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cosinewave
Over and over again. Not the brightest bunch of people as it turns out.
person86
don't use C&H for your politics....
streptovsky
Watterson does not approve of the use of his comics for political purposes.
chaft
People say this like they don’t actually try to lol but sure pretend that because it doesn’t happen that it won’t
AeonQuasars
Though they fucking should do it. With so many stupid But thats a unpopular opinion.
RadicalLeftist
Oh im on board 100%. I can prove it all statistically that we should take any rapid fire weapon, restrict magazines and ban handguns.
HeyItsJP
Both parties shit on the 2A, albeit one more than the other. Not sure what part of "shall not be infringed" is hard to understand.
Ehilgy
But the right is just gonna claim “well they would have actually done it if we didn’t always fight for the 2A rights!!”
DarkSock
ThailandExpress
autodidacticcortex
In fairness, there are NINE federal gin control bills in play right now. The 2nd isn’t just for right wing nuts, folks. You may need it soon
Nunyajonesinc
The brady bill is the biggest piece of federal gun legislation ever passed. Instituted background checks and waiting periods. 100%
Republican sponsored and backed. It happened after two of their own were shot
UrbanNorthern
cheese4432
do you listen to the democrat party ever? They say that they want to ban/take guns all the time
Fractallergy
Gun control debate in the USA officially ended after Sandy Hook. Can't get things passed after kids get shot up, aint gonna happen now
travellis
Probably because they keep saying it to their base.
NoZedWord
Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the bills brought to committee in the house.
H.R 127. Based
kahless01
nah dont abuse C&H for political bullshit thank you
lordyhalvey
Too smart to take those vaccines also.
davesaint01930
Who would sully Calvin and hobbes with political shit?
georgedragonslayer
You needed a "/s" at the end of that sentence.
TheSecondPiewackit
I love being a liberal veteran gun owner. It blows their fucking minds.
The concept does, I should specify.
Rayplays
v
StephenDaniels
Yeah, but Beto did say 'elect me and I'm taking your guns' or words to that effect.
jimmythehat1
Direct quote from Trump "take the guns first, go through due process second."
heyGuysItsPete
"Hell yeah I'll take your AR15." Clinton passed the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. Biden asked for another. Harris is pro-confiscation.
gnochi
Harris as AG made sure all the cops were excepted from all the assault weapon laws.
Kaezz
Idk but I’ll never understand why people love guns so much
fear not, you aren't required to like guns.
Xenarion
It's cultural, I guess. Humans are strongly affected by the people around them, including in their tastes and hobbies.
Camelspotting
They go boom, also too many lone ranger/die hard movies.
5TUP1D
I don't understand why people love cars so much
maxximii
Yea, or houses. Like those should have common sense laws passed. No one should be able to walk in and buy a house, could kill a school.
alwaysupvotefuturama
MaryPupSkins
B99Reactions
Not gonna talk about the elephant in the room
soromon
dragonherder
I miss Carlin so so much. I wish he had lived to see the Trump presidency to just absolutely tear the fuck into him.
mobileimgurlags
Because the guns are something physical that can be taken back. Taking stuff he is already not seeing isnt a big concern
Flobmmando
I mean, it should be. Yet how can you miss what you've never had?
BitchButcher
Well, what about god? Aren't conservatives still very religious even though they never saw god?
Lysergian
LordofSandvich
"Religious..." Those that are actually religious usually fail to see how their political alignment and religion are at odds
e.g. somehow being unaware that the modern GOP is actively seeking to fuck over the poor for political gain
thekeyofe
So they're like infants with object-permanence issues. Got it.
Alwayshavebeen.jpeg
People that don't commit thought into alternatives. Or have had their thinking done for them. They just don't realize that the GOP is half /
and if the democrats would drop gun control they would get more votes
the reason they're struggling with poverty, or that their neighborhood is bad enough to justify owning a gun
RelartOfGivia
Gun manufacturers LOVE it
TylerTheAnarchist
As someone who works in the gun industry, yes we make way more money with democrats than republicans. Look up who the NRA actually sends $ 2
bonemealtrapdoor
Just because it didn't pass doesn't mean they didn't try.
Subsound
Did they?
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
HR127
This gets proposed every year?
I’m not the guy that said they propose stuff every year, completely separate comment my man, this is just an example
Okay, you replied to my question to him with this. I also take it you werent going on about banning guns?
Ironbunny
Literally every year
If I remember to get back to you when I get back from work in 12 hours I will.
That works for me
Suffice it to say, a variety of bills are introduced every years that are basically rebranded versions of the 1994 AWB
3006mv
Gun industry loves Democrats cuz they make more money when they are the current administration.
chloramphenicolderivative
Democrats must love guns too, or by now they'd have realized to just shut up.
Democrats do like guns quite a lot. Most of us want common sense gun laws and them kept out of the hands of individuals that are not fit
mentally to own a firearm.
