Jul 4, 2018 3:01 PM
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Disney out here lying to us.
ObiHaiv
Yeah, you should look up Cinderella.
jharec
They also hang the goat, btw.
LinkinPiper
The originals were better
Rizzivision
Psychosdonotexplodewhensunlighthitthem
Oh boy, don’t go read the real Little Mermaid then.
MarblesFromSpace
Phoebus is also engaged. He's the one who gets Esmeralda imprisoned because his fiancé said she'd forgive his disloyalty if Esmeralda dies.
Rhazdel
Also, Esmeralda finds her mother and has a touching reunion...just before the guards find her, kill her mom and hang her.
Rifneno
I like the original's realism. People are fucking bastards, beauty matters more than it should, and love can be pain as much as joy.
MrHailstone
Ah yeah.. fairy tails. The evil queen in snow white for example has to dance to her death in shoes coming straight out of the fire
youknowiamasexypenguin
Lol if you think that's bad you should read the source material for the little mermaid...
unpunnyfuns
This!
ColinStrieby
The disney movie was based on the Opera adaption, also written by Hugo. There was a movie based on the book made in 1939 that won an oscar
IDidntWantToDoThis
It is a really interesting historical fact that Hugo is the first person to have changed the ending of THe Hunchback in an adaptation.
xUkuSt3p
wikipedia? nice i cant even use it anymore
scoobydoobydo
God, it kills me. I'm not in the EU, but I can't read articles in Spanish.
vicesat
Original is better
tatertotrow
Check out the original story of Hercules...
ohdeepthought
Ok while we’re talking about hunchback does anyone else chuckle in the cathedral scene when Phoebus says “nobody mentioned you had a kid”?
OaksParcel
I always downvote Frogman
Usernamethatfitsallsituations
straha242
And then he poked himself in the eye with sunglasses.
Evi1Gav
You probably don't want to read the real ending to the little mermaid then
GrossGrimalkin
And, hunchback was written by the same guy who wrote les mis, Victor Hugo.
chapitaine
Les misérables?
SigynRose
Hunchback was written to show how architecture conveys a message. That theme was later changed by Hugo himself when he wrote the stage play
somanywonders987
Dude had issues, but fun fact, Les Mis was written from experience. He dodged bullets during that time in France.
Yep. He also wrote les mis completely naked.
procrasturbation
What?
NiceLegsDaisyDukesMakesAMAAANOUTOFYOOOUUUU
I mean, that's the BEST way to write.
Yep!
DeadeicPrints
I thought the hunch back man got sidelined by the hot chick and kept living in his tower alone at the end.
MagnorCriol
Yes, he did. Phoebus is an asshole instead of a good guy and Esmeralda doesn’t love Quasi.
Huh, guess it's been a while but I didn't remember the non hunch back guy being an asshole.
It’s been a while for me as well, I’m running off a general memory of “everything was basically the reverse,” and I’m far too lazy to check.
VideoGrimes
Disney turns shit stories into good stories. yeah I said it, fight me
trippingthelightfantastic
THE FROGMAN!
nipplepanties
Is an asshole
KingSwing
Oh no, really? I don't wanna ask... But... Whhhy...?
IMadeThisAccountForButts
Apparently he asked imgur to pay 10k because his photos were posted without sources or such
[deleted]
I should have added that i dont think that it necessarily makes him an asshole. But yeah you are right.
drapester
Esmeralda was also written as a complete idiot in the book.
CyberJackalope
Disney ending's better. It simply asks "What makes a monster and what makes a man?" The answer being how they respect a woman's autonomy.
The book was pretty much just, "People are bastards."
GoodEveningThisIsWhatAButtDoesPBBPPBBTT
Frollo betrayed Esmeralda? Was he ever actually on her side? (Didn't read the book)
StanielRonathan
Frollo is the archdeacon in the book, Esmeralda was currently protected in his cathedral under the law of sanctuary. He violates that by-
handing her to king's soldiers, who were pursuing her for the attempted murder of Phoebus when she refuses his romantic/sexual advances.
The Disney movie reassigned Frollo as a malevolent but God-fearing judge and made the Archdeacon a distinct character
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Frollo is fascinating in the book, in the beginning he seems like a hero that saves Quasimodo's life. Then by the end...
sightsignificant
@ButWhyThough
ButWhyThough
Thanks babe......
