Mar 25, 2018 5:14 PM
ManolitoStone
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...Monster Beats by Dr. Dre to be precise
Blze001
All hail our lord and savior in cables, Monoprice
MattBoudreauPhoto
I've been using nothing but 2$ HDMI cables from the dollar store for years. All of them still work flawlessly.
Rips4w
I work for Best Buy/Geek Squad. I get products 5% over wholesale. Cords of any kind, HDMI to phone charges, are insanely marked up.
maximumbob54
I've always just bought the Amazon Basics HDMI cables and they've been good enough.
nearurod
For extra-long HDMI cables, go with bluejeanscables.com. For short ones, use Amazon Basics.
SilverNicktail
Buy some nice braided ones that are at least decently made for $10, then leave it at that.
Schaufeljim
Just buy any hdmi 1.4a cbl and most ppl will be fine.
theredpanda09
Monoprice.com so cheap, but really great quality.
aStrangerVoid
And then there's the snakeoil known as audiophile cables. https://audiofederation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/nordost-prices-30.png
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Why is my only option "Feed 500 starving children".
spitfires2000
Well... you don't HAVE to buy them from Moster.
TCGView
People actually buy it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KY2NKCO/
Yes, but have you seen George Takei's Ethernet Cable review? https://www.amazon.com/review/R2H5U4H5NGGAR0
OlanDyurai
This is all fine and good if you ignore amplitude diminishing. This "tip" obviously was only talking to consumers before 2005 (pre hdmi 1.3)
mikeatike
You can inject your gas injected cable into your gas injected ass.
Straiza
I mean..there are different versions of hdmi out there. So at least, check which version is going to meet your needs.
loser9999
If doing 4k make sure it's hdcp 2.2 capable.
scotbaron
FYI hdcp is the copy protection version, HDMI standard 1.4 added 4k support although only at 8-bit colour. HDMI 2.0 onwards offer better ..
..frame rate and colour depth transmission
GrumpierOldMan
I will admit, I have Monster speaker cables. I bought a 25ft spool 30 years ago. 30 years! I think I spent $25.
MightyIink
Anything digital either works or it doesn't, there is no "improving" the signal.
porpz
Do not buy the cheapest cable. Buy a quality ones with good connectors.
theloneponderer
Amazon Basics.
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mondanmondan
Sounds like exactly what he described then.
SolidBrassAndHangingLow
I have one that was given for free as a promo item, it's outlasted all the other hdmi cables I've had.
...that will cost you $25
...or less https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-1-Pack/dp/B014I8SIJY/
patricconant
It's almost like Best Buy is just a horrible retailer https://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Cable-6ft-Connectors-PlayStation/dp/B00NQ9OQU2/
youdoeslies
also beats by dre are rubbish sounding headphones
calcifear
Gold plating is nice, in that it keeps connections from corroding. You need some sheilding. But anything that passes HDMI cert is fine 1/2
That means spending $10-25 depending on length, in general. 2/2
Mooki
I bought a cheap shitty cable once and ended up with weird green dots in the dark areas. A not quite as shitty cable fixed it.
Wouldn't buy the idiotic "special" cables, but definitely don't just buy the cheapest crap you can find.
valen00
If you got 2 cheap shit ones you probably would have still saved money and had a working cable ;-)
Wampapoodoo
I'd rather go display port.
MonitorZero
Again no HDMI cable is worth more than $25
aznanimality
I had to buy a 300ft HDMI cable a few years ago and it cost me $25. Worth it.
Kabibble
HDMI can’t reach that far. Either a lie or a typo.
malexmatt
There is Active HDMI cabling that repeats/regenerates the signal that can.
Not without power and not anywhere close to that length. Prove me wrong
MrDeadsr
Id even say that non are worth more then 24 dollar.
FreezeTheBallsOffABrassMonkey
I'd say none are worth more than $23
XLIILXIX
So, you’re saying none are worth more ($25) then an additional $24? That makes a $49 price tag. You’re overspending on your HDMI cables.
