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C0ffeePlays
Abbas Ndeli needs a better paint program.
ChameleonFacedGoon
r/iamverysmart
Dunes8
3LEKTR0NIK
No joke. Mensa means "stupid woman/girl" in Spanish.
Drewscifer
"I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers." - Stephen Hawking To The New York Times, December 2004
swinglinered
IQ is partly bunk. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James_Sidis
MediaMuerte
"I got 100 on the ASVAB"
CuddlyKitten
I took an online IQ test when I was 16 - scored 195, I was smart enough to know that was not a real result. Oh and the smart ass replying...
Tho funny.. They're incorrect! IQs are documented over 200 (around 225-230 is the highest documented) nowhere near 298 and def not this guy!
Sheepyhead
grendelgetskilledinthend
My credit score is 701. Does that count? (Breaking News: Experian got hacked again, hackers upped everyone’s credit scores as prank!)
FabulousMrDick
CMU huh? couldn't get into stanford, mit or cal tech? idiot...
ruritinian
Fun Fact: IQ always declines with age. If you live long enough you become a moron.
copingcabana
Intelligence =/= Knowledge. That's like saying a supercomputer is slow because it doesn't have software installed yet.
derscur
Probably watches Rick and Morty
TotalSmartAss
And SWEARS he could have built a better ____[insert invention]___ than Rick without even trying hard.
Mrbrown512
While the person responding has been studying futurama for decades
railgap
I went to a Mensa meeting as a very young almost-adult and was APPALLED at the lack of social skills in evidence. Never returned, no respect
manimatr0n
Also IQ measurements are about as scientifically rigorous as phrenology.
Dunning-Kruger Effect?
DarkSock
There can be only One...Trump has sent the black SUV’s to come snuff him
Taey0h
I love how every single comment that pokes a little fun at trump gets downvoted. It scares me just how delirious the world is.
It’s easier for Trumpanzees to double down on Stoopid than to admit they were conned and move on. Their fear & anger trumps reason & logic.
MissAizea
If someone calls themselves an intellectual, I'm going to assume they're a pretentious dumb ass
RoodKontjeAapje
I assume they never performed anything worthwhile in real life, not even high grades, and still want to think they're better than others.
Traja01
Particularly when followed by that syntax and diction: "...have a grasp to even talk to me" what the fuck.
DigitalWaffle
I have a FICO score of 990...
When mine hit 800 I was so happy I went out and added a bunch of new charges. It went down to 796
DontLookBackInAnger
Suuuuure you do
vonkeswick
Battlecrackers
Baktanfuli
If you are going to lie, why would you make a lie so exaggerated, that its obvious to all of us with an IQ of over 300, thats its a lie.
BananaForScaIe
The more outsized and grandiose the lie is what you mean. Which requires it be so huge that people believe it can't be a lie. IQ ain't that.
Ivoryspeak
I guess a *300* IQ doesn’t guarantee proper grammar, either.
SineYourPittyOnTheRunnyKine
got it the first time
notacobra
I'm not sure anyone with an IQ above 200 would ask a question so poorly worded.
mastertmo
Agreed!
rwgeaston
no one has an IQ over 200. the tests don't go that high. (it's more than 6 s.d.)
ConstantTacos
As a Mensa member, high IQ does not correlate to eloquence, charisma, critical thinking, or intelligence
nonamejanie
Hahahaha that’s hilarious but he really needs to seek a psychiatrist’s help.
Yea seriously. Delusions of grandeur, anti-social personality, sounds like a psychopath to me.
DoctorPitt
But realistically is someone with that level narcissism going to be able to recognize they should seek help?
Seems unlikely. He'll probably just get a job as a business executive.
DrunkKingOfImgur
I bet he's a real m'ladies-man...
MackenzieBowen
Ma'patche
LumpWithaLeafHat
And that man's name?
Cerinna
Yeah the use of words really gives it away doesn't it?
OriginalNameDoNotSteal
Some say he has a sick neckbeard, too bad it's been years since his neck has been seen...
pistachiomoustache
Not since the accident.
ThisGuyHere
Sometimes the neckbeard is the only way we can differentiate between neck and chin.
