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FP edit: thanks for FP, send puppies I guess? And some sauce to the OG post: http://jelloapocalypse.tumblr.com/post/178780404442/so-i-got-called-into-jury-duty
SosigBakinEgsTost
What? I thought you don’t get paid for the first day! And I only got paid 25 a day!! None of this makes any sense!!!
themuttonisniceandlean
Yeah, you can't miss rehearsal if you're in a performance. If that's what it took to get out of it, that's what you would do.
Matrelith
Yeah, that still didn't happen.
CanadianLadyMoose
#1 https://youtu.be/oi-oSnGfRM4
Dahliaisahedgehog
I was on jury duty for 2 weeks while I was unemployed. it was awesome and great timing!
Rebar77
For those as curious as I was. O mio babbino caro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf-tjXevlyQ&ab_channel=BerlinerPhilharmoniker
nikknolte35
I got $10. Wtf.
TallDude
#1 Pretty certain the defendant isn't usually present when you select jurors.
ajpimpsalll
yeah. it's also bs. You can't just be like "i have a job!" and get excused. Imagine if a bodybuilder just went up there and flexed...
V65ozzie
50 BUCKS?! Around here they pay you 9 bucks a day....
somadicouldspitfire
Damn $50 for the day for nj federal?! County is only like $5 or $10 (can't remember only went 1x 9yrs ago)
SirBobby98121
Brava.
DWandRFaremyspiritbeings
I usually just say I could never "vote" guilty or not-guilty on the subject at hand and make up a story why. Works like a charm every time.
ZombiesAndZoos
While on jury duty, I was asked for my profession. Had to explain a running a zombie con to a full courtroom. The judge asked for tickets.
ZombiesAndZoos
I ended up serving. And then left tickets for the judge & both lawyers at Will Call of the con. (The defendant didn't want to go.)
notabotguyspleaseacceptmeeeee
I'm glad she showed the letter summoning her. As proof of a story that occurred after this.
ithinkmicearenice
$50 a day?! In next door Pennsylvania we only get $9!
Copenhagenman
Hate to be THAT guy... but what does this prove other than she attended jury?
xgrant2
Nothing, it still didn't happen
Terminology
Nothing. People are just naive. Speaking as a lawyer, the judge probably just asked for proof of the concert and that was it.
Panzer89
$50 a day!? That's a decent part-time job, I had to serve on a two week trial a few months ago and didn't even make $150!
LlamaLingo
Wait, if you do jury duty your salary isn't covered? So if it's a long trial you can get royally fucked? Are jurors protected from gettin
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fired because of their absence?
Peajayrawr
Protected from getting fired, yes. Salary isn't covered unless your company's policy is cool enough to pay during that time.
dieselpunk
Lost pay is the biggest reason why literally everyone hates jury duty.
LlamaLingo
If there's gonna be a jury, they should be compensated at least 80% imo
tibris
the one time I got called for jury duty, the guy was arrested for DUI, driving the wrong way down he highway, and crashing into a light pole
tibris
2) he claimed the 8 officers (with dash cams) were a conspiracy against him. he was not found innocent
scoobar
Should have just taken some glasses with eyes painted on the lenses
HelpfulCorn
Free HBO...Free Willy!
batalanah
So this girl can get excused for singing opera but I couldn’t get excused for having two jobs and needing money to live on? Okay.
RichCorinthian
Just tell them you can smell guilt. Then look at them. And sniff. And squint suspiciously
sinikettu
And then they all stood up and started clapping
TheTimeless
I mean, i would've
Sh4dowWalker96
r/nothingeverhappens
DIRIG0
voir dire is the process by which prospective jurors are questioned about backgrounds and biases before being chosen to sit on a jury
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DIRIG0
I believe to determine if they in fact do know someone who may have a bias against them. It boils down to having a fair and impartial jury.
testzero
I love when some r/thathappened fucknut gets the evidence slapped right in their face.
