An outright ban is over the top, but I do think there are too many parents trying to push their kids to be trans when they're not. I live in Hollywood so I know all to well how often people will try to use their kids to virtue signal about the latest big trend.
Those fuck bags got completely owned out on Vancouver Island when I think six in total showed up and there was hundreds of counter protesters to them. I hope they feel like the idiots that they are, but that doesn't seem likely
As long as we're having frank and nuanced discussions about what constitutes gender affirming care. It needs science and experience and not political rhetoric. Sadly this is difficult because of cultural extremism. And people playing right into the hands of election cycle, corporate backed groups always trying to whip everyone up into a frenzy at the slightest suggestion of disagreement.
If you're more worried about a parent not being told something that they might decide to murder their own kid over than you are about protecting a kid's right to peacefully live as they please, then you might not actually care about kid's welfare...
The entire movement is a far right psyop meant to spread distrust of educators and education in general in order to produce a dumber, more conservative population. Notice how there isn't any specific grievance at these rallies, just incoherent aimless anger at a generalized (and small) group of people? Classic sign of fascism.
It’s a wedge issue to keep the base enraged and engaged. Gay marriage no longer packs a punch and is the law of the land so they have to move to the next out group to persecute.
It's always a lie. Like every time they object to books for "Sexual content" turns out it's really "Not treating the LGBTQIA+ with distain, actually mentioning they exist." Just like the recent book dustup and teacher firing.
Everything the right does is based in fear. They make citizens afraid of the government so they can destroy welfare programs. They make citizens afraid of each other so they can’t organize against the rich…
Welp, the liberals run cities seem to be the ones in poverty, high crime, homelessness, drugs and fear. Maybe if they used the money given to spend on social programs was actually spent on said programs and there were tangible benefits of spending that money. But, if California was a country, it would have the 5th largest economy in the world. It also is bankrupt and can afford its own spending, and it’s still a shit hole. You, and other liberals are delusional.
you said absolutely nothing, you realize that right? This is all assertion, all bias, I don't understand why you'd take the time to write all this, but not bother to tie it to reality. Guess you're just a lazy troll.
Red states have higher murder rates than blue states. Red states have higher poverty rates than blue states. And by county, you'll find this pattern holds true overall. Blue counties have higher grades and graduation rates, employment rates, and in fact, lower crime rates than red counties. For example, Chicago has a much lower crime rate than Danville, which is in a deeply red county that votes overwhelmingly republican. In short, you've been lied to.
(Also, studies all show masks work, and so do vaccines, which is why people in red voting counties die at higher rates from covid19 than those in blue states).
It never was about Parents Rights, is, or will ever be. It's about control, unscrupulous manipulation, pleasing their right wing donors and telling people what they should be angry about. Done with a sleight of hand and stealing the bread from under their noses.
Any mention of rights (of any kind) by the right is a deflection tactic. They leave it open so people think it's about whatever rights are important to them (the listeners), but it's really about everyone's right to do what they're told.
Fun fact: the VP of the Confederacy openly said, in a public speech, that it wasn't about states' rights, it was about the idea that Lincoln was wrong and all men are NOT created equal, that black people are naturally inferior and enslaving and mistreating them is what you're supposed to do. He admitted it was about slavery and white supremacy.
While insisting that states deserved the right to choose that kind of thing for themselves and the federal government shouldn't be able to tell them what to do.
When you get right down to it, that seems to be the major motivation for red states today. Making sure the federal government can't tell the states what to do.
Richmond, Virginia newspaper: "Our doctrine is this: WE ARE FIGHTING FOR INDEPENDENCE THAT OUR GREAT AND NECESSARY DOMESTIC INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY SHALL BE PRESERVED, and for the preservation of other institutions of which slavery is the groundwork."
Mississippi: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery—the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun.
Texas: "[I]n this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations"
It's not even a political issue anymore. It's a reality issue. One side lives in the real world and the other lives in a fantasy world of its own creation.
painkiller1968
"Keep your government hands outta my family!??" Are you asking a question or making loud statement?
RedJacketHero
An outright ban is over the top, but I do think there are too many parents trying to push their kids to be trans when they're not. I live in Hollywood so I know all to well how often people will try to use their kids to virtue signal about the latest big trend.
graehall
"Parent's rights" is nearly always cover/code for far right christofascism
SilverNicktail
"Parents' rights" should be treated just like "states' rights" - absolute fucking bullshit.
thatwoodguy
Those fuck bags got completely owned out on Vancouver Island when I think six in total showed up and there was hundreds of counter protesters to them. I hope they feel like the idiots that they are, but that doesn't seem likely
digitalagriculture
Pointing out lies and hypocrisy: truly kryptonite to Republicans, how will they ever recover?
GTimgur
As long as we're having frank and nuanced discussions about what constitutes gender affirming care. It needs science and experience and not political rhetoric. Sadly this is difficult because of cultural extremism. And people playing right into the hands of election cycle, corporate backed groups always trying to whip everyone up into a frenzy at the slightest suggestion of disagreement.
realrealluckless
If you're more worried about a parent not being told something that they might decide to murder their own kid over than you are about protecting a kid's right to peacefully live as they please, then you might not actually care about kid's welfare...
OaksParcel
The entire movement is a far right psyop meant to spread distrust of educators and education in general in order to produce a dumber, more conservative population. Notice how there isn't any specific grievance at these rallies, just incoherent aimless anger at a generalized (and small) group of people? Classic sign of fascism.
madjo
Just like it never was about state's rights, nor about the fetus' rights.
XXXSpork
It’s a wedge issue to keep the base enraged and engaged. Gay marriage no longer packs a punch and is the law of the land so they have to move to the next out group to persecute.
