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Nigbad1984
How dare they, due to his bone spurs it’s obvious he had to hobble away from them. I demand accuracy!
JustDontGiveAF
Answer: The US cant defeat covid cause they literally dont give a shit about their citizens well being
Trunkmonkay
Biden was also a draft dodger......
BannedForSFW05
noonehasthisoneyet
Remember when Seinfeld got Obama that kickass black bomber jacket with “44” stitched onto the sleeve? I miss him, guys. Can he come back?
Magus25
Just think U.S. only 6 months until you get a new president who may actually try to help the people. Hang tight stay home wear a mask.
Babybunz
Where was biden during Vietnam?
Blimymyhat
Why is joe turning into Lokai in the second photo?
MariKurisato
God dammit take my upvote.
FloppyPankake47
Too be fair, Ebola wasn’t exactly a pandemic, at least not in the states.
RootMeanSqr
I could have been, but Obama. The same could be said for Covid-19, but Trump.
PrickasaursRex
v
mikesimjr7911
I didnt realize Biden and OBama served...
djzapz
True, but I'd argue there's a difference between not serving and dodging the draft. Obama was 12 when the draft was abolished.
TheRealAethrys
Biden ducked out of Vietnam as well btw
AwfulCalamity
Five student draft deferrals and asthma.
icantthinkofacleverusernameeither5
Tynford
v e
Chocolatecoveredmoose
Stealing this
helenfrankannekeller
Perfect
AndyGlastonbury
It’s a shame that neither Biden nor Obama served either. That way they might have some bragging rights, but alas not.
JifLover
Funny thing is Biden also got a deferment! LOL
gurlsnuggler
Biden went strait into other public service.
TrowelAndError
I will never not be disappointed that there aren’t two Congress people whose jobs are to sit in on all the sessions and make jokes like this
angryjumbus
what saints who definitely never did anything wrong themselves, nope, no lies or mass deaths caused from Obama. (stop glorifying monsters)
BobbyMikeNY
Neither of these noodles served in the military either. Career politicians who some how became millionaires.
thesameasyours
Bigmfworm1
.
TheDireWolf
Losing My Republican
awesmond
Holy sweet shit this is hilarious.
OhTheySayThisUsernameIsNotTaken
imemmental
LompHoofd
Goddamnitmisterrnoodle
NoodlesWthADHD
Mrpointsouttheobvious
Diclac
Fuck Biden!Old senile Fart.Cant even speak properly. Grabs and sniffes on little girls...wtf....how can he be a better choice than Sanders.
frank1687
i can't remember, what branch of the service was obama in?
RideTheStimutacs
Honestly though, I'd dodge the shit out of a draft if they still had it. I'd be a terrible soldier.
ConfessionBare
Just FYI, Biden "dodged the draft" in the exact same way as Trump. 4 deferments for school, one for a previously undisclosed medical reason.
icommentwithsteveharvey
WhereCanYouSeeLions
Reminds me of Stalin purging the Jewish doctors from Moscow right before he suffered a stroke and died.
ThyDM
What’s this from?
LizeDK
Life of Brian
QuantumBits
Life of Brian. The question he asks is"What have the Romans ever done for us?"
RootEnoch
StunnedGoofy
Aziz! Light!
Eindride
Aziz, light.... IIII
45acp
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Oh, Obamacare?!! SHUT UP!
That moment when nobody in the thread knows the context of the original gif
Norwegurian
Guys quit downvoting, "SHUT UP" Ia just the next line in the movie, i dont think he is actually pissed off
zorben
Maybe, but I also have a strong suspicion he is a Russian spy....
*Lацgиs пёгvоцslу*
Quid739
Calm down, this gif is only about the lesser of two evils. Just as with Rome, it is not implied that Obama was good.
What do you mean?
The next line in the movie is shut up.
If you mean the next line after this gif, I wouldn't call this context.
what would you call it then?
thisisprocrastination
So did Biden, and Obama never served either. So they're pretty crappy examples for this.
Makes you ineligible to criticize either way. And Biden did dodge the draft. Multiple times.
Me? I personally am neither Biden or Obama. I'm a different person altogether.
Don't be obtuse.
