A bunch of old white men making calls on things they don't even remotely understand. US is going to follow in those foot-steps too. I just had Google, OUT OF THE BLUE, demand I give them a Credit Card or License. I'll be damned if they're getting my License, so Discover card it is. But the fact their "very intelligent system" thinks my account that is OVER 20 years old is a child is such a stupid excuse. Pardon me while I go figure out how to use TOR...
Can't wait for Labour to push this crap through just in time to hand the reigns over to Reform so they can use the thought police to deport anyone who doesn't say they hate Arabs every day like it's the UK version of the pledge of allegiance.
V for Vendetta was an awesome movie, possibly one of the coolest movies ever made about rights in Great Britain. Hugo Weaving deserves more regard than he gets.
But it's also very much a "For the Love of God, 𝘿𝙤𝙣❜𝙩 Create the Torment Nexus" situation that the current UK government seems to completely have missed the point of...
Oh no no no. THEY ABSOLUTELY GET THE POINT! And they're doing it BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM! IT GIVES THEM MORE CONTROL! IT GIVES THEM WAYS TO PUNISH PEOPLE!
We seem to be seeing that all over the place. So many governments are happily bragging that they created the Torment Nexus from that great book Don't Create the Torment Nexus.
It's funny you should mention it, because I just used a quote from it in response to someone saying that the Nepal Parliament building did nothing wrong in a post showing it burning down. I, too, loved that film, and also DON'T want the same situation to ever occur.
"A building is a symbol, as is the act of destroying it... with enough people, blowing up a building can change the world." From where I stand, I see what's happening there as no different than what happens in the film. The building itself may not have caused harm, but what it symbolizes is enough for the people to warrant its destruction in furtherance of positive change.
Awesome movie indeed. Only issue I have with it is that it made a bunch of people with no relevant historical knowledge for some reason assume that the real, historical Guy Fawkes was some heroic paragon of freedom and anti-monarchism.
In reality, he was a religious extremist who just wanted to switch to a Catholic monarch instead of the Protestant King James, and suppress and persecute non-Catholics even harder than Catholics were being persecuted at the time (and also hated the Scots).
He was also a bit thick, settling on the alias "John Johnson" for his illicit activities. Yes, good old John Johnson, an extremely human person known for doing Job at Place.
100% this. I had this conversation with a former friend years ago, and he was all like "Well you have to hand it to him for sticking to his principles" when in fact you do not have to do that?
Everyone sticks to their principles; that's no praise. They may simply not be honest about what those principles are, be it to themselves or to others.
"Sticking to principles" with shitty principles is like explaining shitty behaviour with "It is part of my personality" or the sentence "use your common sence" when used by a person who thinks it is common sence to hit your kids.
I had a former colleague who has “strong principles” and “stuck to them”, and basically had to be firewalled from working with anyone. He’s a Trumper now.
And just yesterday I got beat with the downvote bat for daring to ask why Marvel Studios would choose to move to the UK when they could have moved to so many other places...
..THIS IS WHY, everyone. This type of shit is why I asked why they chose the UK.
Yeah, the UK is America's abusive parent who is the sole reason their kid is so incredibly fucked up. The US has inherited everything from puritan hangups about sex, nudity, and "profane" language over racism and misogyny down to exploitative capitalism from Daddy Britain.
No, kid, the US is fucked up because of the people in the US. It's been long enough since we forms our own nation that the problems we have are our own. It's ridiculous to pretend that we had no agency during that time. It's pathetic to pretend we didn't change at all. It's naive to imagine that this was an external influence. The US went to shit because the internal forces trying to make it shit won out. Trying to blame the UK for it is like trying to blame video games, or music. Grow up.
Why would *insert evil corporation* move to a country that initiates dystopian laws that could only favour evil corporations at the cost of their employees rights? Hmm... I have absolutely no idea. Such mysteries man was not meant to answer.
