Jan 24, 2023 3:09 PM
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secondtalon
Ah, the "Fuck Poor People" Bill.
WorkerLurker
Disgusting
JackingMeHoff
Slaves can eat or not eat from what I declare. I am your master, your owner, I control you. Fuck RepubliKKKlans
shmoogeeoogee
Damn can't even get government cheese
digitalagriculture
Thanks to the Third Way, many Democrats agree! We need to do a better job of electing progressive Democrats instead of diet Republicans.
ageek3000
This is the party that's always preaching about more freedoms, right?
Capnrory
and small government staying off your back
angrygardener
When social benefits are means tested it'll inevitably become a class war. The solution is usually just make it a public-wide benefit.
AutoFox
Wasn't American cheese literally advocated for by the government as food for people on benefits? Like, there were/are giant stockpiles.
vowofloudness
Yes, but I think it was really more about keeping the price of milk from crashing while feeding massive subsidies to the dairy industry.
AnxiaTeaDD
That list is just dripping with classist undertones. No fresh meat?!
kadaeux
*Put on monocle and top hat.* "Those... poors... don't deserve fresh meat. If they want it they can eat each other and decrease the surplus.
n0n53n53
There's a a couple of ways of getting rid of poor people. Increase pay and access to assistance so everyone can survive, or starve them 1/
so they either die, or commit crimes to survive allowing you to stock up your for-profit prisons. Which one will the Government choose? Hmm
itsD602
Next proposal will be expanding SNAP for ammunition and gas burners.
They want to tell them what kind of beans they can buy? Give people the freedom to buy whatever food they want.
jammer909
What do you mean "no american cheese"? Feeding poor people was the whole point of it's creation.
ndusr
Wtf? Definitely the party that gets off on telling ppl how to live (without doing the homework of understanding)
EggFooYung
LOL, whole wheat bread, brown rice, and wheat pasta tend to cost more. But srsly, what prompted these specific idiot-brain rules?
DoricGrockler
I thought American cheese already wasn't covered by Food Stamps and the like. It's not cheese; it's a cheese food product.
IndigoThursday
Cheese -food! you're not supposed to eat it, you're supposed to feed it to the cheese ?
obviouslyrob
The only restrictions are on prepared hot food (including restaurants), and alcohol. Everything else is free game.
Zzonk
whole wheat stuff would be beneficial for health, but that no fresh meat directive is a huge mistake.
Predicto
Whole wheat would be more expensive. People on SNAP are just trying to get by.
Sunshinedust7
Whole wheat is not beneficial for everybody. If someone has Celiac it could put them in the hospital.
ChimeraOfFury
white bread also has gluten though. so while celiac is its own issue, that is not the issue here.
whitebbwolf
ah yes. those "christian >values<" at work /s
DrMephistoFromSouthParkColorado
none of these things really make sense but chili beans? chili is like one of the most budget friendly meals you can do
dazergolf
next: "ration stamp" introduced '39 in germany? nah, sry, it's already worse
iputthefiresout
You're poor, therefore you don't deserve food with taste
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
"No baked beans". Like why give them a great and extremely cheap source of nutrients?
LendLeaseIdentity
I was just in hospital. Cardio restricted meal (no fat, no salt, no flavor) cost more than you would believe. I finally rebelled 1/
(yes really, I threw a tamper tantrum), they pulled me off cardio restricted, tested me, decided I could leave the hospital. I'm now 2/
Super weak and trying to recover. American healthcare, everyone.
sfrinlan
To be fair, you really do have to actively manage your own care. They've got boxes to tick.
I mean that in a "Good job" way, but I don't think it came out right
graehall
From others who have commented on it, apparently this is like tailor made to target hispanic folk. It's horrible, cruel, AND racist
It's not though. It's the WIC list for the state https://time.com/6249096/iowa-bill-threatens-snap/ doesn't mean it makes sense necessarily
and what makes us believe that the WIC list wasn't racially targeted when it was made?
I mean... what can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. It's another federal program
Sure. my point was that smth being a federal program or guideline is not necessarily mutually exclusive with it being racially motivated
https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/frequently-asked-questions
Clarysage
I could see the first few as trying to get people to eat healthier (I don't think the should be forced, personally), but no fresh meat? I-
-thought processed meat is way worse, is there some pseudo-reasoning for that other than hating the poor?