Your point is that we cannot criticize Trump's draft dodge on the basis that Obama has not served and Biden has dodged the draft too, that's
Gruntingsince1775
I mean... Biden didnt serve either. He had "asthma" Jo Jorgensen 2020!
Ana5ta51a
Biden doesn't insult POWs, war heroes and their families, not does he condone Putin's bounty on US troops.
He does sniff children though. Almost like it's time to vote third party?
mormacil
*Has, medicated and all. Pretty conclusive medical record on the subject. Unlike Trump's bonespurs, something he can't even recall he had.
NitherNor
Vietnam is one of the greatest moral failings of the US in history, it should be an eternal source of shame.
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
And Biden, like Trump, had four student deferments, then received a 1-Y classification for a history of asthma. Asthma didn't seem to...
...effect his college football days or work as a lifeguard at the community pool. Never mentioned his asthma in memoir, "Promises to Keep"
AstralDebris
0 Birth Certificates.../s -- I love this man
R4113
“The greatest political crime in history “
Lugassss
And invaded 5 nations, nobel of peace is worthless
Don't get me wrong, as a foreigner it's still one of the best presidents ever
Ralter3
Only 5 nations in 8 years does seem rather low for American standards.
gerruptheyard2718
And Got! Bin Laden?
InsensitiveComments
wheres trumps info graph ?
Athenawins
39 idiots downvotes this post and those who downvote this comments are idiots as well
yourbassist
Did we really need to bail out the auto industry though?
dontknowbuthello
We all deserve a free car
dekket
Yes, you did. The amount of foreign investment brought in by merely having a substantial auto industry, more than covers the bail-out. >
> It's of course more complicated and nuanced than that, but that's the gist. Check out Economics Explained on YT if u wanna dig deeper.
Silas007
Henry Kissinger won the Nobel peace prize. That is not someone I would want to be associated with. Giving it to Obama was just rubbing it in
jelladelta
Though this post is fluffing the man, it could've just had the last two points to count as a better politician than the orange scrotum
joerider555
I think that is what "Obama gate" refers to. The argument is that Trump's impeachment wouldn't have occurred if Obama hadn't ordered it
(I left out a lot of caveats and defensive language in the hopes that you will read it charitably)
Eeer... Did Obama order the impeachment?? I'm very over us politics, but I don't think I'd have missed that nugget of info
That's what the "Obama gate" thing is supposedly about. But I don't think there is much to back that up
Mombeater
Was handed a Novel Peace Prize for being the first black president. If we're listing truths, we gotta be honest.
heywoodjabme
I didn’t know he won the Novel Peace prize as well, another accolade!
enthalpy1289
He deported more immigrants than trump
DI2EAD
Shhhh only feelings here, not facts.
RisingPhoenix92
The facts are Obama was pressing Republicans to help Dems in reforming immigration law. Yet Reps cant be asked to do work
And yet somehow was accused of being soft on immigration. Almost like he was trying to work with Congress to fix that shit
BigBullsFan
If they’re in America illegally, aren’t they supposed to be deported?
firehawkcultist
Overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants came over legally for seasonal jobs, hear the rhetoric about "border security" and the
demonizing and figure they'd not be let back in if they actually followed the laws so instead risking losing the income choose to stay
after their visas expire. This ofc is an simplification but point is the harsher we are on illegal immigrants the more it exacerbates it
AlaskanX
Per year, or total? Cause... he worked on that number a bit longer than Trump has.
verdenvidia
i think even by this point he had done more though i havent brushed up on my sources so dont take my word for it
MadeYouLookAgain
Glad you still get the need to weigh in regardless of what you know or don't know.
just trying to converse
rowm
Was is/was “weekly” edited?
InfinitusEquitas
He won the Nobel for no reason at all.
pyrrhlis
He himself has joked that
yepitspuck
There isn't a Nobel in the field of Not being Bush the Lesser, so they gave him the peace one instead...
daguq
He won it for numerous speeches around the world promoting peace. The fact that he then went ham with drones is beside the point.
barryleaper
American presidents do have a penchant for bombing people, i think it is beyond their control, Eisenhower warned about this, he bombed too
American presidents have a lot of influence how much they bomb and how many homes/hospitals they destroy or how many they civillians kill.
Just watch the Obama - Trump transition
That is true. Altho the peace prize has always been super political, even tho it's supposed to be the opposite.