Marvel is owned by Disney. I don't think it's unreasonable to call Disney evil. Also I quite like Marvel movies, and finally and probably most importantly all large corporations, without exception, are evil. It varies in degree but still.
They either die young enough to stay a Mom and Pop shop, or live long enough to become mechanically / bureaucratically evil.. it's convergent evolution or something..
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is evil? What about the corporation that runs all of the Paul Newman products, that gives all of its profits to charity, or other corporations that do the same with their profits?
yes all hierarchies are bad because they have avoidable negative externalities. yes all cops are bad even though some of them kiss babies. your objections are lame and boring
Meh - I just created an account on one of them. Didn't take long, and didn't need any personal information. Also the quality of the recommendations has gone way up. I say get in now before they start insisting on emails and other IDs
The last Labour government under Blair and Brown introduced a national ID card system and the Tories scrapped it the moment they got into power just as it was about to take effect. This isn't a new thing for Labour, except for the "digital" bit.
They're nothing like as mad as that - yet - although there are ongoing attempts by the Liz Truss faction to make the Tories a sort of cadet branch of the Republican party.
Politically the UK Conservative party is closer to US Democrats than to the GOP. It was a Tory PM who legalised gay marriage for example. In the last Parliament the Tories had the most out gay MPs, and the only trans MP. They support the NHS, they went big on solar and wind power and issues like abortion and birth control aren't issues here. It helps that religion just isn't in politics as well.
Some of them do, but they underfunded it for years, and then there's the Daniel Hannon faction that actively want to kill it off and replace it with a US-style system.
Define "underfunded". Since they were elected in 2010 NHS funding increased year on year, even after inflation. When Boris won in 2019 he passed a NHS funding bill that gave them an extra £33.9 billion a year. And then when covid hit he gave them more. And it was the then Tory health minister in 1944 that proposed creating the NHS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyjbUK88CB4
In the UK you now have to give ID websites like a scan of your passport or credit card to access what is considered adult materials (not just porn but things like self harm including sometimes resources to help stop). So its being mocked by calling it a wanking licence see the online safety act for more details.
florpglorp
Estonia has a good system dont they? Its just a poblickey private key dort of deal
RooGryphon
Wait this is NOT the us? Oh it's you guys... hay can you quit coping us and if your not....stop giving him ideas
Redshadow09
So, revolution when? Gullitone when?
aoshistark
A bunch of old white men making calls on things they don't even remotely understand. US is going to follow in those foot-steps too. I just had Google, OUT OF THE BLUE, demand I give them a Credit Card or License. I'll be damned if they're getting my License, so Discover card it is. But the fact their "very intelligent system" thinks my account that is OVER 20 years old is a child is such a stupid excuse. Pardon me while I go figure out how to use TOR...
VictusVonGuyver
Old men who probably gave paid sex workers regularly. But criticize porn users.
aoshistark
No doubts there. John Oliver's experiment on Last Week Tonight was real funny when he tracked several sitting senators googling porn while in session.
iamthemanwithnoname
Can't wait for Labour to push this crap through just in time to hand the reigns over to Reform so they can use the thought police to deport anyone who doesn't say they hate Arabs every day like it's the UK version of the pledge of allegiance.
daguq
Starmer's Labour, The Tories, Reform = all the same goals.
iamthemanwithnoname
Some of the same goals for sure. But a few differences. Not enough to make me like Starmer but enough to make me hate the others more.
Justanotherittech
We slip futher still
sNadeine
Lol the New Text Document.txt hiding in there always makes me laugh.
RalphH
Yeah, but without the good (body)parts.
Linkboy9
We were promised flying cars and cool robot arms with our cyberpunk dystopia. Where's muh god damn flying car?!
LanceSackless
Probably my favorite joker tbh
Linkboy9
modus0
Eh, we're a bit light on the "cyberpunk" part.
thewiggins
we just have all the corpo bullshit
Sechran
V for Vendetta was an awesome movie, possibly one of the coolest movies ever made about rights in Great Britain. Hugo Weaving deserves more regard than he gets.
