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Krashtestdummy
RibbleTPibits
duktayp
Phantom Menace
509tigerfish
Good suggestion yes, remake that now and no fucking Jarjar
quasarvoyager2
Middling midiclorianated Flash Gordon remake.
datelessbowl
World war Z
bacross
Buckaroo banzai.. with a budget. Honestly though some of those "bad" movies has such eclectic casts it's hard to imagine a remake.. also ones like krull
QotU
I don’t know, I live the OG Buckaroo Bonzai
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Ender's Game
Arrrrgggggghhhh
I feel like it need/s to be a series, the movie felt so rushed.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I could be cool with that
FlyingTigerRose
Loved the remake of Dune, though.
Endocrom
I loved Lynch Dune already
Fortherea
I‘m looking at you, Wing Commander
scragman
johnblood616
Krull. The answer is Krull.
sweetguanaca
They did that with “Dune”. If you haven’t yet watch “Jodorowsky's Dune” is a documentary about the original idea for the movie. It was crazy, but amazing.
quasarvoyager2
I personally think Jodorowskys Dune would have been awful. Amazing in it's craziness, but still a terrible adaptation of a complex, an philosophically dense novel. Villeneuve really managed to tread fine line between doing the story justice, but not feeling like a slog.
glittalogik
Oh absolutely, Jodorowsky is/was straight-up insane. I'm glad there are creative nutjobs out there pushing the envelope in general, but there was no way his adaptation would have been anything but a shitshow. Possibly an entertaining spectacle of a shitshow, but a shitshow nonetheless.
sweetguanaca
I agree with you, I thought the concept art by H.R. Giger was amazing though.
Sorrontis
we all agree there
mirrorz
Dredd > Judge Dredd but was still critically panned.
bertchstudio
We're not remaking cop properties
quasarvoyager2
Was it? Got decent reviews in the UK as far as I remember, but it is the home of Dredd.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Yep. Because people remembered Stallone's version and did not go see Urban's.
imtiredboss
Word of mouth got me to rethink that and check it out. I also avoided it because of the Stallone version at first.
thedudeman519
I seem to recall it being universally praised.
idiotsonfire
But that's a risk, OP. You expect the studios to do anything that doesn't "earn" them a billion $+ at the box office?
pfshfine
Spawn
xXxX66SICKXxXx
Fuck yes, please?
ThrashAndChemistry
But can the remake have the same soundtrack as the original?
Dobster
Hopefully this is what's happening with The Running Man. The source is fascinating and tragic. The first film version was silly and lacked jeopardy.
thedudeman519
I dunno. The trailer makes it look like it's also a bit silly.
fsharpminor3s
Ladyhawke comes to mind. It was a great story, poorly executed though.
geoffreyfourmyle
In the 80's it was a good flick. My wife and I tried rewatching it a few years ago. Most of the characters held up better than I feared. Broderick's character's running commentary to God is still awesome.
The synthesizer soundtrack... not so much. And some of the dialogue needs to be rewritten to sound less like a children's book.
thedudeman519
Ahh with Rutger Hauer!
UncleRat
The Maltese Falcon (1941) was a remake of the 1931 film. Yes. There should be remakes of earlier movies.
Youhavinagiraffe
I think you argue it was more like a 2nd adaptation of the original novel. There are a few examples of that like Wizard of Oz and Scarface.
Revicus
The Wizard of Oz/Scarface continuity connection was little-known, so a lot of people were thrown off by the scene in one of the lesser sequels where Dorothy snorts a line and goes berserk with a gun.
CeruleanK
I have heard the original Ocean's Eleven described as little more than an excuse for the Rat Pack to hang out and drink.
Hexrowe
And "The House of Wax" is a superior in every way remake of "The Mystery of the Wax Museum". There should, IMO and in agreement with the OP, be remakes mostly of earlier movies that could have been great but weren't.
JPRiddles
The Paris Hilton one?
Hexrowe
Oof. Yeah no, the Vincent Price one.
SaturnineCult
The Thing is also remake of The Thing from Another World (1951), though the original is not really that bad considering its age.
mediumrarechickenstrips
mecalise
Be careful. Imgur is full of Disney Star wars apologists. Last time I made a joke about the sequels I was flooded with hate.