GoIIum
The purpose of the price is to move the world towards peace. It has been given to war criminals and terrorists for that purpose in the past.
itsppearsyoucanindeed
Kind of like the eurovision song contest
Eurovision is political?..
Obviously, because my country never wins
Fledbeast578
Poor Alfred, he was merely trying to leave a legacy behind to reward those who do what he could not,
Or.... To make his legacy look better than how it was perceived at the time.
iamthisguy247
Yeah ok. But, tan suit.
Iconicmonster
That suit looked bad ass!
ElroydIsGone
And DIJON MUSTARD! Never forget!
SeregRauko
Didn't know about this. Read up on it. WTF!?
LordSintax79
See... the Conservatives were VERY angry that the country elected a brown person.
brianpmcmillan
Like, super angry.
Can't have been about the mustard itself.. Dijon is fuckin' delicious. Obama has taste.
BobaFettApproves
That’s all it fuckin was.
sc363
He could really have done so much more with maj. But yeah i would imagine anyone that got hc would be happy.
Inmydefensethemoonwasfull
Gave billions to Iran in exchange for no nukes after saying, "We will not deal with terrorists."
quademan47
That was actually money that belonged to them in the first place but who cares about facts he gave them our money
The same day the cash was delivered 5 American hostages were freed and The Obama Administration had been denying it since.
B1GP7
Expanded the wars, increased drone strikes, bailed out wall street and not the american people.
Do remember the bailouts started before he was president. He didn't have the political clout to stop them when he came in.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/andrew-yang-criticize-obama-handling-financial-crisis-economy-wall-street-2020-1-1028847191
TheRealArclight
nope.....https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
Yes https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush
That Trump has done even more to that effect does not mean Obama hasn't done it. I get that such clarification seems misplaced in a tally -
- between the two but it is also wrong to present Obama as a bringer of peace. At least he was as much a warmonger as most other presidents.
libaf
Ebola has never been a pandemic. And obamas nobel is a joke considering the amount of drone murders on his watch and orders. I get he's >
AlexSomething
Seems to me we'd have to fuck up royally, or have the virus mutate heavily, for it to ever start a pandemic.
MagnorCriol
Agree on all four points. That sort of inflation only makes room for other people to discard the entire argument.
insongwhang
I agree with you on his fight against ebola
DatDarthCaedus
I think ebola should be included in some fashion, simply because Trump was screaming about Obama's response to it, and how he should 1/2
have resigned over the 11 cases and 2 deaths caused by ebola in the US (and letting a doctor return to the US for treatment for it).
HelgenBorderPatrol
I would think his nobel prize is less something he earned and more something that was given to him as a symbolic victory for racial equality
Not saying he did or didn't deserve it, but I don't think its really indicative of his actions is all.
lightyears better than trump, but for fuck's sake don't deify the man.
He’s always been touted like that. You’re 100% right.
Dont forget his war on whistleblowers
DoktorWeasel
Don't deify anyone. There are no perfect people. Putting people on a pedestal as perfect is always going to backfire. You've got to look at
both the good and the bad, and recognize both. Neither invalidates the other. Demanding perfection is foolish, and projecting it more so.
OliverClothesoff70
I don’t think even President Obama knew why he was awarded a Nobel prize so early in his term. It was like they gave it to him for all (1)
the things they predicted he would PROBABLY do as President. I remember that being very strange. (2)
4Astaroth
Yeah. He said "I will close Quantanamo." and they were like "Good enough."
Thisisntactuallyme
It's presidents like him that make me wonder why America only allows 2 terms of service.
MystiCaliKotta
FDR is why.
I get it's a constitutional thing but can't we all agree the constitution has it's flaws
No, we can’t. Therein lies the problem.
Less time with the good ones, less time with the bad ones.
Then how about stick with the good ones, if approval ratings are high and people want them in charge then why not allow them to be.
without a term limit you get Putin
I know that's the theory behind it but if you know the guys a straight up g then why not allow votes to prove him to be legible for longer
If Australia could actually get a decent leader I would have 0 problems with that person getting re-elected for as long as possible.
yelwing
Then Trump came along and blew him away with real success
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
What's ur favorite Trump statistic?
iHumanity
MyBallsSpellAmazingInBraille
I feel like you were making a joke but everyone has lost it.
stingraysds
DanceFightingDog
superpaul79
Just out of curiosity, can you list a few? With sources, of course.
