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Just sayin
#politics
Sep 7, 2018 11:32 AM
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#politics
WittyUsername77
Yup.
lodger328
አዎን, በሀገር ውስጥ በተጠቃ ተላላፊ በሽታዎች ላይ ከላይ እና ከሁሉም በላይ ሔንሱን እንዲሞሉ እና የ Xmen ያስፈለገው ፍቅር እንዲሰጡት እኩል ከፍተኛ እምቅ ሊመጣ ይችላል. እኔ ትሁት ሆዳዊ ነኝ. ሁሉም ቆንጆዎች ሆኑ.
The2ndMortiestMortyFromC136
What??
mfizz1e
They're looking in the wrong place if they think senior staff wrote that..
ATLandNerdy
Didn't they narrow it down to 12?
ATLandNerdy
Yea, here it is https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/politics/trump-new-york-times-op-ed-suspects/index.html
BobLobLawOG
The kinds of people who enter HR are mediocre and like gossip and often wielding power over others. They can be used to your advantage.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I think it says all you need to know that he managed to piss of Canada.
SuchRelevantMuchRelate
We were pissed already when you voted the fucker in
Satanslittlechariotsoffailedpotential
Hell, more than half of the US was pissed when the rest voted him in.
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
I'm out of the loop here
Cataleast
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
myUsernameWasAlreadyTakenAndIHaveAcceptedMyFate
thx
slagathorstiffnips
When mgmt says you can come to them with any problem, don’t. They’ll mark you and make your life hell. Hence, the anonymous letter.
aptatlas
God either Shareblue is in overdrive or every lefty is chomping at the bit to post this. Probably the sixth one of these I’ve seen.
Cataleast
Don't bring us left-handed people into this! ;)
JediDavid
ItsJustACoincidence
Is this about that editorial opinion piece about Trump in NY times?
DinosaurTrousers
The Beeb think it's Pence https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45436245
SoulSukkur
i had no idea what the comments were going on about. then i saw the tag.
KanackyBiznasty
FalconPunchingHitler
Alright...I know I'm gonna regret asking, but...what happened?
PooPculture
Just read the news man.
rabiddutchman
Senior officials in the Trump administration have been taking steps to prevent him from taking actions that would harm the country.
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
Very bad New York Times Op Ed written by senior white house staff anonymously ripping donald.
FalconPunchingHitler
So what's with all the talk of treason?
Satanslittlechariotsoffailedpotential
Trumplethinskin thinks that insubordination means treason even though it doesn't come close to the legal definition.
kylefromterminator
why are they trying to find who wrote it instead of fixing the boss?
FreyaNicci
Trump wants Sessions to violate the 1st amendment and force the NYT to spill.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
No probs, just say it's not real and then get real fucking mad and yell at everyone so we know it definitely is, that'll solve it.
drakewarnock
NO YOU'RE FAKE NEWS
Idontneedrealfacts
No, I'M fake news
SolidShakeArt
We're all the fake news now
imgurdemocratcirclejerk
Ttarler
Making fun of democratic processes is really not a good show of citizenship, unless you live in a dictatorship.
yzark01
when will conservatives learn that comedy does not suit them
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Reality's liberal bias strikes again.
FuckYouAndYourHappiness
wtf if you think all of reality has liberal bias then what makes you think reality is wrong and you're right? pretty optimistic
TheGhostofElizabethShue
I think you've misunderstood my position.
DropKickHead
I would have hated either Hillary or Trump. Fuck partisanism in general.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
You don't have to like her, she was objectively the more capable, less cartoonishly corrupt choice.
DropKickHead
There's no "objective" to this. Hillary would say babies are nutritious if it would get her in office. So would Trump. Fuckem both.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
And it's not partisanship to say so. It's called being a fucking adult with a brain.
jlurosa
As a foreigner I must ask: have trump or political party lowered it's numbers (vote intention) since any scandal?
CoBr2
Trump’s numbers among his party have increased, but his party is losing members. Most recent polls had him less than 40% approval rate.