Do not mock me with Ms Paula
reykjavikparadise
This is why I HATE Disney! they rewrite a story, own it for centuries under copyright law, then sell it back to you
johnzaku
Darkest part for me: Quasi (mute in the book) tries to show Esmerelda the difference between Phoebus and himself 1/?
So he take a beautiful vase and fills it with weeds, and a bucket and puts roses inside. 2/?
Esmerelda fuckin TAKES THE WEEDS AND HOLDS THEM TO HER CHEST DREAMILY. I was like what the fffFUCK, E? 3/3
Oh by the way, in the Phoebus was the one doing all the horrible stuff Frollo does in the movie.
theHitchenator
Bodies don’t turn to dust in 18 months...
Pootisborn
Maybe he had osteoporosis. And maybe THAT'S why his back was hunched.
He would still have skin and some flesh at that point
TargaryenLoyalist
Next you’re gonna tell me that statues don’t talk!
No that’s legit.
ZombieZooZombieZoo
Super acidic soil?
No soil, corpse was in a vault
beauchette
Disney changed *all* those stories. Not just this one.
tagmomg
To be fair for Hunchback in particular, a lot of people modified the story for adaptations, including the original author for the stage play
solitaryjedi
What was the original ending for "cars"?
Or toy story 3
howaboutnothankyouverymuch
They did make a very faithful short out of Hans Christian Anderson's "Little Matchstick Girl" a few years back.
Hellbino
My favorite grimms fairy tail is rumple stilskin where he rips himself in half with a golden floor
FutureHylian
Pocahontis is fucked up
ForestRed
Pocahontas is even worse!
Mispelling her name is the least of her worries
spetcnaz
Little mermaid doesn't end happily either
CaptVito
Like how Elsa after learning to control her powers led a lightning campaign across Northern Europe creating the great northern empire.
Neorago
General rule about Disney movies: If you like the happy ending, do not look into the original story. Just be happy. Don't question it.
YesImkazuma
But that was a big thing with Walt, he wanted to rewrite the stories and give them an alternative happy end.
SlimPickins65
True facts. In the first chapter of Pinnochio, Gepeto kills Jiminy Cricket with a damn hammer.
BlueCat1
Just when you thought Pinocchio couldn’t get any darker...
Well achtually it was Pinno that threw the mallet and it's more like chapter 5-ish? Still, though, that talking cricket gets decked.
dontKnowDontCare87
Really wouldn't have minded that in the movie, tbh
McNastyShrooms
Not frozen though. That one is true.
MichaelAndersen88
They changed the Snow Queen into a good person. She was the villain in the original.
Pentacus
Apparently they changed it because Let It Go ended up being so upbeat. The lyrics take on a different tone when you know it's a villain song
"it's time to see what I can do, to test my limits and break through, no right no wrong no rules for me, I'm free!" Sounds pretty dark now.
LearnSomething
The little mermaid just kills herself in the end and the Prince marries someone else.
TinyLiehon
Hang on, in my version she was late by seconds and as the sun set she dissolved into the foam on the waves as her sisters watched
tzxAzrael
yea, that. instead of killing the prince, she stalls, hems and haws, and FINALLY decides she'll dive super deep in the ocean so the sun cant
touch her.... but meh, too late, the sun comes up while she's diving.
Well he was going to marry a woman based off how well she sung so I didn’t really expect Ariel to succeed in the Disney version.
ZebraCockSandwich
he was going to marry the princess he was betrothed to-who also happened to be the person who found him lying on the beach after the ship1/2
wreak, so he believed that she was the woman who saved him as well. which he didn't know until the end, because he'd never met his betrothed
Eric wasn’t a sharp tack of a man. I mean his dog was smarter than he was.
lol the movie made Eric out to be a little dull, yeah. in the book he just really seems to have no way of knowing.
In the Disney movie his wood was sharp though
Evenmorehorrifying
They had to, the original stories are hella dark!
BruceBannersButtplug
I understand why Disney changed the endings but I really wanna see one where they keep the dark ending instead.
Bigslungel
How did Mulan ended? Was she executed when they found out?
Indeed they are, that's what's fun ^^
MrDeadsr
Yeah go bring ur 6 yar old to a movie showing the original ending
DelumStudios
There is a lot of ways to portray the story with directing/staging without unneccessary "gore", conveying the sadness of the characters.
Trustrup
The question is rather, are we cuddling our children now, or did all kids a 100+ years ago have traumas?
icecreamlorry
We've always been cuddling them I hope! But maybe now we're coddling them too :P
Why would you adapt something not made for children, to children ?
Money? And they made lots of money by doing it.