He’s done a few things, particularly related to trade war and tariffs, that could be construed as success from a certain viewpoint.
First Step Act from what I understand is good right? Or am I a stupid baby? I want to be educated.
dontthought
And from many other viewpoints, the trade war and tariffs have been a failure due to how they've negatively impacted American businesses.
KilljoyWasHere
China won the trade war, plain and simple. Trump bankrupted and broke American farmers with his clumsy tariffs. So much winning though..
Yes, but there is no point. If you were open minded and truly curious, you would have looked for yourself.
I’ve searched myself. I haven’t found anything that I could argue amounts to a significant measurable success. What did I miss?
WhatTheHellHero
Shooting down some one for a seemingly sincere request for a source seems self defeating. Also: You make the claim you provide the source.
disposabledom
So you don't have any. Got it.
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
The burden of proof is on the one who argues it, not the audience.
If I say there is a beautiful sunset outside, I’m not obligated to grab you by the chin and point your face toward the sun.
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
Oh yeah. He is the image of success. A bloated creepy bunker bitch who wants to play powerful.
Leave some Coolaid for the rest of the haters
Did that sound smart in your head?
didnt even spell kool-aid properly
Croaked
Definitely a cop
Nigbad1984
How dare they, due to his bone spurs it’s obvious he had to hobble away from them. I demand accuracy!
JustDontGiveAF
Answer: The US cant defeat covid cause they literally dont give a shit about their citizens well being
Trunkmonkay
Biden was also a draft dodger......
BannedForSFW05
noonehasthisoneyet
Remember when Seinfeld got Obama that kickass black bomber jacket with “44” stitched onto the sleeve? I miss him, guys. Can he come back?
Magus25
Just think U.S. only 6 months until you get a new president who may actually try to help the people. Hang tight stay home wear a mask.
Babybunz
Where was biden during Vietnam?
Blimymyhat
Why is joe turning into Lokai in the second photo?
MariKurisato
God dammit take my upvote.
FloppyPankake47
Too be fair, Ebola wasn’t exactly a pandemic, at least not in the states.
RootMeanSqr
I could have been, but Obama. The same could be said for Covid-19, but Trump.
PrickasaursRex
mikesimjr7911
I didnt realize Biden and OBama served...
djzapz
True, but I'd argue there's a difference between not serving and dodging the draft. Obama was 12 when the draft was abolished.
TheRealAethrys
Biden ducked out of Vietnam as well btw
AwfulCalamity
Five student draft deferrals and asthma.
icantthinkofacleverusernameeither5
Tynford
Chocolatecoveredmoose
Stealing this
helenfrankannekeller
Perfect
AndyGlastonbury
It’s a shame that neither Biden nor Obama served either. That way they might have some bragging rights, but alas not.
JifLover
Funny thing is Biden also got a deferment! LOL
gurlsnuggler
Biden went strait into other public service.
TrowelAndError
I will never not be disappointed that there aren’t two Congress people whose jobs are to sit in on all the sessions and make jokes like this
angryjumbus
what saints who definitely never did anything wrong themselves, nope, no lies or mass deaths caused from Obama. (stop glorifying monsters)
BobbyMikeNY
Neither of these noodles served in the military either. Career politicians who some how became millionaires.
thesameasyours
Bigmfworm1
.
TheDireWolf
Losing My Republican
awesmond
Holy sweet shit this is hilarious.
OhTheySayThisUsernameIsNotTaken
imemmental
LompHoofd
Goddamnitmisterrnoodle
NoodlesWthADHD
Mrpointsouttheobvious
Diclac
Fuck Biden!Old senile Fart.Cant even speak properly. Grabs and sniffes on little girls...wtf....how can he be a better choice than Sanders.
frank1687
i can't remember, what branch of the service was obama in?
RideTheStimutacs
Honestly though, I'd dodge the shit out of a draft if they still had it. I'd be a terrible soldier.
ConfessionBare
Just FYI, Biden "dodged the draft" in the exact same way as Trump. 4 deferments for school, one for a previously undisclosed medical reason.
icommentwithsteveharvey
WhereCanYouSeeLions
Reminds me of Stalin purging the Jewish doctors from Moscow right before he suffered a stroke and died.
