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with Walter "Rorschach" Kovacs (Jackie Earle Haley)
Jul 31, 2023 7:04 AM
Ngugi
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with Walter "Rorschach" Kovacs (Jackie Earle Haley)
turomar
He was great in Human Target
LittleChickadee
Jackie nailed that performance! I adore the character because you can see the abused child he was, too broken to function in society. Jackie had that vulnerability in his eyes while not hiding the cruelty of Rorschach. Like the Comedian he sees the true horror of the plot reveal and even he cannot cross that final line no matter how extreme & fucked up his actions normally are. The tragedy of an anti-hero becoming a hero in the end...but too late
Iraliss
Rackie Hearl Maley
FatBastardVegetarian
Anyone seen Breaking Away? JEH is amazing in that movie.
gtotherizzle
Hrmmm
heartlessninja6
The Carnage we should’ve had. (Regardless of what you think of the movie)
rudejohn
I love this scene; I love the Rorschach character. The movie is worth watching (although not perfect), for those who might want to see more of the reason why the character is so great (or those who love it and want to be reminded), check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b0gRzJbe8s
TheOneThatGotBanned
torisenblack
Also played Grewishka from "Alita: Battle Angel"
DovvyDragon
Wait, RH MEN exist on Imgur?
BoogieDoobieDown
Shame they didnt make a sequel
Horsenippleking
The sequel show on Amazon is pretty great, it’s a comic sequel not movie but still solid
PicSweeney
When he played Kelly in Bad News Bears, I was 8 or 9 when it came out. I was bullied constantly & stood up to them in a way I’d imagine Kelly would have. That character saved me.
rouzuki
Oof Seth Green got old as heck.
Dissipo
TheseAreNotTheVotesYouAreLookingFor
kanemano
Ngugi
TY; and must say damn fine quality clip
Normandingo
Killing Rorschach ruined that movie for me
Chort26
aShogunNamedMarcus
That guy is bad news bears
giddyupmusic
He was my favorite.
Kinseeker69
Such a DAMN GOOD actor. Severely underrated
monkeyboy396
I don’t know how he isn’t in more stuff, his performance in Watchmen was 10/10
FScottFitzhardly
Irrevenant
"Which is my daughter, and which is the cow?"
Sebastopol140
Fauxcused
The central conceit of ozymandias and his act was that the world would unify against an external threat. Watching how we react to global warming and covid and all the other threats just so wrong he was. I can imagine Fox News covering the benefits of the giant alien and how something how it was the Democrats fault
TerranIV
Global warming is not an external threat. The reason nobody does anything about it is exploiting the Earth is still profitable.
Fauxcused
You just nitpicking words. External threat I mean anonymous threat like the environment that we have fucked up. Maybe instead of lashing out with a correction after you misunderstood with somebody said you should trying to understand it.
FetteredJuvenescence
Moore named Ozymandias for the poem. Comics logic (Convoluted to explain) says that the fact that no one mentions the poem cements this. The name tells you right away that nothing he accomplishes will last. That's the theme of the poem, after all.
Fauxcused
And I contend he is poorly named. Because his accomplishments would not last. This is also born out by the comic because it ends with his act bearing fruit but about to be ruined by Rorschach's evidence.
FetteredJuvenescence
That's why he's very *well* named. The great king Ozymandias in the poem also thought he'd accomplished great things that would last forever, but they all turned to dust and amounted to nothing in the end.
Fauxcused
Conceeded to your greater historical knowledge.
Iblamemyparentstoo
Yes, a thousand times yes!!
ReelPoop
who is steve jobs?
lenonova
I love that its at the point where nothing else needs to be said
Zanzetuken
Ligma balls
kojenk
NNNOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOO
igglebotato
Not much, dog, what's up with you
OobleBoobleOfDeath
I comment that thing he says in the film that you like.
Lichelf
When he looks into the camera and says "Me? I'm nobody. I'm just an instrument, here to unmask the truth about this cesspool we call a city."
OobleBoobleOfDeath
Bam!
CrashInfinite
The part where he yells "it's watchmen time!" And then he watches men all over the place
AdrianDunne
mommystothet
I liked the bit where he did that thing he does that one time.
patotheduck
No.
sfrinlan
It was truly one of the films of all time!