InvictusXYZrwr
While I agree with the idea, I'm a little disturbed with the use of Calvin and Hobbes for this purpose.
Justalobstercowboy
Oh shut up
kristorial
C+H has been shamelessly stolen for a long time. Started with Calvin peeing on car brands on bumper stickers and devolved to this apparently
tzahtman
Should have been Bloom County
FredGarvinMP
Bill the Cat couldn't have said the line.
Ivegotathingforflowers
If you use guns as reason to vote for someone you don't have your priorities straight..
boostcreep
This.
MissSpelledTattoo
Yeah they did Calvin dirty here.
dlrobbins122
Yes. If think they would be independents
AstronautChicken
Right? This is still boomer humor just the flipped coin.
aquarobotix
Watterson never licensed C&H for anything, despite the obvious millions he would have raked in. Yeah, he’d be rightfully furious.
magi093
correction: watterson *very rarely* licensed C&H https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_with_Calvin_and_Hobbes
The more you know!
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
Lambast
Orzufancylad
Former President trump signed more gun laws that former President Obama.
It wasn’t for lack of trying. Mitch did his turtle thing. Obama was quoted as saying his biggest failure was not being able to pass any ...
Youhavinagiraffe
The number of laws signed doesn't sound like a great metric since individual laws can vary wildly in scope and effect
Lucky246
Because of all the shootings, each president is a victim of their time in office. Kind of like how trump was the first president to deal
With covid 19, it skews a lot of things inside people's heads to hear sentences like these that aren't actually false but misleading
Hevach
Reagan and both Bushes compared to Clinton also - a lot like the deficit, gun control moves in the opposite direction we're told to expect.
Kuhmeister
Is there a source for that?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/trump-administrations-bump-stock-ban-set-to-go-into-effect-tuesday.html
bluekestral
Just look at what bills they passed. Obama wanted it. Trump achieved it.
https://www.thoughtco.com/obama-gun-laws-passed-by-congress-3367595
Donku83
You think they're actually looking at numbers or even reading comments on a post they disagree with
That's completely false. Obama "signed" over 200, and passed about 20, most have ended for being unconstitutional. Trump was ~20 and 4
This is 100% false. Link to all 200 laws and EO's he signed involving firearms?
Source? Not disagreeing, but I’d like to read up on it.
venomlash
"Take the guns first, go through due process later."
mrgreen326
I hate calling him former president trump, can we at least call him former twice impeached president trump from now on?
fallingforboys
Twice impeached former president is more accurate
derzilly
I've been calling him "the last guy" because he really likes being called president.
I also rarely say his name. Most often I refer to him as Orange. Everyone still understands who I'm talking about.
JinxRocks
TWIT = Trump Was Impeached Twice :)
dronette
How about two-time popular vote loser Donald Trump?
How about 54 time loser
That sounds like he's still president, just not impeached.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
you can't be "formerly impeached", so "former" applies to the presidency not the impeachment
So twice impeached former president trump?
That does sound better.
Obama didn't sign any because congress didn't give him any. If he'd gotten one it would've been signed.
GenshiV
This. I hated the guy, but at least he banned bump stocks I guess. Not worth the rest of the shit he foisted on us, but it was SOMETHING.
Sure was soemthing he should've been impeached for. What he did was rewrite legislation, which the POTUS can't do.
MrAgrijag
It was nothing, that ban is completely superfluous
It was barely past a symbolic gesture; I didn't mean to imply it was anything more than that.
I dont even know if I would call it that, it was a knee jersey reaction to a tragic event, and people wanted something to blame
So they pressured the feds to ban something and they did, instead of trying to look into the root causes of the problem
ButterfaceTaintClown
yeah, because it was his base being shot at.
ParaBellumOutfitters
Being glad about a bump stock ban demonstrates how little you understand about firearms
I didn't say it was much of a win, just that it was a hair's width past a symbolic gesture, which is more than a lot of presidents do.
notkvothethebloodless
Even then tho I'm pretty sure he didnt know what it was or why it was a problem
Even a broken clock displays the right time twice a day.
Pretty much, yeah.
Slide fire stocks were literally only made for lulz they were impractical and not easy to use.
They were shit yeah. And anyone rocking one knew the ATF would “clarify” their standing on them eventually. Feature bans are still lame tho
Most def on both. We had a guy at my local range. His entire point of existence was turning russian ammo into noise with those at the range
Haven't seen him since the ban
When I see guys mag dumping at the range I just think “that’s a rich mofo”
daguq
He also didn't kick off any wars.
Barely. He pissed off a lot of people who have more patience than he ever has had.
Rediix
The implications of his presidency very much remain to be seen
Wobblestone
"Wow good job Mr. President, you didn't degrade foreign relations enough to add to the wars." - Guy who is in charge of setting lowest bar.
Yeah, the bar is low, but show me another recent president who didn't start a war.
Which wars did Clinton and Obama start?
It physically pains me that when it comes to the (former) President, these are the bars we have to set.