ThyDM
What’s this from?
LizeDK
Life of Brian
QuantumBits
Life of Brian. The question he asks is"What have the Romans ever done for us?"
RootEnoch
StunnedGoofy
Aziz! Light!
Eindride
Aziz, light.... IIII
icommentwithsteveharvey
45acp
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Oh, Obamacare?!! SHUT UP!
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
That moment when nobody in the thread knows the context of the original gif
Norwegurian
Guys quit downvoting, "SHUT UP" Ia just the next line in the movie, i dont think he is actually pissed off
zorben
Maybe, but I also have a strong suspicion he is a Russian spy....
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
*Lацgиs пёгvоцslу*
Quid739
Calm down, this gif is only about the lesser of two evils. Just as with Rome, it is not implied that Obama was good.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
That moment when nobody in the thread knows the context of the original gif
Quid739
What do you mean?
RootEnoch
The next line in the movie is shut up.
Quid739
If you mean the next line after this gif, I wouldn't call this context.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
what would you call it then?
thisisprocrastination
So did Biden, and Obama never served either. So they're pretty crappy examples for this.
djzapz
True, but I'd argue there's a difference between not serving and dodging the draft. Obama was 12 when the draft was abolished.
thisisprocrastination
Makes you ineligible to criticize either way. And Biden did dodge the draft. Multiple times.
djzapz
Me? I personally am neither Biden or Obama. I'm a different person altogether.
thisisprocrastination
Don't be obtuse.
djzapz
Your point is that we cannot criticize Trump's draft dodge on the basis that Obama has not served and Biden has dodged the draft too, that's
OhTheySayThisUsernameIsNotTaken
Gruntingsince1775
I mean... Biden didnt serve either. He had "asthma" Jo Jorgensen 2020!
Ana5ta51a
Biden doesn't insult POWs, war heroes and their families, not does he condone Putin's bounty on US troops.
Gruntingsince1775
He does sniff children though. Almost like it's time to vote third party?
mormacil
*Has, medicated and all. Pretty conclusive medical record on the subject. Unlike Trump's bonespurs, something he can't even recall he had.
NitherNor
Vietnam is one of the greatest moral failings of the US in history, it should be an eternal source of shame.
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
And Biden, like Trump, had four student deferments, then received a 1-Y classification for a history of asthma. Asthma didn't seem to...
DownvotesRmyBadgeUvadge
...effect his college football days or work as a lifeguard at the community pool. Never mentioned his asthma in memoir, "Promises to Keep"
icommentwithsteveharvey
AstralDebris
0 Birth Certificates.../s -- I love this man
R4113
“The greatest political crime in history “
Lugassss
And invaded 5 nations, nobel of peace is worthless
Lugassss
Don't get me wrong, as a foreigner it's still one of the best presidents ever
Ralter3
Only 5 nations in 8 years does seem rather low for American standards.
gerruptheyard2718
And Got! Bin Laden?
InsensitiveComments
wheres trumps info graph ?
icommentwithsteveharvey
InsensitiveComments
Athenawins
39 idiots downvotes this post and those who downvote this comments are idiots as well
yourbassist
Did we really need to bail out the auto industry though?
dontknowbuthello
We all deserve a free car
dekket
Yes, you did. The amount of foreign investment brought in by merely having a substantial auto industry, more than covers the bail-out. >
dekket
> It's of course more complicated and nuanced than that, but that's the gist. Check out Economics Explained on YT if u wanna dig deeper.
Silas007
Henry Kissinger won the Nobel peace prize. That is not someone I would want to be associated with. Giving it to Obama was just rubbing it in
jelladelta
Though this post is fluffing the man, it could've just had the last two points to count as a better politician than the orange scrotum
joerider555
I think that is what "Obama gate" refers to. The argument is that Trump's impeachment wouldn't have occurred if Obama hadn't ordered it
joerider555
(I left out a lot of caveats and defensive language in the hopes that you will read it charitably)
jelladelta
Eeer... Did Obama order the impeachment?? I'm very over us politics, but I don't think I'd have missed that nugget of info
joerider555
That's what the "Obama gate" thing is supposedly about. But I don't think there is much to back that up
Mombeater
Was handed a Novel Peace Prize for being the first black president. If we're listing truths, we gotta be honest.
heywoodjabme
I didn’t know he won the Novel Peace prize as well, another accolade!
enthalpy1289
He deported more immigrants than trump
DI2EAD
Shhhh only feelings here, not facts.