RolloDumbassi
I have a few from Poundland and they work perfectly.
davidjytang
Nonsense, overclocking the cable is a thing. Look it up.
Plz don’t look it up.
I had an argument with a Best Buy rep (and eventually his manager) about why I don't need EMI shielding on a fiber optic cable.
inboxmeyourcomputerporn
I don't believe you.
Thelynxesk
uhm....nothing compared to this pricing: http://www.wireworldcable.com/tablet/hdmi-2.0-cables.html
this one to be more specific https://store.wireworldcable.com/collections/hdmi-cables/products/platinum-starlight-7-hdmi-cable?variant=94377
How dare you say you can live without "carbon fiber plugs and solid silver conductors"!!!
You pay $1000 for a cable, and them you put a shitty coupler on it http://www.wireworldcable.com/tablet/hdmi-2.0-cables.html#u19564-4
pretty much
intashu
I suggest don't buy the CHEAPEST cable out there. But over $10-15 your wasting your money. Specially of you never touch them after first use
BunburyBunburist
You're
CandidGamera
Jup. Since digital means "perfect or not at all", getting a shoddy cable that delivers "not at all" isn't a great deal either...
Arconyte
I got one in 2010 or so for $0.01 on Amazon. $4 shipping. Still hooked up to my PS3, still works great.
Wolfos
If you want the latest standards I believe they’re around $30-$40.
pockpock
Bought 5 cheap 2$ HDMI cables from china... still on my first, the 10$ cables in retail here all broke after a few months
TheNLK
I just buy a cable that doesn't look like its garbage, and has a decently thick shielding.
wombatwobble
I bought a 4 footer for 35 cents on Amazon in 2008 still works today
prettyselfexplanatory
The reason being the cheap ones may fall apart. Spend enough to keep it intact while getting the job done
Amazon Basics usually has great prices below $10 but still good quality.
Lapkin
Cheapest cable could not having certification. And could not support high bandwith. (Or could - no one could tell for sure)
dangerousDoc
Yeah some cables are cheap because they didn't make them to last. 10-20 range is built sturdy enough
If you constantly plug and unplug the cable, make sure it has a durable end for the extra use. Still under $15-20
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yeah, for electric guitars that you don't keep plugged in, it's worth getting a sturdier cable. But still not anywhere near $100.
These are sturdy as hell: https://www.amazon.com/Twisted-Veins-2ACHB6-Speed-Cables/dp/B00BEWF4R2
GordonDavidson
Both of my main HDMI cables cost £1. They've worked since and I got them a few years ago so yeah don't buy expensive
insomniac24x7
Couldn’t agree more, nowadays Monitor manufacturers include them and they work fine for years.
cyanm
Like wine in a restaurant, always get the second cheapest
tacodefender
Typically the 2nd cheapest wine makes the most profit at restaurants. Often times it is an inferior product to the cheapest wine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlg3H1StHpQ
That's a good point. I usually buy "just good enough" cables for normal (i.e. permanent) use
... and sturdier ones for temporarily uses, like projectors
jn2guru
Yep. The cheapest ones, especially for load carrying cables, often from less regulated imports from China, will catch fire or fail
a) if your HDMI cable is carrying load you are doing something wrong b) it won't catch fire, it's HDMI.
Hmm, I meant there are other cables like USB that can. Sorry
I've seen the cheap ones cause fires. Technically it's the device being improperly charged or a short lighting a flammable substance.
pres2pond
Also, VERY IMPORTANT: There are different standards of HDMI. For anything above 1080p 60hz display, MAKE SURE it says "2.0" or "2.1".
I made that unfortunate discovery when my 2k monitor wouldn't work when plugged in the HDMI output unless I set it to 1080p.
ImmortalLoveRodd
HDCP is an important consideration too. I have a hundred dollars woth of useless HDMI cables because my AVR only supports HDCP 2.2.
Xplode441
Why aren't you using displayport.
ExTechOp
Consumer gear doesn't have that as often, although it would be better for higher resolutions.
I am now, I just had an HDMI cable back then and the monitor said it had HDMI input, so I didn't buy anything else.
Ask developers of the most consumer grade electronics.