Not sure what you're saying. In my book, as much as I dislike Trump, not starting a war is pretty fucking major.
My point is that shouldn't be major. That should be an expectation of all presidents except in EXTREMELY rare cases where it's justified.
One of the very few things I give him credit for and something that really aggravates the nuts on the right.
AutumnalDreams
Because banning it is incredibly stupid. Just regulated and make people go through a process to get it.
What is the purpose of a bump stock?
They allow for easier bump firing semi-automatic weapons.
SilverHornet
Effectively makes a semi automatic weapon full auto, bypassing regulations.
dekket
And yet, they voted for him. Twice.
Because they don't *really* care. It is just something they can wave a flag at, much like blue lives, till they suddenly don't.
Exactly. It's not about ideals anymore (if ever), it's now a RELIGION instead. When politics becomes religion, democracy is in trouble
Dinos91
The people mad about the bump stocks need to either get better at shooting, or just admit the goal is to kill more people faster
Cthulhuonabike
Or they just want to experience full auto fire t the range without all the tax stamps and head ache. Auto fire does feel cool
That is such an idiotic belief, mate.
StarscreamAndHutch
Or pass the background check to be able to hold the license to own full auto weapons.
Mmmhmmm
NutRounder59
No license required to own pre 86 full auto guns. Just buy the gun and then fill out a ATF Form 4 and pay a $200 tax and wait for months.
trailerparkboyzbubbles
Regan first banned ar-15 style guns
miivollu
Thought this was Bush Sr. with his executive order banning semi-automatic rifle imports in 1989.
Not banning most types of rifles, just that imported rifles must have a "sporting purpose"
He banned automatic weapons nationally and open carry in California.
The second one because of the black panthers. Remember gun control is racist, always has been always will be.
TheGrayBox
Reagan also used a massive amount of executive orders and had the third highest rate of increase to the national debt.
no, Reagan closed the machine gun registry. Clinton banned AR15's
kerms
Not true. The act was in 1994.
DarkwingDuc
He also granted amnesty to about 3 million illegal immigrants.
brownribbon
And started the “Obamaphone” program.
Chainhealer
Reagan*
Ray gun*
getcrazywiththecheezewhiz
Ronald also helped change the healthcare system from non-profit to for profit.
gordy77
What do you need them for?
AxelBeingCivil
What do the police need them for? As long as the state is fielding them domestically, the public should have them too.
Kumonryu42
DEAD. ASS.
Wyrdbunny
They hold more ammo so people who target shoot or competition shoot don't have to reload as often. They can be used for hunting, usually 1/
Bullets. A pistol would be more easily concealed. Pistols cause more deaths than AR style rifles
Knives are used for more murders than all rifles. As are hands and fists. As are hammers. Pistols are about 30x rifles.
They are lighter to carry in the woods if you have to trek around after your kill. Easily customizable, lots of parts available for 2/
Rkhbusa
Shooting things
3/ hobbyists to "build" it how they want it. They have an ugly and undeserved reputation. One could get a pistol that holds the same # of 4/
perchingbird
I mean they are in the news a lot for not happy reasons
canadianreserve
Only in America. We had zero shootings with the AR15 in Canada and they banned them anyway. Vedy sad.
There was a shooting recently in Nova Scotia that used one
ArcadianXero
It's a hobby like anything else. Target shooting is fun as hell. So is collecting.
Guns are cool, I get it.
Xedi22
Me, a liberal gun owner? Skill and fun, mainly. Feral hog defense on the country land, 2nd. Potential home defense, 3rd...but doggo mainly.
We despise the ammosexuals though. And don’t hunt. (Feral/invasive hogs in Texas are a different story though.)
Seconded. Liberal gun owner and I live in the boonies. Bears, mountain lions, bobcats, etc. Also a shitload of militant Trumples.
For whatever the fuck I want. Why do you *need* a smartphone?
Honestly, mostly dungeons and dragons
[deleted]
Now you're implying I don't want Swiss labor laws, too.
You sold all your other rights so you can own a gun phallus. Congrats.
Thank you! *caresses my ghost AR15 tenderly and lovingly*
Mom the left is thinking about my dick again!
StatmanIbrahimovic
In case you didn't know, the AR in AR15 does not stand for assault rifle. It's made by a company called ARmalite
Conqueeftadore
Yeah! But the AR in ARmalite does actually stand for assault rifle
This is the definition of demonstrably false. If you really think that's true, go and find a credible source.
Holy fuck, I guess without the /s some of y’all really don’t recognize a clear joke. Not a good one, just a dumb statement. Lighten up ffs
No, it doesn't.
Whoa! You opened my eyes! All this time I was blind to this truth. Thank you for letting me and the other 6 upvoters how ignorant we’ve been
Newp.
Fuck really??!!! Wow, great catch. Just making a dumb statement never meant to be serious. Thanks for weighing in though. Geez.
KeredRednaxela
Assault Rifle malite?