But it's also very much a "For the Love of God, 𝘿𝙤𝙣❜𝙩 Create the Torment Nexus" situation that the current UK government seems to completely have missed the point of...
CallMeCourierSix
Oh no no no. THEY ABSOLUTELY GET THE POINT! And they're doing it BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM! IT GIVES THEM MORE CONTROL! IT GIVES THEM WAYS TO PUNISH PEOPLE!
TheButtInButterfly
*pinch
Shaodyn
We seem to be seeing that all over the place. So many governments are happily bragging that they created the Torment Nexus from that great book Don't Create the Torment Nexus.
MaximilianShade
I prefer the sequel: "Shoot Them! Shoot Them Now Before They Plug You Into The Torment Nexus!"
Equens
Which is only possible because complicit gullibility like yours tends to label it as "missing the point" and not "entirely intentional and by design."
gonzar09
It's funny you should mention it, because I just used a quote from it in response to someone saying that the Nepal Parliament building did nothing wrong in a post showing it burning down. I, too, loved that film, and also DON'T want the same situation to ever occur.
FaeVikingPrincess
I mean, a building can do neither right or wrong. But the people who meet there and discuss ways to oppress you have done wrong.
gonzar09
"A building is a symbol, as is the act of destroying it... with enough people, blowing up a building can change the world." From where I stand, I see what's happening there as no different than what happens in the film. The building itself may not have caused harm, but what it symbolizes is enough for the people to warrant its destruction in furtherance of positive change.
FaeVikingPrincess
Yup. It's what the building represented. So the argument of "the building didn't do anything wrong" is a pointless argument
DatDarthCaedus
Awesome movie indeed. Only issue I have with it is that it made a bunch of people with no relevant historical knowledge for some reason assume that the real, historical Guy Fawkes was some heroic paragon of freedom and anti-monarchism.
In reality, he was a religious extremist who just wanted to switch to a Catholic monarch instead of the Protestant King James, and suppress and persecute non-Catholics even harder than Catholics were being persecuted at the time (and also hated the Scots).
FallingStar7669
He was also a bit thick, settling on the alias "John Johnson" for his illicit activities. Yes, good old John Johnson, an extremely human person known for doing Job at Place.
gonzar09
Oh, John Johnson.
WireWynaut
100% this. I had this conversation with a former friend years ago, and he was all like "Well you have to hand it to him for sticking to his principles" when in fact you do not have to do that?
Corrodias
Everyone sticks to their principles; that's no praise. They may simply not be honest about what those principles are, be it to themselves or to others.
nevercompromisenoteven
"Sticking to principles" with shitty principles is like explaining shitty behaviour with "It is part of my personality" or the sentence "use your common sence" when used by a person who thinks it is common sence to hit your kids.
AceJohnny
I had a former colleague who has “strong principles” and “stuck to them”, and basically had to be firewalled from working with anyone. He’s a Trumper now.
CitrusyGarlic
And just yesterday I got beat with the downvote bat for daring to ask why Marvel Studios would choose to move to the UK when they could have moved to so many other places...
..THIS IS WHY, everyone. This type of shit is why I asked why they chose the UK.
LoopStricken
Marvel is doing what now
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Yeah, the UK is America's abusive parent who is the sole reason their kid is so incredibly fucked up. The US has inherited everything from puritan hangups about sex, nudity, and "profane" language over racism and misogyny down to exploitative capitalism from Daddy Britain.
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fubizdaddie
No, kid, the US is fucked up because of the people in the US. It's been long enough since we forms our own nation that the problems we have are our own. It's ridiculous to pretend that we had no agency during that time. It's pathetic to pretend we didn't change at all. It's naive to imagine that this was an external influence. The US went to shit because the internal forces trying to make it shit won out. Trying to blame the UK for it is like trying to blame video games, or music. Grow up.
iamthemanwithnoname
Why would *insert evil corporation* move to a country that initiates dystopian laws that could only favour evil corporations at the cost of their employees rights? Hmm... I have absolutely no idea. Such mysteries man was not meant to answer.