Memaleph
And this is the proof that all cable are not the same quality. If you take a (really) short hdmi 1.4 cable, you might connect hdmi 2.0 devic
Digital signals can be damaged enough to not be readable at the end of the cable. This being said, if the digital signal is always readable,
then the best quality is achieved. No need of a more expensive cable.
The cable prices are bullshit, no doubt. But a lot of misinformation here about digital signals. Yes the data is encoded into 1s and 0s but
grovberg
Not to mention that shitty cables create other problems, most of which mean instead of the signal looking poor, it just doesn’t work at all.
The medium of sending it down the cable is still effectively an analog medium. The levels on the receiving end still need to be interpreted
As either 1s or 0s and noise in the signal can cause bits to be interpreted incorrectly
GOAE
Very true, when OTA TV switched to digital, you can still get signals that intermittently work on a frame by frame basis
willek
That is why hdmi signal has error correction. If the noise exceeds the error correction capability, you will see a black screen.
Or just not interpreted. I actually don't know a lot about HDMI framing, but other digital signalling formats will frequently 1/
include error checkers of some kind, with the ability to request re-transmission of lost or mangled frames. This is NOT GOOD 2/
for live, real time formats like video. Bit-rate does matter and the quality of the cable can make a difference. However, 3/
MrFnortner
"Interpreting" 1s and 0s from a noisy source is like reading through smudged glasses. You won't see clearly but the words won't change.
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
Or you fail an eye pattern test and can't pass an acquirable signal at all.
That's pretty much it.
If you feel sorry for your gear spend the money but remember that your gear has no feelings, not even through smudgy glasses.
I don't even own a TV. I'm speaking as an electrical engineer that works on embedded systems. In this particular case yes I agree even the
Blze001
All hail our lord and savior in cables, Monoprice
MattBoudreauPhoto
I've been using nothing but 2$ HDMI cables from the dollar store for years. All of them still work flawlessly.
Rips4w
I work for Best Buy/Geek Squad. I get products 5% over wholesale. Cords of any kind, HDMI to phone charges, are insanely marked up.
maximumbob54
I've always just bought the Amazon Basics HDMI cables and they've been good enough.
nearurod
For extra-long HDMI cables, go with bluejeanscables.com. For short ones, use Amazon Basics.
SilverNicktail
Buy some nice braided ones that are at least decently made for $10, then leave it at that.
Schaufeljim
Just buy any hdmi 1.4a cbl and most ppl will be fine.
theredpanda09
Monoprice.com so cheap, but really great quality.
aStrangerVoid
And then there's the snakeoil known as audiophile cables. https://audiofederation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/nordost-prices-30.png
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Why is my only option "Feed 500 starving children".
spitfires2000
Well... you don't HAVE to buy them from Moster.
TCGView
People actually buy it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KY2NKCO/
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Yes, but have you seen George Takei's Ethernet Cable review? https://www.amazon.com/review/R2H5U4H5NGGAR0
OlanDyurai
This is all fine and good if you ignore amplitude diminishing. This "tip" obviously was only talking to consumers before 2005 (pre hdmi 1.3)
mikeatike
You can inject your gas injected cable into your gas injected ass.
Straiza
I mean..there are different versions of hdmi out there. So at least, check which version is going to meet your needs.
loser9999
If doing 4k make sure it's hdcp 2.2 capable.
scotbaron
FYI hdcp is the copy protection version, HDMI standard 1.4 added 4k support although only at 8-bit colour. HDMI 2.0 onwards offer better ..
scotbaron
..frame rate and colour depth transmission
GrumpierOldMan
I will admit, I have Monster speaker cables. I bought a 25ft spool 30 years ago. 30 years! I think I spent $25.
MightyIink
Anything digital either works or it doesn't, there is no "improving" the signal.
porpz
Do not buy the cheapest cable. Buy a quality ones with good connectors.
theloneponderer
Amazon Basics.
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mondanmondan
Sounds like exactly what he described then.
SolidBrassAndHangingLow
I have one that was given for free as a promo item, it's outlasted all the other hdmi cables I've had.