You got it!
filben7
Ok but Biden does actually say he wants to take away a large amount of peoples guns.
Annnnd you prove OP’s point - and the Dunning Kruger theorum - at the same time!
Good, fuck em. You gun loving morkns keep shooting others, yourselves, selling to people who go on and shoot others or generally fuck it up
For everyone. You should have to spend weeks jumping through hoops to get a gun.
Imnotbehindyou
Well yes thats what @OP is saying so did Clinton, and also Obama.
Okay... so you agree its a real concern when the president says he wants to limit peoples rights. FYI, I voted for Biden because trump was
so much worse but its disingenuous to not hold politicians accountable for attacks(justified or not) on ANY right or freedom.
People have to wake up, just because nothing has been done about gun control for decades doesnt mean its not going to happen this time.
Kinda does
Oh i almost forgot /s
Yes especially since the people mentioned are the REAL problem ya know, i mean when has a republican lied or underhandedly stolen our rights
When did he say that? Genuine question.
SgtV3n0m
Take it you've never been to his campaign page: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/ Ban, ban, register, "buy backs", bans
buy backs are not taking guns. if people are stupid enough to wanna sell em so cheap let them.
SaintCody
The buybacks would be mandatory, with the alternative being registering them with the ATF for a ton of money and violation of rights.
keep drinking your kool aid chump. you dont believe in the 2A, if you did you would be fighting to get felons their guns back
Or destroying your firearms to make them unusable.
And more talks of him pushing for more bans: https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/biden-calls-gun-control-time-act-now
got any sources that arent right wing bullshit websites or you wanna post something from OAN now?
Ok. Set up the fireworks because I don't agree with that.
ClaudeKenny
He's enacting laws to mimic CA's policy of mandatory buybacks... from people who ILLEGALLY POSSESS FIREARMS.
No one is "taking your guns" unless you're prohibited from owning them in the first place. Stop pushing reactionist fearmongering.
TheOriginalAmberRose
Assault weapons.
IIikethecutofyourjib
Yeah, not people's fucking hunting rifles or personal pistols. Ffs these people right?
Snuffalybuns
Lots of people hunt with assault weapons. The AR15 is the most popular rifle in the US for a reason.
What part of statement wasnt correct?
Those are guns people own and Biden wants to take them away or make those people felons. Thats his policy position.
Zipbang
Stopping the production, sale, and trade of them is not "taking them from people". You just can't get any more.
If we want to get there eventually this is one of the first big steps.
Realistically the debate always comes down to capacity, not the gun itself. I think the result would be a ban on selling high capacity mags
Einherion
You mean normal capacity mags?
Sadly yes
Not to say that I think there isn’t a tangible limit that could be regulated, but in the past the numbers have been unrealistic.
The gun bans biden proposed are far broader than just capacity.
The definition of assault weapon in his proposal is inherently linked to magazine capacity.
Let me state the obvious: People don't need to have assault weapons.
Also "assault weapons"* needs definition as muskets used to be weapons of war and were the most advanced person weapon of their day.
It was defined in the assault weapons ban buddy. Whatever dumbfuck youtuber told you this line, shapiro, needs to read the bill
SerMorgenstern
Not having a need isn’t a reason to ban them to be fair
The reason needs to introduction.
Why not? The entire purpose of the second amendment was so the people out gun the government.
hardytardigrade
If that was the entire purpose, that's all it would say & all anyone would interpret it to mean. But the people don't outgun the govt anyway
MH9009
"outgun the government" huh? David sends his regards
Legacy4K
You'd be fighting a drone war with pistols and ARs you daft cunt
SomeDetroitGuy
The last four years have disproven that argument. When Trump ordered a police riot at Lafayette Square, where were the 2nd Amendment guys?
HolyCringeLordBatman
So just for definition's sake. I want to ask you, what is the difference between a Ruger mini-14 and an AR-15. Are you actually arguing that
A collapsable stock, and bayonet lug of all things somehow make the AR-15 more dangerous than a Mini-14?
cosinewave
Over and over again. Not the brightest bunch of people as it turns out.
person86
don't use C&H for your politics....
streptovsky
Watterson does not approve of the use of his comics for political purposes.
chaft
People say this like they don’t actually try to lol but sure pretend that because it doesn’t happen that it won’t
AeonQuasars
Though they fucking should do it. With so many stupid But thats a unpopular opinion.
RadicalLeftist
Oh im on board 100%. I can prove it all statistically that we should take any rapid fire weapon, restrict magazines and ban handguns.
HeyItsJP
Both parties shit on the 2A, albeit one more than the other. Not sure what part of "shall not be infringed" is hard to understand.
Ehilgy
But the right is just gonna claim “well they would have actually done it if we didn’t always fight for the 2A rights!!”
