Feb 23, 2022 6:20 PM
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G0MeatCube
Don't be such a grammar ally
almostlivedying
I haven’t lol’d in awhile, but this. The format, the timely reference, the historical context, the precision. She’s a beaut mate.
Ayecantread
Well, follow the money and power. People aren't that afraid of plagues but war always does it...
EchoOfSnac
Germany in WWIII: "Wait, where's Italy?"The rest of the Allied Powers: "Oh, they'll be here soon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "
DontBringAShootyToAStabbyFight
Kinda surprising, I assumed we (the US) were going to be the baddies in WWIII.
eronth
The dream team (maybe)
Thekindofkindlyman
Iatesomecoffeecups
Second time.
suik
Italy's first side pick looks fine too this time...
fartharder
They've been with us since before reunification.
timmyg683000
Tbf the Holy roman empire, fought with England in the grand alliance against napoleon.
mycatsings
Wellington..."give me Blucher or night"
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
I have a weird feeling we won't be fighting with the Germans or the Brits...
NOINITIATIVE
History teaches us Germany is a BEAST in war; I like the idea of fighting with them rather than against them (Japan too.)
seriousbam
well, the world has to learn that world wars are a service we can't provide every time.
ace5762
The thing is, who exactly is Russia allied with? I think they have a non-aggression agreement with china but they're low on friends.
Nukes are probably the only reason they weren't steamrolled a long time ago.
Zickezacke
Germany figthing? With what? Our chief of staff just wrote in LinkedIn: We're caugth with our trousers down. It doesn't feel good.
KingXizor
The Germans fought with Allied forces at least one battle of WWII https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Castle_Itter
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BwfJsKfCnaM
Grimvarr
Out of all our European neighbours, I respect and admire modern Germany more than any other. One of the few true Paragon nations we have atm
Sleepingpanda1260
Tribut
Let's use the Schlieffen plan for the third time...
And this time keep the right wing strong
Correction.....LEFT wing
tg2222222
This is going to be the first world war with decent memes.
SidneyHarbor
There will be no war for the very reason Germany blocked Ukraine from joining NATO for the last two decades.
Rebar77
If you can't beat them, join them!
#extracommacrowd
Rendova
Boxer Rebellion (1900) group effort lead by the Brits. Russians on our side too. 55 Days in Peking (movie) with Charlton Heston.
OmaHans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rMbxmQmo94
martoktheavenger
Also the Battle of Castle Itter at the end of WWII, although I don't know if there were any British there, just Americans and French.
Fubb1ck
Not a world War though.
Duanebarry42
Feralkyn
I laughed far too hard, thanks
OliverClothesoff70
THAT'S A BINGO!
TheobromineAddict
If Russia reabsorbs Ukraine with no pushback from the West, that greenlights China to reabsorb Taiwan with no consequences.
We already know that's happening because the Chinese media accidentally leaked a memo with Russian media literally saying as much.
Source: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-editor-says-must-support-russia-ukraine-taiwan-future-2022-2
SuspiciousCactus
Excellent point, but please dont say reabsorb. That makes it sound like it has a sliver of credibility. Its conquer. Especially with Ukraine
Unfortunately, from the mindset of Russia and China, it's ”reabsorb", since neither recognizes the independance of Ukraine and Taiwan.
Dbrazy
Pls no more war ffs
Oh. Thanks. As soon as Putin sees your statement he will call his troops back.
There is no war involving US/EU. There's big talk, but not a single NATO member state will do anything but talk tough and complain.
True, and that is the concerning thing. Believe me you will arrive at the point where you wish NATO would have responded within 5 years.
CaspianReport on youtube has been making videos for years showing the reasons, history, and future. Most people just don't care.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Not the first! Battle of Castle Itter. One of the strangest battles of WWII.
ClawsOfTheWolf
An American Army captain, a Waffen SS officer & a German Army major defended French hostages from Nazis in an medieval Austrian castle....
Callistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Castle_Itter
charlieschocolatefactory
Sabaton ftw
ThaneofGlamis
Yeah I don’t understand how Hollywood hasn’t gotten their teeth into that one yet.
squirrelfartsy
They did: https://www.quora.com/Why-hasn-t-anyone-made-a-movie-of-The-Battle-for-Castle-Itter-a-k-a-The-strangest-battle-of-WW2
Never heard of it. Cool!
