Oh this is amazing, but at the same time I wish they'd kept it shut to keep pressure on the rest of the world to get the US to QUIT THEIR FUCKING BULLSHIT
I'd wager this is an empty promise. As noted by other comments, most countries use a "flag of convenience." I would add that it is pretty likely Iranian intelligence assets and command structure for giving firing orders has likely degraded. Command seems to have fractured somewhat, which would explain why Turkey has intercepted shots fired while the IRGC says "we would never" for example. Helps with resilience (harder to take out command when there's 10 targets, not 1) bad for coordination.
Russian + Chinese intel can help them choose targets, if it's in Russian internest (it is = more tankers sunk = more money for ruSSian oil) or in Chinese interest. (it's not in Chinese interest to cut its supply and raise oil prices)
This NYP article from last week was actually 'fake news'. It was Israel, USA, >> and their allies <<, but the paper deceptively clipped that last part in the headline.
I don't think that will have the effect they think it will. I mean, oil is a global commodity. The availability of product in the market will make the price go down for every buyer, not just the ones who can get a ship through there.
Sure, the US won't be able to get a ship registered in the US to go through, but most maritime shipping companies are registered in tax heavens, not in the US, and they fly mostly flags from Panamá or Liberia, with crew from the Philippines or something like that.
Do you think they made the declaration without a method of discerning the difference between US/Israeli ships, and others? It’s not the Trump regime. Iran is taking the hits to show the world the great Satan the US, and Israel are. They doing their best to strike back at only US, and Israeli targets.
Both the US and Iran have a history of saying shit that has a very tenuous connection to reality at best. This is not a statement of reality on Iran's part - merely intent. Notably, as of a week ago there was credible intel that Iran had started mining the strait. I don't know if they followed through or not.
The reality right now is *nobody* can promise safe passage on either side. It's a fucking warzone.
Weel, I mean - yeah? Blowing up thimgs and increasing risk and reducing supply raises prices.
But I doubt that was the intent.
It seems pretty clear to me we started a war with Iran because Donny thought it'd be an easy win and distract us from the fact he likes to fuck children. Which - it didn't.
Do the US and Isreal even have oil tankers? I mean, most ships seem to run under one or the other "flag of convenience", so how do you know if a ship running under e.g. Lebanese flag is shipping oil for a US company?
The threat of being barraged with a hail of bullets and rockets, instead of the typical habour master detain, inspect, fine, arrested, is what deters Israeli and US ships from flying false flags.
Do you really think the intelligence dept. of Iran, and every other country, DOESN'T know which tanker belongs to which country? C'mon dude. WE don't know. But they fucking do.
The Post is trash, but I'm not seeing a problem here. They paraphrased what he said to fit the headline. It's obvious the U.S. and Israel aren't welcome to benefit from the use of the straight.
Oil production euipment transport, crane vessels, dredging vessels, regular cargo such as electronics, new and used cars and trucks, food supplies, livestock. There are millions of people living around the Persian Gulf. They get all sorts of supplies.
The war with Iran is driving up more than gasoline prices. It is beginning to hit semiconductors, medical imaging, backyard gardens and even children’s party balloons... Hormuz is also a major shipping route for helium and fertilizer, which both affect a wide sector of the economy... About a third of both the global helium and fertilizer supply... half of the global supply of urea – a nitrogen-based fertilizer– and almost a third of the ammonia supply run through the straits - Politico
And the state of the Venezuelan oil rigs is pathetic. Plus it's not like the US is in control (boots on the ground) of it, so just a handful of spicy FPV drones is enough to fuck shit up.
Can someone explain why that is? Is it because our refineries aren't configured to handle that oil? I've heard it said several times that we can't use their oil, but no explanation has been given as to the reason.
I’m oversimplifying by saying it’s crude oil which basically makes it cost more to transport and refine. IIRC to process the crude they typically add lighter oil to it, though I’m sure there are mechanical differences to the setups even if they are subtle. Hopefully someone more informed can expand cause I’m curious to know the answer myself but feel unable to properly parse all the necessary information
“according to two people familiar with US intelligence reporting on the issue.”
CNN is propaganda. In reading this article I found no verifiable evidence. It’s a very serious allegation. After listening to Powell sell us on chemical weapons factories that didn’t exist I get real suspicious of conveniently factless claims when they need support for a war.
"The only talk I heard about mines came from a senile child rapist" - that's your words.
Unless you know more about CNN than I do, I doubt they are senile *or* children (raped or otherwise) or rapists.
You are dismissing testimony based on your bias. That's fine - we all do. But - understand the reality is you don't actually know, same as me. We take in and trust news sources where we can.