RenaissanceFaireMan
I'm not even sure how the phrase 'have a grasp' is being used here.
It's being used poorly.
LannistersSendTheirRetards
My IQ and credit score are probably in the same vicinity
paul289
Do you have a credit score?
RedIronCrown
Credit scores bottom out at 400, you must be awfully bright.
bonfirefun
He sounds like a very stable genius.
Barbarian90001
Still upset you lost the election? :D
thiscommentwillselfdestruct
If he were, he would LOVE the poorly-educated
MadMerlyn
He has the best words. The best words. You wouldn't believe how good his words are. The best words.
WillTheFifth
Let's not forget that he has one of the best memories of all time, and like, a really good brain.
MaximusUltima
UnsolicitedInsults
Excuse me
haha :-D
ghennypenny
Yes.
desdeqado
Maybe belongs in a stable
sprinckletitties
An IQ of 200 is almost physically impossible. If he really had one, he would be multiple times as intelligent as Newton.
CptSazerac
Tremendous!
@bonfirefun ironic, since you sound like a Low IQ Russian Collusion Democrat : D
Your great defense of Trump's idiotic statement is to attack me? Ain't gonna work.
beerbatteredkush
The smarter you are the more aware of how little you know. Only dumb people call them self smart.
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
"The more you learn, the less you know" my favorite quote and i dont know who said it.
iSoulend
so that's why orks says "me smart" so often
[deleted]
That's not even the statement I made. Sounds like you must be a very stable genius.
TylersSenseOfEnnui
Swing and a miss! Read all your replies to this comment of yours all 4 of then could enlighten you. They're smart but not "superior" smart.
GrammarBolshevik
Both of those men probably knew they wrestled with far above average intellects but never considered themselves superior in any sense
Emphasis again on the smarter you are the more you realize you don't know, this is doubly true for the realm of science
BluePineapple64
I think they knew better than most of us just how little we all know.
Underc0verGinger
It’s not that they don’t think they’re smart, it’s just they know they don’t know everything & wouldn’t brag about their intelligence.
serialv
Intelligence and knowledge are not the same thing.
potshot
the wiser you want to seem the more you generalize a group of people.
"A fool thinks himself a wiseman, a wiseman thinks himself a fool"
Machdisk112320
Eh, not quite. I know full well I'm intelligent. I'd be a terrible engineer if I wasn't. I am aware though I can be a moron. Not a wise man.
TakamiStitches
Once spent an hour in anxiety trying to answer when asked if I thought I was was smart or dumb because of this thought process.
alisongrace5656
Paradoxes can be mind blowing.
Dunning Kruger effect.
Lobuttomize
That only works one way
Both ways. Stupid people overestimate their intelligence, smart people underestimate it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16448310
"best and worst performers differ very little in accuracy, and on more difficult tasks, best performers are less accurate than worst perform
TheBlueMuppet
Way better than the Freddy Kruger effect. O_O
jackblade
"Mount Stupid"
OmegaZen
One thing smart people do is not follow absolutes like "only these people do this". That shit is really dumb lol.
Sweeping generalizations are idiotic.
NukerNoah
Every rule has an exception, no exceptions.
Shiggy345
I heard IQ tests are a dubious, outdated metric anyways.
JSBM
Serious IQ tests are useful and legitimate. However, IQ is not as fancy as we like to imagine it, and is not equal to "global intelligence".
ChrisMorray
I remember the test. It was simple stuff that anyone could do and I got a questionably high score for a guy who failed high scool grad twice
Zokalwe
They do a good job of measuring how good you are at IQ tests.
MetalPsychologist
Old IQ tests are outdated, but it’s regularly updated. However, it’s a very specific measurement of only a certain form of intelligence.
IProvideFakeContext
They're bullshit. I tested pretty high recently (130 or so), and I'm a complete fucking dumbass. I can not put into words how stupid I am.
FEMAcampsarereal
Found the person with the low IQ.
Arkians
Check out James Flynn's TED talk about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhW9uI&
AbeoLogos
Psychiatrist who tested me as a child apologized to my mother before telling her I was above average. Associated with emotional problems.