DarkSock
ThailandExpress
autodidacticcortex
In fairness, there are NINE federal gin control bills in play right now. The 2nd isn’t just for right wing nuts, folks. You may need it soon
Nunyajonesinc
The brady bill is the biggest piece of federal gun legislation ever passed. Instituted background checks and waiting periods. 100%
Nunyajonesinc
Republican sponsored and backed. It happened after two of their own were shot
UrbanNorthern
cheese4432
do you listen to the democrat party ever? They say that they want to ban/take guns all the time
Fractallergy
Gun control debate in the USA officially ended after Sandy Hook. Can't get things passed after kids get shot up, aint gonna happen now
travellis
Probably because they keep saying it to their base.
NoZedWord
Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the bills brought to committee in the house.
RadicalLeftist
H.R 127. Based
kahless01
nah dont abuse C&H for political bullshit thank you
lordyhalvey
Too smart to take those vaccines also.
davesaint01930
Who would sully Calvin and hobbes with political shit?
georgedragonslayer
You needed a "/s" at the end of that sentence.
TheSecondPiewackit
I love being a liberal veteran gun owner. It blows their fucking minds.
TheSecondPiewackit
The concept does, I should specify.
Rayplays
StephenDaniels
Yeah, but Beto did say 'elect me and I'm taking your guns' or words to that effect.
jimmythehat1
Direct quote from Trump "take the guns first, go through due process second."
heyGuysItsPete
"Hell yeah I'll take your AR15." Clinton passed the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. Biden asked for another. Harris is pro-confiscation.
gnochi
Harris as AG made sure all the cops were excepted from all the assault weapon laws.
Kaezz
Idk but I’ll never understand why people love guns so much
cheese4432
fear not, you aren't required to like guns.
Xenarion
It's cultural, I guess. Humans are strongly affected by the people around them, including in their tastes and hobbies.
Camelspotting
They go boom, also too many lone ranger/die hard movies.
5TUP1D
I don't understand why people love cars so much
maxximii
Yea, or houses. Like those should have common sense laws passed. No one should be able to walk in and buy a house, could kill a school.
alwaysupvotefuturama
MaryPupSkins
B99Reactions
Not gonna talk about the elephant in the room
soromon
dragonherder
I miss Carlin so so much. I wish he had lived to see the Trump presidency to just absolutely tear the fuck into him.
mobileimgurlags
Because the guns are something physical that can be taken back. Taking stuff he is already not seeing isnt a big concern
Flobmmando
I mean, it should be. Yet how can you miss what you've never had?
BitchButcher
Well, what about god? Aren't conservatives still very religious even though they never saw god?
Lysergian
LordofSandvich
"Religious..." Those that are actually religious usually fail to see how their political alignment and religion are at odds
LordofSandvich
e.g. somehow being unaware that the modern GOP is actively seeking to fuck over the poor for political gain
thekeyofe
So they're like infants with object-permanence issues. Got it.
mobileimgurlags
Alwayshavebeen.jpeg
LordofSandvich
People that don't commit thought into alternatives. Or have had their thinking done for them. They just don't realize that the GOP is half /
cheese4432
and if the democrats would drop gun control they would get more votes
LordofSandvich
the reason they're struggling with poverty, or that their neighborhood is bad enough to justify owning a gun
RelartOfGivia
Gun manufacturers LOVE it
TylerTheAnarchist
As someone who works in the gun industry, yes we make way more money with democrats than republicans. Look up who the NRA actually sends $ 2
bonemealtrapdoor
Just because it didn't pass doesn't mean they didn't try.
Subsound
Did they?
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
HR127
Subsound
This gets proposed every year?
ScrewMyVacationPlansIGuess
I’m not the guy that said they propose stuff every year, completely separate comment my man, this is just an example
Subsound
Okay, you replied to my question to him with this. I also take it you werent going on about banning guns?
Ironbunny
Literally every year
Subsound
Ironbunny
If I remember to get back to you when I get back from work in 12 hours I will.
Subsound
That works for me
Ironbunny
Suffice it to say, a variety of bills are introduced every years that are basically rebranded versions of the 1994 AWB
3006mv
Gun industry loves Democrats cuz they make more money when they are the current administration.
chloramphenicolderivative
Democrats must love guns too, or by now they'd have realized to just shut up.
dragonherder
Democrats do like guns quite a lot. Most of us want common sense gun laws and them kept out of the hands of individuals that are not fit
dragonherder
mentally to own a firearm.
InvictusXYZrwr
While I agree with the idea, I'm a little disturbed with the use of Calvin and Hobbes for this purpose.
Justalobstercowboy
Oh shut up
kristorial
C+H has been shamelessly stolen for a long time. Started with Calvin peeing on car brands on bumper stickers and devolved to this apparently
tzahtman
Should have been Bloom County
FredGarvinMP
Bill the Cat couldn't have said the line.
Ivegotathingforflowers
If you use guns as reason to vote for someone you don't have your priorities straight..
boostcreep
This.