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
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PixelSprite64
Somehow the bothans died, many of them
bloodtaker3
RIP Manny Bothans
theReplicantsWereRight
Still kills me. Lol
MissMittens
ERAGON
HUGE BEST SELLER
Though I think the movie gets too much hate for what it was
ArmedandOverclocked
so i saw the movie before i read the books and i thought the movie was "ok" as a generic fantasy/action flick. once i read the book i felt insulted
Freak0zoid
Same.
JustinArnold
The problem with the movie, imo, is that they went too far off the rails. The story is crazy enough. And then the ending basically killed any chance of a sequel that followed the books plot.
MantisTobagganMD
Nah, I was massive fan of the Eragon series (The Inheritance Cycle), and think the film is hot garbage. Saw it in theaters on release and the disappointment was Earth shattering for my little nerd body.
MissMittens
Same as the Dark Tower movie. I watched it never having read the books and thought "meh". But then I read the books and thought "what?" There should be a legal requirement separating what a producer who never read a book interprets it to mean vs an actual book-move. "Amazon's ruining of: The Wheel of Time". That way people know not to conflate the two.
iamlegendinjapan
That is the point. Remake it so that it is actually good
MantisTobagganMD
Yes, I understand that. I'm disagreeing with the assertion that the original is not that bad "for what it is". It's just an objectively bad film, much less a bad adaptation.
iamlegendinjapan
Yeah it was just a terrible movie to the point of avatar and dragon ball evolution
notblubber
Can't wait to see the remake of 200 Motels.
TheFleshItBurns
Who's gonna play the nun with the harp?
Bubbertubs
Someone get Dweezil on the line now!
friendsofsandwiches
I would like to see disney remakes that tell different stories from different perspectives.
Like the first Malficent movie.
Maybe the entire Lion King story from John Oliver's perspective.
Fuck, you could do a whole Last Week Africa, with Zazu as host.
friendsofsandwiches
And he'd be talking about Scar like Oliver talks about Trump
Wuz314159
From the perspective of a voice actor? Bold! I like it.
VeganFeministFlatEarther
In theory this is a good idea, but in practice we end up with situations like Cruella where they're trying to say the lady who desperately wanted to steal, kill, and skin someone's litter of puppies was really just misunderstood and quirky.
friendsofsandwiches
You mean...like the movie that came out a few years ago?
JPRiddles
Oof
VeganFeministFlatEarther
...... I mean, I don't think it's possible to read my comment as doing anything other than negatively referencing that movie.
meme2zombie
They used to do that, some of what we think of as classic movies were the 2nd attempts.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Yeah, like The Fly and The Thing. Both '80s classics were originally '50s classics.
meme2zombie
and Ben Hur and Wizard of Oz IIRC.
thedudeman519
The Blob as well
pvtsquirel
That... wasn't a very good movie, I looked up the 1988 trailer just to make sure we're thinking of the same thing, and it's actually funny how bad the trailer is. I remember it almost being scary as a kid, but I wasn't a film critic or anything at 9 so maybe I should watch it again lol
thedudeman519
I mean it's not great, but it is really graphic. I definitely shouldn't have seen it as a kid lol
pvtsquirel
Me neither lol those crazy bastards I call my parents let me watch Casino at 10 and watching that dude get beat to death with a baseball bat and them burying his brother alive with him... that shit stuck with me, the little blob alien, not so much lol
woozle
I want to see a remake of They Live
RalphH
Bad movie with good story, this is an already perfect movie!
tantallous
just go outside and film whats going on then
Wuz314159
You can't improve on perfection.
CapttainKillJoy
That movie exceeded expectations for a B movie starring a wrestler.
GorgoZilla
The only thing B-Movie was the expectations of the acting quality.
CapttainKillJoy
I remember not expecting much and being blown away. My whole family was. We watched it again the next day. It was a 2 day rental.
woozle
I'd just like to see it without the wrestling. Reminds me of Logan's Run. It's so '70's you can barely stomach it.
