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kamikazehindenburg
The net neutrality regulations from 2015 were also passed with a 3-2 vote. Just FYI.
Cereaza
I mean. Yes, but it was literally live streamed. Hardly a closed room.
Oneirohero
*Plutocracy (Governed by the Rich and Wealthy)
Shendorion
. . . by an unelected official, appointed by a man who wasn't elected by popular vote.
Efreeti
The US is not a democracy, it's a republic. You have a broken two-party system and a disconnect between local (state) and federal government
ShaneArg
I mean we are a republic....
gnargnar99
**Ogliarchy
ShaneArg
A republic is where a supreme power is held by the people and their elective reps. And has an elected president, thats the definition.
FluffyKittyLover
I love that people who reaaaaally hate Trump are saying they wish the public could vote on net neutrality. Like do you people not learn?
Traja01
It's so god damn true it hurts.
TaylorH95
We... We don't live in a democracy tho.
gnargnar99
**Plutocracy
TaylorH95
I mean. I'm upset about the NN thing. But we were to have put more pressure on our elected representatives.
CharlesMcKinley
I think we need to start taking out politicians, ceos, and the federal reserve. It's not gonna do it by itself and bitching days are over.
Omega443
You can thank Trump voters for this, they are 100% responsible for this disaster.
pearistotle
Remember, remember, the 14th of December
OverlordEd
National FCC Treason day
chiefs86
Did you die yet from lack of Net Neutrality?
dartboardblue
You mean a Constitutional Republic...
gnargnar99
**Plutocracy
Tomcruiser
FIGHT THIS SHIT, NEVER STOP FIGHTING.
euphoriamint
fix gerrymandering, then fix the government
Datdudez
We live in a representative republic though....not a democracy.
gnargnar99
**ogliarchy
Roarschach
We live in a democratic republic. I'm on your side, just needed to clarify.
gnargnar99
**ogliarchy
iwilleatallyourbeans
Why haven't we fucking revolted already? We have multiple damn good reasons for it!
chiefs86
So, a year and a half later, has it been worth revolting over?
bradthegeek
carlofonovs
Bruh
Stevendavalley
It is a healthy democracy when everyone shows up to vote. This is what happens when you sit out as a "protest vote",
Stevendavalley
Or throw your vote away on a dead gorilla. Hopefully these lessons are being learned and remembered.
Huhwhatcrazy
Could be healthier. Everyone scared of change
FaceAaA
Neither candidate was, is, or will ever be worth a vote. I'm not voting for one sack of shit over another. Many people feel the same way. .1
FaceAaA
And saying that people are required to vote, even if none of the cadidates are worthy of the position is asinine. 2
Stevendavalley
You're right. Many people feel the same. In retrospect, my comment does have a snarky, condescending tone, and for that I apologise.
Stevendavalley
I wish the voice that those of you who feel like this would emerge. It's most likely a voice many like myself would follow.
FluffyKittyLover
"A healthy democracy is when people vote the way I want"
dogmatix
From the outside looking in, America's political systems seem pretty fucked up.
Huhwhatcrazy
Very old-fashioned, where the President lost by 3,000,000 votes
DecemberRain18
from the inside looking in, it is pretty fucked up
SnelsonMandela
It doesn't help when voter turnout is low. It's important to be educated and to voice your opinion with a vote.
Lolzorski
America is an oligarchy. It just takes time for most of them to realise it.
6reut
Pretty ugly, but still a lot better than other places
dogmatix
Seems like it works nicely for those with lotsa money
SecondSince
Better than some places. Not better than a lot of them. Your 2 party system enforces tribalism, which is bad.
6reut
My 2 party system?? I am not even from there nor living there. Just judging from the high horse fed by propaganda
WashingtonQuarter
Actually a two or three party system forces very broad based parties that appeal to wide swathes of the population. Tribal politics like 1/
WashingtonQuarter
is much more common in parliamentary systems because smaller, more narrowly focused parties are able to form and win seats.
Traja01
Let me be clear about this: the system is fine. It's amazing, in fact. The voters, well, they're another story.
PoliticalWanderer
System desperately needs reform, voters need to get a clue
Traja01
I dunno if I trust any of our political leaders to undertake reform with pure intentions. Gerrymandering and the electoral college maybe.