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
It was certainly on celluloid.
NeverDunNuffin
That was my favourite bit.
bloodtaker3
Mine was when he said "it's Rorschaching time!"
OobleBoobleOfDeath
Can't believe other films have tried to rip that off...
Inarticulated
Y'know he broke his toe when he kicked that helmet, right?
Snooj
The fridge wasn't supposed to knock E.T. over.
NeverDunNuffin
Harrison Ford was actually ill when filming that scene.
TwoSpeedTony
OmnesMundiLardum
positiveleroy
Notareptilian
For Rorschach, it was the end of his life. For Dr. Manhattan, it was just a Tuesday.
TheDildoOfConsequences
And Wednesday. And Saturday. And it is March 12th, 1981. He crosses the room to the Intrinsic Field Center.
ckirkham
Underrated comment 🤣 the demands on Dr. Manhattan's character are utterly unknowable to us mortal humans, even if we did think him up lol
AussieInsects
Jokes aside this scene fucked me up
4Astaroth
Yeah. Thinking they (Veidt and Manhatten) solved the Rorschach "problem", not knowing that he already passed on his diary. He could just have lived for the same outcome.
FetteredJuvenescence
Sort of. But if he'd just suddenly agreed to go along with it, it would have made Ozymandias suspicious. Ozy is a megalomaniac with blind spots but he's not a complete idiot. It would have been massively out of character for the only person in the world who kept defying the anti-hero law all those years to capitulate to something Ozy knew he would deeply disagree with. Besides I think he wanted to die.
4Astaroth
That's true. My point was that it doesn't matter if Rorschach is dead. He told everyone what happened with his diary. He as you just rightly said defies Ozy at any level. Ozy couldn't change anything by having Manhatten kill him. But yeah I guess Rorschach wanted to die anyway.
downvoteifyouhatekittens
Who's Steve Jobs
NeverConfusedForNaught
Jimbo64
Ligma balls.
Housemaster
miserycones
Alan Moore:
corpofilth
Similar things happened with Tony Soprano and Walter White, much to the creators' consternation
bearatrooper
Cops with Punisher stickers 🤝 incels with Rorschach masks
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Once more, Moore writing deeply dystopian shit and then finding out "oh, I was way too optimistic, my bad."
blaghart
Double funny when you look into how Alan Moore has gone completely down the Qanon incel train.
Lichelf
Source? That sounds like the complete opposite of what he would do. It only a year ago that he said he was afraid his comics might have helped inspire/create Qanon.
PicSweeney
😆
DarkwingDuc
Moore is right. But, it's also possible to love a character you know is a bad person. That's the beauty of fiction.
glacialisamor
This.
doctorId
Somehow I don't think the people who identify with Rorschach actually know he's supposed to be a bad person.
DarkwingDuc
It depends on how much they identify. One can see traits of themselves in a villain. That makes a villain more realistic and relatable. However, when one adopts a villain's identity whole cloth, there's a problem. It could be in the fan's understanding of the villain, the writing/presentation of the villain, or in the fan who sees the villainous deeds as a heroic.
FetteredJuvenescence
Yeah. More or less everyone in Watchmen is a terrible person. Even Dr. Manhattan, really. That saiiiid... As much as Rorschach is a racist, homophobic, far-right, conspiracy theorist nutjob bastard... I still have to side with him over Ozymandias.
Horsenippleking
On a personal level I would side against ozy but if his plan would def work I get why the others just let it happen.
agburanar
I would disagree that Manhattan is a terrible person - he's not a person at all anymore.
TheMostKink
Gravity, thou art a heartless bitch!
Ngugi
VaultGirl69
Some people idolize them because of their egos. Other people just feel they are relatable because they've suffered or are suffering in similar ways.
badatediting
It's all about understanding why they do what they do.
SpeerNA
You could add Paul Atreides to that list
Canofminus
Missing Tony Soprano
MrSmilingDeath
And Punisher
KilliK69
and Tony Curtis from Goodfellas
IAmTheEarlyEvening
TIL people think Ray Liotta looks like Tony Curtis. I don't see it.