TrogdorTheBurniator
don't forget Operation Cowboy
Unwizzo
yes back when the fifth of may was just around the corner
OctaviusClausewitz
1945, the Führer's reign is at its end,
lappelduvideonfullblast
Jenny at the gates as the SS open fire ~~~ for corny power metal Sabaton moves me to tears way too easily, especially The Last Battle
ITS THE END OF THE LINE, OF THE FINAL JOURNEY, ENEMIES LEAVING THE PAST!
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Plasteredbeavers
AND ITS AMERICAN TROOPS AND THE GERMAN ARMY, JOINING TOGETHER AT LAST
pavoreal
Nah, the Germans fought with the allies on May 5th 1945 at Itter Castle
The Last Battle – The Strangest Fight of WWII: https://youtu.be/PX9y7z1qndQ
oopski3
Thanks
zFUBARz
How had I not heard of Sabaton History before?
scuba7jb
I thought Germany was sitting on the sidelines...?
eightyearplan
I wonder if they could play a game of.. musical chairs?- send defensive troops, police, nurses? to Nato country X.. so X could send more
of theirs to west ukraine so west could send more east.
FunctioningWorkaholic
HEY! We provided *helmets* for the Ukraine military!
Drefanator
Oh is that where they got the spike helmets with the skulls on them?
Yes we are on the sideline. And I fear we stay there until the russian tanks stand on our border. Than we cry for america for help.
It is shamefull.
Ticmea
I really don't get why everyone has been saying this. Delivering weapons is pretty much the only thing Germany hasn't done.
iirc they wouldn't even allow military transport aircraft through their territory
IIRC The Brits never even asked for passage instead electing to fly around Germany.
Germany is part of the reason Ukraine was never allowed to join NATO in the first place. Germany WANTS Ukraine to fall, and always has.
In what world would it benefit Germany to let Ukraine fall into Russian hands? Also why would it support Ukraine if it wants it to "fall"?
The world where Germany doesn't have to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine and can just let all the Ukrainians suffer instead.
You sound extremely deluded.
And Germany supports it because 35% of their natural gas comes from Russia. Russia is their #1 trade partner, they are economic BFFs.
TimbiquiDarkThirty
They weren't providing weapons or selling weapons to Ukraine. However they supplied medical supplies and body armor. They also pulled ns2
Hemelsblauw
Safety certification on North Stream 2 pipeline are postponed. This way it can't be used.
DarkUranium
ns2?
Natursekt
Calicious
Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline from Russia to Germany's Baltic coast.
AllIWantIsADogAndFunnyStuff
The pipeline
national socialism 2
fishmaceins
A somewhat inappropriate abbreviation...
Don't think anyone wants Germany to pull a ns2
PSMouse
Natural Selection 2
TurdBurglar3000
Beat me to it. Now there's something you don't see every day, thank God.
sevenfingerman
I have to admit, I was shocked when the Jerries suspended the Nordstream 2 pipeline. I never thought that they would get that serious
Argon18
People won't need gas if their towns are destroyed
DukePhelan
I mean they just refused to certify it for activation. The pipeline is and will remain there as far as I have been able to tell.
ShadeEmberi
suspended, makes me think as soon as we are not looking all will be forgiven
mmartin762
lmao "the jerries" Tally ho, old chap! pip pip and the like! We'll lick them next time!
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Meanwhile Boris Johnson is too scared to piss off his bosses
hotaru251
Germany is actually doing pretty well on ethics and making it a better nation. So it isnt shocking they'd react that way to me.
ilyasInternetSmuggler
The Germans have had a functioning democracy for decades. Russia has never had one for more than a couple of years.
RetroSicotte
Suspended is weak. The move that would really show action is "Dismantled".
JustSomePersonThere
Wrong. Then you can’t dangle it over Putin as a reward for good behavior. Never give your enemies “nothing left to lose”. Ever.
patta8388
It's not a government owned pipeline, so only the process of the operating license has been put on hold
TheStealthHippopotamus
Shocked me too. I’d have bet the house they would have kept going
sverebom
I'd have been less surprised if Scholz had thrown himself in front of the pipeline yelling "Stop shooting at my pipeline!".
mmckee44
Germany is down to using only 4% of their energy needs from Russian natural gas. Alternative fuel sources are exploding there
BlueskydragonFX
If Germany is smart they build a bunch of geothermal energy plants on their super massive volcano. https://youtu.be/ILKeoTp8gOQ
cyrilzeta
cool video, but the way he pronounces German names gave me eye twitches. Well researched video, but why not look up names with sound??