Lythar
To be fair, our first president outright told us that political parties would be a terrible idea.
Swordrager
It's too early to call that. A healthy democracy isn't one where the will of the people exactly rules every decision. That's bloated. A 1/
Swordrager
healthy democracy is one where there are small commissions able to make small decisions, and then there are ways for the people to correct
Swordrager
bad decisions. We're about to get into that.
oseo
The will of the people should generally be reflected in the decision & when 82% of people disagree with getting rid of NN,something is wrong
WashingtonQuarter
This is how our country works. Have you never supported a lawsuit that overturned a law that you support? Do you oppose all EPA regulations?
Stockyhome
So you think you have a healthy democracy? Go on...
WashingtonQuarter
We do. Like or dislike the elected officials we have, they were freely and fairly elected. The fault lies with us, the voters.
nonamejanie
This is not a democracy anymore. Won’t be as long as there are parties and no term limits for congress.
lucillethelooseseal
Never was a democracy. We live in a Federal Republic. Biiiig difference. If you can't google the difference it I'd be happy to explain
Traja01
No term limits for Congress is fine. Political association is constitutionally protected. We need better solutions.
tresfab333
I have no idea why people have settled on term limits as the panacea for our present lack of democratic accountability - if anything, /1
tresfab333
requiring that politicians be constantly preparing for their next job will make them even MORE susceptible to corporate/lobbyist /2
tresfab333
influence. The key is a complete overhaul of money in politics, including overturning Citizens United and public financing for elections. /3
OverlordEd
We could always bring put the guillotine and do what the french did
PunishMentor
The courts will decide, for whatever it's worth. That's all this means.
Traja01
The standard of review is not favorable. Don't expect a victory in the Courts.
alyx680
I agree with all but the democracy part... we're a republic here in the U.S.
gnargnar99
**ogliarchy
RickMorty
I vote we reboot the government, with allll elected officials. Popular vote only
superbob201
The only reason we got NN in the first place was unelected bureaucrats. Legislation would be better, but is usually way too slow.
GasBandit
Direct popular vote has its problems too. It becomes two wolves and a sheep voting on the dinner menu.
Satherian
We need a mix of Electoral and Popular
T3NM1DG3TS
BORN AGAIN IN BLOOD AND FIRE!
PeterTurboIronCage
Unfortunately, most people are uninformed about most issues, and will do a poor job in our technocratic world. I include myself in that.
EADimgur
The main problem behind a strictly Popular Vote system is the ironically paradoxical nature of it. If an issue is split into option A or B 1
EADimgur
then it's fine, but what if its options A-Z? Then a group can win with as little as 4% of the votes, leaving the other 96% (the majority) 2
EADimgur
left hanging high and dry. Popular Votes only work on small, local scales, not on large national scales. 3/3
unclemeat70
These are not elected officials. Bureaucrats
TheBlackWindHowls
I think that's what he's saying: that political appointments are done away with, and that all officials have to be voted into position.
RickMorty
Yes
LordFlashFire777
Apparently, you haven’t learned enough to understand how crucial the electoral college is. Maybe you want California to just decide for you?
illegalacorn
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS
iamnotamerryman
That's... That's exactly how it works.
HieronymousFlex
As a california, yeah sure that sounds cool. :) /s
SciGuy
How many people do you think live in California? EC points are patially bases on population, anyway.
VikingInOz
America should invade America and help them become a democracy.
ConcernedPansexual
But do we have oil?
xrufus7x
Yes we do.
Garouleloup
We do have nuclear weapons, reason enough to invade yeah?
dragonherder
I think we need to have it be equal representation of all political parties instead of any popular vote or electoral vote.
TheAsterite
So mob rule? As a minority, no thanks
VerticalInfinity
Does the current Electoral college support your minority? It seems that minorities have been lessened thru gerrymandering.
SciGuy
The electoral college has nothing to do with gerrymandering. Two separate issues.
illegalacorn
That's why we have the judiciary though
Psile
It would take years to accomplish anything. Literal 24/7 election cycle. I get what you're saying, but it isn't practical.
