change.org petition with 1500 signatures, 1 review on google.. guys let's do the thing. Here's some links 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

You've seen the Imgur Hug of Death. *cracks knuckles* Let's show this prick the Imgur Dickpunch of Fury.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Yur! >:D

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Also, just Google griffin kennels and 1 star that bitch on google reviews.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

His phone #-(774) 212-4973

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Is putting bogus reviews wise based on things we've found out here? Or will that just make him look the victim

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Please do sign the petition but I don't want anything to lessen the seriousness of this.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

He is a piece of shit in OP's opinion and likely should be put out of business.

10 years ago | Likes 205 Dislikes 3

Just not vaccinating dogs makes breeders awful. The main four vaccines dogs require are for highly contagious and high rates of fatality.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The fact that parvo spread through his dogs ranks disturbs me. That is a hard painful death.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A better TL;DR than mine, i bow to thee.

10 years ago | Likes 89 Dislikes 2

Steal it.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Put out of business... or, you know, arrested for running a puppy mill, animal abuse, animal neglect, fraud, and probably about 80 others.

10 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

Yep, that would be the best, most lawful way to put him out of business.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He lives in the US so that's a felony now. Pretty sure a lot of inmates wouldn't be kind to an animal abuser

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He should be forced to play the bitch in a puppy farm. Then jailed. Maybe late term aborted to boot

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Again, good way to put him out of business, though still not as lawful as @Triavalon 's suggestion

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

PSA: Prong collars, if used correctly, are not bad. Pit bulls, when trained correctly, are just dogs. Don't believe something is bad 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

just because someone tells you it's bad without reason. Become informed! 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

Prong collars should only be used in extreme cases- and only as a stepping stone to a training collar or martingale collar imo.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

I used one briefly with my chocolate lab because he would lunge at people (in a friendly manner) and our city is on a dog killing spree

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Never said they were bad, just controversial because they are, im not going to ramble about my personal view on them, this aint the place.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

lawlysmoke is obviously not calling you out on misinformation or w/e. Just stating that they are not bad, when used correctly.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

word

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

To everyone out there now worried about breeders, here is a good chart to help you pick a good breeder: http://imgur.com/8Db8FP6

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

In case you actually want to read the chart http://www.asgardcaucasians.com/BreederComparisonMatrix-1.png (thanks though, was interesting)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There are plenty of breed specific rescue groups if breed really factors into your decision to get a dog. Adopt. Adopt. Adopt.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Better yet, just get a rescue instead of insisting on breed nonsense.

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

My familly got my dog breed becuse we needed a hunting dog plus our dog was already house trained and really friendly

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yup, humane societies or rescue centers are the best!

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

how has no one shot him yet?

10 years ago | Likes 85 Dislikes 9

And this is why people say Americans are always killing each other

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 6

Anything negative is instantly deleted from the kennel fb page. His followers are also sheep and defend him with nonsense. Also (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

He has also claimed people are discriminating against him for being A. Gay (apparently)? and B. Not white.Which is ridiculous.

10 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 0

well he does look like a total bottom - no offense to gays

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

does he live in the US? he should be arrested

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

He is not white? He looks white.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

10/10 would spam this link on his Facebook page if I had a Facebook.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

ignoring both of those, he's ruining peoples (and dogs) lives by selling them these malformed and malignantly ill dogs. so again (1/2

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

why hasnt he been shot?

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Probably because no ones managed to get near enough to him with a gun.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

Because nobody is stupid enough to shoot people because they treat dogs badly. You should seek some counseling.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 25

A. people have killed for much less. B. Shooting doesnt equal killing, they could have meant just like, capping him.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

you're wrong, and so is your username.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

According to your username,and your comment, you are a huge moron. Take your own advice and seek some counseling.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

With the amount of harm he's done he should be shot. Maybe he doesn't deserve die but he doesn't deserve to live.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Neither do you.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Person tortures an animal-that person isn't fit for society. Can't allow that sickness to be bred into future gens - need to kill it off.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

If you are ready to kill a person solely on this is reason, you need to be killed off.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

As a shepherd owner, this sickens me. Especially the breeding part. THEY HAVE TO BE HIP SCORED!