CoBr2
Out of the whole country, which is a lot lower than when he started
gayerthanacavscout
Not really. His support among moderates has lessened, but grown among conservatives. Midterm elections (Nov 2018) will be the biggest sign.
fandsor
Among Republicans, Trump has a 90% approval rating, but that's because whatever moderates were in the party are jumping ship.
Attaroo
Hard to track to a specific scandal, there's been so many. But less people self-identify as GOP these days, dropping about 7% since 2016
PiggyWobbles
no, because everything bad about him is "fake news" and only super right wing media tells the truth or something
SuspiciousCactus
This should worry all sides. The revelations of WH are scary but also that anyone can sabotage an elected president "for the greater good".
gablestout
Invoking the 25th Amendment still requires the VP, the majority of the cabinet, and both houses of congress to remove a sitting president
StormWingDelta
I get the funny feeling the founders didn't future proof this for some reason. O_o What happens if the VP and cabinet are also needing to go
gablestout
The cabinet can be fired by the President or impeached. The VP cannot be fired, but can be impeached
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
You know what's funny. The outrage isn't the possibility that members of the WH are working against POTUS but about the 'gutless editorial'.
pfsar
By “funny” you mean “sad”, right? Literally amazing that Trump is still married let alone still President.
butdontcallmeshirley
Always attack the credibility, never the content
Anonbowser
Well they are no doubt upset about the content but prefer to deflect to the “gutless” aspect to be relatable.
RedWizard56
What exactly happened?
Cataleast
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
mattadore
Why you gotta bring the waffle House into this?
Gimcra
Now I’m hungry.
purdhapley
Tiiimmmaayy
The only WH that matters
WhatYouMeanItAintReal
It’s not a Waffle House it’s a Waffle Home
DoctorEnsignCrusher
Hakuna matata
Otterhendrix
Not since Dad left. Now I have a new uncle every night.
wafflesandpuppies
I wish I could favorite comments
ThermoNuke
To be fair even Democrats have come out against the editorial.
NineColonels100
Correction, working against the will of the people. Trump was elected and the actions taken by this deep state operative are treasonous.
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NineColonels100
Could be a holdover.
FreyaNicci
Trump wasn't elected.
butdontcallmeshirley
NineColonels100
I like that one.
PiggyWobbles
"deep state operative" as in "guy who trump appointed and who subsequently realized he is a nut job"
Cataleast
If you're trying to get a message across, you could try not parroting what's being said by Trump and his campaign of nonsense buzzwords.
n080dy123
"Deep state operative"
NineColonels100
Haa good one.
BoredCreep
See, that's what upsets me. The author of the editorial is admitting to not doing their job.
PiggyWobbles
I agree. They should come out publicly, put a face behind the accusations, resign, and explain to the american public the danger
squirrelfury
Their job is to serve the country, not serve Donald Trump.
BoredCreep
Technically accurate, but they're not doing a good job of either.
squirrelfury
Curtailing Trump is very much a service to the country.
Imgazorpazorpfuckingfieldbitch
I'm furious that they have the power to remove him but won't because he enables them to pass conservative policies
fandsor
This right here. They're more concerned about passing their agenda than ending this nightmare.
mrsmeat
It’s almost as though the government is working for self preservation instead of for the people
ravnicrasol
It's no longer politics being a belief, it's politics being "a team"
Bushtronix
Pence would replace him so I don’t think that’s it. Pence would probably be more conservative.
Cataleast
At this point I'm really starting to think he'd be the lesser of two evils.
causality
Fine, at least he won't start World War 3.
bealtimint
Hm...absolute imbecile or homophobic super villain...I don’t know what’s worse,
fandsor
Pence has Trump-Russia shit all over him. He oversaw the transition team and hired Michael Flynn after all. He's not clean.
lopeardgaloot
Pence is a lap dog, he'll just do as he's told
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Right but trump is an actual moron. Pence, as much as I hate to admit, Can probably at least avoid pissing off Canada
Huevos
As someone who stands firmly with the LQBTQ community, I don't like Trump - but Pence actually scares me.