MisterBulldops
The Standard American Diet has way too much meat consumption and doesn't need to be subsidized. This is to encourage alternative proteins.
That makes sense, but I hope they'll at least give people advice on what the alternatives are. I don't eat meat myself but I wouldn't want-
-that choice to be forced on me.
I already commented on how classist this shit is. I was also thinking about one of my kids has a sensitivity to gluten. And how there are
ppl who do require special diets. I’m pretty sure all wheat grains contain gluten. But of course the GOP dosnt fkn care.
rubypilgrim
this. Why are we even having this conversation? Just fucking FEED PEOPLE GOOD FOOD. We have it. We have the ability to let people choose.-
I pay taxes, and I am fine with those taxes being spent on making sure people have healthy, nutritious food in a nation that can afford-
billionaires. If we can't afford to feed people, then we can't afford billionaires. Math checks out.
So do "white breads." It's just wheat flour that's been processed. Dietary restr. and sensitivities are just a whole problem on their own.
trippingthelightfantastic
Meanwhile
Nickelbackfat
Good! More of this, please!
Bolkstoff
Wow, the tax-exempt scam of running a church wasn't enough for them, they needed to scam Covid relief as well.
ALLCAPSROCK
it is the republican "christian" thing to do, gawd bless... with a cleansing fire!!!
DotcoreJetkill
No american cheese? What's next, no French whiskey?
lxix
Just wait until you discover that "american cheese" isn't really american. *laughs manically in Canadian*
Jimmytheeel
I see what you did there
nclu
tbf, Brenne is good
MechKelly
Isn't american cheese cheaper than most others?
saintbrun
It depends. Generic individually wrapped slices? Yes. Kraft singles? Not necessarily.
Yoganmahew
No Russian chocolate?
dmjalund
nah, American chocolate is worse
JAFIOI
You can have my Mexican maple syrup when you pry it from my cold dead hands!
SomethingOtherThanMyRealName
What about Scottish applesauce?!
OperationRustysBlanket
Are they known for being bad at that?
jonReremy9669
no, only worst-chester-shire sause! tahp-ah-dah-mahrnahng-tah-yah guvnna!
AtLeastImWearingUnderwear
British spices?
*stares in rest of the world*
Lovingimpaler
Cheeky
RajaBerms
I have had two French whisky recently and both quite good. La Piautre .
chromed
And in real life America makes some excellent cheeses. But it's a good joke anyway.
Subaruislife
Wisconsin don't fuck around
onlyhalfghost
American cheeses can be quite good. The cheese variety "American" is one of two things: plastic crap or a blend of cheddar and colby
yeahhedugit
AlmostScientist
Well when the food stamp users can’t buy food they’ll have to eat the rich
Wouldn't that be like eating shit tho?
rcndg
i feel like a lot of political issues in the united states could be resolved rn by arming the homeless. they have a 2A right too, after all.
TK421isAFK
Or fall back on the old "Oops, I forgot to scan a few things at the self check-out". Walmart will lose a few dollars, but oh fucking well.
FabergeBurrito
I heard that Walmart employees are being told to chill on shop lifter crackdown. They're not paid enough, or anyone else for that matter.
Oh, it's way beyond that. Self-checkout cashiers can intervene if they see someone blatantly ring up an item incorrectly, but no Walmart 1/2
employee, other than asset protection or contracted security guards, can touch a customer or shoplifter. They will be fired for it, or 2/3
even for accusing a person of stealing. The liability of compensating an employee that gets hurt while confronting a customer is far 3/4
mizmoose
The R myth that poor people use SNAP to buy steak & lobster because "someone saw" one person do it once. It's another Welfare Queen tale.
They're way more aggressive about catching welfare recipient fraud than they are about catching wage theft, that's for sure.
and welfare fraud is fairly uncommon. it's a lot harder now that there's a plastic card instead of slips of paper you can sell.
The fraud is more on the side of lying to qualify for more benefit. Claiming to be a single parent, for instance. Again, uncommon still.