CapttainKillJoy
They remade Logan’s Run with a different name, somewhat changed plot and Justin Timberlake. It wasn’t that great.
woozle
Logan's Run is such a good concept. That's a shame.
CapttainKillJoy
Yeah, haven’t seen it in decades but I remember it decently. They filmed part of it in the Water Gardens here in downtown Fort Worth, Texas so I was made aware of it at an early age. It is so dated now, yep. Kinda in the same way Soilent Green or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre are.
taez555
Blasphemy!!! In Time is a great movie. Ok... maybe you're right... it's not great, but it's not bad. Funny enough, I find the plot and idea somehow actually makes up for the poor follow through. :-)
CapttainKillJoy
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Sebastopol140
100% this! But they won't.
ThadeusPrinceOfFoxes
Which is weird, they are re-using existing ideas/stories either way. I guess they assume previously popular entries are more likely to be profitable?
TheZodiacKillerForHumanPresident
They certainly keep trying with Fantastic 4
MacDinero
Exactly what I thought when I saw the trailer. I guess they’re counting on Pedro to finally make a successful one
TheWombatStrikesAgain
From the perspective of someone looking for a safe investment, it makes little sense, since the name is already tainted. Yeah, you could turn it around by making an actually good movie, but the baseline expectations are negative, so you'll have a harder time drawing an audience than the 12th reboot of something good.
Lichelf
It turns out most people aren't gonna go and pay good money to re-watch that bad movie they didn't enjoy 10 years ago and forgot about until now.
Obviously there's an exception for bad movies that became cult classics, as well as new adaptations that aren't actually remakes (like Dune and Casino Royale)
The few times they did remake bad movies they either failed to make an impact and were forgotten again, or the new movie became so popular the original was forgotten. Either way, it's been done.
tellmeyoursafeword
Could you give some examples?
Appreciate it!
Lichelf
Flatliners and The Crazies were both bad movies with potential that got remakes that nobody watched.
While the original Westworld wasn't bad most people don't even know the show is a remake.
barstr7
Most of the time Hollywood execs fundamentally misunderstand why a movie failed to make money. Think of all the box office flops that go on to become huge cult hits, in the old home video days or now on streamers. Some failed directly due to exec meddling. Hell, how many movies did Weinstein sink just because an actor wouldn't screw him?
EmptyHouseBurglar
Dredd with Urban was excellent
CoreCollective
Challenge: Gigli
JoeT85
they could try again with Eragon, but they won't. Fair warning, there's too much content to do The Belgariad, so don't even ask. If they try, they'll miss too much.
509tigerfish
Agreed remake it
MyGreatestFearBoner
No one has the courage to remake Manimal!
Dasnekones
Remake both. There is value in rescuing bad movies but also remaking good ones both accurately and with new themes and spins.
quasarvoyager2
They did, multiple times...
CelestialSea
Yes, because the Kyle Maclachlan version of Dune should always be considered the gold standard for novel adaptations?
Sebastopol140
HAHAHA OMG no please no. What a weird idea.
kaarbaakimgr
LotR got better thanks to PJ.
thedudeman519
You mean the Extended Editions?
JoeT85
LOTR original cat crusher novel, doesn't get improved upon. The movies were a very condensed version.
LariCheltsy
World War Z
Fortherea
Meh, it wasn’t bad, but it definitely wasn’t the book. That collection of reports is a piece of art!
CarlBassett
There was a nuclear sub thriller made as a TV movie starring David Soul (Starsky And Hutch) which was a good story, a bit like Crimson Tide. A big budget remake could be a really good movie.
CarlBassett
It was called The Fifth Missile.
pvtsquirel
Watched it once, didn't hate it, but my feelings were pretty much, "that was definitely a movie, and Brad Pitt sure is pretty"
DyingOx
Bigcurly2000
I'd say it wouldn't even be "remaking" the movie, it would be simply ignoring it and making one actually based on the book!
TheWheelIsSpinningButTheMouseIsDead
100% this. How they strayed so far from the source material is beyond me...