PaintedSlate
If you scored "above average," then she is correct in saying you scored "above average."
themojoe2
So that 7 I got is bullshit!
They aren't dubious, they're just not holistic. Defining intelligence is difficult and a quiz can't do it alone. That said, IQ tests are 1/2
Still very clever and do a great job profiling the types of intelligence they are designed to identify. Just don't presume they are perfect.
RedClaws23
They have a history of cultural bias and inconsistent scoring
ingelri
No they don't.
JesusMowsMyLawn
Today's IQ tests are normalized for culture, language, and all other outside factors. They have ones for people who can't read, see or hear.
ThatGuyVinny
The older you get the more it depends on the quality of education you got iirc
Bombpier
They give the tests to peolle outside the culture and language and say they low iq when the fail
MikaCvijet
I got points taken off for not knowing what a "dishwasher" was when I was 7. They aren't used in my country.
WhiteningMcClean
Took one once. Didn't take a genius to realize how silly it was.
MithrilKid
There's a lot of accuracy issues in really being able to quantify intelligence in an individual let alone an average
Nope, IQs is a highly accurate metric for intelligence, and a highly accurate predictor for success in life. And no, EQ is not real.
Throrf
IQ is an extremely powerful predictor of many things, but is insanely complicated.
MoreAshyThanLarry
Sauce?
To elaborate a little bit, IQ is a predictor of general intelligence, which is a more reliable predictor of success, health, longevity etc.
Scientific articles about IQ
Such as...?
Google scholar. This is easy to research, you don't need to have your hand held.
It's an entire body of research. "Neuroscience of intelligence" is a good recent book to get started on. Otherwise, Google scholar.
seedye
You can improve your score by 30 pts by studying, which makes it iffy as a proxy for innate brain capability.
comehomefransbrauder
Yes this. Went from 139 to 160 just from studying how they wanted me to think about a problem. Def a test on how well a person studies.
Cough *bullshit*! What?
Lol I promise! Mensa test. Such bullshit. Take the practice test. See what you got wrong. Study. Then take the real test. See what happens.
Dude, if you "study" for an IQ test of course you're gonna get more answers right. IQ is a very accurate metric for measuring intelligence.
How is studying for an IQ test different from education and experiences that prepare you to do better on an IQ test?
Studying for a subject *can* improve your IQ. Taking an IQ test *measures* it. They're different tests. If you memorise the answers of a...
...coming IQ test, you will obviously check more boxes correctly. If you go to Mensa and get tested, they're not going to let you do that...
...b/c it would skew the results - you've just memorised the questions on a test rather than letting the questions test your cognitive skill
Why do you think they memorized answers?
Kluehouse
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THEM BLIND THEY ARE DESIGNED TO GO IN BLIND
That's amazing. The test designed to study aptitude on an organ specifically designed to learn, remember, interpret, and contextualize new+
+information is only geared towards the human intellect being used improperly by pretending a single snapshot shows capability.
Sure, but nobody goes in as a blank slate. They had experiences & education. Not saying IQ tests are worthless, just that they’re limited.
but those are normed the problem is people don't follow the instructions and then use that a means to discredit the test
I don't know what use an IQ test has for an individual but I do know that across wide populations of people that are very accurate
SarahTheCuteVixen
Most of the stuff on them can be found on a kindergarten test, for a good reason, they were made to see if someone should go up the next 1/
grade level, however some rich bastards decided the tests should be used to see if minorites are dumber than them using knowledge the 2/
same minority group wouldn't know or at least that's what i learned from Adam Ruins Everything 3/3
bigdickdalrymple
Personally I found them both shallow and pedantic
PrematureAdjudication
Wintosha
Mm yes. Shallow and pedantic.
LiamNeesonOfficial
It's a reference to classic Family Guy. Peter pretends to be an intellectual and just repeats pompous intellectuals out of context.
MCNewYorkLives
Actually I think it was from good will hunting (Ben afflecks line)
Atomic2
Cant it be both?
Bootsy81
Scored low huh? ;)
NOOOO!!!..... shut up
Captainplanetmotherfucker
What the hell done rant mean?