But the assertion you implied was that it was Donny and Donny alone claiming mines seems to be suspect
CNN is regime approved news. It may as well be from Donny’s face sphincter. The portion I quoted is the portion that determines if it’s news, or if it’s a bloated puff piece selling a narrative. Like the president claiming he spoke to a former president. No. He didn’t.
Nowisgood1951
I don't think so
samanthadlcruz
as it should be.
terajack2048
I say one big game of red light green light with the ships
joshuasplinth
Isn’t it ‘what’s all around comes around,’ Petey?
evilspock
The mines big to differ.
Zatagedwe11
Woah...childhood flashBAck!...
AnonsAndMinions
Oh this is amazing, but at the same time I wish they'd kept it shut to keep pressure on the rest of the world to get the US to QUIT THEIR FUCKING BULLSHIT
Taxian
I'd wager this is an empty promise. As noted by other comments, most countries use a "flag of convenience." I would add that it is pretty likely Iranian intelligence assets and command structure for giving firing orders has likely degraded. Command seems to have fractured somewhat, which would explain why Turkey has intercepted shots fired while the IRGC says "we would never" for example. Helps with resilience (harder to take out command when there's 10 targets, not 1) bad for coordination.
Frencheeseater
Russian + Chinese intel can help them choose targets, if it's in Russian internest (it is = more tankers sunk = more money for ruSSian oil) or in Chinese interest. (it's not in Chinese interest to cut its supply and raise oil prices)
arvinj1
This is brilliant
barnwolf
How are the calculating that? Cause very few of the commercial ships going through there are registered to the US.
dixxienormus
Any country member. Except for the one in the White House. Forget him.
thelionandtheloon
RicheTheBuddha
That's fair
BadAsprin
FUCK YOU DONALD
torokunai
This NYP article from last week was actually 'fake news'. It was Israel, USA, >> and their allies <<, but the paper deceptively clipped that last part in the headline.
torokunai
“It is only closed to the tankers and ships belong[ing] to our enemies, to those who are attacking us and their allies. Others are free to pass”
2B4UALL
And the loser is…..
urusername2
As an American, I hope this hurts our economy enough to force these idiots out of power!
bigk001
welp, Russia is better than America...
camn333
I don't think that will have the effect they think it will. I mean, oil is a global commodity. The availability of product in the market will make the price go down for every buyer, not just the ones who can get a ship through there.
Sure, the US won't be able to get a ship registered in the US to go through, but most maritime shipping companies are registered in tax heavens, not in the US, and they fly mostly flags from Panamá or Liberia, with crew from the Philippines or something like that.
Eyeetsass
Do you think they made the declaration without a method of discerning the difference between US/Israeli ships, and others? It’s not the Trump regime. Iran is taking the hits to show the world the great Satan the US, and Israel are. They doing their best to strike back at only US, and Israeli targets.
SayonaraSally
Thank god we have the slightly less great Satan to really show us the great Satan :)
evilspock
Yes.
Both the US and Iran have a history of saying shit that has a very tenuous connection to reality at best. This is not a statement of reality on Iran's part - merely intent. Notably, as of a week ago there was credible intel that Iran had started mining the strait. I don't know if they followed through or not.
The reality right now is *nobody* can promise safe passage on either side. It's a fucking warzone.
Eyeetsass
Feels like a blame game for oil prices.
evilspock
Weel, I mean - yeah? Blowing up thimgs and increasing risk and reducing supply raises prices.
But I doubt that was the intent.
It seems pretty clear to me we started a war with Iran because Donny thought it'd be an easy win and distract us from the fact he likes to fuck children. Which - it didn't.
stercusmoriturussum
Do the US and Isreal even have oil tankers? I mean, most ships seem to run under one or the other "flag of convenience", so how do you know if a ship running under e.g. Lebanese flag is shipping oil for a US company?
demosteness
Easy. The red caps.
samanthadlcruz
you can track ships online. if they lie they don't get safe passage again...
bigk001
"The US 'took control' of Iran's tankers for security reasons" – Trump tomorrow after reading your comment & stealing tankers
MotoCanuck
The threat of being barraged with a hail of bullets and rockets, instead of the typical habour master detain, inspect, fine, arrested, is what deters Israeli and US ships from flying false flags.
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
Liberia, Marshall Islands or Panama. Are the 3 most used flags of convenience....
Intelligence operations will know which are which
CallMeCourierSix
Do you really think the intelligence dept. of Iran, and every other country, DOESN'T know which tanker belongs to which country? C'mon dude. WE don't know. But they fucking do.
2B4UALL
There must be a way to find out whose cargo it is
bigk001
all US Republicans say it's all theirs, so...?
LeftRightThere
I’m pretty sure they are tracking every ship and will decide who can go and not just take their word for it.
hotaru251
this near 100%.