TehGrimReaper
Archie Bunker used to be my go-to for this sort of thing, but I don't know if the young'uns these days know who that was.
photodepiction
I'm far from young and had to google who that was. 🤷♂️
Rillydealydalilommy
Those were the days...
sgnight13
Daenerys Targaryen belongs on this list. Was the embodiment of "US nuclear imperialism cloaked in self-righteousness" for the entire runtime of the show and people were still upset that she wasn't the hero at the end of the story
sgnight13
(not saying S8 was good, there's a hell of a lot about it that sucked and the pacing was all fucked up, but the amount of people who claimed that Dany turning evil was "character assassination" was absolutely insane)
Soujaofmisfortune
I remember a very similar quote from the creators/cast of Seinfeld. Fans would tell them that friend acts just like X character, and they'd say, something like. "Then your friend is a bad person because everyone was written to be narcissistic, neurotic, and generally horrible to be around." (I wish I could find the quote. I'm surely butchering it. But it was the same essence.)
bixby66
Or you know, written like Larry David and often times taken from things Larry David actually did.
DSREX
Seinfeld was about shallow people being rude in a NYC setting. I could not stand that show.
PrincessWendyB
Thank you. I never found it to be funny or entertaining
TheGrubinator
So it was about New Yorkers?
Unclescam
And then they made a near carbon copy of it and called it Friends.
DSREX
I was not a fan of that either. I mean is it is a crime that Friends got 8 seasons, and Firefly got one. No justice.
Isthe4thtimethecharm
Look up what was planned for Firefly season 2. You will understand.
localdisturbance
I dunno about comic, but in the movie, he was the only 'good' guy. all other characters have major personality flaws. he's just insane.
Lichelf
That's a major personality flaw.
SantasAnagram
They cleaned up his internal monologue a lot on the movie, in the comics all of his rantings are sprinkled with some psychotic hard-right rhetoric where everyone is disgusting vermin that need to be exterminated when the time is right.
Frogapus
Even in the movie, he references the death of a lesbian superhero as "what she deserved" for her "immoral" lifestyle.
Mokisan
https://imgur.com/mn3Jxit
lenonova
SlyMrFox
He never compromised his values. He'd gladly let a potential world ending war spring up than allow Ozymandias to get away with mass murder.
IAmTheEarlyEvening
His values were "everyone one but me is filth worthy of extermination," dude...let's not suck the ghost of his dick too hard.
SlyMrFox
I'm not defending him at all. Moore himself said Rorschach never compromised, which meant he was never going to survive the story. Don't go putting words in my mouth.
RockKickass
But why? Rorschach only killed a pedophile murderer and a few prisoners that were trying to kill him?
DarkwingDuc
He killed a pedophile murderer? Wouldn't he be for pedophile murderers?
RockKickass
A pedophile that murdered his victims
DarkwingDuc
Gotcha. So a pedophiliac murderer, or a murderous pedophile. Adjectives are important.
arlet
nah, in the comic he pretty much brutalized and butchered anyone who got in his way. there is a scene where he goes to a bar to interrogate the patrons, doesn't say a word and just shows up, cripples and maims a bunch of people before isolating one guy, tortures him and then asks his question.
arlet
there is another scene where a woman is getting mugged so he just silently rolls up on the guy, brutally murders him and walks away. no words spoken. it's like if a surfer is getting harassed by a shark but then a megalodon shows up and eats the shark. the surfer isn't going to go "thank god for that Megalodon". no he's going to go "i need to get the fuck out of the water".
rabbitron
Incorrect. Rorschach was a psychotic murderer of more than a few.
IAmTheEarlyEvening
You gotta put them spaces, my dude.
rabbitron
I did. It looks fine on desktop, but for some reason appears as a URL (without a space) on mobile.
RockKickass
Ah, never read the comics
kris40k
The child molester that fed the girl to the dogs was his first kill. That was the straw that broke the camel's back, and he went Punisher-like killing criminals afterwards. Prior to that case, he wasn't a killer, but he was pretty damaged mentally already from his childhood trauma, and years immersed in the criminal side of humanity.
doctorId
That story gets told in the movie too
TheGrubinator
Movie and comic both make it clear that Rorschach is also a raging bigot who views "the gays" as subhuman. Sex workers, too.
VanessaWhips
Gayforbae
Yikes.
SlyMrFox
The Comedian is dead.