MissSpelledTattoo
Yeah they did Calvin dirty here.
dlrobbins122
Yes. If think they would be independents
AstronautChicken
Right? This is still boomer humor just the flipped coin.
aquarobotix
Watterson never licensed C&H for anything, despite the obvious millions he would have raked in. Yeah, he’d be rightfully furious.
magi093
correction: watterson *very rarely* licensed C&H https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_with_Calvin_and_Hobbes
aquarobotix
The more you know!
JustDriftingAboutTheInterWebs
Lambast
Orzufancylad
Former President trump signed more gun laws that former President Obama.
autodidacticcortex
It wasn’t for lack of trying. Mitch did his turtle thing. Obama was quoted as saying his biggest failure was not being able to pass any ...
Youhavinagiraffe
The number of laws signed doesn't sound like a great metric since individual laws can vary wildly in scope and effect
Lucky246
Because of all the shootings, each president is a victim of their time in office. Kind of like how trump was the first president to deal
Lucky246
With covid 19, it skews a lot of things inside people's heads to hear sentences like these that aren't actually false but misleading
Hevach
Reagan and both Bushes compared to Clinton also - a lot like the deficit, gun control moves in the opposite direction we're told to expect.
Kuhmeister
Is there a source for that?
Orzufancylad
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/trump-administrations-bump-stock-ban-set-to-go-into-effect-tuesday.html
bluekestral
Just look at what bills they passed. Obama wanted it. Trump achieved it.
Orzufancylad
https://www.thoughtco.com/obama-gun-laws-passed-by-congress-3367595
Donku83
You think they're actually looking at numbers or even reading comments on a post they disagree with
maxximii
That's completely false. Obama "signed" over 200, and passed about 20, most have ended for being unconstitutional. Trump was ~20 and 4
Orzufancylad
This is 100% false. Link to all 200 laws and EO's he signed involving firearms?
boostcreep
Source? Not disagreeing, but I’d like to read up on it.
venomlash
"Take the guns first, go through due process later."
mrgreen326
I hate calling him former president trump, can we at least call him former twice impeached president trump from now on?
fallingforboys
Twice impeached former president is more accurate
derzilly
I've been calling him "the last guy" because he really likes being called president.
derzilly
I also rarely say his name. Most often I refer to him as Orange. Everyone still understands who I'm talking about.
JinxRocks
TWIT = Trump Was Impeached Twice :)
dronette
How about two-time popular vote loser Donald Trump?
mrgreen326
How about 54 time loser
Xenarion
That sounds like he's still president, just not impeached.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
you can't be "formerly impeached", so "former" applies to the presidency not the impeachment
mrgreen326
So twice impeached former president trump?
Xenarion
That does sound better.
cheese4432
Obama didn't sign any because congress didn't give him any. If he'd gotten one it would've been signed.
GenshiV
This. I hated the guy, but at least he banned bump stocks I guess. Not worth the rest of the shit he foisted on us, but it was SOMETHING.
cheese4432
Sure was soemthing he should've been impeached for. What he did was rewrite legislation, which the POTUS can't do.
MrAgrijag
It was nothing, that ban is completely superfluous
GenshiV
It was barely past a symbolic gesture; I didn't mean to imply it was anything more than that.
MrAgrijag
I dont even know if I would call it that, it was a knee jersey reaction to a tragic event, and people wanted something to blame
MrAgrijag
So they pressured the feds to ban something and they did, instead of trying to look into the root causes of the problem
ButterfaceTaintClown
yeah, because it was his base being shot at.
ParaBellumOutfitters
Being glad about a bump stock ban demonstrates how little you understand about firearms
GenshiV
I didn't say it was much of a win, just that it was a hair's width past a symbolic gesture, which is more than a lot of presidents do.
notkvothethebloodless
Even then tho I'm pretty sure he didnt know what it was or why it was a problem
Xenarion
Even a broken clock displays the right time twice a day.
GenshiV
Pretty much, yeah.
bluekestral
Slide fire stocks were literally only made for lulz they were impractical and not easy to use.
autodidacticcortex
They were shit yeah. And anyone rocking one knew the ATF would “clarify” their standing on them eventually. Feature bans are still lame tho
bluekestral
Most def on both. We had a guy at my local range. His entire point of existence was turning russian ammo into noise with those at the range
bluekestral
Haven't seen him since the ban
autodidacticcortex
When I see guys mag dumping at the range I just think “that’s a rich mofo”
daguq
He also didn't kick off any wars.
derzilly
Barely. He pissed off a lot of people who have more patience than he ever has had.
Rediix
The implications of his presidency very much remain to be seen
Wobblestone
"Wow good job Mr. President, you didn't degrade foreign relations enough to add to the wars." - Guy who is in charge of setting lowest bar.
daguq
Yeah, the bar is low, but show me another recent president who didn't start a war.
Wobblestone
Which wars did Clinton and Obama start?
GenshiV
daguq
Not sure what you're saying. In my book, as much as I dislike Trump, not starting a war is pretty fucking major.
GenshiV
My point is that shouldn't be major. That should be an expectation of all presidents except in EXTREMELY rare cases where it's justified.