Track the oil location and if they go to US they get added to the list that can't pass.
choppedliveraldente
Big badda boom
torokunai
This NYP headline and article was them doing their usual tricks. Later in the article they actually have the accurate quote:
“It is only closed to the tankers and ships belong[ing] to our enemies, to those who are attacking us and their allies. Others are free to pass”
NothingPrince
Bit didn't they get a Greek ship
torokunai
going to India, Iran's friend
Sinmiedo1931
The Post is trash, but I'm not seeing a problem here. They paraphrased what he said to fit the headline. It's obvious the U.S. and Israel aren't welcome to benefit from the use of the straight.
torokunai
"and their allies" . . .
BillHubbard
There is so much more shipping going on than just oil tankers.
stercusmoriturussum
In the Strait of Hormuz? That's a dead end, with big oil ports on the end of it. Ok, there's also LNG and a few other oil products. What else?
Frencheeseater
The port of Dubai is an important hub for boats between Asia & Europe.
BillHubbard
Oil production euipment transport, crane vessels, dredging vessels, regular cargo such as electronics, new and used cars and trucks, food supplies, livestock. There are millions of people living around the Persian Gulf. They get all sorts of supplies.
gracefulone
The war with Iran is driving up more than gasoline prices. It is beginning to hit semiconductors, medical imaging, backyard gardens and even children’s party balloons... Hormuz is also a major shipping route for helium and fertilizer, which both affect a wide sector of the economy... About a third of both the global helium and fertilizer supply... half of the global supply of urea – a nitrogen-based fertilizer– and almost a third of the ammonia supply run through the straits - Politico
fractalsphere
More impactful would be OPEC opting to not sell any more oil to the US.
GerardEngelage
This would explain taking Venezuela.
MrStealUrMeme
Except the U.S. cant use the type of oil Venezuela produces.
DerpMeister
And the state of the Venezuelan oil rigs is pathetic. Plus it's not like the US is in control (boots on the ground) of it, so just a handful of spicy FPV drones is enough to fuck shit up.
mindstorm8191
Can someone explain why that is? Is it because our refineries aren't configured to handle that oil? I've heard it said several times that we can't use their oil, but no explanation has been given as to the reason.
3andAHalfLivesAgo
I’m oversimplifying by saying it’s crude oil which basically makes it cost more to transport and refine. IIRC to process the crude they typically add lighter oil to it, though I’m sure there are mechanical differences to the setups even if they are subtle. Hopefully someone more informed can expand cause I’m curious to know the answer myself but feel unable to properly parse all the necessary information
19marcurious57
Due to high viscosity and low API, these crudes behave almost like solid materials at low temperatures. In plain english: Thicc shit.
mindstorm8191
Thanks. That led me to this https://www.visualcapitalist.com/oil-benchmarks-around-the-world-how-venezuela-compares/ that gives a pretty nice explanation.
I've played several games where you process crude oil, they never seem to consider some crudes would have higher levels of sulphur, thus needing different systems to process them.
ThatPug
I appreciate the thought but I don't know if the mines are going to be discerning unfortunately.
Nukls
aye matey
that's the existential question
Frencheeseater
Iran's mine-laying ships got sunk. They can still use drones & missiles to damage or sink targets. Straits of Hormuz is only 50 km wide.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
I've read somewhere that Iran didn't use many mines but mostly rockets/drones to attack ships.
evilspock
From a week ago: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/10/politics/iran-begins-laying-mines-in-strait-of-hormuz
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Thanks, i remembered reports of that sort
Eyeetsass
What mines? The only talk I heard about mines came from a senile child rapist. I don’t give those words any weight.
evilspock
This is a week old.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/10/politics/iran-begins-laying-mines-in-strait-of-hormuz
Eyeetsass
“according to two people familiar with US intelligence reporting on the issue.”
CNN is propaganda. In reading this article I found no verifiable evidence. It’s a very serious allegation. After listening to Powell sell us on chemical weapons factories that didn’t exist I get real suspicious of conveniently factless claims when they need support for a war.
evilspock
"The only talk I heard about mines came from a senile child rapist" - that's your words.
Unless you know more about CNN than I do, I doubt they are senile *or* children (raped or otherwise) or rapists.
You are dismissing testimony based on your bias. That's fine - we all do. But - understand the reality is you don't actually know, same as me. We take in and trust news sources where we can.
But the assertion you implied was that it was Donny and Donny alone claiming mines seems to be suspect
Eyeetsass
CNN is regime approved news. It may as well be from Donny’s face sphincter. The portion I quoted is the portion that determines if it’s news, or if it’s a bloated puff piece selling a narrative. Like the president claiming he spoke to a former president. No. He didn’t.