DarkSock
mdamjan7
It will be replaced by LPG gas from fracking. So yay!
I mean, hopefully they’ll start restarting nuclear power plants.
astralfields
Impossible. The narrative against nuclear power is WAY too strong in Germany. They got people believing they don't want it so they could →
→ keep the coal industry afloat for a longer time (especially lignite which is a particularly hot topic).
I wish, but as a German I am very confident that that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
lllpdrlll
Was it operational? Pretty sure it's not been used yet atleast.
It's completed but non-operational because they haven't finished all the testing. "Suspended" might only be for 6 months for all we know.
That’s why I said suspended, it’s still be constructed.
It is constructed, it was just waiting on contracts to begin operation.
Cataphract01
It's construction is finished but it needed some final certification/audit which has been suspended by our govt.
ddd0
Germany has been protecting Russia in the EU for over 20 years now and it seems that has come to an end. That's why the sanctions 1/
proposed by the EU are "surprisingly strict". Because the other states were not opposed by Germany any more. 2/2
That and fact I think only nations actually supporting putin's agenda are pooh bear and Kim who both benefit most from it.
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
Even Pooh bear seems to be against his actions, if only publicly.
MrRandom314159
As someone who doesn't understand the economic underpinnings of other nations, is this a thing, a BIG thing, or a "Fuck...." big thing?
I'd a big thing. We currently pay around 40 Cents per kWh. Loading Nordstream 2 won't make things easier.
It's not even in use yet and they might just put it in use next year anyway. The pipeline itself is already complete.
It's a big deal in that it cost 11 billion euros to complete, but you are correct in that it's not necessarily a permanent stop. I'd also-
add that afaik Germany's still purchasing gas via the first pipeline.
Correct, which is further evidence that this will be noise and talk and then go away just like Crimea "went away" for Germany's politics.
AxelBeingCivil
Putin did in a day what environmentalists have been trying to do for years.
Lamplord
Oh that Putin! Such a good guy! A silly prankster as well, it's too bad Ukraine can't take a joke. Get a sense of humor, guys.
WhatzzSoup
Is this his alternative motives Putin and Greta are in mascopi
TA2019
Fox news left equivalent : "Putin the environmentalist further progresses the healing of the earth!"
Letmelookatpictures
That's funny, pretending any of them care about healing the earth. All they see is something to develop/exploit for $$$
GrandPubabofMoldistan
Ecoglasnost 2, Putin the Environment 1st
ScrapCode
Next he'll cancel out global warming with nuclear winter what a great guy!
mouseasw
If legit wanted to ask at what point we would be better off throwing enough debris into the atmosphere to trigger a (non-nuclear) winter?
probably soon the cascade effects are already kicking in the question is how and how much? Volcanos have triggered "Mini ice ages" b4
DarkRedCape
Germany is arguably the most powerful country in the EU and Europe, it’s good they have gone in strong. Hopefully others will follow.
PhenTsoksar
Ja.. No one suspects a strong Germany. Now... get me a bier, a bratwurst, und the Rheinland. We have much to do.
I'm genuinely shocked at the decision. Yes, there's still pipeline 1; they're still buying gas. But I *live* here and I was sadly talking
about how disappointed I was that they weren't taking any form of stance or sanctions, then I got home and saw the news. SO pleased.
VladThePoker
The morons decommissioned their nuclear plants, now they are extremely dependent on Russia for energy. Morons.
EvilMadMonk
France has enough to power other countries as well but they have half of them turned off, just need to flip a switch.
smoothanubis
Public support and demand after Fukushima. Bit too hastily decided at the time, but followed the political climate at the time.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Not sure why you are being downvoted you are %100 correct.
Legrooveth
Arguably might be underselling it, but otherwise yes
Germany and the UK are both powerful. Germany has the money and industrial power, UK has tech, finance and trade. I’d still put Germany #1.
ncompai
Well, UK is not in the EU so this girl/guy's point stands.
My original comment said the EU, and Europe. Pretty sure the UK is still part of Europe.