ManolitoStone
...that will cost you $25
ManolitoStone
...or less https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-1-Pack/dp/B014I8SIJY/
patricconant
It's almost like Best Buy is just a horrible retailer https://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Cable-6ft-Connectors-PlayStation/dp/B00NQ9OQU2/
youdoeslies
also beats by dre are rubbish sounding headphones
calcifear
Gold plating is nice, in that it keeps connections from corroding. You need some sheilding. But anything that passes HDMI cert is fine 1/2
calcifear
That means spending $10-25 depending on length, in general. 2/2
Mooki
I bought a cheap shitty cable once and ended up with weird green dots in the dark areas. A not quite as shitty cable fixed it.
Mooki
Wouldn't buy the idiotic "special" cables, but definitely don't just buy the cheapest crap you can find.
valen00
If you got 2 cheap shit ones you probably would have still saved money and had a working cable ;-)
Wampapoodoo
I'd rather go display port.
MonitorZero
Again no HDMI cable is worth more than $25
aznanimality
I had to buy a 300ft HDMI cable a few years ago and it cost me $25. Worth it.
Kabibble
HDMI can’t reach that far. Either a lie or a typo.
malexmatt
There is Active HDMI cabling that repeats/regenerates the signal that can.
Kabibble
Not without power and not anywhere close to that length. Prove me wrong
MrDeadsr
Id even say that non are worth more then 24 dollar.
FreezeTheBallsOffABrassMonkey
I'd say none are worth more than $23
XLIILXIX
So, you’re saying none are worth more ($25) then an additional $24? That makes a $49 price tag. You’re overspending on your HDMI cables.
RolloDumbassi
I have a few from Poundland and they work perfectly.
davidjytang
Nonsense, overclocking the cable is a thing. Look it up.
davidjytang
Plz don’t look it up.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
I had an argument with a Best Buy rep (and eventually his manager) about why I don't need EMI shielding on a fiber optic cable.
inboxmeyourcomputerporn
I don't believe you.
Kabibble
Thelynxesk
uhm....nothing compared to this pricing: http://www.wireworldcable.com/tablet/hdmi-2.0-cables.html
Thelynxesk
this one to be more specific https://store.wireworldcable.com/collections/hdmi-cables/products/platinum-starlight-7-hdmi-cable?variant=94377
ManolitoStone
How dare you say you can live without "carbon fiber plugs and solid silver conductors"!!!
ManolitoStone
You pay $1000 for a cable, and them you put a shitty coupler on it http://www.wireworldcable.com/tablet/hdmi-2.0-cables.html#u19564-4
Thelynxesk
pretty much
intashu
I suggest don't buy the CHEAPEST cable out there. But over $10-15 your wasting your money. Specially of you never touch them after first use
BunburyBunburist
You're
CandidGamera
Jup. Since digital means "perfect or not at all", getting a shoddy cable that delivers "not at all" isn't a great deal either...
Arconyte
I got one in 2010 or so for $0.01 on Amazon. $4 shipping. Still hooked up to my PS3, still works great.
Wolfos
If you want the latest standards I believe they’re around $30-$40.
pockpock
Bought 5 cheap 2$ HDMI cables from china... still on my first, the 10$ cables in retail here all broke after a few months
TheNLK
I just buy a cable that doesn't look like its garbage, and has a decently thick shielding.
wombatwobble
I bought a 4 footer for 35 cents on Amazon in 2008 still works today
prettyselfexplanatory
The reason being the cheap ones may fall apart. Spend enough to keep it intact while getting the job done
theloneponderer
Amazon Basics usually has great prices below $10 but still good quality.
Lapkin
Cheapest cable could not having certification. And could not support high bandwith. (Or could - no one could tell for sure)
dangerousDoc
Yeah some cables are cheap because they didn't make them to last. 10-20 range is built sturdy enough
intashu
If you constantly plug and unplug the cable, make sure it has a durable end for the extra use. Still under $15-20
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yeah, for electric guitars that you don't keep plugged in, it's worth getting a sturdier cable. But still not anywhere near $100.