Bigcurly2000
As others have said, it would work FAR better as a series, maybe 10 episodes. A single film could never do it justice!
darkjedi70
Trilogy. It is SO easy to make this a trilogy. Movie 1: Great Panic up to Yonkers. Movie 2: Life under the Zombies up to the Battle of Hope. Movie 3: Retaking the world.
Bigcurly2000
Good idea! How would you format it: have the "interviewer" character as a more prominent expanded main character (you know how movie-goers need a charismatic lead to latch onto) or keep it truer to the book with all the plot and action happening in the individual stories, with the interviewer basically as a neutral device to tell the stories through? I think that was the main problem with the film, they "needed" a main character. I think there could be a balance between the two formats.
bigby4sheriff
The audiobook is pretty great. If they did live action like band of brothers style then fuck yes
LariCheltsy
LariCheltsy
And please do it while Mark Hamill is alive to reprise that role...
bigby4sheriff
Hearing him say die mutherfucker die is peak
LariCheltsy
EXACTLY the part I was thinking of!
freshthrowaway1138
And I would say that WWZ should only be a serialized show and not a single film.
freakdiablo
Yup. It's a slow burn, not fast action.
Bigcurly2000
Agreed
JustinArnold
Yeah, the book was written, iirc, as a series of like...interviews/perspectives from various points in the infections existence. I still remember the soldier explaining their new weapons and the mile long wall of dead zombies from their first deployment
iamgnat
What? Who doesn't want to see the same superhero's origin story over and over again?
I mean, I'm still not quite sure I understand why Bruce Wayne became Batman and fights crime. Something about spilled popcorn at a movie I think????
/s
thedudeman519
Batman Begins was almost 20 years ago though
Horsenippleking
Yeah but the tv show Gotham was 10 years ago and Batman v Superman was 8 years ago. So it’s not like they haven’t done it recently. The last main Batman movie was 2 years ago and that was the first one to not show it
thedudeman519
Gotham is also wildly different than just his origin story considering all the stuff they throw into it while he's jut a kid though, no?
Did they do his origin in BvS? I thought he was already established and they showed it in flashbacks.
Horsenippleking
Yeah they showed his entire origin in Batman v Superman in flashback but that’s still the entire background
ElbowDeepInAJedi
That would be impossible because that would mean I'm old. Now help me up out of my recliner I need to take my ibuprofen and I can't remember where I left it.
tzahtman
None of the following recent first films have been origin stories: Spiderman: Homecoming, The Batman, and the new Superman film. It was certainly a problem but they have started curtailing that habit.
imtiredboss
Interviews with directors and producers have a lot admit that people know these characters now so they feel they don't need to explain why I guy has powers or fights crime, and even if people don't know these characters... the origin story was often not even the first story about these characters in the comics, that came after. Kind of like introducing a character and you get backstory later.
thedudeman519
It was only a problem with heroes that constantly got brought to the screen. And even then, as you said, The Batman and Marvels Spider-Man flicks didn't bother. They trust that the audience knows who these characters are .
Wuz314159
He was bit by a radioactive bat dumbass. Everyone knows that!
iamgnat
FUCK!
They really need to make these movies less subtle😭
AStrayCowLivesHere
The Dark Tower
dizzyturtle
Came looking for this comment. +1
servingmytimeinusersub
So help me, I saw the trailers before I read the books. Idris Elba is an amazing actor, but he's not a "honk moffa" and no matter how many times I read through them, he's all I can picture.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
It’s happening. Mike Flanagan is working on it. Based on Flanagan’s other work, I have high hopes.
demolitionlover09
I really hope it’s a series or multiple movies. You can’t do the dark tower in one movie
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
It’s my understanding that it’s supposed to be a series with follow up films.
demolitionlover09
Yassss
thedudeman519
He did the Haunting of Hill House right?
WorstCommentEver
Haunting of hill house was so good.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Yup. Fall of the House of Usher, Doctor Sleep, Haunting of Bly Manor, Midnight Mass, Gerald’s Game and Hush. I also liked Midnight Club, but it was cancelled before season 2.
bippityboppitybuttsex
So, you pitch that to people with money, 'hey, so, this story is really awesome, but it was made badly last time... that is why it didn't make money, not because the story is bad...'