VirginSurgeon
That’s called a revolution and that’s why we have a 2nd amendment
vpock
You mean like an armed revolution?
overlordchris666
You mean Firsr Amendment, that's why it's first. 2nd Amendment protects the 1st, when it gets oppressed by force.
irlborat
This. People don't seem to understand that the use of violence is only am extreme last resort, anyother time makes you look bad
SquidJesus
Been saying this for a while. Not sure if I'm the only one serious about it though, or if most will cancel because they like their lives.
T3NM1DG3TS
Meh, dying doesn’t scare me all that much
SquidJesus
Then go to a shooting range and practice.
T3NM1DG3TS
Already do in my free time
ConcernedPansexual
I'm always down for a little revolution and redistribution
SquidJesus
I say we kill the corrupt and use their money to pay off our debts to China.
ConcernedPansexual
What are we going to do with the rest of the trillions of dollars?
AngryGroundhog
When a political party has full control of Washington, they show you who they really care about. Take note, American voters.
mikeandrews2009
Yes, they care about an open internet free from government interference like a whole...two years ago!
Metzr
But do the typical Trump voters even acknowledge what this issue is about or what's at stake? Won't they just support him/GOP regardless?
JKJM
The problem is the American people are too stupid to vote properly. As in, in an educated thought out manner. Not
Hybris51129
We saw it with ACA and we saw it again with NN. We need to change out all of congress.
KeeleonOhms
Whose supposed to take note? Most republicans dont even know what net neutrality is. Most democrats dont know what it is either.
riceronijones360
So none of us.
venslor
But wait, which party has full control right now? *sarcasm*
penguinfiction
The communists -.- only they limit freedom and destroy the markets that make America great... *sarcasm*
FallingStar7669
I would not be surprised if, in 4 years, the Republicans blame all this shit on the Democrats... and their base eats it up.
CoBr2
4 years? I bet they blame it on them for the 2018 election
Trollhydra
It worked so well with the recession so why not?
Lukaznid
Europe here. Honest question. Why in the world doesn't your government make a referendum about these sorts of serious things?
Bullheadbelly
That would require balls and a belief in something other than being subject to the un fettered greed we call the free market.
bluemeaniesarecoming
They don't give a fuck about the people and they're becoming more and more brazen about how they show it.
ketchupwizard
Because the people who care, arent in government
bobziIIa
The people in power care, just not about the same thing as 99% of the population.
ThundrDownunder
America is stupid like that. Like the Britain of the EU. But more so.
Psile
If a party has control of govt' they can pass maybe one piece of real legislation before it shifts back over. GOP is using their turn to /1
SpamYarBlockers
I love how clear you made it that US government is really just a ridiculously slow turn based rpg where the story never goes anywhere
RelativeVelocity
It's the truest metaphor there could ever be. If I could only walk in and summon Knights of the round, we could start over
Zyrixion
*Technically* we could... :thinking:
Psile
pass a massive debt increase so they can slash social programs, and they oppose NN anyway. Dems typically support NN but they used their /2
Psile
last turn to pass something resembling healthcare reform. 6/8 years are spent in gridlock where we are lucky if we can keep our goddamn /3
Psile
govt running the entire time. 2 years after pres election when the same party usually has a legislative majority is the only time /4
463527818
Same problem as with Brexit: average voter doesn’t understand the problem well enough to make an informed decision. I agree having 5 //
463527818
People making the decision is ludicrous, but I’m not sure the citizens understand the technicalities of the issue properly, and many //
463527818
Would subscribe to the fallacious ‘reduced legislation is good / might equate to a tax break’ line of thinking
FinestOneDotA
And unfortunately media bias makes it hard for people to be informed properly. (Fox news) *cough*
Lukaznid
But... But... I mean, you're literally being forced into paying for what is a modern day right, that's like being sold fresh water.
adadsupreme
It’s not over guys. This will be fought in court.
CongratsYouAreHereNow
we need to start calling this what it is. corporate run media, and censorship. because you know that's what will happen
ColonPounder
And if the court's fail, that's what firearms are for.
TheDreadPirateNeckbeard
Aryn240
How, exactly? What grounds? Not arguing or anything, just curious
LordOfThePenguin
The FCCs rules say they can’t change hem arbitrarily and they are required to take the people’s wants into account. Lots of lawsuits coming.
Akumaka
A federal court can rule it a violation of constitutional rights or something similar.