Hammertulski
I got into it with some fuck here on Imgur who thinks that everyone uses SNAP to buy huge amounts of candy. It's a myth with legs, sadly.
Someone once talked about buying a huge cake on SNAP & some ass in line gave them crap. Person's kid had just finished chemo. MYOB, people.
frankly, if that's what people are doing, that's their business, right? If we want people to have a balanced diet, then we feed them one. -
for free. Because we generate so much wealth, we can afford to do that. Wealthy people do not need all the welfare we're giving them.
A balanced diet, btw, TASTES GOOD. It's appealing. It's not about demotivating people to work. People will work for a new sofa or to help-
save elephants. We shouldn't be working to eat or have a home, but to better our lives and our world.
spattr
Without the Senate or the Presidency, it's all a big circle jerk in the US House of Representatives. Nothing they pass will become law
Burke616
They're OK with that, because that lets them say the Democrats are obstructionist do-nothings and holding back progress.
mintyfreshismygod
Or states then use it as a roadmap to repress more quiely in their own state programs.
RizzleMeThis
It's the Iowa GOP, there's a real risk of it becoming law for them.
EBT is a federal program.
sleepinggreenidea
It's a federal program that's administered by the states. They can and do place restrictions on it.
Greenwaxy
But they’ll use it to make sound bytes to shore up their primary campaigns. And we all suffer.
It's Iowa's legislature, not Congress. They absolutely can put this into practice. They already do the same shit w/ their WIC aid.
LuminoZero
That sounds like a Iowa problem. Maybe they should burn their State Congress to the ground if they want to get the infection out.
saevon
maybe YOU should. Why the fuck would you want your country to have this ANYWHERE?
I can't vote in Iowa elections. What would you like me to do to fix THEM being fucking idiots?
secondtalon
Ah, the "Fuck Poor People" Bill.
WorkerLurker
Disgusting
JackingMeHoff
Slaves can eat or not eat from what I declare. I am your master, your owner, I control you. Fuck RepubliKKKlans
shmoogeeoogee
Damn can't even get government cheese
digitalagriculture
Thanks to the Third Way, many Democrats agree! We need to do a better job of electing progressive Democrats instead of diet Republicans.
ageek3000
This is the party that's always preaching about more freedoms, right?
Capnrory
and small government staying off your back
angrygardener
When social benefits are means tested it'll inevitably become a class war. The solution is usually just make it a public-wide benefit.
AutoFox
Wasn't American cheese literally advocated for by the government as food for people on benefits? Like, there were/are giant stockpiles.
vowofloudness
Yes, but I think it was really more about keeping the price of milk from crashing while feeding massive subsidies to the dairy industry.
AnxiaTeaDD
That list is just dripping with classist undertones. No fresh meat?!
kadaeux
*Put on monocle and top hat.* "Those... poors... don't deserve fresh meat. If they want it they can eat each other and decrease the surplus.
n0n53n53
There's a a couple of ways of getting rid of poor people. Increase pay and access to assistance so everyone can survive, or starve them 1/
n0n53n53
so they either die, or commit crimes to survive allowing you to stock up your for-profit prisons. Which one will the Government choose? Hmm
itsD602
Next proposal will be expanding SNAP for ammunition and gas burners.
ageek3000
They want to tell them what kind of beans they can buy? Give people the freedom to buy whatever food they want.
jammer909
What do you mean "no american cheese"? Feeding poor people was the whole point of it's creation.
ndusr
Wtf? Definitely the party that gets off on telling ppl how to live (without doing the homework of understanding)
EggFooYung
LOL, whole wheat bread, brown rice, and wheat pasta tend to cost more. But srsly, what prompted these specific idiot-brain rules?
DoricGrockler
I thought American cheese already wasn't covered by Food Stamps and the like. It's not cheese; it's a cheese food product.
IndigoThursday
Cheese -food! you're not supposed to eat it, you're supposed to feed it to the cheese ?
obviouslyrob
The only restrictions are on prepared hot food (including restaurants), and alcohol. Everything else is free game.
Zzonk
whole wheat stuff would be beneficial for health, but that no fresh meat directive is a huge mistake.