What do you think the odds are you walk out with a green light and a check?
imtiredboss
Very low, but not impossible. Dune and Judge Dredd are good examples of reviving franchises that had poor adaptations.
bippityboppitybuttsex
The remake of Dress was fucking amazeballs... one of the best reboots ever.... the first Dune (with Sting, et al), was unwatchable drek.
Youhavinagiraffe
You can definitely do a version of this by elevating a previously more niche, B-movie with a director who is passionate about the genre. There are a lot of examples in horror like "The Thing" (the 1983 version was already a remake FYI) and Spielberg, Lucas, Tarantino etc have made careers out of effectively doing their own version of campy shit they loved as kids (most were not literal remakes though and more spiritual homages)
bippityboppitybuttsex
The 1983 Thing was amazing tho... much better than the original... and the expanded universe is pretty impressive.
unluckyandbored
Zero.
nickelrocket
IIRC Disney may actually be entertaining the idea and could remake The Black Cauldron. Closer to the Chronicles of Prydain story.
ME2BNS12
You just need a better hype man, my guy
bippityboppitybuttsex
Usually when you have a better hype man, you get just that, just hype.
How many things have you been excited about that met your expectations? Cuz, I am in my 50s and I haven't been amazed in decades... I mean, like The Matrix on first viewing... the BSG reboot (the initial season)... Andor lived up to expectations... Boba Fett still makes me shiver with annoyance... Murderbot is very good... For All Mankind... Rick and Morty... SG1/Atlantis... Strange New Worlds... this is good stuff, but...
bippityboppitybuttsex
... making me shriek with childlike wonder? That is hard to pull off...
Terrantino does a good job of fascinating me... but most stuff is just recycled crap.
frosss
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LokilairTTV
Ask James Gunn, The Suicide Squad for example
bippityboppitybuttsex
The Suicide Squad was an amazing movie, Suicide Squad, not so much....
IrrationalNumber
Yup, that's why things that are profitable get axed, as they're not making enough *more* profit than last time period.
abrazenfool
Naturally
bippityboppitybuttsex
I am still sad I can't see Coyote v Acme... that sounded awesome
SinisterDuff
So did Batgirl.
Bubbertubs
The day the earth blew up, while not the same is actually really good. Porky and Daffy and some really neat cut out style animation.
PlacentaEaters
Unless something changed that's coming out next year
bippityboppitybuttsex
YAY!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_vs._Acme
Merdock
The "Initial cancellation, reversal and further discussions" section was a read. I'm glad to hear it's scheduled to be released
magicrhombus
It's easy to blame the executives, but people who liked the first movie turn up and pay to see the remake. Even if they just badmouth it for its mediocrity after the fact, they still watched it.
imtiredboss
Yeah, Star Wars: The Last Jedi was received poorly and people still went out and gave Disney a billion dollars for Rise of Palpatine.
morningxafter
Even if they didn’t like the first movie, but liked the book it was based on. I haven’t liked any iteration of Fahrenheit 451 yet, not the 1966 version or the 2018 version, but I’ll keep seeing them in the hopes that one day they’ll do justice to my favorite book.
idiotsonfire
No, its the executives that are at fault. People who are just going to see a movie, are just going to see a movie. Executives green lit it.
magicrhombus
Two things can be true at once. The executives are chasing money, not creative expression. That's true. The public is paying them for the slop they put out, that is also true. They do it because it works.
bippityboppitybuttsex
So, an example, The Day the Earth Stood Still... original? Scifi classic about Jesus... the remake with John Wick... just bad.
Total Recall, remake was horrible; War of the Worlds, okay; Dune, much better; I Am legend, forgot the premise; BSG, amazeballs; Robocop, didn't even try, seriously, did they give a shit?
poderous
I liked the new robocop. Different in style and theme from the original and not as good. But I still liked it.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Sure... but it did not have the soul of the original... just like the remake of total recall...
interesseret
The Will Smith "i am legend" movie is honestly so far removed from the novel that it makes no sense. The title is completely meaningless.