1tobisnow1
In case of GDP yes. Our military is absolut shit.
OneFinalEffortIsAllThatRemains
For now…. I’m sure Moltke will rise from the grave and get you guys moving again
Yozza11
There are two good reasons for that…
U are absolutely right!!!!!!
Historically, yes, but Germany is no longer bound by WWII restrictions on its military. They have just chosen, oddly, not to invest in it.
Blundermore
German Leopard tanks are still the best on the planet with the South Korean black panther close behind.
fistthemwithfire
Nothing odd about that. Spend money on building a better society, not on waging war. Might as well lead by example.
Agreed. Germany has the money and the industry. The UK has the best military in Europe. It puzzles me why Germany’s military is still so bad
insaaanity
No need. We are surrounded by allies and our constitution forbids wars of aggression.
It's mostly due to a lot of bad investment decisions, money is wasted on all ends and improvements take ages.
My country, just like our military will eventually regulate itself to death.
DrPBizzle
Essentially after WW2 they didn’t have a big one, saved loads of money thought “this is quite good”, carried on
TjD1974
Nonsense after ww2 we had the second largest army in Nato. Only after reunification we reduced it to its current abysmal state
potshot
It really shouldn't, given Germany's history.
Why? Germany are no longer bound by any restrictions placed upon them after WWII. They could build a huge military force if they wanted to.
TheDuckofSpam
I wonder how the UK's military compares to the French one - I've heard the French military mentioned in relation to the crisis.
One of the differences is that the French tanks have 1 forward gear, and 5 reverse gears…. Incase the enemy attacks from the front ;)
UK and FR militaries each have differing needs but similar budget. So some areas one is better than the other, then opposite in others.
G0MeatCube
Don't be such a grammar ally
almostlivedying
I haven’t lol’d in awhile, but this. The format, the timely reference, the historical context, the precision. She’s a beaut mate.
Ayecantread
Well, follow the money and power. People aren't that afraid of plagues but war always does it...
EchoOfSnac
Germany in WWIII: "Wait, where's Italy?"
The rest of the Allied Powers: "Oh, they'll be here soon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "
DontBringAShootyToAStabbyFight
Kinda surprising, I assumed we (the US) were going to be the baddies in WWIII.
eronth
The dream team (maybe)
Thekindofkindlyman
Iatesomecoffeecups
Second time.
suik
Italy's first side pick looks fine too this time...
fartharder
They've been with us since before reunification.
timmyg683000
Tbf the Holy roman empire, fought with England in the grand alliance against napoleon.
mycatsings
Wellington..."give me Blucher or night"
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
I have a weird feeling we won't be fighting with the Germans or the Brits...
NOINITIATIVE
History teaches us Germany is a BEAST in war; I like the idea of fighting with them rather than against them (Japan too.)
seriousbam
well, the world has to learn that world wars are a service we can't provide every time.
ace5762
The thing is, who exactly is Russia allied with? I think they have a non-aggression agreement with china but they're low on friends.
ace5762
Nukes are probably the only reason they weren't steamrolled a long time ago.
Zickezacke
Germany figthing? With what? Our chief of staff just wrote in LinkedIn: We're caugth with our trousers down. It doesn't feel good.
KingXizor
The Germans fought with Allied forces at least one battle of WWII https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Castle_Itter
KingXizor
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BwfJsKfCnaM
Grimvarr
Out of all our European neighbours, I respect and admire modern Germany more than any other. One of the few true Paragon nations we have atm
Sleepingpanda1260
Tribut
Let's use the Schlieffen plan for the third time...
mycatsings
And this time keep the right wing strong
mycatsings
Correction.....LEFT wing
tg2222222
This is going to be the first world war with decent memes.
SidneyHarbor
There will be no war for the very reason Germany blocked Ukraine from joining NATO for the last two decades.
Rebar77
If you can't beat them, join them!
Rebar77
#extracommacrowd
Rendova
Boxer Rebellion (1900) group effort lead by the Brits. Russians on our side too. 55 Days in Peking (movie) with Charlton Heston.
OmaHans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rMbxmQmo94
martoktheavenger
Also the Battle of Castle Itter at the end of WWII, although I don't know if there were any British there, just Americans and French.
Fubb1ck
Not a world War though.
Duanebarry42
Feralkyn
I laughed far too hard, thanks
OliverClothesoff70
THAT'S A BINGO!