Traja01
If you're honestly curious, they have very few grounds. It is a longer than long-shot. The best chance they have is arguing the comment
Traja01
period was ineffective because of the fraudulent submissions, but that's really, really weak. The lawsuits are for posturing.
Traja01
Don't get me wrong, I'm furious about this decision, but we have to be objective about this if we want to beat it. Lawsuits will fail.
Janusha
Yes.... Yes its over. Its gone. Maybe you can appreciate how powerless the population is to corporate oppression.
RogueArt
It's not possible for the court to be bribed as well by a multi-billion dollar megacorporation, right?
SwiftBlackWolf
Amazon, Microsoft, and Starbucks have already allied with this lawsuit. Company money doesn't all come from one spot.
Treefur
Not half as much as you think. The judicial branch is the real battle for this issue, not the FCC deciding they want to pursue it.
Traja01
Of course it's possible, it's just insanely unlikely, thanks to lifetime tenure. Practically impossible to bribe the appeals courts.
Radenium
You had a chance to stop it. If you voted Trump, you voted for this. You had your chance and blew it.
warriorofdiscord
You can't faithfully make that claim. Voters aren't responsible for every single action of their vote-e.
snarflex
For Pete's sake, people act like Trump was the first to put Pai into power. That was Obama.
Threewisemen
Yeah, this same shit happened with Obama only it wasn't pushed through. Obama was buddy buddy with Telecom lobbyists also.
VirginSurgeon
That’s a pretty broad accusation
Radenium
If by broad you mean correct, then yes. IIRC Trump's campaign stance was even that he was against it, so everyone knew this was coming
VirginSurgeon
I didn’t vote for trump but I think it’s a fallacy to say “if you voted for trump, you voted for this”.
kray67
Rather simplistic view..
chrisdafish
Remember when everyone treated the election like a meme
Garouleloup
To be honest, Trump's the biggest meme lord i've ever seen, a true internet troll on the loose.
TheManInTheWall
To be fair its not something most people couldve expected
TheManInTheWall
Im referring to when people voted in Trump. They cpuld expect gross incompetence but probably not NN repeal
TheIronBull
I mean the guy said he'd talk to Bill Gates and get the internet shut down for certain people so this absolutely didn't come from no where.
oseo
Some people don't seem to realize the consequences of their vote.
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
I feel like people don't see that its very fucking possible the companies will actually compete and nothing really will change.
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
Elon musk will just come in and go "OPEN INTERNET FOR ALL" And all the ISPs" that are being fucky get fucked
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
Of course not argueing that it cant happen.
Radenium
A lot of people shouldn't be allowed to vote precisely because they don't know what they fuck they are doing.
lucillethelooseseal
So how would that be popular vote then? You guys are upset that we don't have popular vote, yet you aim to exclude people "less than you"
RandomHaggis
The comment you are replying to never stated they wanted popular vote. They are saying you shouldn't be allowed to vote unless you are (1/2)
RandomHaggis
Educated on the matter.(2/2)
lucillethelooseseal
yet say we are "Stronger Together" (if we like you)
oseo
When you register to vote, there should be some kind of mandatory civics class.
oseo
Downvotes... I forgot we're living in an anti-intellectual society these days...
HalfOpenSkies
For a”intellectual” you’re rather dim to not recall the history of voting exams.
StupidEcho
Nah mate you just have a douchey tone.
Radenium
They did vote Trump after all, and by extension, they voted for this.
Squirrelys
The logic of your thinking validates the 5 person FCC vote: an elite deciding for the unworthy/uneducated.
IlikeOverExplaningJokes
This has been coming on since the Obama administration tho....
IlikeOverExplaningJokes
Lmao!
FunFax
No... This is directly repealing a law passed under the Obama administration.
bosskcradossk
It was the Obama era regulations that just got taken down... dumb
IlikeOverExplaningJokes
imgur acting like I'm blaming Obama. the net neutrality fight has been going on longer then this term. But right it must be trumps fault.
kray67
wHaT aRe YoU sAyInG aBoUt OuR HoLy LoRd AnD sAiNt ObAmA??????????!!!!!!