Well yeah how else do you keep your kids in line? The messages were pretty important for the times.
Daervon
Well, perhaps if today's kids also grew up with the same stories, instead of Rugrats and Spongebob, they wouldn't be such assholes.
worldsGreatestDetectiveOne
Don't you drag Spongebob down with that Rugrats garbage. The early seasons were legit.
My dad used to read me history stories ... looking back I had such an amazing childhood.
Sitraka
dam kids in the old days must have been terrorised !
JasonThorn
They were. Heck, Tom and Jerry had a suicide cartoon, Merri Melodies occasionally killed characters. Saw quite a few of them growing up.
i mean ...even before ! Like those who heard the "real" stories, with pinochio killing Jiminy or Snow White being raped etc.
that could explain World Wars
SithariChaos
Is it a coincidence almost all our dark fairy tales come from Germany?
BlunderbussVigilante
"Then the owl swooped down and ripped the girl's face off. It's a German fairy tale." - ZeFrank
SirKhan
Nope because the only competition was danish.
squirrelrubbinghisnips
Good bedtime stories
MimaMaxima
They weren't meant as bedtime stories nor were they for children. They were supposed to be a lesson for adults. Like, behave or else...
PennyJaye
Aren’t most of them by the brothers GRIMM ? Clue is in the name?
lurkingcabbage
They came from a lot of places, the Grimms just compiled and (to avoid copyright strikes) slightly altered the stories.
GabrielRRL
Cinderella 10/10 original ending best ending
flzerocs
Dint the live action one had that ending and part with the slipper?
SwedishFlopper
Love cutting toes to fit into a wooden slipper.
Don't forget that her first act as Princess was to have her stepmother and sisters dance on hot coals until they die as birds eat their eyes
Equinox13
I thought that was Snow White and the evil queen.
It's both, though the queen has burning iron shoes instead of coals (which is fair, coals are cheaper and don't need to be custom made)
ObiHaiv
Yeah, you should look up Cinderella.
jharec
They also hang the goat, btw.
LinkinPiper
The originals were better
Rizzivision
Psychosdonotexplodewhensunlighthitthem
Oh boy, don’t go read the real Little Mermaid then.
MarblesFromSpace
Phoebus is also engaged. He's the one who gets Esmeralda imprisoned because his fiancé said she'd forgive his disloyalty if Esmeralda dies.
Rhazdel
Also, Esmeralda finds her mother and has a touching reunion...just before the guards find her, kill her mom and hang her.
Rifneno
I like the original's realism. People are fucking bastards, beauty matters more than it should, and love can be pain as much as joy.
MrHailstone
Ah yeah.. fairy tails. The evil queen in snow white for example has to dance to her death in shoes coming straight out of the fire
youknowiamasexypenguin
Lol if you think that's bad you should read the source material for the little mermaid...
unpunnyfuns
This!
ColinStrieby
The disney movie was based on the Opera adaption, also written by Hugo. There was a movie based on the book made in 1939 that won an oscar
IDidntWantToDoThis
It is a really interesting historical fact that Hugo is the first person to have changed the ending of THe Hunchback in an adaptation.
xUkuSt3p
wikipedia? nice i cant even use it anymore
scoobydoobydo
God, it kills me. I'm not in the EU, but I can't read articles in Spanish.
vicesat
Original is better
tatertotrow
Check out the original story of Hercules...
ohdeepthought
Ok while we’re talking about hunchback does anyone else chuckle in the cathedral scene when Phoebus says “nobody mentioned you had a kid”?
OaksParcel
I always downvote Frogman
Usernamethatfitsallsituations
straha242
And then he poked himself in the eye with sunglasses.
Evi1Gav
You probably don't want to read the real ending to the little mermaid then
GrossGrimalkin
And, hunchback was written by the same guy who wrote les mis, Victor Hugo.
chapitaine
Les misérables?
SigynRose
Hunchback was written to show how architecture conveys a message. That theme was later changed by Hugo himself when he wrote the stage play
somanywonders987
Dude had issues, but fun fact, Les Mis was written from experience. He dodged bullets during that time in France.
GrossGrimalkin
Yep. He also wrote les mis completely naked.
procrasturbation
What?
NiceLegsDaisyDukesMakesAMAAANOUTOFYOOOUUUU
I mean, that's the BEST way to write.
GrossGrimalkin
Yep!
DeadeicPrints
I thought the hunch back man got sidelined by the hot chick and kept living in his tower alone at the end.