RisingPhoenix92
The facts are Obama was pressing Republicans to help Dems in reforming immigration law. Yet Reps cant be asked to do work
RisingPhoenix92
And yet somehow was accused of being soft on immigration. Almost like he was trying to work with Congress to fix that shit
BigBullsFan
If they’re in America illegally, aren’t they supposed to be deported?
firehawkcultist
Overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants came over legally for seasonal jobs, hear the rhetoric about "border security" and the
firehawkcultist
demonizing and figure they'd not be let back in if they actually followed the laws so instead risking losing the income choose to stay
firehawkcultist
after their visas expire. This ofc is an simplification but point is the harsher we are on illegal immigrants the more it exacerbates it
AlaskanX
Per year, or total? Cause... he worked on that number a bit longer than Trump has.
verdenvidia
i think even by this point he had done more though i havent brushed up on my sources so dont take my word for it
MadeYouLookAgain
Glad you still get the need to weigh in regardless of what you know or don't know.
verdenvidia
just trying to converse
rowm
Was is/was “weekly” edited?
InfinitusEquitas
He won the Nobel for no reason at all.
pyrrhlis
He himself has joked that
yepitspuck
There isn't a Nobel in the field of Not being Bush the Lesser, so they gave him the peace one instead...
daguq
He won it for numerous speeches around the world promoting peace. The fact that he then went ham with drones is beside the point.
barryleaper
American presidents do have a penchant for bombing people, i think it is beyond their control, Eisenhower warned about this, he bombed too
Silas007
American presidents have a lot of influence how much they bomb and how many homes/hospitals they destroy or how many they civillians kill.
Silas007
Just watch the Obama - Trump transition
dekket
That is true. Altho the peace prize has always been super political, even tho it's supposed to be the opposite.
GoIIum
The purpose of the price is to move the world towards peace. It has been given to war criminals and terrorists for that purpose in the past.
itsppearsyoucanindeed
Kind of like the eurovision song contest
dekket
Eurovision is political?..
itsppearsyoucanindeed
Obviously, because my country never wins
Fledbeast578
Poor Alfred, he was merely trying to leave a legacy behind to reward those who do what he could not,
dekket
Or.... To make his legacy look better than how it was perceived at the time.
iamthisguy247
Yeah ok. But, tan suit.
Iconicmonster
That suit looked bad ass!
ElroydIsGone
And DIJON MUSTARD! Never forget!
SeregRauko
Didn't know about this. Read up on it. WTF!?
LordSintax79
See... the Conservatives were VERY angry that the country elected a brown person.
brianpmcmillan
Like, super angry.
SeregRauko
Can't have been about the mustard itself.. Dijon is fuckin' delicious. Obama has taste.
BobaFettApproves
That’s all it fuckin was.
sc363
He could really have done so much more with maj. But yeah i would imagine anyone that got hc would be happy.
Inmydefensethemoonwasfull
Gave billions to Iran in exchange for no nukes after saying, "We will not deal with terrorists."
quademan47
That was actually money that belonged to them in the first place but who cares about facts he gave them our money
Inmydefensethemoonwasfull
The same day the cash was delivered 5 American hostages were freed and The Obama Administration had been denying it since.
B1GP7
Expanded the wars, increased drone strikes, bailed out wall street and not the american people.
Ralter3
Do remember the bailouts started before he was president. He didn't have the political clout to stop them when he came in.
B1GP7
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/andrew-yang-criticize-obama-handling-financial-crisis-economy-wall-street-2020-1-1028847191
TheRealArclight
nope.....https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
B1GP7
Yes https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush
Quid739
That Trump has done even more to that effect does not mean Obama hasn't done it. I get that such clarification seems misplaced in a tally -
Quid739
- between the two but it is also wrong to present Obama as a bringer of peace. At least he was as much a warmonger as most other presidents.
libaf
Ebola has never been a pandemic. And obamas nobel is a joke considering the amount of drone murders on his watch and orders. I get he's >
AlexSomething
Seems to me we'd have to fuck up royally, or have the virus mutate heavily, for it to ever start a pandemic.
