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https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/21/politics/disney-florida-special-status/index.html
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/21/politics/disney-florida-special-status/index.html
RM641a
And in so doing he also passed along the costs of city services to tax payers, something Disney had been paying for all this time.
Huor
Fucking with the goose that laid the golden eggs to distract from ragingly anti-democratic re-districting. And it's working.
BootsDusty
trippingthelightfantastic
serenityfast
BootsDusty
Thelrishlnquistion
Well Disney, it sure was a great idea to donate to the GQP, wasn’t it?/s
Jarjarthejedi
Man, wouldn't it be nice if companies learned that giving cash to corrupt people for kickbacks can quickly come back to bite them?
Thelrishlnquistion
Would be nice yes.
somethingwentwrongwiththis
The right thing for all of the wrong reasons and without any thought.
procrastinatingagain
This will cost the counties billions.
knowallknownothing
I believe $165 million more per year the tax payers will have to come up with.
klaceo
2 Billions bonds to start.
amb1021
And while that county is Democratic, 175k voters there voted for him, well above his victory margin. Hope they enjoy losing thousands.
mardukkur
This would be instantly tossed on 1st amendment grounds if the Supreme Court wasn't packed with crooked wingnut hacks.
AndrewS816
Awesome, can't wait for FL & a few counties to foot the bill for Services! Well DONE, "small government" GQP/Republicans!
IllegalAlienFromOuterSpace
On the one hand Fuck Disney. On the other hand Fuck DeSantis. On the third hand Fuck Florida.
ObiHaiv
On the one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, if you've got three hands, you should see a doctor.
IllegalAlienFromOuterSpace
That's what the Russians living at Chernobyl said!
ObiHaiv
Da!
cbmech7
And here I am with only two hands to fuck like a sucker.
IllegalAlienFromOuterSpace
Yeah, things are getting out of hand
centauria13
But it might be the gripping hand! I hope the Moties didn’t escape!
19ElJefe59
Disney brings a lot of happiness and escapism to people. Can't say that about DeSantis. I don't see a moral equivalency here.
IllegalAlienFromOuterSpace
You forget the part where they filmed the live action Mulan in the same region where Uighurs are being held?
19ElJefe59
Are you a grievance collector?
IllegalAlienFromOuterSpace
No, but I like to remind assholes why they are assholes.
dmarting
Well I disagree with Republicans I am extremely wary of any pro Disney media. It seems like a lot of support for a shit company right now
Fairemont
It's less support for Disney, and more support for not doing something stupid.
ProppaGanda
I mean, I would love to see Disney bancrupt, they are evil too (not because they claim to be supporting LGBT people tho)
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ProppaGanda
I don't doubt that. Still, fuck Disney.
Isaacsalterego
They're doing it for the wrong reasons, but this is a GOOD thing, you all get that, right? Megacorps should not get to be governments.
SteveMND
I mean, it's obvious DeSantis has NO idea what he is doing, but this is likely to REALLY bite him in the ass, and not just with Disney. >
spilledpups
The democrats now have Disney to back the opposing candidate which is very powerful considering the amount of money and influence they have.
DaveSamsonite
Disney should just shut down for a few months, effective immediately. Cut off those sweet tourism America
DaveSamsonite
I typed “sweet tourist Ameros.”
SteveMND
< By doing this, hehas essentially created a "new" 25k-acre densely-built incorporated district for which Florida will now be responsible >
vintagebroad
Doesn’t mean he’ll take care of it
SteveMND
It's not like they can just board up the park and ignore it. "The dissolution of the special district would mean that Orange and Osceola >
SteveMND
< The dissolution of the special district would mean that Orange and Osceola counties take on the assets and liabilities of Reedy Creek."
SteveMND
< for; a LOT of things that the Disney corporation had been handling by itself over the last 60-odd years. Also: https://archive.ph/FZg7C
bluerazzgummy
But you’re forgetting one important thing. They owned da libs! So obviously it’s worth it ?
amb1021
Plus potentially cancel $1-2 BILLION in Disney debt. So current debt off their books and future costs off their books.
ibrokemyselflmao
Too bad disney won't take advantage of it and let FL taxpayers know that non residents appreciate them picking up the tab for lower costs
exbenedict
Disney stopped supporting desantis and stopped donating 3- 4 weeks ago….coincidence? I think not
KidneyBeene
Lol reddit is now mad because the mouse has to pay taxes
Gryphonosiris
Either goose step with the GQP or they will try to destroy you.
RedCamaro
Disney: "ok we are just gonna go to another state". Florida: ".....fuck."
DanaConti5
They’re not leaving…
BorkBorkasson
I mean, they could, but moving all the Disney parks in Florida would be a huge and ridiculously expensive undertaking. It's massive.
RedCamaro
just abandon the parks. saves on cost in the end.
bundleofwoodensticks
I’m a petty man. I’d do it.
SealandIsARealCountry
It would be miles cheaper to just back a different horse
BigSecksi
^^^THIS, Disney will just throw its money behind Dems in every Florida race.