IlikeOverExplaningJokes
No shit! Lol
KingoftheCommentLurkers
I mean... Yeah kinda. You see him talking out against this?
inyourheadunderyourskin
Wrong this fight has been going on for many years understand Obama the FCC lost power and ability to function
bosskcradossk
That is almost a sentence
inyourheadunderyourskin
Trump basher who doesn't understand politics blaming blindly. You sound like an insulant child but all demo think the same, not for yourselv
Patches3000
“Insulant”
inyourheadunderyourskin
Ever heard of auto correct or is that beyond your capacity?
Patches3000
Please remind us all how much smarter you are than us. Lay down the knowledge that only you are capable of understanding
shenanighans
Wait is that a ratio of 3:2 or literally 5 people voted
EspressoTheWolf
5 people voted. 3 people decided what is best for 323 million.
EspressoTheWolf
(Posted too early, oops.) 'What's best' is apparently companies get total control.
VrryBurntpork
5 people, none of whom are elected officials.
shenanighans
Wow. Just wow
shenanighans
Old queen liz not looking too daft now is she
RandomHorribleDumbSobStory
Decision has to be fought in court now
PureUnadulteratedBait
It affects everyone so should be voted on by everyone. Unfortunately the FCC is full of out-of-touch money-hungry megacunts
Memaleph
What I don't get is why all the effort were concentrated on one of them, and not the two others.
eroso
They are irrelevant. Ajit Pai made plans, his 2 republican coworkers just followed the plan
CrocodileDunphy
Yes
Huhwhatcrazy
5 people, 3 Republicans paid for and 2 Democrats who care about freedom
confanity
Three Republicans voted to kill the internet so that special interests could get richer. Two Democrats voted to save it. A common pattern.
EADimgur
I think 2 people abstained
HatShenanigans
5 voters also I'm you featuring headwear
gewalt
literally 4 people voted and the chairman broke the tie
SunderedShadow
only 5 people on the board.
Cheesecakecrush
Welcome to delegation of congressional authority to unelected agencies.
logicboy7
Both.
Ginocide
You are technically correct; the best kind of correct.
TheCountOfMonteCristos
I was going to upvote him and comment the same... Now you too must have an upvote and I am too late... Damn you. Happy Festivus.
Occasionalfunnycomment
I really wanted to upvote your comment but I didn't pay the upvote package.
LousyAstroPhotography
Who gets the comment package without the up vote package addon?
throwyourhandsintheair
I think someone signed me up because I comment but don't get upvotes.
rbudrick
Peasants.
MaybeADoctor
Upvoted it for you from Canada: Land of the Free
Upvooote
Internet
throwyourhandsintheair
And healthcare
DevonGronka
The commission has 5 people on it. 3 of them are crap people. So there you go.
LangdaaTyaagi
Red caps
TulaTula
Read that as crab people.
SuperPantsWasTaken
The plot thickens!
counterintel
Look like crabs, talks like people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV5wmDhzgY8
Barbarian90001
@OP Internet worked fine before NN in 2015. Economic illiterate Leftist like you will still be fine after, except your mental illnesses.
shinydev
Yeah, but without our help who is going to help you with yours?
ForgotMyOtherAcct
NN worked fine when nobody tried to test it. Comcast tried, so it got legislated. Now it is gone, and everyone knows what they can do. So
ForgotMyOtherAcct
They will.
laton
3-2 ppl, not 3:2 ratio. Big difference
StonerCatJay
But 3-2 people is a 3:2 ratio. A 3:2 ratio isn't always 3-2 people though.
MrNaughtyPenguin
3-2 people is 1 people you goof
JaXm
If not for the word "People" instead of "person" I'd have thought you were actually being a shitbird. Instead I LOL'd.
AlmostAandOx3
I'm sad this comment is too deep to get the up votes it deserves
trashiestoftrashever
There should really be more representatives, it was all republicans, some of them working with the ISPs(aSHIT pie), against TWO democrats
KeeleonOhms
This shouldnt even be a partisan issue.
trashiestoftrashever
I’m not sure I quite understand, can you explain?
KeeleonOhms
Information should be fairly disseminated. Thats what the 1st amnendment is about. The internet is the primary form of communication in 2017
trashiestoftrashever
Ah, thank you for clarifying
HydrochloricKitten
5 people sit on the board of the FCC. Usually this isn't too much of a problem, even though it's highly politicized.
lebrewski
Just want to point out that 5 people created NN in the first place. It goes both ways. Congress needs to assert themselves.