Predicto
Whole wheat would be more expensive. People on SNAP are just trying to get by.
Sunshinedust7
Whole wheat is not beneficial for everybody. If someone has Celiac it could put them in the hospital.
ChimeraOfFury
white bread also has gluten though. so while celiac is its own issue, that is not the issue here.
whitebbwolf
ah yes. those "christian >values<" at work /s
DrMephistoFromSouthParkColorado
none of these things really make sense but chili beans? chili is like one of the most budget friendly meals you can do
dazergolf
next: "ration stamp" introduced '39 in germany? nah, sry, it's already worse
iputthefiresout
You're poor, therefore you don't deserve food with taste
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
"No baked beans". Like why give them a great and extremely cheap source of nutrients?
LendLeaseIdentity
I was just in hospital. Cardio restricted meal (no fat, no salt, no flavor) cost more than you would believe. I finally rebelled 1/
LendLeaseIdentity
(yes really, I threw a tamper tantrum), they pulled me off cardio restricted, tested me, decided I could leave the hospital. I'm now 2/
LendLeaseIdentity
Super weak and trying to recover. American healthcare, everyone.
sfrinlan
To be fair, you really do have to actively manage your own care. They've got boxes to tick.
sfrinlan
I mean that in a "Good job" way, but I don't think it came out right
graehall
From others who have commented on it, apparently this is like tailor made to target hispanic folk. It's horrible, cruel, AND racist
angrygardener
It's not though. It's the WIC list for the state https://time.com/6249096/iowa-bill-threatens-snap/ doesn't mean it makes sense necessarily
ChimeraOfFury
and what makes us believe that the WIC list wasn't racially targeted when it was made?
angrygardener
I mean... what can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. It's another federal program
ChimeraOfFury
Sure. my point was that smth being a federal program or guideline is not necessarily mutually exclusive with it being racially motivated
angrygardener
https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/frequently-asked-questions
Clarysage
I could see the first few as trying to get people to eat healthier (I don't think the should be forced, personally), but no fresh meat? I-
Clarysage
-thought processed meat is way worse, is there some pseudo-reasoning for that other than hating the poor?
MisterBulldops
The Standard American Diet has way too much meat consumption and doesn't need to be subsidized. This is to encourage alternative proteins.
Clarysage
That makes sense, but I hope they'll at least give people advice on what the alternatives are. I don't eat meat myself but I wouldn't want-
Clarysage
-that choice to be forced on me.
AnxiaTeaDD
I already commented on how classist this shit is. I was also thinking about one of my kids has a sensitivity to gluten. And how there are
AnxiaTeaDD
ppl who do require special diets. I’m pretty sure all wheat grains contain gluten. But of course the GOP dosnt fkn care.
rubypilgrim
this. Why are we even having this conversation? Just fucking FEED PEOPLE GOOD FOOD. We have it. We have the ability to let people choose.-
rubypilgrim
I pay taxes, and I am fine with those taxes being spent on making sure people have healthy, nutritious food in a nation that can afford-
rubypilgrim
billionaires. If we can't afford to feed people, then we can't afford billionaires. Math checks out.
ChimeraOfFury
So do "white breads." It's just wheat flour that's been processed. Dietary restr. and sensitivities are just a whole problem on their own.
trippingthelightfantastic
Meanwhile
Nickelbackfat
Good! More of this, please!
Bolkstoff
Wow, the tax-exempt scam of running a church wasn't enough for them, they needed to scam Covid relief as well.
ALLCAPSROCK
it is the republican "christian" thing to do, gawd bless... with a cleansing fire!!!
DotcoreJetkill
No american cheese? What's next, no French whiskey?
lxix
Just wait until you discover that "american cheese" isn't really american. *laughs manically in Canadian*
Jimmytheeel
I see what you did there
nclu
tbf, Brenne is good
MechKelly
Isn't american cheese cheaper than most others?
saintbrun
It depends. Generic individually wrapped slices? Yes. Kraft singles? Not necessarily.
Yoganmahew
No Russian chocolate?
dmjalund
nah, American chocolate is worse
JAFIOI
You can have my Mexican maple syrup when you pry it from my cold dead hands!
SomethingOtherThanMyRealName
What about Scottish applesauce?!