Terminology
You're very naive. A paper showing you were at the court proves nothing. A train ticket isn't evidence I danced with Obama on the train.
CyborgScribe
You should check out the nothing ever happens subreddit.
Rapiecage
what evidence? Paper only says they went there. COuld have been excused for lookign too cracky. No proof
sudokori
Actual court is horribly boring, so I can understand why judges like to have this stuff happen to them.
DickDastardly404
can confirm, mum was a lawyer, sat in courtrooms a lot as a kid. until she decided she didn't like that whole part of lawyering.
darkhalfbreed
Look eithee you get to watch someone emberress them selves to commit to the lie or you get a well done impromptu opera
TheBestRussian
And opera singers do sing with minor provocation. This guy sang to me in a stairwell without me even asking. Sooo loud.
BahamutBBob
A friend on facebook has been recording himself singing in the car so much lately, he started a facebook page specifically to post the vids.
bamblebimble
Did you tell him chill bro I still need my hearing for a few more years
TheBestRussian
I did actually
JudgementalMan
theater people in general. i actually now have a pet peeve of people breaking out into song mid conversation.
BahamutBBob
This is why I hate musicals. They take a 30 minute story and stretch it to 90 with all the extra singing.
ViolentlyOfferingBeerToSheep
tell them to stop trying to seduce you, their melodies are insufficient
Sionas
I was a reserve on a jury once for a traffic case that had gone on for years. They got it wrong. Pretty sad to see.
weeshful
i was very negatively affected by the wrong call i was part of...but then i saw the defendant on the street a year later and...
weeshful
... she said she'd been afraid of way worse happening, and she was happy with the result...
weeshful
... that had seemed so horribly against her, and I was finally able to move on
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
Who got what wrong?
fartalert
The judges I guess
Sionas
The jury. You know how after a trial you talk to a judge? He basically confirmed it, but nothing you can do.
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
Thanks for clarifying.
Naeaes
The "Y" got I.T. wrong. Crappy old laptops for public use, wrong toner for all the printers, unsecured Wi-Fi. The whole YMCA hates it.
Mycologics
Jury duty seems like such a strange concept to me. The lawyers can influence the jury. Sometimes with ease and innocent people get locked
barbarian818
I dunno about the US, but here in Canada the accused gets to choose a jury trial. And it's an aphorism with lawyers that a jury trial is the
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guilty man's best choice because you got a better chance of swaying 12 average people than one experienced judge.
TheS4ndm4n
They much rather influence the defendant. Threaten you with insane long jail time if you don't plead guilty. 1/2
TheS4ndm4n
Made possible by stacking charges and mandatory minimum sentences. 2/2
Mycologics
In the Netherlands it's just the judge and it's all open... except for special cases
broadstroke
What would qualify as a special case?
Mycologics
Childrape certain high profile cases aren't open for public etc. Family related. But most cases are open for public
doctorhat
We in America don't trust judges enough to be factfinder for everything.
StaticXster70
Of course, there's also the times that the horribly guilty get off nearly scott-free...lookin' at you, Brock Turner.
Lulabel73
He was found guilty though, it was the judge/system that didn’t punish him enough
Pegussu
The idea is that a corrupt judge can't totally steamroll people. You can, with some difficulty, get a bench trial in the US.
xplag
Bench trials are the default. A party has to ask for a jury trial.
BronzeLeaguePro
I remember some lawyer somewhere saying that if you were innocent, bench trials were better, because then you'd be stuck with just facts.
BronzeLeaguePro
I CANNOT remember where it was, but it was an interesting statement so it has stuck with me since.
DrKriegersClone
I suspect that highly depends on whether you're in a district with elected judges whose continued employment depends on posturing as 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ tough on crime via keeping their conviction and sentencing stats high to run reelection campaigns on.
BronzeLeaguePro
Possibly. I can only remember that it was a US-English text.