GlassSword
No, Canada is going to play ball despite what their PM might say; Mexico has already agreed to the terms of a new trade agreement and /1
GlassSword
It's in Canada's best interest to retain its lucrative trading with the American economy (despite how bad your opinion of America is). /2
failsafe
There is no deal with Mexico without Canada; that’s the way trilateral deals work.
CassiusPolybius
If they removed him they would still have Pence. They aren't 25-ing him to avoid pissing off his worshippers too much.
CassiusPolybius
Which does mean it's a coup of sorts, by my understanding.
rabiddutchman
A coup is specifically a violent seizure of power. This is Gov officials being put in a position where they have to uphold their oaths (1/2)
rabiddutchman
to the constitution and their obligations to the law and the wellbeing of the country without incurring the wrath of an unstable man (2/2)
Imgazorpazorpfuckingfieldbitch
Who cares? That's maybe 15% of the country. If a lunatic is running the nation into the ground and can be removed, he should be
apatheticantisocialite
trump has hijacked the republican voter base. any republican candidate who speaks out against trump loses reelection.
redbear1999
The best car is it was Trump who wrote it. Split personality Trump.
Scaramucci
What's really a bad sign is that no one is surprised.
AgolfHiller
And the worst part is that it's a petition
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I knew things were bad, but it sounds like they are literally holding Trump back from starting WWIII. Fuck.
PiggyWobbles
GOP reps coming out saying "Guys EVERYONE knows this, we just werent saying it because now hes gonna be even crazier"
AMBM2
The only surprising part is that someone in the White House can write a coherent message.
camn333
I like to think it's because he/she had more than 140 characters to work with.
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
More confirmation than revelation.
KillingTlme
That is the worst part. There are a few people who only care about their current retirement savings, and not their country's future.
Jusmar
Thanks Mr. the Mooch
DasUberTomCat
Hang on - arent you invloved somehow Anthony Scaramucci?
PiggyWobbles
the moooch
Scaramucci
I tried but they fired me too soon.
PiggyWobbles
Probably shouldn't have said Steve Bannon likes to suck his own cock
PissedoffParamedic
The worst sign is the brain dead GOP is gonna overwhelmingly vote for him in 2020, with chants of “lock her up” still going.
HaulinOats
I think it all depends on his opponent, I could see Biden destroying him but Sanders is saying he wants to run independent which will split
PiggyWobbles
Surely if we elect him in 2020 he'll finally expose the clinton's pedophile ring... or whatever vast conspiracy she's spearheading now
HoboStabWound
There are STILL many of Obama's people in the White House. Senator Schumer is STILL stopping Trump's replacement of them.
designedbyhumans
Well also during Obama's time none of the staffers left over from the bush era wrote to a fucking news paper about hiding things from him
DucksAreGood
The dude in the op ed clearly states that he's a conservative though.
themedici
Came for the "...but Obama", bad comment. Stayed for the lols
HoboStabWound
Except that it's true.
HoboStabWound
How do you know the article wasn't written by one of the Obama staffers still holding over?
themedici
*yawn*
AMBM2
I can narrow it down pretty far. How many people in the WH can write a coherent message? Can't be Pence, Sanders, Trump's speech writers...
Nordenfeldt
Actually, the oddsmaker favourite is Pence right now. The writer used one of his favourite terms.
AMBM2
I noticed that, but using an odd term like Loadstar seems a perfect way to distract attention. It be like if someone wrote 'bigly' to
AMBM2
implicate Trump.
japhtron
BerniBirke
DrVinnyBoomBotch
Mouthhug
That looks like a party I'd support.
alexjonesisagayfrog
Let’s be fair to them they’d probably do that and form a swastika
NotAHugeSpider
There's only three in the pic; they're gonna need two more to form Nazi Voltron.