KatieVick
This is terrible for the residents of Orange and Osceola county. They have to take over the special district. Expecting 20% tax increase.
ThatRaccoonGuy
Disney shouldn't HAVE a special status though. It sucks that gay rights is what it takes to get republicans to crack down on corporations.
TheRedCat13
Lol. Have fun with all of Disney’s debt Florida.
CraftyGiant
Well that's not going to go well.
wobblecopterrrr
Pfft, I knew that dude was evil, didn’t realize he was that fucking stupid though..
KeithSvenson
i'm confused... how is taking disney down a peg considered "evil"?
wobblecopterrrr
His motivations are, and pretty much every other action he has used his power as a representative for. I’m not going to explain, don’t ask.
Nobody7713
It's not. The reason he's doing it, because they spoke out against his homophobia, is evil.
onlyhalfghost
And the execution's incompetence would be mind-boggling were it not a Republican attempting it
Krossis
The way he's doing it, hurts the Florididian who now have to pay higher taxes
KeithSvenson
why would floridians have to pay higher taxes?
kingofbass40
Because with the RCID, the two counties WDW is in weren't stuck with paying taxes for building the roads, utilities, and other things 1/2
kingofbass40
that came with making the area suitable. Without the RCID, every new road, new building at WDW, new anything, will be paid by taxpayer, 2/3
Thunda17
I know that they must now pay for the park’s emergency services at the very least
thisismysociallife
oh number one rule dont fuck with the house of mouse. you can bet on some serious repercussions for DeSantis
Nobody7713
I doubt the members who voted for that measure are getting their Disney checks in the mail next campaign season
Jarjarthejedi
I really hope so. Disney vs. DeSantis.
igoslow
I hope so.
Animorphs
Seriously. I can’t imagine how much power and influence fucking Disney has.
thisismysociallife
Disney is the 5th largest media company in the world. not to mention Florida's number one job maker.
paladindansesgirlfriend
I am picturing their lawyers right now - oooooh boy!
TheSpleen
Well, Republicans just raised a lot of people's taxes with this nonsense.
AzaellexTytalus
But they’ll just blame their enemies and their constituents don’t fact check.
moreSaucePlease
Policies don’t matter as long as they own the libs
shawnemack
And decimated the tourism industry
NikklasViktorMcKnight12
i thought this meant Disney pays more taxes people pay lower taxes!
MadamPuddifoot
Estimated that every single taxpayer in orange and Osceola will pay about 2k more a year.
amb1021
You thought very, very wrong.
StoppedLurkingtoDownvote
The surrounding counties and cities will have to take over police, fire, roads, etc. Orange County is estimated to need an extra $163m/yr.
StoppedLurkingtoDownvote
Per Miami Herald: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article260593552.html
SirBagels
Heard they also have to take on a bunch of debt in the form of bonds or something too... Rip Florida's economy.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Your use of the word "people" likely differs from theirs.
SteveMND
https://archive.ph/FZg7C
MrNecrophile
My god that is not a mobile website.
SteveMND
My bad; I misread the URL and initially thought it was too long for Imgur; here's the original link instead: >
SteveMND
< https://insidethemagic.net/2022/04/taxpayers-billions-desantis-disney-battle-ld1
MrNecrophile
Legend, thank you.
fformulaa
For people that don't want to click the link:
deadsmurfsryumy
Time to change residencies
six2midnight
The bigger question is: why do they have this status in the first place?
bril350
Cause they brought ALOT of tourists and their money.
failsafe
CraftyGiant
Because it means they control their own repair and building permitting process, so they handle their own roads, sewer, power, etc.
CraftyGiant
Now that cost is on Florida taxpayers and it's a HUGE bill.
Jarjarthejedi
tl;dr - Because Disney spent a lot of time, energy, and money acquiring it so they could have full autonomy.
Jarjarthejedi
https://sites.google.com/site/theoriginalepcot/project-vs-reality/the-reedy-creek-improvement-district
amb1021
Because they bought a huge piece of swamp they were the only party willing to develop. There are tons of explainers out about all this.
copperdomebodhi
Disagree. Bigger question is why "constitutional conservatives" support using govt power to punish people for criticizing the government.
MelodyLightfoot
This isn't even about criticism though it's about the fact Disney stopped giving him money.
MickeyCallahan
Same thing, according to our Supreme Court, I guess.
Dannyalcatraz
ESPECIALLY since they fought so hard for corporations to have free speech rights like real humans.
Dannyalcatraz
Hmmmm…this could be a chance to use something the “conservatives” hailed to fight against something else they’re championing. DeSantis is
Dannyalcatraz
using the power of the government to suppress free speech- definitely a Constitutional issue.
crapybarra
Fuck both Disney and DeSantis. I hope they tear each other apart.