CanIGetAnyOfUCuntsADrink
Jury Duty is great. They literally pay you to judge a complete stranger. That’s like the American dream
EatsBees
I can get paid for? Here I've just been judging everyone I come into contact with, for free! Sign me the fuck up
causality
I enjoyed the feeling of actually participating in government when I had duty. Made me feel very citizen-y
Conflict
Pay you is an overstatement. When I got it they gave me $25 a day. I was there for 3 days. I lost over $800 in pay for $75 of pity
Goronhead
I don't get why people want to get out of jury duty. $50 a day is more than I make at my normal job.
Goronhead
And I wouldn't have to deal with asshole customers.
SoupCanMan
Catholics do it all the time. Nothing special.
garybear
They really don’t pay you that much, even if you’re working min you’re losing money, now imagine if you have a real job. It hurts the wallet
ShawnS4362
We get $15/day. Jury Duty sucks and you are on call for 6 MONTHS in my area.
r2linad2
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jetzzfan
Sitting in an air conditioned room judging people with my lunch paid for? That is the life.
MaggieB12
They pay $10 a day. Not even minimum wage.
Beanyoneyouwantcreateausernamedontstressyoucanchangeitanytime
If they paid even a fraction of what most people make, then it would be a little bit better.
ilovecake
What I’d get paid for a day of jury duty is less than my hourly rate. Fuck all of that.
nitwhitt
Lol could of just posted the meme you quoted word for word
SherMattLockSmith
Jury duty where I am doesn't pay shit, just mileage and like 5$/day.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
You can get out of it if you're the primary caregiver of kids. I got jury duty and since it was summer, i got out of it.
AwwYEE
Something that a lot of people do all day, every day anyway! Lol
MerlinZer0
They pay you shit to judge others... "Fuckin-a Debra, you ran from a car accident, and now I have to look at you sternly"
cheeseguy3412
Yes, but you aren't allowed to shoot them in the case of a guilty verdict, so not quite there yet.
sarcasmandgeneralloathing
No it’s a fucking joke.
SenorFatHand
Ya, if you make less than what they pay. I make $500 a day, I fucking hate jury duty.
keyonne
Yeah. I have benefits with work too so I got paid my regular wage to sit in a chair and judge people.
reversinatir
The place I work at will give you your hourly wage for jury duty done during your scheduled hours.
makingthingsthatareimportant
I wouldn't call it "pay"
XenosGuru
It literally is pay though, so you would be wrong...
BakaWakka
2 cents is a tip too.
XenosGuru
Repost.
thepacksurvives
I was on one for 3 months nearly 7 years ago. I can picture her crime scene photos as if I saw them today. I worry about her mom still.
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
There is a certain perfume that reminds me of the autopsy photos because the juror next to me was wearing it at the time.
thedevil
They pay you $40 dollars a day with no consideration for lost income or travel or circumstances. I almost got fucked by jury duty
ArdentSlacker
Depends on location. Milage was included when I was last up.
thedevil
I’m from NY but I travel for work. They were seriously gonna screw me over by not giving me an exemption.
4troll
Until you get seated in a jury against a mexican drug cartel or Hillary Clinton and you + your family commits suicide.
mialynneb
I was sitting on a slip and fall case that dragged for three days. The plaintiff pulled it before and her lawyers were dumb as shit. 1/
mialynneb
I got sick on day 2, ended up getting another juror sick, got food poisoning the last day and almost shit myself in the jury box. Good times
Quizz25S
Oh my God that's horrible.... and accurate.
SickSickIndividual
So you’re just quoting word for word something that was on the front page a few days ago...? Ok then
Waitihavesomething4this
I’ve always wanted jury duty but refuse to register to vote. I’m 30. Never been called on
QuizzicalToast1
Why don't you want to vote?
Waitihavesomething4this
I don’t care enough about politics on a local level to register to vote just for the presidential. I think if you register you should (1/2)
Waitihavesomething4this
Take that as a responsibility to be involved on all levels especially the small ones that really count. I don’t want that responsibility.