And the part about the dog is so much worse in the book.
bippityboppitybuttsex
The entire premise is lost... TBH, look at the I, Robot disaster... esp when you compare it to the late-1970s Harlan Ellison treatment... I think the real problem is Will Smith...
CelestialSea
So like... Dune?
mooseablethenok
Which one, Dune 1984, Dune 2001, Dune 2023, or Dune 2024?
CelestialSea
Does it matter? Point is Dune movies have not met expectations yet they get remade, contrary to what the meme assumes.
mooseablethenok
the 2001 SciFi miniseries is fucking fantastic sit down.
skysorcerer
Dune Part One was good. Part Two is a 6/10. I'm still owed a 4 year-old possessed ninja psychopath killing her evil grandpa.
CelestialSea
I make no judgment here on whether the Villeneuve Dunes are better or worse, merely that the original did not meet expectations. That is the bar the meme sets.
KingKrabvoldIV
Denis’ dune is great, unless you are a psychopath and want a remake of Lynch’s.
t55mn7pdp74
Lynch’s Dune is better in almost every way
BibiTheBooBoo
I've read all of the books, including the recent ones. I think it would be impossible to accuratly adapt them into a movie. That said, I loved the recent movies and think they add to the "Dune Universe"
ImpossibleAgenda
Lynch's has a special... charm... to it.
aerophex
I mean... Sting
Noahbalboa82
I love that version! And the new one. The old one had a wonderful cinematography, very dark. Paul's internal narration was great. But I understand it's not for everyone
criticalhitkoala
It's personal preference because I think she's dreamy, but Lynch had the better Chani. Though Zendaya did look cool. Sean young in bladerunner and dune was my young crush.
t55mn7pdp74
Every casting choice by Lynch was superior
criticalhitkoala
Agree on virginia Madsen for irrulin and Patrick Stewart. But I'm very partial to Rebecca Ferguson and Oscar Isaac. I adore Rebecca. Also Dave was my favored rabban. I love both movies for their reasons.
ArmedandOverclocked
i agree. it works. idk why it works, but it works even on re-watches later in life.
KingKrabvoldIV
Even Lynch disowned it. It’s not good in any respect to be honest.
t55mn7pdp74
He only disowned that 3 hour cut that he had not part of (Alan Smithee cut)
taez555
"Best we can do ruin another treasured animated classic with a live action remake." <---Disney
Shadowkrieger
Treasure planet?
williamvanauger
And yet they keep making a shitload of money. People can just stop seeing them
Akurei00
"live action" Lion King
deadpoolislovedeadpoolislife
ThAt'S hOlLyWoOd BaBy
edasm
WEIRD weird.
PorneliusHubertII
Libe action treasure planet coming soon.
Lifk
People still watch them massively no matter how shitty they are. Apparently snow white is a solid success on disney + streaming.
JayEnfield
The cgi lion king made four times as much money as the original. The audiences are rewarding this.
SquashDemon
"let's do Princess and the Frog again, but live action, and with really bad renditions of the music, also let's figure out how to make it really insulting to women and people of color"
Hotsauceman
Remake the movie based on Splash Mountain…
FinancialRavioli
Give me a live action "Atlantis: The Lost Empire" that leans heavily into steampunk and and I can die happy.
Stellori
But would they be able to make it good, without a bunch of arbitrary changes?
FermentTheRich3000
It would have to be at least as good as the original. Another shifty live action remake starring Russell Brand.
Clayman8
No. Please dont.
Let us have at least ONE good memory left.
umwht
a live action Atlantis, Black Cauldron or Treasure plant are the only remakes i want to see from Disney at this point
Youhavinagiraffe
I don't really why so many people think bad remakes somehow "ruin" the original. They ruin themselves, sure, but the original still exists exactly as it did before. It's not a Star Wars special edition situation where they literally go back and edit the original so it makes less sense and looks worse. The only bad consequence of the a bad remake is companies exploiting copyright law for fictional characters that should be public domain by now
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I mean, I won't ever watch The Lion King if it isn't the cartoon version, it's just better.