ThatTransformersDude
Defender of the Master Race from the evils of humanity, and compassion
GreenYawgmoth
I just want everyone to look at this username, for it is a thing of beauty.
alexjonesisagayfrog
lowcaloriedarkness
"Accidentally".
alexjonesisagayfrog
O of course, because you know they’re very fine people
Alpinecrags
Listen, as a non-trump supporter, this sort of stuff is why the trump supporters came and voted out of spite.
squirrelfury
How were they made fun of in the first place if they didn't already support Trump's asinine platforms?
japhtron
redloki55
I know right? All the MAGAts just bitching and crying their snowflake eyes out...triggered for sure
CliffWestern
No they came out and voted for him because the same man who helped pick Nixon has declared war against all forms of media outside of right1
CliffWestern
wing propaganda.So you can chill it with that because I still remember being screamed at for being a traitor for being against the Iraq war.
CliffWestern
They were nasty and divisive and worst of all they didn't learn a fucking thing when they were proven wrong. So no, the republicans aren't 3
CliffWestern
voting that way because they feel like liberals are picking on them. If they want respect they need to show it. Otherwise they can fuck off.
PunyJuice
And they say the left can't handle jokes
eatmyjuicyturd2
Hahaha yes I’m sure that’s why t
FallingWithStyleSquirrel
What are we supposed to do? Say that they don't have their heads up their asses? That would make us liars.
TrueNorthernLights
Either 1) you're wrong and they voted for Trump because he made them feel safe in their rabid insanity, or 2) you're right and they chose-
TrueNorthernLights
- the leader of their country just because the thought it would upset others gave rhem a hard on. Either way they're shitty people.
rabiddutchman
It's a combination of both. They're wildly misinformed and out of touch, and "triggering the libtards" is a thing.
sumowoman
That's retarded, tho.
Raltsun
Look at the kind of people who support him, though. That just makes it sound even more plausible.
PotatoIsland
I mean have you met people? People do some pretty retarded shit every day.
kobrakaimf
Right, because the racist assholes wouldn't be that way if the libs were nice to them.
thesmelge
"I'm a racist shithole because you bastards keep calling me a racist! So I'm gonna be super racist to spite you" - Idiots
PhurbuMukpodom
WillTheFifth
"im gonna vote for the racist piece of shit for president, not because it's a good idea, but because it'll piss off the liberals"
PhurbuMukpodom
SMASPTP
I'm hoping it was Ivanka. Not likely, but it'd make me happy.
tiikuri
Well, Donald is making her rich. Why would she complain.
sowasvonsowas
Maybe she's tired of having to masturbate Daddy?
squirrelfury
How much money would you need to have sex with him?
rd1652
Can he even get it up at this point. Maybe he's got one of those Larry flint pumps?
squirrelfury
With his ego and his money, I doubt he doesn't have some sort of counter-measure.
tiikuri
That's a weird question. You do know Ivanka is the daughter? Not the wife.
Raltsun
You know Donald's talked about wanting to fuck her, right?
justherefortheshitposting
Have you not seen how he looks at, touches, and talks about her? He said he'd fuck her if she wasn't his daughter.
squirrelfury
50% of the time I get those two names mixed up. Or I could just make a joke about how he wants to have sex with his daughter.
tiikuri
Ok, but anyway, 300k would do it for me i guess.
skellington01
I hope it’s Pence
mt77932
I actually think it was him. He wants the job for himself.
skellington01
I’m ok with that. He’s worst than Trump with his opinions, but he doesn’t have the balls to much, and he won’t be re-elected.
vampirehedgehog
Plus, somehow I can't see Pence dismantling long-standing alliances or the very concept of a republic.
skellington01
Yeah, I mean, his opinions are the worst, but at least he’s not a complete narcissist who puts himself before the country
TheJmaN33
joker305th
Pence doesn't have the spine to do something like that.
Bolor3
Live in Indiana, can confirm
HeironymousLex
can confirm your confirmation
Arbitrarynamehere
It would be excellent drama if it was him, though. The use of the word "lodestar" is suspect.
Hekatombe
Reminds me of this: " To cover my tracks, I usually pay attention to other staffers’ idioms" https://nym.ag/2NsGWeG
SerenePrincess013
I kinda hope it's Sanders. Sarah or Bernie.
squirrelfury
If it did come out as Bernie, I don't think it would be taken as seriously as it should be.
labmonkey4life
Or Colonel
OverthoughtUnderedited
Has Stephen King published a novel this week? May have been a false flag, he definitely has means and motive. Lodestar is up his alley too.