10 years ago | Likes 209 Dislikes 2

Hip dysplasia and really any joint dysfunction is terribly sad, to see a young energetic dog trapped by pain and discomfort is heartbreaking

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

MUST SEE PICS OF YOUR BABIES!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Here is some breeder info for those looking in the future http://imgur.com/8Db8FP6 (but the best choice is always the humane society <3)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I have a Catahoula-German/Australian shepherd. Advice? I've always had labs or mutts. She is more Catahoula though. Very difficult.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Personally because of high energy breeds that is mixed a "job" will do wonders. I did agility with my border x for intellectual stimulation

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She is very agile and has even shown signs of being able to climb, which is what Catahoulas were bred for. I take her running every day, 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

but I feel like she wants more. I'm a bad mother.... :(

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Plenty of mental stimulation- Brain games and complex but short training session. get her nose and other senses working with scent games etc

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And physical activities like agility, flyball or just throwing things into water and getting her to swim. Playing with other dogs is -

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fantastic physical and mental exercise too so if you have dog parks or walking groups get her involved.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hip scored?

10 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

Hip dysplasia is very common in GSD. You have to have their hips checked in order to verify they are not on their way to having it.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Pennhip testing. Same goes for most large/giant breed dogs.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

To breed, GSD's have to have their hips reviewed by a vet. This is because they have horrendous inbreeding problems re their hips.

10 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 1

It's not connected to inbreeding, hip dysplasia can affect pretty much any large breed dog.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

It is quite widely recognised as an inbreeding problem with German Shepherds.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Just with the "show line" of german shepherds that have horrid hip angles.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

"A hip score is a measure of evidence of hip dysplasia (abnormal development). Scores for each hip are added together (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 0

Hip dysplasia and really any joint dysfunction is terribly sad, to see a young energetic dog trapped by pain and discomfort is heartbreaking

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

to get an overall hip score for a dog." You want the lowest score possible, if the dog has a high hip score it should not be bred. (2/2)

10 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 0

To add on: Him not scoring his dogs means you have no idea what sort of problems the puppies may have in future, or what nightmarish

10 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

Litters he is creating.

10 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Quick question...do GSD mixes have issues with dysplasia or is it mainly in purebred or inbred?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

GSD mixes can, too. Thankfully, the likelihood is less due to a greater gene pool. It is obvious this guy is not breeding for structure.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Many irresponsible "breeders" neglect to hip score and pull from breeding programs because they want the GSD slope of topline. So, purebred

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The slanted ones are prone to hip issues and are in my opinion just kind of a sick spinoff of the actual breed.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

That's good to know! Thank you! Her and her brother had straight backs and look a lot like your link. But they also have pitt (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(2/2) possibly sharpei, mastiff and maybe even some australian shepherd mixed in.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Granted, though, they've been working at fixing the hips and sizing the dogs back down for some years in Europe at least.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm liking the string of Imgur Investigations... Good on ya mate. Fuck dog abusers

10 years ago | Likes 904 Dislikes 3

Tonight, on imgur investigates, (dun dun du)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Imgurstivations? Naw, yours is better

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tonight, on imgur investigates (dun dun dun)

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

OP: "he must be great at what he does and provide the best of the breed, right?"; Me: "Right!"; OP: "Wrong!"; me: =(

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I am one for a dramatic flare.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My rescue was abused :( he's quirky but so friendly! It's amazing how trusting they can be again:)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dont...They are probably as terrible when it comes to sexy-time as they are when it comes to dog training. Fuck nice people instead! ;)

10 years ago | Likes 170 Dislikes 3

Serious question, why are you calling the dogs "bitch" I get it's supposed to be female dog but... Isn't that like mean? Seriously asking.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

I dont think it is, same as a female deer is a doe and most female birds are hens and female foxes vixens. Its just how i refer to lady dogs

10 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 3

Ah I see. Idk im just used to people using the word as an insult. Not as a term to actually describe female dogs xD

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

Yeah dont worry i get ya.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

touche

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 2

This is great info. I live with people who don't know anything about training their Shepherd, got any proper training technique links pls?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Depends what the problems are? Seperation anxiety? Aggression to humans or dogs? Lack of socialisation? etc.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Separation is a problem because she's caged often due to overexcited jumping and playing at all times that hurt, she's social but no control

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I just don't know what training methods she needs, that her owners will utilize. They're lazy about it and only want to play and walk her

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Does she get off-lead exercise such as fetching or swimming? Most problems with these breeds begin when they get bored and restless.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fetching, running sometimes, and a lot of rough housing / teasing play with owner that winds her way up. Rarely tired when I see her caged.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0