MagnorCriol
Yes, he did. Phoebus is an asshole instead of a good guy and Esmeralda doesn’t love Quasi.
DeadeicPrints
Huh, guess it's been a while but I didn't remember the non hunch back guy being an asshole.
MagnorCriol
It’s been a while for me as well, I’m running off a general memory of “everything was basically the reverse,” and I’m far too lazy to check.
VideoGrimes
Disney turns shit stories into good stories. yeah I said it, fight me
trippingthelightfantastic
THE FROGMAN!
nipplepanties
Is an asshole
KingSwing
Oh no, really? I don't wanna ask... But... Whhhy...?
IMadeThisAccountForButts
Apparently he asked imgur to pay 10k because his photos were posted without sources or such
[deleted]
[deleted]
IMadeThisAccountForButts
I should have added that i dont think that it necessarily makes him an asshole. But yeah you are right.
drapester
Esmeralda was also written as a complete idiot in the book.
CyberJackalope
Disney ending's better. It simply asks "What makes a monster and what makes a man?" The answer being how they respect a woman's autonomy.
CyberJackalope
The book was pretty much just, "People are bastards."
GoodEveningThisIsWhatAButtDoesPBBPPBBTT
Frollo betrayed Esmeralda? Was he ever actually on her side? (Didn't read the book)
StanielRonathan
Frollo is the archdeacon in the book, Esmeralda was currently protected in his cathedral under the law of sanctuary. He violates that by-
StanielRonathan
handing her to king's soldiers, who were pursuing her for the attempted murder of Phoebus when she refuses his romantic/sexual advances.
StanielRonathan
The Disney movie reassigned Frollo as a malevolent but God-fearing judge and made the Archdeacon a distinct character
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Frollo is fascinating in the book, in the beginning he seems like a hero that saves Quasimodo's life. Then by the end...
sightsignificant
@ButWhyThough
ButWhyThough
Thanks babe......
sightsignificant
ButWhyThough
Do not mock me with Ms Paula
sightsignificant
reykjavikparadise
This is why I HATE Disney! they rewrite a story, own it for centuries under copyright law, then sell it back to you
johnzaku
Darkest part for me: Quasi (mute in the book) tries to show Esmerelda the difference between Phoebus and himself 1/?
johnzaku
So he take a beautiful vase and fills it with weeds, and a bucket and puts roses inside. 2/?
johnzaku
Esmerelda fuckin TAKES THE WEEDS AND HOLDS THEM TO HER CHEST DREAMILY. I was like what the fffFUCK, E? 3/3
johnzaku
Oh by the way, in the Phoebus was the one doing all the horrible stuff Frollo does in the movie.
theHitchenator
Bodies don’t turn to dust in 18 months...
Pootisborn
Maybe he had osteoporosis. And maybe THAT'S why his back was hunched.
theHitchenator
He would still have skin and some flesh at that point
TargaryenLoyalist
Next you’re gonna tell me that statues don’t talk!
theHitchenator
No that’s legit.
ZombieZooZombieZoo
Super acidic soil?
theHitchenator
No soil, corpse was in a vault
ZombieZooZombieZoo
beauchette
Disney changed *all* those stories. Not just this one.
tagmomg
To be fair for Hunchback in particular, a lot of people modified the story for adaptations, including the original author for the stage play
solitaryjedi
What was the original ending for "cars"?
ohdeepthought
Or toy story 3
howaboutnothankyouverymuch
They did make a very faithful short out of Hans Christian Anderson's "Little Matchstick Girl" a few years back.
Hellbino
My favorite grimms fairy tail is rumple stilskin where he rips himself in half with a golden floor
FutureHylian
Pocahontis is fucked up
ForestRed
Pocahontas is even worse!
FutureHylian
Mispelling her name is the least of her worries
spetcnaz
Little mermaid doesn't end happily either
CaptVito
Like how Elsa after learning to control her powers led a lightning campaign across Northern Europe creating the great northern empire.
Neorago
General rule about Disney movies: If you like the happy ending, do not look into the original story. Just be happy. Don't question it.
YesImkazuma
But that was a big thing with Walt, he wanted to rewrite the stories and give them an alternative happy end.
SlimPickins65
True facts. In the first chapter of Pinnochio, Gepeto kills Jiminy Cricket with a damn hammer.
BlueCat1
Just when you thought Pinocchio couldn’t get any darker...
tagmomg
Well achtually it was Pinno that threw the mallet and it's more like chapter 5-ish? Still, though, that talking cricket gets decked.
dontKnowDontCare87
Really wouldn't have minded that in the movie, tbh
McNastyShrooms
Not frozen though. That one is true.