OverthoughtUnderedited
The old false flag red herring combo, aka, the double switch em up, aka, the Original G Shyamalyan.
SerenePrincess013
Didn't he put a new book out just a couple months ago? Seems unlike him not to sign his name to one of his works, too.
RaptorJesus89
There's actually sone evidence to support that it's Pence. The letter uses the word "lodestar," which is an odd word Pence says quite a bit.
skellington01
Could be a red herring tho
RaptorJesus89
Could be. It'd be perfectly devious to intentionally and subtly imply Pence like that, and I wouldn't be disappointed if that were the case.
BisonMooseDuck
Can anyone say with certainty who is actually in charge and running the country?
ICarpeYourDiems
Apparently the guy who Trump is going to start WWIII with. The logic is dizzying.
Raltsun
Whom, exactly? You think KJU is running America?
smashpro1
Putin.
skellington01
Unfortunately it seems kinda true
javer80
The point of the checks-and-balances system is to ensure that no one is. (I mean that in a good way.)
snuffcarcass
Vlad.
PhurbuMukpodom
I dunno know but I sure wish the Illuminati would take the wheel again someday soon...
MurtBaclinBFI
Apple
BisonMooseDuck
Best answer by a mile.
ameriki
War Inc.
skellington01
The way the US govt was designed is to protect the republic from maniacs, it’s too robust to fall even with a guy like Trump in charge
MrKomisiripala
But he’s trying. Hoo boy is he trying
Imthedroidyouwerelookingfor
You sure about that?
skellington01
well this administration is the ultimate test... guess we’re gonna find out ;)
Rexli78
I’d find that a bit more comforting if one third of those checks was enabling Trump and fighting to make sure the other third will to.
PiggyWobbles
just be lucky trump is a moron. It is scary how quickly things could dissolve if he were actually competent
skellington01
I disagree. The day not mind a president I didn’t Br agree with, as long as he is smart enough to want what’s best for the country.
PiggyWobbles
if a president is intent on destroying democratic principles I prefer they do it poorly than do it well
skellington01
I don’t think he is, that’s giving him too much credit. He’s just narcissistic beyond reason.
damogen
A big part of that protection is impeachment... which the R's won't do because they can get away with anything while Trump is distracting
skellington01
Impeachment is a very small part of it actually.
Ginocide
No, it isn't. Impeachment has been used a grand total of twice and has never resulted in removing a president from office.
damogen
that is in no way relevant to my statement
Ginocide
Saying it's a "big part" of checks and balances despite having never been used successfully is false. There are many more important checks.
PiggyWobbles
Nixon resigning just in time to avoid impeachment kind of counts to me
BisonMooseDuck
True, sure. But it was also designed as a chain-of-command system that is currently at odds for some with the oath to the constitution.
BisonMooseDuck
Also electoral accountability.
skellington01
Not really, if you ignore semantics... the present dent has very limited power as it is, even without resistance in his own ranks.
skellington01
President*
Anonbowser
Present dent also works
Rip42
The oath is to support the constitution, not the president. Blame lies with the president if he cannot preside within its bounds.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Schrodinger's Editorial: its fake, but also Treason and should be punished
pfsar
“Enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC”.
BahamutBBob
I heard the NYT would have closed a long time ago if certain people didn't keep saying stupid shit.
palmo
I heard you're a big dumb idiot, but I actually have evidence because look and what you just wrote.
NickRivieraMD
perfection
BlackavarLion
Bwahahahaha. Is his presidency over yet?
orbitn
Check back in 2032
RedRyder0
He said he thinks its fakes but if it's real then its treason etc.
butdontcallmeshirley
It's fake, but they need to release the name of the fake, gutless traitor...
Dokramuh
You mean the anomoush traitor?