TheobromineAddict
If Russia reabsorbs Ukraine with no pushback from the West, that greenlights China to reabsorb Taiwan with no consequences.
SidneyHarbor
We already know that's happening because the Chinese media accidentally leaked a memo with Russian media literally saying as much.
SidneyHarbor
Source: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-editor-says-must-support-russia-ukraine-taiwan-future-2022-2
SuspiciousCactus
Excellent point, but please dont say reabsorb. That makes it sound like it has a sliver of credibility. Its conquer. Especially with Ukraine
TheobromineAddict
Unfortunately, from the mindset of Russia and China, it's ”reabsorb", since neither recognizes the independance of Ukraine and Taiwan.
Dbrazy
Pls no more war ffs
Zickezacke
Oh. Thanks. As soon as Putin sees your statement he will call his troops back.
SidneyHarbor
There is no war involving US/EU. There's big talk, but not a single NATO member state will do anything but talk tough and complain.
Zickezacke
True, and that is the concerning thing. Believe me you will arrive at the point where you wish NATO would have responded within 5 years.
SidneyHarbor
CaspianReport on youtube has been making videos for years showing the reasons, history, and future. Most people just don't care.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Not the first! Battle of Castle Itter. One of the strangest battles of WWII.
ClawsOfTheWolf
An American Army captain, a Waffen SS officer & a German Army major defended French hostages from Nazis in an medieval Austrian castle....
Callistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Castle_Itter
charlieschocolatefactory
Sabaton ftw
ThaneofGlamis
Yeah I don’t understand how Hollywood hasn’t gotten their teeth into that one yet.
squirrelfartsy
They did: https://www.quora.com/Why-hasn-t-anyone-made-a-movie-of-The-Battle-for-Castle-Itter-a-k-a-The-strangest-battle-of-WW2
ThaneofGlamis
Never heard of it. Cool!
TrogdorTheBurniator
don't forget Operation Cowboy
Unwizzo
yes back when the fifth of may was just around the corner
OctaviusClausewitz
1945, the Führer's reign is at its end,
lappelduvideonfullblast
Jenny at the gates as the SS open fire ~~~ for corny power metal Sabaton moves me to tears way too easily, especially The Last Battle
Iatesomecoffeecups
ITS THE END OF THE LINE, OF THE FINAL JOURNEY, ENEMIES LEAVING THE PAST!
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Plasteredbeavers
AND ITS AMERICAN TROOPS AND THE GERMAN ARMY, JOINING TOGETHER AT LAST
pavoreal
Nah, the Germans fought with the allies on May 5th 1945 at Itter Castle
ClawsOfTheWolf
The Last Battle – The Strangest Fight of WWII: https://youtu.be/PX9y7z1qndQ
oopski3
Thanks
zFUBARz
How had I not heard of Sabaton History before?
scuba7jb
I thought Germany was sitting on the sidelines...?
eightyearplan
I wonder if they could play a game of.. musical chairs?- send defensive troops, police, nurses? to Nato country X.. so X could send more
eightyearplan
of theirs to west ukraine so west could send more east.
FunctioningWorkaholic
HEY! We provided *helmets* for the Ukraine military!
Drefanator
Oh is that where they got the spike helmets with the skulls on them?
Zickezacke
Yes we are on the sideline. And I fear we stay there until the russian tanks stand on our border. Than we cry for america for help.
Zickezacke
It is shamefull.
Ticmea
I really don't get why everyone has been saying this. Delivering weapons is pretty much the only thing Germany hasn't done.
scuba7jb
iirc they wouldn't even allow military transport aircraft through their territory
Ticmea
IIRC The Brits never even asked for passage instead electing to fly around Germany.
SidneyHarbor
Germany is part of the reason Ukraine was never allowed to join NATO in the first place. Germany WANTS Ukraine to fall, and always has.
Ticmea
In what world would it benefit Germany to let Ukraine fall into Russian hands? Also why would it support Ukraine if it wants it to "fall"?
SidneyHarbor
The world where Germany doesn't have to fight a war with Russia over Ukraine and can just let all the Ukrainians suffer instead.
Ticmea
You sound extremely deluded.
SidneyHarbor
And Germany supports it because 35% of their natural gas comes from Russia. Russia is their #1 trade partner, they are economic BFFs.