ManolitoStone
These are sturdy as hell: https://www.amazon.com/Twisted-Veins-2ACHB6-Speed-Cables/dp/B00BEWF4R2
GordonDavidson
Both of my main HDMI cables cost £1. They've worked since and I got them a few years ago so yeah don't buy expensive
insomniac24x7
Couldn’t agree more, nowadays Monitor manufacturers include them and they work fine for years.
cyanm
Like wine in a restaurant, always get the second cheapest
tacodefender
Typically the 2nd cheapest wine makes the most profit at restaurants. Often times it is an inferior product to the cheapest wine.
cyanm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlg3H1StHpQ
ManolitoStone
That's a good point. I usually buy "just good enough" cables for normal (i.e. permanent) use
ManolitoStone
... and sturdier ones for temporarily uses, like projectors
jn2guru
Yep. The cheapest ones, especially for load carrying cables, often from less regulated imports from China, will catch fire or fail
valen00
a) if your HDMI cable is carrying load you are doing something wrong b) it won't catch fire, it's HDMI.
jn2guru
Hmm, I meant there are other cables like USB that can. Sorry
jn2guru
I've seen the cheap ones cause fires. Technically it's the device being improperly charged or a short lighting a flammable substance.
pres2pond
Also, VERY IMPORTANT: There are different standards of HDMI. For anything above 1080p 60hz display, MAKE SURE it says "2.0" or "2.1".
pres2pond
I made that unfortunate discovery when my 2k monitor wouldn't work when plugged in the HDMI output unless I set it to 1080p.
ImmortalLoveRodd
HDCP is an important consideration too. I have a hundred dollars woth of useless HDMI cables because my AVR only supports HDCP 2.2.
Xplode441
Why aren't you using displayport.
ExTechOp
Consumer gear doesn't have that as often, although it would be better for higher resolutions.
pres2pond
I am now, I just had an HDMI cable back then and the monitor said it had HDMI input, so I didn't buy anything else.
Lapkin
Ask developers of the most consumer grade electronics.
Memaleph
And this is the proof that all cable are not the same quality. If you take a (really) short hdmi 1.4 cable, you might connect hdmi 2.0 devic
Memaleph
Digital signals can be damaged enough to not be readable at the end of the cable. This being said, if the digital signal is always readable,
Memaleph
then the best quality is achieved. No need of a more expensive cable.
FreezeTheBallsOffABrassMonkey
The cable prices are bullshit, no doubt. But a lot of misinformation here about digital signals. Yes the data is encoded into 1s and 0s but
grovberg
Not to mention that shitty cables create other problems, most of which mean instead of the signal looking poor, it just doesn’t work at all.
FreezeTheBallsOffABrassMonkey
The medium of sending it down the cable is still effectively an analog medium. The levels on the receiving end still need to be interpreted
FreezeTheBallsOffABrassMonkey
As either 1s or 0s and noise in the signal can cause bits to be interpreted incorrectly
GOAE
Very true, when OTA TV switched to digital, you can still get signals that intermittently work on a frame by frame basis
willek
That is why hdmi signal has error correction. If the noise exceeds the error correction capability, you will see a black screen.
malexmatt
Or just not interpreted. I actually don't know a lot about HDMI framing, but other digital signalling formats will frequently 1/
malexmatt
include error checkers of some kind, with the ability to request re-transmission of lost or mangled frames. This is NOT GOOD 2/
malexmatt
for live, real time formats like video. Bit-rate does matter and the quality of the cable can make a difference. However, 3/
MrFnortner
"Interpreting" 1s and 0s from a noisy source is like reading through smudged glasses. You won't see clearly but the words won't change.
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
Or you fail an eye pattern test and can't pass an acquirable signal at all.
MrFnortner
That's pretty much it.
MrFnortner
If you feel sorry for your gear spend the money but remember that your gear has no feelings, not even through smudgy glasses.
FreezeTheBallsOffABrassMonkey
I don't even own a TV. I'm speaking as an electrical engineer that works on embedded systems. In this particular case yes I agree even the