Cryolith
No, the anymnonmishsisash one.
redloki55
Trump is already well known, don't understand why people are missing that gutless traitor
ArmedWithANapkin
It shouldn't be treason to call out your "leaders" for being put of touch assholes while still doing what you can to work with them
ForgotMyOtherAcct
And it isn't, Trump just wants it to be
thedadwhobeatshiskidwithjumpercables
1/Not a trump fan but it is not right for an unelected official to undermine the elected president. Speech is fine but hiding paperwork and
thedadwhobeatshiskidwithjumpercables
2/Going against lawful orders is not. If the cabinet really feels he is unfit they should use the 25th amendment or if they think that wont
thedadwhobeatshiskidwithjumpercables
Work because of the mechanics of that procedure resign in mass.
graehall
I read a piece on what qualifies as treason from a justice editor at a main US media outlet - the editorial & book don't qualify as treason
ArmedWithANapkin
Do you have a source?
pgdave
Calling them out isn't treason, it's the things in the paper that are undercutting the (unfortunately) legally elected President that are.
burnertotrace
'Legally' elected.
pgdave
The electors got together, their vote was certified by the Senate. We have a shitty system, but according to the system it was legal.
burnertotrace
Including the blatant Russian influence? What about the massive amount of misdirection and lying? That legal as well?
butdontcallmeshirley
Insubordination is not treason
pgdave
Taking the powers of the President into your own hands as an unelected official isn't just insubordination.
Rip42
Treason is spelled out in the constitution exactly so the government couldn't make credible accusations like this.
butdontcallmeshirley
It is incredibly insubordinate, as insubordinate as you can get- I agree with that, but it is not treasonous
rd1652
Why is it treason?
NickRivieraMD
because Trump has confused his ego with the entire United States of America
isitmyturn
Treason doth never prosper. What's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Ask Trump
thefatlonelyjew
Because the words were hurtful, and Trump has a strict policy against saying hurtful words
pfsar
You know what’s treasonous? Violating your oath of office. As Donald Trump has done many, many times since becoming President.
jhawker27
Trump thinks anything critical of him (up to and including simply not clapping for him in a speech) is treason.
dasAchteck
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1037464177269514240
Dagordae
Because Trump doesn’t know what treason actually entails.
theirarefourlights
He’s gonna learn.
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
It's not.
HelpHelper
The editorial describes acts of treason. Not the editorial itself.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Depends on how you define it. One could argue that these actions are taken in the best interest of the nation.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Not that I care too much one way or the other. This whole story is just dumb
pgdave
It doesn't matter if it's in the best interests of the nation, it's someone deciding on their own what the interests are, instead of voters.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
Can't fault your logic. I don't have a side in this story, tbh. I hate Trump, but also doubt the truthfulness and legitimacy of the "source"
DefinitelyHungry
How so? Treason pretty much only applies to helping enemies during wartime. Unless we the people are the enemy of POTUS, I don't see treason
Wobbixx
Plus technically we aren't at war. Ignoring the fact that middle East.
CommunCreator
Conspiring with a foreign power to take control of the government, in peace or wartime, is absolutely treasonous.
rd1652
This was where I was going with this. It got way off track
Attaroo
There's a very definitive legal definition of treason. However, there's also the broader 'he betrayed us' concept of treason.
Attaroo
We weren't at war with the Soviet Union. They still executed the Rosenbergs.
pgdave
I may be a leftist who hates Trump, but deciding as an individual that you're going to take over the Presidency is a coup, and dangerous.
rd1652
It's cause they can only think of the damage to the party so they won't do what need to be done which is remove the pos
rd1652
This is damage control.
InevitableBadger
It's not a coup if it's the 25th Amendment, nor if it's impeachment. Sometimes a president has to go and there has to be procedure for that
Amythyst
No, it would still be a coup. Just a necessary one.
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
At this point, they *really* need to invoke the 25th and just get it done and over with.
Attaroo
Guys, the 25th is actually harder to remove a POTUS permanently than regular impeachment. It requires 2/3rds of both houses.
Attaroo
So unless the GOP gets an entirely new base, we are going to see President McDundernutts until 2020.