PoliticalWanderer
Shaodyn
And the Civil War was about states' rights. Question is (they hate this one): states' rights to do what?
Clockworkdancerobot
It's always a lie. Like every time they object to books for "Sexual content" turns out it's really "Not treating the LGBTQIA+ with distain, actually mentioning they exist." Just like the recent book dustup and teacher firing.
Govote
You can check your voter registration at https://vote.org
garpolky
Oh shit, thanks for reminding me. Apparently all vote by mail requests were cancelled in Florida.
NotAHugeSpider
Yeah, you have to re-register every year now I think. Both my dad and I already re-upped ours. Fuck DeSantis and the GQP.
Govote
Any time!
OneMoreLime
Everything the right does is based in fear. They make citizens afraid of the government so they can destroy welfare programs. They make citizens afraid of each other so they can’t organize against the rich…
jamieColorBandit
Yoss!
StankyPankySammich
Welp, the liberals run cities seem to be the ones in poverty, high crime, homelessness, drugs and fear. Maybe if they used the money given to spend on social programs was actually spent on said programs and there were tangible benefits of spending that money. But, if California was a country, it would have the 5th largest economy in the world. It also is bankrupt and can afford its own spending, and it’s still a shit hole. You, and other liberals are delusional.
thedudeman519
Citations needed
OneMoreLime
Wow you’re right all the cites are run by the left, I wonder why right wing politicians can’t hold office in populated areas?
LocalUnassumingGuy
you said absolutely nothing, you realize that right? This is all assertion, all bias, I don't understand why you'd take the time to write all this, but not bother to tie it to reality. Guess you're just a lazy troll.
OneMoreLime
I think they call it being triggered
Wolvenlight
Red states have higher murder rates than blue states. Red states have higher poverty rates than blue states. And by county, you'll find this pattern holds true overall. Blue counties have higher grades and graduation rates, employment rates, and in fact, lower crime rates than red counties. For example, Chicago has a much lower crime rate than Danville, which is in a deeply red county that votes overwhelmingly republican. In short, you've been lied to.
Wolvenlight
(Also, studies all show masks work, and so do vaccines, which is why people in red voting counties die at higher rates from covid19 than those in blue states).
Illithidbane
Lifesforliving
It never was about Parents Rights, is, or will ever be. It's about control, unscrupulous manipulation, pleasing their right wing donors and telling people what they should be angry about. Done with a sleight of hand and stealing the bread from under their noses.
DarkwingDuc
"Parents Rights" is the new "States Rights"
Illithidbane
States rights to do what? https://youtu.be/-ZB2ftCl2Vk
Shaodyn
Any mention of rights (of any kind) by the right is a deflection tactic. They leave it open so people think it's about whatever rights are important to them (the listeners), but it's really about everyone's right to do what they're told.
Shaodyn
For conservatives, that's how life is supposed to work. They (conservatives) tell other people what do to, and the other people do it.
EmeRgencyDrD
So, our owners.
Shaodyn
It's like having pets, and we're the pets.
InfocalypseRising
See also: “it’s not about slavery it’s about states’ rights”
ztygs
Just don't ask them states' rights to what..
ThankYouForYourTime
As well as: “It’s not about abortion it’s about states’ rights”
Spoofbot
"ok, then in my state its legal, so come on over" "no, they cant leave the state for that!"
Shaodyn
Fun fact: the VP of the Confederacy openly said, in a public speech, that it wasn't about states' rights, it was about the idea that Lincoln was wrong and all men are NOT created equal, that black people are naturally inferior and enslaving and mistreating them is what you're supposed to do. He admitted it was about slavery and white supremacy.
windsingr
CHECKMATE LINCOLNITES!!!
Sasurau
The Cornerstone speech, yup.
Shaodyn
And yet, despite this, people really believe states' rights had anything at all to do with the Civil War.
TheCrimsonFurry
They don't. I refuse to believe anyone actually believes it was states rights. Anyone who uses that as a point just wants slavery.
JoshuaHarazin
The confederate constitution also explicitly forbade any state or local laws banning slavery.
Shaodyn
While insisting that states deserved the right to choose that kind of thing for themselves and the federal government shouldn't be able to tell them what to do.
Shaodyn
When you get right down to it, that seems to be the major motivation for red states today. Making sure the federal government can't tell the states what to do.
JoshuaHarazin
Well, unless it's something they like.
Sasurau
Actually, I found a string of citations I used a few years back, I want to quote it all again. The reasons for secession, in their own words:
Sasurau
Florida: "At the South, and with our People of course, slavery is the element of all value, and a destruction of that destroys all that is property."
Sasurau
Richmond, Virginia newspaper: "Our doctrine is this: WE ARE FIGHTING FOR INDEPENDENCE THAT OUR GREAT AND NECESSARY DOMESTIC INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY SHALL BE PRESERVED, and for the preservation of other institutions of which slavery is the groundwork."
Sasurau
Louisiana: "The people of the slave holding States are bound together by the same necessity and determination to preserve African slavery."
InfocalypseRising
Commenting so I can find this later
Sasurau
Mississippi: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery—the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun.
Sasurau
These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. "
Sasurau
Texas: "[I]n this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations"
Shaodyn
Not a single mention of states' rights, you notice.
Sasurau
It was all about states rights, though. The states right to own people.
Illithidbane
Plus a bunch of Declarations of Causes of Secession from the Confederate States listed slavery as their number one motivation.
Shaodyn
And yet, even 160 years later, the "states' rights" lie is still being pushed.
Illithidbane
By the same side that lives in an alternate reality on every subject.
Shaodyn
It's not even a political issue anymore. It's a reality issue. One side lives in the real world and the other lives in a fantasy world of its own creation.