Waitihavesomething4this
Kinda like those people who opt to not have kids. It’s not for everyone but the option is there. The RIGHT to register is there
ZombiesAndZoos
Because it's pulled from voter records. Also you aren't allowed to complain about politics if you don't vote.
Waitihavesomething4this
I don’t complain about politics because I don vote. I do complain about irresponsible voters tho. Also I heard they were switching jury duty
ZombiesAndZoos
Oh, I've heard that too. Don't know if it's true, but it'd be nice. Especially here in GA with the ridiculous voter registration laws.
Waitihavesomething4this
Lol I’m in GA too which is why I heard that. Ridiculous laws? Like what
Waitihavesomething4this
To be pulled from license info and registration not voting registration anymore
Porecomesis
Wait, really? I looked at the "fee" and thought YOU were paying it. Thank goodness.
BigBeeOhBee
Well, now that you say that I'm surprised the government doesn't make you pay to serve.
BearBombs
Uhhh, compensation is $50 per day. That's like babysitting money... So a 2 week trial would net you $500? Talk about economic hardship.
SherMattLockSmith
Where I am it isn't even 50$/day, it is more like 5$/day
BearBombs
Did they at least give you meals? If not, that's basically taking food out of your mouth.
amoeba15
$11 a day here. Plus at the time I had jury duty the company I worked for paid you for an 8 hour shift for jury duty absence.
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llamalibrarian
They don't. I've done it twice; first time I was receptionist& missed 2 weeks of pay, the second time I had a municipal job& did get paid
equiraptor
In the US that's not true. US law does not require an employer to pay the employee during jury duty. Many choose to, but it's optional.
galaciel21
So true. None of my former employers paid for jury duty. I had to claim financial hardship because they only paid $5/day in my area
yellowjellybean
No they do not have to pay you.
AyAyRonn
There are many employers out there that don't pay you, and they don't have to. Most states have laws saying they can't penalize you 1/2
AyAyRonn
For serving (i.e. you got jury duty so you're fired), or they can't schedule you for a double shift after your jury day, but 2/3
AyAyRonn
(in VA at least) pay for time you weren't working for your employer, even if it's because you're in a courtroom, isn't required by law. 3/3
thetain
It’s less than I make by 50-70$, but easier by an overwhelming margin. For a week, I might be tempted. 2 weeks, not so much.
tallquasi
Adults who earn more than minimum wage get more than that in an 8-hour day. It's the government demanding your time, and you take a pay cut.
XenosGuru
You also don’t have to do any actual work.
tallquasi
Except your bills don’t suddenly reduce because you’re earning less. Still have to eat, have power, water. It’s more than an inconvenience.
XenosGuru
Not if you are salary. Then you get paid regardless of if you went to work.
BakaWakka
What an "honor" to serve...
clutchthepearls
Yeah, but if you take some PTO, boom.
XenosGuru
Or if you have a salary. I get paid weather I work or not bitches!
clutchthepearls
I'm salaried too, but I still have to be there unless it's a sick day. 2 weeks would not count.
XenosGuru
Shitty. As long as my store is running properly I don’t necessarily have to be there. Especially if I was expected to be at jury duty.
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Still sacrificing your paid time off... Wouldn't you rather take a trip than jury duty?
clutchthepearls
I make about 8 hours every 2 week pay period. I have to take random days just to stay under the roll-over cap.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
I give it 10 years before you guys turn it into a reality tv show where the viewers can place bets.
ciditi
Let's just go straight to rehabilitation
JHawke
I love optimists, they always see the world through brighter glasses. https://www.bettingsites.org/legal-betting/
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kruug
10 is too generous. With the current trial by mob all the big cases get, I give it 2 or 3 years before networks pick it up.