OperationRustysBlanket
Are they known for being bad at that?
jonReremy9669
no, only worst-chester-shire sause! tahp-ah-dah-mahrnahng-tah-yah guvnna!
AtLeastImWearingUnderwear
British spices?
DotcoreJetkill
*stares in rest of the world*
Lovingimpaler
Cheeky
RajaBerms
I have had two French whisky recently and both quite good. La Piautre .
chromed
And in real life America makes some excellent cheeses. But it's a good joke anyway.
Subaruislife
Wisconsin don't fuck around
DotcoreJetkill
onlyhalfghost
American cheeses can be quite good. The cheese variety "American" is one of two things: plastic crap or a blend of cheddar and colby
yeahhedugit
AlmostScientist
Well when the food stamp users can’t buy food they’ll have to eat the rich
Lovingimpaler
Wouldn't that be like eating shit tho?
rcndg
i feel like a lot of political issues in the united states could be resolved rn by arming the homeless. they have a 2A right too, after all.
TK421isAFK
Or fall back on the old "Oops, I forgot to scan a few things at the self check-out". Walmart will lose a few dollars, but oh fucking well.
FabergeBurrito
I heard that Walmart employees are being told to chill on shop lifter crackdown. They're not paid enough, or anyone else for that matter.
TK421isAFK
Oh, it's way beyond that. Self-checkout cashiers can intervene if they see someone blatantly ring up an item incorrectly, but no Walmart 1/2
TK421isAFK
employee, other than asset protection or contracted security guards, can touch a customer or shoplifter. They will be fired for it, or 2/3
TK421isAFK
even for accusing a person of stealing. The liability of compensating an employee that gets hurt while confronting a customer is far 3/4
mizmoose
The R myth that poor people use SNAP to buy steak & lobster because "someone saw" one person do it once. It's another Welfare Queen tale.
sfrinlan
They're way more aggressive about catching welfare recipient fraud than they are about catching wage theft, that's for sure.
mizmoose
and welfare fraud is fairly uncommon. it's a lot harder now that there's a plastic card instead of slips of paper you can sell.
sfrinlan
The fraud is more on the side of lying to qualify for more benefit. Claiming to be a single parent, for instance. Again, uncommon still.
Hammertulski
I got into it with some fuck here on Imgur who thinks that everyone uses SNAP to buy huge amounts of candy. It's a myth with legs, sadly.
mizmoose
Someone once talked about buying a huge cake on SNAP & some ass in line gave them crap. Person's kid had just finished chemo. MYOB, people.
rubypilgrim
frankly, if that's what people are doing, that's their business, right? If we want people to have a balanced diet, then we feed them one. -
rubypilgrim
for free. Because we generate so much wealth, we can afford to do that. Wealthy people do not need all the welfare we're giving them.
rubypilgrim
A balanced diet, btw, TASTES GOOD. It's appealing. It's not about demotivating people to work. People will work for a new sofa or to help-
rubypilgrim
save elephants. We shouldn't be working to eat or have a home, but to better our lives and our world.
spattr
Without the Senate or the Presidency, it's all a big circle jerk in the US House of Representatives. Nothing they pass will become law
Burke616
They're OK with that, because that lets them say the Democrats are obstructionist do-nothings and holding back progress.
mintyfreshismygod
Or states then use it as a roadmap to repress more quiely in their own state programs.
RizzleMeThis
It's the Iowa GOP, there's a real risk of it becoming law for them.
obviouslyrob
EBT is a federal program.
sleepinggreenidea
It's a federal program that's administered by the states. They can and do place restrictions on it.
Greenwaxy
But they’ll use it to make sound bytes to shore up their primary campaigns. And we all suffer.
sleepinggreenidea
It's Iowa's legislature, not Congress. They absolutely can put this into practice. They already do the same shit w/ their WIC aid.
LuminoZero
That sounds like a Iowa problem. Maybe they should burn their State Congress to the ground if they want to get the infection out.
saevon
maybe YOU should. Why the fuck would you want your country to have this ANYWHERE?
LuminoZero
I can't vote in Iowa elections. What would you like me to do to fix THEM being fucking idiots?