Orzufancylad
One of the very few things I give him credit for and something that really aggravates the nuts on the right.
AutumnalDreams
Because banning it is incredibly stupid. Just regulated and make people go through a process to get it.
Orzufancylad
What is the purpose of a bump stock?
AutumnalDreams
They allow for easier bump firing semi-automatic weapons.
SilverHornet
Effectively makes a semi automatic weapon full auto, bypassing regulations.
dekket
And yet, they voted for him. Twice.
Orzufancylad
Because they don't *really* care. It is just something they can wave a flag at, much like blue lives, till they suddenly don't.
dekket
Exactly. It's not about ideals anymore (if ever), it's now a RELIGION instead. When politics becomes religion, democracy is in trouble
Dinos91
The people mad about the bump stocks need to either get better at shooting, or just admit the goal is to kill more people faster
Cthulhuonabike
Or they just want to experience full auto fire t the range without all the tax stamps and head ache. Auto fire does feel cool
AutumnalDreams
That is such an idiotic belief, mate.
StarscreamAndHutch
Or pass the background check to be able to hold the license to own full auto weapons.
Dinos91
Mmmhmmm
NutRounder59
No license required to own pre 86 full auto guns. Just buy the gun and then fill out a ATF Form 4 and pay a $200 tax and wait for months.
trailerparkboyzbubbles
Regan first banned ar-15 style guns
miivollu
Thought this was Bush Sr. with his executive order banning semi-automatic rifle imports in 1989.
cheese4432
Not banning most types of rifles, just that imported rifles must have a "sporting purpose"
TylerTheAnarchist
He banned automatic weapons nationally and open carry in California.
cheese4432
The second one because of the black panthers. Remember gun control is racist, always has been always will be.
TheGrayBox
Reagan also used a massive amount of executive orders and had the third highest rate of increase to the national debt.
cheese4432
no, Reagan closed the machine gun registry. Clinton banned AR15's
kerms
Not true. The act was in 1994.
DarkwingDuc
He also granted amnesty to about 3 million illegal immigrants.
brownribbon
And started the “Obamaphone” program.
Chainhealer
Reagan*
DarkwingDuc
Ray gun*
getcrazywiththecheezewhiz
Ronald also helped change the healthcare system from non-profit to for profit.
gordy77
What do you need them for?
AxelBeingCivil
What do the police need them for? As long as the state is fielding them domestically, the public should have them too.
Kumonryu42
DEAD. ASS.
Wyrdbunny
They hold more ammo so people who target shoot or competition shoot don't have to reload as often. They can be used for hunting, usually 1/
Wyrdbunny
Bullets. A pistol would be more easily concealed. Pistols cause more deaths than AR style rifles
gnochi
Knives are used for more murders than all rifles. As are hands and fists. As are hammers. Pistols are about 30x rifles.
Wyrdbunny
They are lighter to carry in the woods if you have to trek around after your kill. Easily customizable, lots of parts available for 2/
Rkhbusa
Shooting things
Wyrdbunny
3/ hobbyists to "build" it how they want it. They have an ugly and undeserved reputation. One could get a pistol that holds the same # of 4/
perchingbird
I mean they are in the news a lot for not happy reasons
canadianreserve
Only in America. We had zero shootings with the AR15 in Canada and they banned them anyway. Vedy sad.
perchingbird
There was a shooting recently in Nova Scotia that used one
ArcadianXero
It's a hobby like anything else. Target shooting is fun as hell. So is collecting.
gordy77
Guns are cool, I get it.
Xedi22
Me, a liberal gun owner? Skill and fun, mainly. Feral hog defense on the country land, 2nd. Potential home defense, 3rd...but doggo mainly.
Xedi22
We despise the ammosexuals though. And don’t hunt. (Feral/invasive hogs in Texas are a different story though.)
TheSecondPiewackit
Seconded. Liberal gun owner and I live in the boonies. Bears, mountain lions, bobcats, etc. Also a shitload of militant Trumples.
Kumonryu42
For whatever the fuck I want. Why do you *need* a smartphone?
gordy77
Honestly, mostly dungeons and dragons
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Kumonryu42
Now you're implying I don't want Swiss labor laws, too.
gordy77
You sold all your other rights so you can own a gun phallus. Congrats.
Kumonryu42
Thank you! *caresses my ghost AR15 tenderly and lovingly*
bluekestral
Mom the left is thinking about my dick again!
StatmanIbrahimovic
In case you didn't know, the AR in AR15 does not stand for assault rifle. It's made by a company called ARmalite
Conqueeftadore
Yeah! But the AR in ARmalite does actually stand for assault rifle
StatmanIbrahimovic
This is the definition of demonstrably false. If you really think that's true, go and find a credible source.
Conqueeftadore
Holy fuck, I guess without the /s some of y’all really don’t recognize a clear joke. Not a good one, just a dumb statement. Lighten up ffs
Kumonryu42
No, it doesn't.