CrownCrooked
Family Guy reference
Or a good will hunting reference
So was captain's comment hahaha
CommentMalone
What about them is outdated?
ifandonlyif
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Criticism_and_views
Iankill
One factor is people keep getting smarter so what iq of 100 means varies depending when you took the test
Yea, um no... real iq tests take your age into account... internet iq tests are bullshit.
tehdonno
Bullshit
tatopotato
If it eats enough, sure.
DeltaLaw
IQ score is shifted based on the current population so that 100 is always average.
They are also shifted based on age.
DrDresDog
Not really, studies have found that over time IQ scores are much higher in the last 40-50 yrs. Some link this to education, nutrition, etc.
LittleWheelsAndCactuss
BlueLola
People score higher and higher on intelligence tests but they adjust the norms accordingly. It's called the flynn effect
DrKriegersClone
Morherfuckers are out there eating tide pods for YouTube views. I don't think this species is actually getting smarter.
IAnswerToWhatever
The general complaint is that they only measure how good you are at taking IQ tests.
That can be said of many tests. But creating a situated judgement test isn’t a feasible thing to execute regularly.
DavidBrooker
That's the pithy way to put it. It measures what it has chosen to define as intelligence.
valen00
which are a generalised measure of intelligence, are they perfect? of course not but that doesn't mean they aren't useful.
f you gave doctors an IQ test odds are the majority of them would score above 100. If you do a well given test and get 60 perhaps being a/
Dr isn't going to be the easiest career path to follow. Having a bigger number doesn't make you a better person though, you can be a /
It's a general complaint made by the ignorant. IQ is a very accurate way to measure intelligence.
Goliath3111
(1) My biggest complaint is that it tries to measure something that has so many different forms. Everyone has different abilitys in
(2) Different feilds so why should everyone be standardised on the one test? On top of that it really brings out unfair bias between some
(3) people. Like this guy. What gives him the right to say hes any better then anyone else just because of a number on a standardised test
snackmanistan
IQ tests do give a good idea to the basic intelligence of someone as they test logic, problems solving, spacial awareness, etc. 1/?
There are other types of IQ tests, like the social IQ. But, the IQ test estimates the brain capacity to perform basic tasks & to learn 2/2
Psy student here, the iq tests aren't really outdated. They regularily make new norms. It's the psys that cbf to interpret them correctly. 1
CyrusTheOk
Practicing puzzles improves your IQ score, I don't think it's a useful measure of much at all.
criablelurst
Practice them and you improve your score...
And the people who seriously think you can paste an exact number on intelligence that are the issue. (Insanely short explenation) 2
There are many forms of intelligence. IQ test basically assess how fast people can solve certain puzzles.
A real iq test has different sections. I have a 78 on verbal comprehension and a 156 on logical reasoning with a 142 overall... 1/2
Internet iq tests are bullshit and give you little to no insite.
ordeith
The addition makes this believable, nothing like a shrink to sell some extratime. ;)
MrDeadsr
I've had the standard IQ test and one that was 1 on 1 with a specialist. Score was kinda the same. But the 1on1 gives extra info 1/2
Which is very important cause it explains stuff about the score and person etc 2/2
This! I have a 78 in verbal comprehension and a 156 in logical reasoning along with other metrics for a 142 overall.1/2
Spikelf
I was under the impression IQ test measure your ability to learn based on the base average of people your age/gender. True?
Learn, no. But yes, it's comparative.
Kind of. IQ tests logic, spacial awareness and problem solving, etc. Someone who does well with those things will inherently learn easier.
There’s some truth to that. A kid who scores 105 wouldn’t score 105 on an adult assessment. 100 is the average for the age group (SD of 15).
C0ffeePlays
Abbas Ndeli needs a better paint program.
ChameleonFacedGoon
r/iamverysmart
Dunes8
r/iamverysmart
3LEKTR0NIK
No joke. Mensa means "stupid woman/girl" in Spanish.
Drewscifer
"I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers." - Stephen Hawking To The New York Times, December 2004
swinglinered
IQ is partly bunk. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James_Sidis
MediaMuerte
"I got 100 on the ASVAB"
CuddlyKitten
I took an online IQ test when I was 16 - scored 195, I was smart enough to know that was not a real result. Oh and the smart ass replying...