N0Juan
This is the problem with bureaucratic regulation in general. No checks and balances. Most of bloated government is unconstitutional.
Barbarian90001
I'm literally laughing at all the Triggered NN Neckbeard idiots today. "Waaah the worlds ending, oh internet still working" lol
izoli413365
You are aware that ISPs were caught doing what everyone is so upset about which is why NN got legislated to begin with, right?
izoli413365
If they fought to do so before, why would we think they wont when the red carpet is laid out for them?
NocturnalGreed
You obviously have no idea about the protection a title II classification offered consumers.
NocturnalGreed
Imagine if your electric company throttled your max usage every friday because people who payed $100 a month got your wattage.
Mumalot
I'm mostly pissed off because "Corruption won" today. The Yes votes were bribed... "land of the free", only if you're rich.
TheBlackWindHowls
Literally 5 people, split along party lines. Republican party platform is against net neutrality; Democrat platform is for it.
justafreaknusernamejeezus
Oddly enough, polls show the majority of ppl that identify as GOP voters are in favor of net neutrality if they have an opinion on it
blarghl
that doesn't make it different though, a lot of the GOP policies are like that.
danishjuggler21
If Trump came out against it, most of them would fall in line like the mindless sheep they are.
FirstStepsIntoPoland
because it's not a party issue, but the media is going to play it like one and make it become a party issue after tribalism kicks in
FirstStepsIntoPoland
A lot of people don't even understand NN. If you tell them Republicans are against NN, Rep voters will be against it only because of that
ddot196
Oddly enough, I still believe more than half the population doesn’t even understand what NN is or what it represents. That’s the problem.
justafreaknusernamejeezus
Agreed, but the point I was trying to make is that these appointed officials don't give a sht what we avg ppl want. It's big bizness
Zyrixion
Ah yes, but now you've gotten to the part where the GOP doesn't care what the people want, only how their corporate overlords make money.
justafreaknusernamejeezus
Bingo
FirstStepsIntoPoland
the democrats are the party that appointed dipsht Ajit Pai to the FCC in the first place, remember that. not a party issue
TheBlackWindHowls
It's designed so that the President's party always has the majority on the FCC. Dems had FCC for Obama's term, so Pai accomplished nothing.
TheBlackWindHowls
So Obama *appointed* Ajit Pai, but the truth is that Mitch McConnell *chose* Pai for Republican choice, and Trump *chose* Pai for chair.
mosesfunk
It actually kind of is still. When he was appointed, he was only one of two Republicans; the repeal had to wait until there was a third.
TheBlackWindHowls
Let me explain how it works: POTUS *chooses* chairman, House/Senate Dems/Reps *choose* other four seats, POTUS *appoints* those choices.
FirstStepsIntoPoland
Only three commissioners can be on the same party. Obama could have appointed someone ELSE that wasn't a Democrat
TheBlackWindHowls
Then that would allow the next POTUS to ignore the Dems' choice for their commissioners.
Shingro
For "Not a party issue" the vote was strictly along party lines. Besides which didn't he show up on "The Daily Caller" (alt right) as well?
FirstStepsIntoPoland
1)I don't know any Republican that understands NN and is against it, and it wasn't part of the party platform. What I'm afraid of now is all
FirstStepsIntoPoland
2)the people that DONT understand NN. If we treat it like a party issue then it becomes one. Reps will be against it b/c their party is..
HellFireBeardMan
I bet if investigated those 3 scum bags have skeletons dipped in gold in their closets. Sad how land of the free has become a shit show.
Aibell125
To be fair, the Democratic Party is for anything the republicans are against and vice versa
TheBlackWindHowls
It might surprise you to learn the "open Internet" ideals that Obama strengthened into NN regulations started under Bush, in 2005.
PunishMentor
The courts will decide, for whatever it's worth. That's all this means.
CocaineMitchMcConnell
So we're screwed
UmmBent
Still believe eh?
SnarkyScience
Right, but the courts have repeatedly said: look it's whatever the FCC decides. If they're Title 1 or Title 2, treat them as that.