MichaelAndersen88
They changed the Snow Queen into a good person. She was the villain in the original.
Pentacus
Apparently they changed it because Let It Go ended up being so upbeat. The lyrics take on a different tone when you know it's a villain song
Pentacus
"it's time to see what I can do, to test my limits and break through, no right no wrong no rules for me, I'm free!" Sounds pretty dark now.
LearnSomething
The little mermaid just kills herself in the end and the Prince marries someone else.
TinyLiehon
Hang on, in my version she was late by seconds and as the sun set she dissolved into the foam on the waves as her sisters watched
tzxAzrael
yea, that. instead of killing the prince, she stalls, hems and haws, and FINALLY decides she'll dive super deep in the ocean so the sun cant
tzxAzrael
touch her.... but meh, too late, the sun comes up while she's diving.
ohdeepthought
Well he was going to marry a woman based off how well she sung so I didn’t really expect Ariel to succeed in the Disney version.
ZebraCockSandwich
he was going to marry the princess he was betrothed to-who also happened to be the person who found him lying on the beach after the ship1/2
ZebraCockSandwich
wreak, so he believed that she was the woman who saved him as well. which he didn't know until the end, because he'd never met his betrothed
ohdeepthought
Eric wasn’t a sharp tack of a man. I mean his dog was smarter than he was.
ZebraCockSandwich
lol the movie made Eric out to be a little dull, yeah. in the book he just really seems to have no way of knowing.
TinyLiehon
In the Disney movie his wood was sharp though
Evenmorehorrifying
They had to, the original stories are hella dark!
BruceBannersButtplug
I understand why Disney changed the endings but I really wanna see one where they keep the dark ending instead.
Bigslungel
How did Mulan ended? Was she executed when they found out?
beauchette
Indeed they are, that's what's fun ^^
MrDeadsr
Yeah go bring ur 6 yar old to a movie showing the original ending
DelumStudios
There is a lot of ways to portray the story with directing/staging without unneccessary "gore", conveying the sadness of the characters.
Trustrup
The question is rather, are we cuddling our children now, or did all kids a 100+ years ago have traumas?
icecreamlorry
We've always been cuddling them I hope! But maybe now we're coddling them too :P
beauchette
Why would you adapt something not made for children, to children ?
MrDeadsr
Money? And they made lots of money by doing it.
ohdeepthought
Well yeah how else do you keep your kids in line? The messages were pretty important for the times.
Daervon
Well, perhaps if today's kids also grew up with the same stories, instead of Rugrats and Spongebob, they wouldn't be such assholes.
worldsGreatestDetectiveOne
Don't you drag Spongebob down with that Rugrats garbage. The early seasons were legit.
ohdeepthought
My dad used to read me history stories ... looking back I had such an amazing childhood.
Sitraka
dam kids in the old days must have been terrorised !
JasonThorn
They were. Heck, Tom and Jerry had a suicide cartoon, Merri Melodies occasionally killed characters. Saw quite a few of them growing up.
Sitraka
i mean ...even before ! Like those who heard the "real" stories, with pinochio killing Jiminy or Snow White being raped etc.
Sitraka
that could explain World Wars
SithariChaos
Is it a coincidence almost all our dark fairy tales come from Germany?
BlunderbussVigilante
"Then the owl swooped down and ripped the girl's face off. It's a German fairy tale." - ZeFrank
SirKhan
Nope because the only competition was danish.
squirrelrubbinghisnips
Good bedtime stories
MimaMaxima
They weren't meant as bedtime stories nor were they for children. They were supposed to be a lesson for adults. Like, behave or else...
PennyJaye
Aren’t most of them by the brothers GRIMM ? Clue is in the name?
lurkingcabbage
They came from a lot of places, the Grimms just compiled and (to avoid copyright strikes) slightly altered the stories.
GabrielRRL
Cinderella 10/10 original ending best ending
flzerocs
Dint the live action one had that ending and part with the slipper?
SwedishFlopper
Love cutting toes to fit into a wooden slipper.
Pentacus
Don't forget that her first act as Princess was to have her stepmother and sisters dance on hot coals until they die as birds eat their eyes
Equinox13
I thought that was Snow White and the evil queen.
Pentacus
It's both, though the queen has burning iron shoes instead of coals (which is fair, coals are cheaper and don't need to be custom made)