CuddlyKitten
Tho funny.. They're incorrect! IQs are documented over 200 (around 225-230 is the highest documented) nowhere near 298 and def not this guy!
Sheepyhead
r/iamverysmart
grendelgetskilledinthend
My credit score is 701. Does that count? (Breaking News: Experian got hacked again, hackers upped everyone’s credit scores as prank!)
FabulousMrDick
CMU huh? couldn't get into stanford, mit or cal tech? idiot...
ruritinian
Fun Fact: IQ always declines with age. If you live long enough you become a moron.
copingcabana
Intelligence =/= Knowledge. That's like saying a supercomputer is slow because it doesn't have software installed yet.
derscur
Probably watches Rick and Morty
TotalSmartAss
And SWEARS he could have built a better ____[insert invention]___ than Rick without even trying hard.
Mrbrown512
While the person responding has been studying futurama for decades
railgap
I went to a Mensa meeting as a very young almost-adult and was APPALLED at the lack of social skills in evidence. Never returned, no respect
manimatr0n
Also IQ measurements are about as scientifically rigorous as phrenology.
Dunes8
Dunning-Kruger Effect?
DarkSock
There can be only One...Trump has sent the black SUV’s to come snuff him
Taey0h
I love how every single comment that pokes a little fun at trump gets downvoted. It scares me just how delirious the world is.
DarkSock
It’s easier for Trumpanzees to double down on Stoopid than to admit they were conned and move on. Their fear & anger trumps reason & logic.
MissAizea
If someone calls themselves an intellectual, I'm going to assume they're a pretentious dumb ass
RoodKontjeAapje
I assume they never performed anything worthwhile in real life, not even high grades, and still want to think they're better than others.
RoodKontjeAapje
I assume they never performed anything worthwhile in real life, not even high grades, and still want to think they're better than others.
Traja01
Particularly when followed by that syntax and diction: "...have a grasp to even talk to me" what the fuck.
DigitalWaffle
I have a FICO score of 990...
TotalSmartAss
When mine hit 800 I was so happy I went out and added a bunch of new charges. It went down to 796
DontLookBackInAnger
Suuuuure you do
vonkeswick
Battlecrackers
Baktanfuli
If you are going to lie, why would you make a lie so exaggerated, that its obvious to all of us with an IQ of over 300, thats its a lie.
BananaForScaIe
The more outsized and grandiose the lie is what you mean. Which requires it be so huge that people believe it can't be a lie. IQ ain't that.
Ivoryspeak
I guess a *300* IQ doesn’t guarantee proper grammar, either.
SineYourPittyOnTheRunnyKine
Ivoryspeak
got it the first time
notacobra
I'm not sure anyone with an IQ above 200 would ask a question so poorly worded.
mastertmo
Agreed!
rwgeaston
no one has an IQ over 200. the tests don't go that high. (it's more than 6 s.d.)
ConstantTacos
As a Mensa member, high IQ does not correlate to eloquence, charisma, critical thinking, or intelligence
nonamejanie
Hahahaha that’s hilarious but he really needs to seek a psychiatrist’s help.
Traja01
Yea seriously. Delusions of grandeur, anti-social personality, sounds like a psychopath to me.
DoctorPitt
But realistically is someone with that level narcissism going to be able to recognize they should seek help?
Traja01
Seems unlikely. He'll probably just get a job as a business executive.
DrunkKingOfImgur
I bet he's a real m'ladies-man...
MackenzieBowen
Ma'patche
LumpWithaLeafHat
And that man's name?
Cerinna
Yeah the use of words really gives it away doesn't it?
OriginalNameDoNotSteal
Some say he has a sick neckbeard, too bad it's been years since his neck has been seen...
pistachiomoustache
Not since the accident.
ThisGuyHere
Sometimes the neckbeard is the only way we can differentiate between neck and chin.
RenaissanceFaireMan
I'm not even sure how the phrase 'have a grasp' is being used here.
Traja01
It's being used poorly.
LannistersSendTheirRetards
My IQ and credit score are probably in the same vicinity
paul289
Do you have a credit score?