Conqueeftadore
Whoa! You opened my eyes! All this time I was blind to this truth. Thank you for letting me and the other 6 upvoters how ignorant we’ve been
autodidacticcortex
Newp.
Conqueeftadore
Fuck really??!!! Wow, great catch. Just making a dumb statement never meant to be serious. Thanks for weighing in though. Geez.
KeredRednaxela
Assault Rifle malite?
Conqueeftadore
You got it!
filben7
Ok but Biden does actually say he wants to take away a large amount of peoples guns.
DarkSock
Annnnd you prove OP’s point - and the Dunning Kruger theorum - at the same time!
RadicalLeftist
Good, fuck em. You gun loving morkns keep shooting others, yourselves, selling to people who go on and shoot others or generally fuck it up
RadicalLeftist
For everyone. You should have to spend weeks jumping through hoops to get a gun.
Imnotbehindyou
Well yes thats what @OP is saying so did Clinton, and also Obama.
filben7
Okay... so you agree its a real concern when the president says he wants to limit peoples rights. FYI, I voted for Biden because trump was
filben7
so much worse but its disingenuous to not hold politicians accountable for attacks(justified or not) on ANY right or freedom.
Imnotbehindyou
People have to wake up, just because nothing has been done about gun control for decades doesnt mean its not going to happen this time.
Camelspotting
Kinda does
Imnotbehindyou
Oh i almost forgot /s
Imnotbehindyou
Yes especially since the people mentioned are the REAL problem ya know, i mean when has a republican lied or underhandedly stolen our rights
ButtBot9900
When did he say that? Genuine question.
SgtV3n0m
Take it you've never been to his campaign page: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/ Ban, ban, register, "buy backs", bans
kahless01
buy backs are not taking guns. if people are stupid enough to wanna sell em so cheap let them.
SaintCody
The buybacks would be mandatory, with the alternative being registering them with the ATF for a ton of money and violation of rights.
kahless01
keep drinking your kool aid chump. you dont believe in the 2A, if you did you would be fighting to get felons their guns back
SaintCody
Or destroying your firearms to make them unusable.
SgtV3n0m
And more talks of him pushing for more bans: https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/biden-calls-gun-control-time-act-now
kahless01
got any sources that arent right wing bullshit websites or you wanna post something from OAN now?
ButtBot9900
Ok. Set up the fireworks because I don't agree with that.
ClaudeKenny
He's enacting laws to mimic CA's policy of mandatory buybacks... from people who ILLEGALLY POSSESS FIREARMS.
ClaudeKenny
No one is "taking your guns" unless you're prohibited from owning them in the first place. Stop pushing reactionist fearmongering.
TheOriginalAmberRose
Assault weapons.
IIikethecutofyourjib
Yeah, not people's fucking hunting rifles or personal pistols. Ffs these people right?
Snuffalybuns
Lots of people hunt with assault weapons. The AR15 is the most popular rifle in the US for a reason.
filben7
What part of statement wasnt correct?
filben7
Those are guns people own and Biden wants to take them away or make those people felons. Thats his policy position.
Zipbang
Stopping the production, sale, and trade of them is not "taking them from people". You just can't get any more.
Camelspotting
If we want to get there eventually this is one of the first big steps.
TheGrayBox
Realistically the debate always comes down to capacity, not the gun itself. I think the result would be a ban on selling high capacity mags
Einherion
You mean normal capacity mags?
TheGrayBox
Sadly yes
TheGrayBox
Not to say that I think there isn’t a tangible limit that could be regulated, but in the past the numbers have been unrealistic.
Snuffalybuns
The gun bans biden proposed are far broader than just capacity.
TheGrayBox
The definition of assault weapon in his proposal is inherently linked to magazine capacity.
TheOriginalAmberRose
Let me state the obvious: People don't need to have assault weapons.
filben7
Also "assault weapons"* needs definition as muskets used to be weapons of war and were the most advanced person weapon of their day.
RadicalLeftist
It was defined in the assault weapons ban buddy. Whatever dumbfuck youtuber told you this line, shapiro, needs to read the bill
SerMorgenstern
Not having a need isn’t a reason to ban them to be fair
Camelspotting
The reason needs to introduction.
filben7
Why not? The entire purpose of the second amendment was so the people out gun the government.
hardytardigrade
If that was the entire purpose, that's all it would say & all anyone would interpret it to mean. But the people don't outgun the govt anyway
MH9009
Legacy4K
You'd be fighting a drone war with pistols and ARs you daft cunt
SomeDetroitGuy
The last four years have disproven that argument. When Trump ordered a police riot at Lafayette Square, where were the 2nd Amendment guys?
HolyCringeLordBatman
So just for definition's sake. I want to ask you, what is the difference between a Ruger mini-14 and an AR-15. Are you actually arguing that
HolyCringeLordBatman
A collapsable stock, and bayonet lug of all things somehow make the AR-15 more dangerous than a Mini-14?