ILikeToCallItLostWages
100% this
boxbackknitties
I came here to make this comment. ^^^
deadlywolf04
2 billion in debt/cost defaulted from Disney to tax payers, and in 2 years Disney can get the land back.
pfunk81
Yes. Disney is to the US what Rome is to Italy, a self-governing corporation. And Desantis is a festering boil on Hrumps sphincter.
pfunk81
I meant autonomous state... Rome is not a corporation...
crapybarra
While I'm here motherfuck Amazon and their social media goons too. Before anyone jumps in to point out the obvious: i.imgur.com/tFRqZG5.jpg
crapybarra
In case people are having issues bring the picture up
Svartlebee
Isn't there a very real Russian boycott going on right now because we have identified all Russian products fund the Kremlin war chest.
crapybarra
What? Are you responding in the right thread?
Svartlebee
Well, I thought individuals have no impact on how their money is spent and shouldn't stop evil multinationals gaining money.
crapybarra
Wait sonuoure on the side of billion dollar multinational corporations or are you siding with apathy?
19ElJefe59
Thanks, we couldn't get by without a nihilist's perspective.
crapybarra
TheLaughingMagician
I think you can say fuck Disney and not be a nihilist. It's an entirely reasonable position.
19ElJefe59
You come across as so cynical and judgmental that you would deny people their harmless fun. Do you sit on a spike?
TheLaughingMagician
It's a shitty company with shitty business practices. Fuck em. They're trying to own everything.
constellanation5
This is just a distraction from his redistricting bullshit.. which is objectively worse that this.
EveryBodyLovesMe
Don’t worry. That passed also
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
this. his redistricting would cause florida to lose 3 blue and gain 4 red seats iirc
DakotaWolf
Why is he even allowed to draw the districts? It's a blatant conflict of interest and anyone could argue it.
grandestoptimist
the people who would’ve argued against it weren’t elected, because Florida is terrible.
mardukkur
Not sure using the power of the government to punish businesses who don't toe your political line isn't worse than partisan gerrymandering.
mardukkur
Gerrymandering is certainly bad but this is pure authoritarian abuse of power.
MarkRavingMad
In principle, it's not. In terms of the consequences, It is, if only because doing B is only going to empower them to do more of A.
MarkRavingMad
Then again, it's not like B isn't gonna contribute to A either so, who the fuck even knows anymore with this fascist bullshit.
INeverWaitForIt
Depends, really. Disney packing up and moving would devastate the Florida economy, which is already being mismanaged by republicans. Worst
lemonstein
Agree, to a degree. But also difficult to pack up several theme parks and everything that's connected with it. Plus if that keeps happening
lemonstein
there will soon really be 2 Opposing, rather than 1 United, States of America (not that it's not already halfway there).
INeverWaitForIt
case scenario, the state simply collapses into a shithole state, like the last republican experiment. And the one before that.
sharikov
Would it kill Disney to divert a teeny tiny percentage of its mind-boggling profits into the campaign wallets of his opponents?
LupusLilium
I imagine with Disney money, one could cause him to be inflicited with a quick acting cancer.
sharikov
Like, I don't like the idea either, but at this point I'll take a "benevolent" (or at least, not self-harming) corporation over fascism.
lemonstein
Slippery slope. I get the sentiment though. The whole system is fucked imho. You guys need more parties and the whole world needs
lemonstein
preferential voting.
SwiftyGuy
Get money completely out of politics. All of it. No real such thing as “benevolent corporations”
sharikov
It's just kicking the can down the road, obviously. But is theocratic fash running the country better? And I bet Putin is praying for 2024.
casualgenderquestion2718
yeah great idea you’re the first to think of it now tell me - how do you expect that to happen without playing the game first?? we have 1
casualgenderquestion2718
senator who doesnt take superpac money. 1.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
I am o with taking Disney special status away, they have too much power as a company
dunkum09
Yep. its funny to see it framed as "Republicans interfering with business"
ontarioOT
Both things can be (are) true.
dunkum09
technically, but you could argue that Disney shouldn't have had that status in the first place. from either a Leftist or Libertarian angle
mardukkur
Whether they should have or not, the state is abusing its power and violating the 1st amendment by targeting Disney for their speech.
dunkum09
that's a solid point, I wonder if Disney could win a lawsuit based on it. it seems like there should be enough evidence for it.
Jarjarthejedi
I mean, yeah, absolutely. But motives still do matter. A dude fixing a problem purely because he wants to hurt people is still a bad guy,
Jarjarthejedi
even if he's fixing a problem. And there are all sorts of issues that are going to come out of this that have the potential to hurt a lot of
dunkum09
oh absolutely. DeSantis is god-awful; so is Disney, but slightly less so in this case.
ontarioOT
Fair enough - I'm not that familiar with what it entails, but I'd wager the special status was put in place to entice Disney to build there.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
It was and grew into a power grab over the years because they make an insane amount of money
ontarioOT
I've done some further reading - looks like it was done to implement infrastructure for the park without costing the taxpayers, but if this>
dunkum09
seems like that result should be avoidable, but I admit I don't know enough about the specifics to say for sure.
ontarioOT
goes through, taxpayers would be on the hook for about a billion dollars of debt.