KWJester49
Yeah, I dont get that mentality either. Making a new version doesnt take anything away from the original
ThrowAwayAcct0000
This. I've seen good and bad versions of Shakespeare's plays. One doesn't ruin the other.
KWJester49
That's probably the best way to articulate the point ive heard.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Thanks, man!
Vergenbuurg
Remember, they keep going that route because it allows them to exploit overworked, underpaid, non-union VFX artists, rather than unionized animators.
Dreamworks followed their lead with that on How to Train Your Dragon. Despite the fact it got good reviews, and I *adore* the original, I avoided it on principle.
Asadsadsadclown
That is why they are choosing live action but the remakes themselves are due to copyright issues. As seen with Mickey and Pooh, their catalog is hitting the public domain and they can't lobby the government to extend the time limits anymore. So they need to make new copyrightable depictions to reset the timer as they transition the brands to the new versions and away from the old ones.
Asadsadsadclown
The best example of how that works is again Mickey and Pooh. The earliest versions of them are now in the public domain. Steamboat Willy and the original Pooh teddy bear from the children's book. Modern Mickey with red pants and white gloves is good for a few more decades, as is the modern Pooh with his red shirt and lumpy body. Each version that is distinct enough from the others effectivity has its own countdown for public domain.
Asadsadsadclown
The recent remake of Snow White was made because the original is set to expire in 2032.
TheBigBadBonerBiter
Also because they typically make a gorillion dollars. Lilo & Stitch 2025 is within spitting distance of $1 billion in box office. Obviously Disney sucks for continuing to make these for nefarious reasons, but past a certain it's on consumers for rewarding them for it.
Colopty
That's mainly due to parents who want a couple hours off from being a parent and are thus willing to throw money at anything that can keep their kid distracted with no regards for whether it's actually a good movie or not. That particular demographic is a scourge on the quality of cinema.
Vergenbuurg
That infuriates me, considering what a terrible movie the Lilo & Stitch remake turned out to be, with a completely wretched ending.
Not only is Disney making bank on it on the backs of the non-union VFX artists, but they're using it as a launching pad to promote their new Hawaiian resort.
thedudeman519
Is there new Hawaiian resort in the area that was recently devastated by a hurricane ?because if so that would be even more fucked.
Bronnen
My kids loved it as did my wife and I
Wraithofspades
Do you think it ruins the classic or (further) ruins Disney's legacy?
Fanner50
The only legacy Disney cares about is making money.
Rijtjeshuis
Why not both?
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Its does not ruin the classic... for those who grew up with it. For kids who their first time seeing something like Lilo and Stitch is live action that will forever taint it. Its like starting someone off in GTA by giving them "The Definitive Edition"
thedudeman519
If you don't start by playing the OG top down game by DMA design, what are you even doing!?
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I think Disney does well in waves, and this is not one of their great years, but they have enough money to be around a long time from now.
hfctom
"What if we changed the message of the story to the exact opposite of what the message of the original story was about?" -- Disney Exec. (HANDJOBS AND RAISES ALL AROUND!)
MechKelly
They kind of already did that when they turned Grimm Fairytales into animated movies for kids.
Perkunas687
Which one was this?
MeeseOnABeam
how long do you have?
Bossco20
Lilo and Stich. Nani gives Lilo up to the foster system
Perkunas687
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carlitosmatute
Mulan. Instead of "improve yourself through hard work" and "use your brain if you don't have muscle" it was changed to "rely on plot armor and your magic inherited by luck".
Aerina
Even though I didn't watch it I'm guessing Lilo and Stitch since the message was about family and no one gets left behind
Cranbananarama
Seen enough reviews to get the idea. Among other things, in the end, Lilo's sister was convinced to leave Lilo behind to pursue studies on the mainland. (Supposedly able to come back with a science portal, but the "ohana" message was completely ditched.)
justfillingthespace
Yeah, Nani is in her dorm and Lilo is in her room, FaceTime'ing, then Nani goes offscreen and surprises her with what's basically a portal gun. It doesn't come from nowhere, the gun was used several times in the movie already, but...yeah.
Lyconous
And yet they left behind the point
EccentricNimoy
Disney is there to help erase morals from entertainment. Prove me wrong