TimbiquiDarkThirty
They weren't providing weapons or selling weapons to Ukraine. However they supplied medical supplies and body armor. They also pulled ns2
Hemelsblauw
Safety certification on North Stream 2 pipeline are postponed. This way it can't be used.
DarkUranium
ns2?
OmaHans
Natursekt
Calicious
Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline from Russia to Germany's Baltic coast.
AllIWantIsADogAndFunnyStuff
The pipeline
OmaHans
national socialism 2
fishmaceins
A somewhat inappropriate abbreviation...
fishmaceins
Don't think anyone wants Germany to pull a ns2
PSMouse
Natural Selection 2
TurdBurglar3000
Beat me to it. Now there's something you don't see every day, thank God.
sevenfingerman
I have to admit, I was shocked when the Jerries suspended the Nordstream 2 pipeline. I never thought that they would get that serious
Argon18
People won't need gas if their towns are destroyed
DukePhelan
I mean they just refused to certify it for activation. The pipeline is and will remain there as far as I have been able to tell.
ShadeEmberi
suspended, makes me think as soon as we are not looking all will be forgiven
mmartin762
lmao "the jerries" Tally ho, old chap! pip pip and the like! We'll lick them next time!
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Meanwhile Boris Johnson is too scared to piss off his bosses
hotaru251
Germany is actually doing pretty well on ethics and making it a better nation. So it isnt shocking they'd react that way to me.
ilyasInternetSmuggler
The Germans have had a functioning democracy for decades. Russia has never had one for more than a couple of years.
RetroSicotte
Suspended is weak. The move that would really show action is "Dismantled".
JustSomePersonThere
Wrong. Then you can’t dangle it over Putin as a reward for good behavior. Never give your enemies “nothing left to lose”. Ever.
patta8388
It's not a government owned pipeline, so only the process of the operating license has been put on hold
TheStealthHippopotamus
Shocked me too. I’d have bet the house they would have kept going
sverebom
I'd have been less surprised if Scholz had thrown himself in front of the pipeline yelling "Stop shooting at my pipeline!".
mmckee44
Germany is down to using only 4% of their energy needs from Russian natural gas. Alternative fuel sources are exploding there
BlueskydragonFX
If Germany is smart they build a bunch of geothermal energy plants on their super massive volcano. https://youtu.be/ILKeoTp8gOQ
cyrilzeta
cool video, but the way he pronounces German names gave me eye twitches. Well researched video, but why not look up names with sound??
DarkSock
mdamjan7
It will be replaced by LPG gas from fracking. So yay!
sevenfingerman
I mean, hopefully they’ll start restarting nuclear power plants.
astralfields
Impossible. The narrative against nuclear power is WAY too strong in Germany. They got people believing they don't want it so they could →
astralfields
→ keep the coal industry afloat for a longer time (especially lignite which is a particularly hot topic).
Ticmea
I wish, but as a German I am very confident that that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
lllpdrlll
Was it operational? Pretty sure it's not been used yet atleast.
SidneyHarbor
It's completed but non-operational because they haven't finished all the testing. "Suspended" might only be for 6 months for all we know.
sevenfingerman
That’s why I said suspended, it’s still be constructed.
RetroSicotte
It is constructed, it was just waiting on contracts to begin operation.
Cataphract01
It's construction is finished but it needed some final certification/audit which has been suspended by our govt.
ddd0
Germany has been protecting Russia in the EU for over 20 years now and it seems that has come to an end. That's why the sanctions 1/
ddd0
proposed by the EU are "surprisingly strict". Because the other states were not opposed by Germany any more. 2/2
hotaru251
That and fact I think only nations actually supporting putin's agenda are pooh bear and Kim who both benefit most from it.
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
Even Pooh bear seems to be against his actions, if only publicly.
MrRandom314159
As someone who doesn't understand the economic underpinnings of other nations, is this a thing, a BIG thing, or a "Fuck...." big thing?
sverebom
I'd a big thing. We currently pay around 40 Cents per kWh. Loading Nordstream 2 won't make things easier.
SidneyHarbor
It's not even in use yet and they might just put it in use next year anyway. The pipeline itself is already complete.
Feralkyn
It's a big deal in that it cost 11 billion euros to complete, but you are correct in that it's not necessarily a permanent stop. I'd also-
Feralkyn
add that afaik Germany's still purchasing gas via the first pipeline.