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
What are you guys talking about? Jury duty has existed forever. They've already had more than ten years to do this. Won't happen
kruug
With how pervasive social media has become, especially with court cases, it wouldn’t be an illogical next step.
ibyaah
Speaking as someone who was voluntold for 2 juries...the disruption to life makes the whole deal kind of a wash...
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
Agree to disagree
Beezlebubble
My jury papers got lost in the mail for 6 months. Then I had a warrant out for me. When I got them I told them and how I had a new address.
Beezlebubble
New papers sent were for the old case...still going on...i didn't have to go. I was really curious to know what it was about
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Beezlebubble
Yes.
CodeChimpin
5 times here, 3 of which were meth cases.
DoggoPicsMakeMeHungry
My only time actually selected for the jury was a possession of meth case
MothMonsterMan
Were you found guilty on the meth cases or did you get off with probation?
NomadicPaladin
Man, and here I am wanting to do it at least once and never received a summons since I've been an adult.
Cthoniki
I’ve gotten like the registrations but I’ve never been chosen
broadstroke
Don’t do it (I mean if you can help it). I was on a rape murder case and saw pictures I never want to even think about again.
TeeDod
Same here
LuLuPennyAndOdium44
register to vote... you'll get selected
Lambdafish1
Wait, you get paid for jury duty in the US?? In the UK it's a legal obligation and you don't even get free parking at the courthouse
Xyolak
The uk can be dumb as shit. Got a parking ticket that was obviously wrong, contested, had to go to court 4 times. Wasn't compensated.
Xyolak
Should mention I won the case, had to take days off work to go. They refused to transfer to a closer court, had to travel 50 miles.
rouzuki
Uhg that sucks, I contested a parking ticket in NYC and they have an online court system. Just upload your evidence! It was frigging great
Xyolak
Wow, that sounds so much better. The ticket I was given was written out incorrectly, and was during a period of time that was free parking.
Kerrigan911
"paid" jury duty by me is like them buying you lunch
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
In Canada I think they pay your lunch. I didn't claim it when I went since my work was still paying me for the time.
TheN8
You get paid in the UK... Granted, it's peanuts, but you get paid nonetheless.
doctorhat
Peanuts in the US too. Less than minimum wage, I think. But some jobs will still pay your salary because attendance is required.
txtmylife
I got paid $12 for sitting half a day in a room with 20 other people, playing games on my phone, just to be told they wouldn't need me.
BronzeLeaguePro
Oh, you bitch about jury duty? We have conscription. That's a whole year.
ILike2TouchButts
Yeah but you also have to pay for health insurance here if you don't want to die of preventable shit...
Dahliaisahedgehog
It's $25 for appearing to your summons. If you serve on a case, you get breakfast and lunch and $50/day
goldfishcrackersbetweentheseats
It's a pittance, I promise
ILickAnimals
In my country there is no jury duty, you can apply to be one if you want to and get paid for every day of trial.
Cyanide2817
Which country do you live in?
ILickAnimals
Poland
nortotron
Tell us stories!
Dyslexicbirch
In Australia i believe they only pay for petrol money if you travel a bit
DontFeedMeAfterMidnight
A social worker friend of mine told me she was excused from our local court and she received a check for $12...she didn’t travel.
Dyslexicbirch
I was excused i didn't get anything the fuck
OldmanSerious
In SA at least, there's a per diem of about $20, and you can make a claim up to $135/day for lost pay (although my work paid me). + travel.
DontFeedMeAfterMidnight
I just had a bit of a search-http://www.courts.justice.nsw.gov.au/Pages/cats/jury_service/payment.aspx Interesting info!
loupgarou21
In my state it’s $20/day plus mileage reimbursement. It’s really more to cover driving and eating expenses
WelcomeToMagrathea
In the Netherlands jury duty is done by people who studied for it, also known as judges. They get paid.
Kelerain
...to clarify, you don't have a jury system?
WelcomeToMagrathea
Nope, not that I know of. There are usually multiple judges working one case tho.