CitrusyGarlic
Did I miss something? Because Marvel makes movies that you don't like, they're an evil corporation?
iamthemanwithnoname
Marvel is owned by Disney. I don't think it's unreasonable to call Disney evil. Also I quite like Marvel movies, and finally and probably most importantly all large corporations, without exception, are evil. It varies in degree but still.
CorneliaXaos
They either die young enough to stay a Mom and Pop shop, or live long enough to become mechanically / bureaucratically evil.. it's convergent evolution or something..
bekkayya
step 1: be a corporation | step 2: there is no step 2, the actions you took to achieve step 1 have made you evil
CitrusyGarlic
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is evil? What about the corporation that runs all of the Paul Newman products, that gives all of its profits to charity, or other corporations that do the same with their profits?
bekkayya
yes all hierarchies are bad because they have avoidable negative externalities. yes all cops are bad even though some of them kiss babies. your objections are lame and boring
topscienceb
This ID stuff is just because people are using VPNs to bypass the silly wanking licence they brought in.
DarthAndy
Meh - I just created an account on one of them. Didn't take long, and didn't need any personal information. Also the quality of the recommendations has gone way up.
I say get in now before they start insisting on emails and other IDs
topscienceb
Nah i write my own to be honest, just think the online safety act is dumb.
VibratingNipples
soon they will make VPN illegal.....
darkninja2992
There will probably be ways around that. You get annoying enough with laws and the smart people WILL find ways around, sometimes out of petty spite
MuffinProof
VVPPNN
Cornflakes91
VPVPN very private virtual privats network
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
"Oi! You got a permit for that wank?"
dontfloatmygoat
Yep (gestures vaguely)
MuffinProof
*wanks vaguely*
CarlBassett
The last Labour government under Blair and Brown introduced a national ID card system and the Tories scrapped it the moment they got into power just as it was about to take effect. This isn't a new thing for Labour, except for the "digital" bit.
ChloeRed
The last system I was told I would need 2 different IDs. Sort of defeats the purpose of an ID system, you'd think...
CycloneSP
I'm not well versed in the british political landscape, but I thought the tories were the the british equivalent to the american GOP
RoutemasterFlash
They're nothing like as mad as that - yet - although there are ongoing attempts by the Liz Truss faction to make the Tories a sort of cadet branch of the Republican party.
CarlBassett
Politically the UK Conservative party is closer to US Democrats than to the GOP. It was a Tory PM who legalised gay marriage for example. In the last Parliament the Tories had the most out gay MPs, and the only trans MP. They support the NHS, they went big on solar and wind power and issues like abortion and birth control aren't issues here. It helps that religion just isn't in politics as well.
RoutemasterFlash
I'm not sure "support the NHS" is entirely fair.
Some of them do, but they underfunded it for years, and then there's the Daniel Hannon faction that actively want to kill it off and replace it with a US-style system.
CarlBassett
Define "underfunded". Since they were elected in 2010 NHS funding increased year on year, even after inflation. When Boris won in 2019 he passed a NHS funding bill that gave them an extra £33.9 billion a year. And then when covid hit he gave them more. And it was the then Tory health minister in 1944 that proposed creating the NHS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyjbUK88CB4
whoisyourdaddy
Where do you live that wanking requires a license??
topscienceb
In the UK you now have to give ID websites like a scan of your passport or credit card to access what is considered adult materials (not just porn but things like self harm including sometimes resources to help stop). So its being mocked by calling it a wanking licence see the online safety act for more details.
whoisyourdaddy
Wow, so you give reproduceable identification information to a porn site.... what could possibly go wrong?
darkninja2992
The dumbest part is its less effective than just turning on parental controls, iirc
personwhoisaperson
Nah, it's a dumb part don't get me wrong, but the dumbest part is how it turns out so many people in the UK look exactly like Norman Reedus.
darkninja2992
Okay... that made me physically laugh. Take an upvote