Attaroo
However, looks like a very sure bet that both houses of Congress and the Presidency go blue then. Trump may very well end up in jail,
TrueNorthernLights
When the POTUS's own lawyers claim he's not fit to stand trial, maybe a quiet, non aggressive coup is needed.
BlackHartMTB
Maybe invoke the 25th amendment and not have the optics of a coup.
pgdave
Maybe needed, but still dangerous and an existential threat to the nation. Like there might not *be* a US in 50 years cuz of shit like this.
BenderBendingRrrrrrodriguez
50? Try 2, when he loses reelection and incites violence
JJI7
I'm sorry, what was that? Not fit to stand trial?
TrueNorthernLights
That's what they said.
Sentay
A leader who can't lead and a group that won't follow. At this point why even bother, why not have a reelection or at least a compromise
Sentay
I well aware that these things won't happen but it would be nice if the political body was less retarded and crippled.
SomewhatOxygenated
What good would that do? He's just going to get reelected, and if he's taken off the ballot there will be a civil war
squirrelfury
Bring it on.
Satanslittlechariotsoffailedpotential
Staring to think another Civil War might be inevitable at this point. We fucked up after the last one and let the South
Satanslittlechariotsoffailedpotential
immediately start voting again so the "state's rights" people are still as numerous as ever.
Sentay
Do a mass reelection (anyone associated with the cause of said, is banned) there easy and unilateral
SomewhatOxygenated
How's that going to stop a civil war from breaking out? People already think that Trump is their last defence against the Deep state...
Sentay
Then let it break out, if purging (not killing just removing) the majority of the government doesn't do it then it seems to be inevitable
SomewhatOxygenated
Yay! I really look forward to getting killed by my gun-loving redneck neighbour
purdhapley
I’ve successfully avoided politics for about a month, and boy does it feel good. Curiosity is getting the best of me however. Sauce?
skellington01
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/06/us/politics/trump-pence-pompeo-anonymous-op-ed.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
alexjonesisagayfrog
As a point of genuine curiosity, your a straight white guy aren’t you?
thisisprocrastination
*you're
alexjonesisagayfrog
Yup
purdhapley
I am.
alexjonesisagayfrog
That’s probably why you could enjoy a break
EmailFail
Hence why you can enjoy a break.
purdhapley
Damn me and my white privilege! I guess I’ll get off my thrown and go oppress some other races.
EmailFail
*throne. Also, at least acknowledge that it's luxury we have. Y'know?
PoliticalWanderer
1) Basically, an anon editorial in the NY Times where someone who claimed to be an official in the Trump administration talked about how
javer80
Slight correction: yes, they claimed that position, and the paper has verified and confirmed their identity (though it is still secret).
ladybuglauren
Correct phrase is "unnamed". NYT knows exactly who wrote it.
javer80
Exactly.
PoliticalWanderer
2) basically everyone working the White House thinks Trump is crazy and will make a decision one minute and then make a decision going the
PoliticalWanderer
3) opposite way the next, and they have to work against him to keep the country running smoothly and not becoming more of a disaster.
Minnakht
That sounds about right for government workers anywhere, honestly.
PoliticalWanderer
4) Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
DelightfullyOdd
I like the last bit about ditching this stupid tribalism and working together.
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KartFnocker
past decade? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_(pamphlet)
javer80
There are still reporters in this world who vet their sources, you know.
tigerlilytoph
Feel free to challenge them on it, they made a page for that https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/reader-center/oped-questions.html
RedIronCrown
Protecting sources is a long standing tradition in journalism. Many won't talk if their identity isn't protected.
youcantproveit
Yes, it is. But you have no credibility if every one of your stories is an anonymous source, and widely refuted by the other individuals.
ladybuglauren
THEY KNOW WHO IT IS. ANONYMOUS DOESN'T MEAN THEY JUST ACCEPTED IT WITHOUT VERIFICATION.
youcantproveit
Right, the public is just supposed to accept unproven claims, and ignore that those spoken about are refuting them...that integrity tho