Bergeldergle
It's just compensation for lost wages because we dont have the same social programs y'all do to help out. 50 a day is nothing to me, and
Bergeldergle
I work in fucking RETAIL. A 2-week trial on 50 a day would mean i'm missing out on almost a grand in pay from my job.
27yoUGLYvirgin
You get 2k a month net from a retail job? Wtf?
rouzuki
Aldi and Costco pay pretty well, so if he's pulling down 40 hour weeks at 13 an hour, that's 2k
Blubberpet
Gross, sure.
27yoUGLYvirgin
That's insane. That's more than I got for being a programmer.
DefenselessMime
You get paid in the UK too. https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/what-you-can-claim
Schuwatto
Only if you actually missed a working day for it... Recently had Jury Duty land on my days off, got paid nothing but the travel expenses.
DefenselessMime
Good point!
Lambdafish1
Wtf, I got none of that
DefenselessMime
You should have been given a claim form on the first day!
Deathwing777
Cyanide2817
They pay for your off time from work to make up for financial losses during the court case.
TheN8
In the UK it works out around min. wage. I would've lost over £700 in wages for a 2 week stint if not for an awesome employer that 1/2
TheN8
Allowed me to attend and still paid me my full wages. 2/2
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TheN8
They literally spell it out at least a dozen times. They tell you everything before you accept, then again literally every day you're there.
CISMaleScumLord
Yes they do, they send you all the info with the jury summons
mkyner
Remember 1776? You're free to join us...
AThreeFootTallChocolateMooseWithFudgeEyes
we seem to be having our own 1776. So we may end up doing that
RedDwarfIV
1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN!
justanothercarmechanic
Yea but I think it's like 20 or 30 a day. I was 19 when I got called I was all excited to participate, then I heard it was a murder trial
Hereismypassword
20??? I got paid $12.50 a day. This is some bull crap haha
VodkaReindeer
It says in the OP that it's 50.
TheN8
In the UK it works out to about the same as min. wage.
justanothercarmechanic
Which freaked me out, so I basically fibbed thier questions bc I didn't want to be responsible for imprisoning the man. I kinda regretted it
sporkwizrd
I got paid $12.50 a day.
IDontGiveASheet
Man, you missed out your real life 12 Angry Man.
Cyanide2817
You know it’s illegal to talk about your jury duty, as well as lie in court.
IWishPeopleWouldStopStealingMyUsernames
No it's not - only during the actual trial. After the trial Jurors are often interviewed on the news if it's a high profile case.
IWishPeopleWouldStopStealingMyUsernames
(That's the talking about your jury service of course - perjury is of course always a crime)
TheMadOnion
I mean it's very easy to get dismissed from jury duty without lying.
TheGuidoSailor
$50 a day in Monroe county Florida + $275 a night for hotels.
TheGuidoSailor
+ reimbursement for parking
fappingsloth
Do they pay for food also?! If so, not such a bad deal! ....if only they paid for the ppv-porn in the hotel also....
Threewisemen
They give you like $12 for each meal. $50 a day to sit quietly ALL day in court is shit pay.
27yoUGLYvirgin
WHat an idiotic thing to make a 19 year old a juror, wtf. Your brain doesn't even fully develop until 24, let alone yourlakcoflifeexperience
firetasteslikebacon
Usually, they don't select a young person as a juror because of that reason. They don't have enough life experience yet.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Not criticising you personally btw but the system.
vailthor
I somehow got called to jury duty at 17
Amesus
I read that as lack-of-coffee-experience :)
chloramphenicolderivative
I know they are on different scales, but that argument could also be used to raise the voting age to mid twenties.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Absofuckinglutely it should. In many countries it is now 16 because these CHILDREN are easy to manipulate. Voting should not be alloweduntil
27yoUGLYvirgin
20. You know nothing of life until around that age. You've spent your whole life in school until 18. It's crazy.