RedIronCrown
Credit scores bottom out at 400, you must be awfully bright.
bonfirefun
He sounds like a very stable genius.
Barbarian90001
Still upset you lost the election? :D
thiscommentwillselfdestruct
If he were, he would LOVE the poorly-educated
MadMerlyn
He has the best words. The best words. You wouldn't believe how good his words are. The best words.
WillTheFifth
Let's not forget that he has one of the best memories of all time, and like, a really good brain.
MaximusUltima
UnsolicitedInsults
Excuse me
bonfirefun
haha :-D
ghennypenny
Yes.
desdeqado
Maybe belongs in a stable
sprinckletitties
An IQ of 200 is almost physically impossible. If he really had one, he would be multiple times as intelligent as Newton.
CptSazerac
Tremendous!
Barbarian90001
@bonfirefun ironic, since you sound like a Low IQ Russian Collusion Democrat : D
bonfirefun
Your great defense of Trump's idiotic statement is to attack me? Ain't gonna work.
beerbatteredkush
The smarter you are the more aware of how little you know. Only dumb people call them self smart.
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
"The more you learn, the less you know" my favorite quote and i dont know who said it.
iSoulend
so that's why orks says "me smart" so often
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beerbatteredkush
That's not even the statement I made. Sounds like you must be a very stable genius.
TylersSenseOfEnnui
Swing and a miss! Read all your replies to this comment of yours all 4 of then could enlighten you. They're smart but not "superior" smart.
GrammarBolshevik
Both of those men probably knew they wrestled with far above average intellects but never considered themselves superior in any sense
GrammarBolshevik
Emphasis again on the smarter you are the more you realize you don't know, this is doubly true for the realm of science
BluePineapple64
I think they knew better than most of us just how little we all know.
Underc0verGinger
It’s not that they don’t think they’re smart, it’s just they know they don’t know everything & wouldn’t brag about their intelligence.
serialv
Intelligence and knowledge are not the same thing.
potshot
the wiser you want to seem the more you generalize a group of people.
GrammarBolshevik
"A fool thinks himself a wiseman, a wiseman thinks himself a fool"
Machdisk112320
Eh, not quite. I know full well I'm intelligent. I'd be a terrible engineer if I wasn't. I am aware though I can be a moron. Not a wise man.
TakamiStitches
Once spent an hour in anxiety trying to answer when asked if I thought I was was smart or dumb because of this thought process.
alisongrace5656
Paradoxes can be mind blowing.
RedIronCrown
Dunning Kruger effect.
Lobuttomize
That only works one way
RedIronCrown
Both ways. Stupid people overestimate their intelligence, smart people underestimate it.
Lobuttomize
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16448310
RedIronCrown
"best and worst performers differ very little in accuracy, and on more difficult tasks, best performers are less accurate than worst perform
TheBlueMuppet
Way better than the Freddy Kruger effect. O_O
jackblade
"Mount Stupid"
OmegaZen
One thing smart people do is not follow absolutes like "only these people do this". That shit is really dumb lol.
alisongrace5656
Sweeping generalizations are idiotic.
NukerNoah
Every rule has an exception, no exceptions.
Shiggy345
I heard IQ tests are a dubious, outdated metric anyways.
JSBM
Serious IQ tests are useful and legitimate. However, IQ is not as fancy as we like to imagine it, and is not equal to "global intelligence".
ChrisMorray
I remember the test. It was simple stuff that anyone could do and I got a questionably high score for a guy who failed high scool grad twice
Zokalwe
They do a good job of measuring how good you are at IQ tests.
MetalPsychologist
Old IQ tests are outdated, but it’s regularly updated. However, it’s a very specific measurement of only a certain form of intelligence.
IProvideFakeContext
They're bullshit. I tested pretty high recently (130 or so), and I'm a complete fucking dumbass. I can not put into words how stupid I am.
FEMAcampsarereal
Found the person with the low IQ.
Arkians
Check out James Flynn's TED talk about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhW9uI&
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AbeoLogos
Psychiatrist who tested me as a child apologized to my mother before telling her I was above average. Associated with emotional problems.