SidneyHarbor
Correct, which is further evidence that this will be noise and talk and then go away just like Crimea "went away" for Germany's politics.
AxelBeingCivil
Putin did in a day what environmentalists have been trying to do for years.
Lamplord
Oh that Putin! Such a good guy! A silly prankster as well, it's too bad Ukraine can't take a joke. Get a sense of humor, guys.
WhatzzSoup
Is this his alternative motives Putin and Greta are in mascopi
TA2019
Fox news left equivalent : "Putin the environmentalist further progresses the healing of the earth!"
Letmelookatpictures
That's funny, pretending any of them care about healing the earth. All they see is something to develop/exploit for $$$
GrandPubabofMoldistan
Ecoglasnost 2, Putin the Environment 1st
ScrapCode
Next he'll cancel out global warming with nuclear winter what a great guy!
mouseasw
If legit wanted to ask at what point we would be better off throwing enough debris into the atmosphere to trigger a (non-nuclear) winter?
ScrapCode
probably soon the cascade effects are already kicking in the question is how and how much? Volcanos have triggered "Mini ice ages" b4
DarkRedCape
Germany is arguably the most powerful country in the EU and Europe, it’s good they have gone in strong. Hopefully others will follow.
PhenTsoksar
Ja.. No one suspects a strong Germany. Now... get me a bier, a bratwurst, und the Rheinland. We have much to do.
Feralkyn
I'm genuinely shocked at the decision. Yes, there's still pipeline 1; they're still buying gas. But I *live* here and I was sadly talking
Feralkyn
about how disappointed I was that they weren't taking any form of stance or sanctions, then I got home and saw the news. SO pleased.
VladThePoker
The morons decommissioned their nuclear plants, now they are extremely dependent on Russia for energy. Morons.
EvilMadMonk
France has enough to power other countries as well but they have half of them turned off, just need to flip a switch.
smoothanubis
Public support and demand after Fukushima. Bit too hastily decided at the time, but followed the political climate at the time.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Not sure why you are being downvoted you are %100 correct.
Legrooveth
Arguably might be underselling it, but otherwise yes
DarkRedCape
Germany and the UK are both powerful. Germany has the money and industrial power, UK has tech, finance and trade. I’d still put Germany #1.
ncompai
Well, UK is not in the EU so this girl/guy's point stands.
DarkRedCape
My original comment said the EU, and Europe. Pretty sure the UK is still part of Europe.
1tobisnow1
In case of GDP yes. Our military is absolut shit.
OneFinalEffortIsAllThatRemains
For now…. I’m sure Moltke will rise from the grave and get you guys moving again
Yozza11
There are two good reasons for that…
1tobisnow1
U are absolutely right!!!!!!
DarkRedCape
Historically, yes, but Germany is no longer bound by WWII restrictions on its military. They have just chosen, oddly, not to invest in it.
Blundermore
German Leopard tanks are still the best on the planet with the South Korean black panther close behind.
fistthemwithfire
Nothing odd about that. Spend money on building a better society, not on waging war. Might as well lead by example.
DarkRedCape
Agreed. Germany has the money and the industry. The UK has the best military in Europe. It puzzles me why Germany’s military is still so bad
insaaanity
No need. We are surrounded by allies and our constitution forbids wars of aggression.
Cataphract01
It's mostly due to a lot of bad investment decisions, money is wasted on all ends and improvements take ages.
Cataphract01
My country, just like our military will eventually regulate itself to death.
DrPBizzle
Essentially after WW2 they didn’t have a big one, saved loads of money thought “this is quite good”, carried on
TjD1974
Nonsense after ww2 we had the second largest army in Nato. Only after reunification we reduced it to its current abysmal state
potshot
It really shouldn't, given Germany's history.
DarkRedCape
Why? Germany are no longer bound by any restrictions placed upon them after WWII. They could build a huge military force if they wanted to.
TheDuckofSpam
I wonder how the UK's military compares to the French one - I've heard the French military mentioned in relation to the crisis.
Yozza11
One of the differences is that the French tanks have 1 forward gear, and 5 reverse gears…. Incase the enemy attacks from the front ;)
RetroSicotte
UK and FR militaries each have differing needs but similar budget. So some areas one is better than the other, then opposite in others.