SciGuy
The FCC has procedures to follow that they ignored.
SnarkyScience
Eh. Prove it. There's a NY investigation, but good luck with that.
Traja01
The argument is that the comment period was ineffective because of the fraudulent comments. Longer than long-shot.
IATTM
So.... potentially 9 people?
Miztickow
Now this reminds me that Drumpf stole a Supreme Court seat and appointed a guy who said people should die if a corporation tells them to.
LordOfThePenguin
JustSomeEnglishGuy
.
Traja01
The Courts will uphold the FCC's decision. I'd say there's a 1 in 1,000 chance they rule against the FCC.
LurkerOfDarkness
Lately it seems more and more courts are filled with people of the same mindset as Trump and Pai.... So I just wanna wish you guys good luck
RogueArt
Maybe because people keep voting them in? The 2018 election is coming up and that's our chance to kick out these fuckers
magichal
Judges are appointed, and Republicans have been doing shady shit to stack the courts in their favor for a long time.
magichal
What happened to SCOTUS last year was just more of the same.
housev1l
3 Republicans:2 Democrats
Huhwhatcrazy
Corporate party versus party of the people
diskyzz
They really are both "corporate parties" as you put it. If you really can't see your own side for what they are you are just as bad
CT5555Fives
The parties themselves are both corporatist, just look at Hillary. Despite the fact that they are all part of those parties those two 1/2
CT5555Fives
supported the people. They are extraordinary in spite of the political party they are a part of, not because of.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
That's great and all, but this has become a partisan issue. Look at who supports it in the Senate.
UncomfortableTruths
Only one of the parties is also a god damn cult that's selling us out. But sure, go on about how bad Clinton is because reasons.
Shingro
Oh yeah, mildly centrist politician whose proposed tax plan during the elections included free community college. Totally corporatist.
JAKEdaSNAKE413
Literally 5 people
PolarHailStorm
...What the fuck?
LapisSea
Squagglewaggle
Which is funny, because it hurts...
bupthesnut
That's just fucked up in so many ways.
Klvngrdnr
ididntgetthejobatfruitloops
Wait what... Are you serious? Literally five people?
AtomicOldMan
Yes. Commissions like the FCC handle regulations in specialized areas and are composed of a handful of members who vote on said regulations.
LowkeyLegend
5 appointed officials... Not even elected
thefrompleman
I want to laugh but it's only to mask the crying
Vezwyx
Haha, I've been saying "I would be laughing if I wasn't crying" a lot lately
LegitimacyProject
DreadCarcass
And also the voting ratio
Kodaxmax
technically, as they are supposed to be representatives.
StrangeBard
5 UNELECTED people
Cornflakes91
you have to be pulling our collective legs
HmmICantThinkOfACleverUsernameRightNow
Sadly, no. The five people running the FCC made the decision all by themselves.
Gradwin
Arbitrarynamehere
Really it was tens of millions of votes in November of 2016 against their own interests.
Thatllbuffrightout
LordBaneoftheSith
As a jags fan he’s faring better this year.
Hoffdawg
Goddamn I love that gif
ComradeBushtail
The internet, sadly, will not buff right out
Semx11
It'll buffer more though
henrysnugglemonster
It’s more like a politburo.
PlutoLeviathan
gotanymoreofthemzubats
RandomLama7
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BusFarts
Yes 5 people representing the entire US population is a great idea.
ChuckWeiss
And remember the level of indirection from the voters here. 5 people appointed by a guy elected by people chosen by people we voted for.
Nalianna
5 people appointed by a president, appointed by an electoral committee, that we voted for?
SFMGifs
... do we vote for the electoral collage members?
Splatts
The party selects electorates. When you vote for president, you're basically voting for them & they in turn vote for president.
ChuckWeiss
5 <- president <- electoral college <- congress <- we the people. That assumes all 5 were put there by the president.
Nalianna
by A president. some were put there by trump, some by Obama, (and possibly others by previous presidents, i dont know how it works exactly)
Mxlespxles
Katamoran
Elon Musk, is that you?
Crowlands
Don't go too far, now. Just leave America. Come to Europe! We don't bankrupt you for getting sick, and Internet access is a right.
SpecialProjectY
We're getting internet from them.