MagnorCriol
Agree on all four points. That sort of inflation only makes room for other people to discard the entire argument.
insongwhang
I agree with you on his fight against ebola
DatDarthCaedus
I think ebola should be included in some fashion, simply because Trump was screaming about Obama's response to it, and how he should 1/2
DatDarthCaedus
have resigned over the 11 cases and 2 deaths caused by ebola in the US (and letting a doctor return to the US for treatment for it).
HelgenBorderPatrol
I would think his nobel prize is less something he earned and more something that was given to him as a symbolic victory for racial equality
HelgenBorderPatrol
Not saying he did or didn't deserve it, but I don't think its really indicative of his actions is all.
libaf
lightyears better than trump, but for fuck's sake don't deify the man.
DI2EAD
He’s always been touted like that. You’re 100% right.
Silas007
Dont forget his war on whistleblowers
DoktorWeasel
Don't deify anyone. There are no perfect people. Putting people on a pedestal as perfect is always going to backfire. You've got to look at
DoktorWeasel
both the good and the bad, and recognize both. Neither invalidates the other. Demanding perfection is foolish, and projecting it more so.
OliverClothesoff70
I don’t think even President Obama knew why he was awarded a Nobel prize so early in his term. It was like they gave it to him for all (1)
OliverClothesoff70
the things they predicted he would PROBABLY do as President. I remember that being very strange. (2)
4Astaroth
Yeah. He said "I will close Quantanamo." and they were like "Good enough."
Thisisntactuallyme
It's presidents like him that make me wonder why America only allows 2 terms of service.
MystiCaliKotta
FDR is why.
Thisisntactuallyme
I get it's a constitutional thing but can't we all agree the constitution has it's flaws
BigBullsFan
No, we can’t. Therein lies the problem.
gurlsnuggler
Less time with the good ones, less time with the bad ones.
Thisisntactuallyme
Then how about stick with the good ones, if approval ratings are high and people want them in charge then why not allow them to be.
verdenvidia
without a term limit you get Putin
Thisisntactuallyme
I know that's the theory behind it but if you know the guys a straight up g then why not allow votes to prove him to be legible for longer
Thisisntactuallyme
If Australia could actually get a decent leader I would have 0 problems with that person getting re-elected for as long as possible.
yelwing
Then Trump came along and blew him away with real success
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
What's ur favorite Trump statistic?
TheRealArclight
iHumanity
MyBallsSpellAmazingInBraille
I feel like you were making a joke but everyone has lost it.
stingraysds
DanceFightingDog
stingraysds
OhTheySayThisUsernameIsNotTaken
superpaul79
Just out of curiosity, can you list a few? With sources, of course.
AlaskanX
He’s done a few things, particularly related to trade war and tariffs, that could be construed as success from a certain viewpoint.
verdenvidia
First Step Act from what I understand is good right? Or am I a stupid baby? I want to be educated.
dontthought
And from many other viewpoints, the trade war and tariffs have been a failure due to how they've negatively impacted American businesses.
KilljoyWasHere
China won the trade war, plain and simple. Trump bankrupted and broke American farmers with his clumsy tariffs. So much winning though..
yelwing
Yes, but there is no point. If you were open minded and truly curious, you would have looked for yourself.
stingraysds
I’ve searched myself. I haven’t found anything that I could argue amounts to a significant measurable success. What did I miss?
WhatTheHellHero
Shooting down some one for a seemingly sincere request for a source seems self defeating. Also: You make the claim you provide the source.
disposabledom
So you don't have any. Got it.
TheRealArclight
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
The burden of proof is on the one who argues it, not the audience.
yelwing
If I say there is a beautiful sunset outside, I’m not obligated to grab you by the chin and point your face toward the sun.
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
Oh yeah. He is the image of success. A bloated creepy bunker bitch who wants to play powerful.
yelwing
Leave some Coolaid for the rest of the haters
WombatWithWholeWheatWish
Did that sound smart in your head?
verdenvidia
didnt even spell kool-aid properly
Croaked
Definitely a cop