PaintedSlate
If you scored "above average," then she is correct in saying you scored "above average."
themojoe2
So that 7 I got is bullshit!
notacobra
They aren't dubious, they're just not holistic. Defining intelligence is difficult and a quiz can't do it alone. That said, IQ tests are 1/2
notacobra
Still very clever and do a great job profiling the types of intelligence they are designed to identify. Just don't presume they are perfect.
RedClaws23
They have a history of cultural bias and inconsistent scoring
ingelri
No they don't.
JesusMowsMyLawn
Today's IQ tests are normalized for culture, language, and all other outside factors. They have ones for people who can't read, see or hear.
ThatGuyVinny
The older you get the more it depends on the quality of education you got iirc
Bombpier
They give the tests to peolle outside the culture and language and say they low iq when the fail
MikaCvijet
I got points taken off for not knowing what a "dishwasher" was when I was 7. They aren't used in my country.
WhiteningMcClean
Took one once. Didn't take a genius to realize how silly it was.
MithrilKid
There's a lot of accuracy issues in really being able to quantify intelligence in an individual let alone an average
ingelri
Nope, IQs is a highly accurate metric for intelligence, and a highly accurate predictor for success in life. And no, EQ is not real.
Throrf
IQ is an extremely powerful predictor of many things, but is insanely complicated.
MoreAshyThanLarry
Sauce?
Throrf
To elaborate a little bit, IQ is a predictor of general intelligence, which is a more reliable predictor of success, health, longevity etc.
ingelri
Scientific articles about IQ
MoreAshyThanLarry
Such as...?
ingelri
Google scholar. This is easy to research, you don't need to have your hand held.
Throrf
It's an entire body of research. "Neuroscience of intelligence" is a good recent book to get started on. Otherwise, Google scholar.
seedye
You can improve your score by 30 pts by studying, which makes it iffy as a proxy for innate brain capability.
comehomefransbrauder
Yes this. Went from 139 to 160 just from studying how they wanted me to think about a problem. Def a test on how well a person studies.
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
Cough *bullshit*! What?
comehomefransbrauder
Lol I promise! Mensa test. Such bullshit. Take the practice test. See what you got wrong. Study. Then take the real test. See what happens.
ingelri
Dude, if you "study" for an IQ test of course you're gonna get more answers right. IQ is a very accurate metric for measuring intelligence.
seedye
How is studying for an IQ test different from education and experiences that prepare you to do better on an IQ test?
ingelri
Studying for a subject *can* improve your IQ. Taking an IQ test *measures* it. They're different tests. If you memorise the answers of a...
ingelri
...coming IQ test, you will obviously check more boxes correctly. If you go to Mensa and get tested, they're not going to let you do that...
ingelri
...b/c it would skew the results - you've just memorised the questions on a test rather than letting the questions test your cognitive skill
seedye
Why do you think they memorized answers?
Kluehouse
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THEM BLIND THEY ARE DESIGNED TO GO IN BLIND
manimatr0n
That's amazing. The test designed to study aptitude on an organ specifically designed to learn, remember, interpret, and contextualize new+
manimatr0n
+information is only geared towards the human intellect being used improperly by pretending a single snapshot shows capability.
seedye
Sure, but nobody goes in as a blank slate. They had experiences & education. Not saying IQ tests are worthless, just that they’re limited.
Kluehouse
but those are normed the problem is people don't follow the instructions and then use that a means to discredit the test
Kluehouse
I don't know what use an IQ test has for an individual but I do know that across wide populations of people that are very accurate
SarahTheCuteVixen
Most of the stuff on them can be found on a kindergarten test, for a good reason, they were made to see if someone should go up the next 1/
SarahTheCuteVixen
grade level, however some rich bastards decided the tests should be used to see if minorites are dumber than them using knowledge the 2/
SarahTheCuteVixen
same minority group wouldn't know or at least that's what i learned from Adam Ruins Everything 3/3
bigdickdalrymple
Personally I found them both shallow and pedantic
PrematureAdjudication
Wintosha
Mm yes. Shallow and pedantic.
LiamNeesonOfficial
It's a reference to classic Family Guy. Peter pretends to be an intellectual and just repeats pompous intellectuals out of context.
MCNewYorkLives
Actually I think it was from good will hunting (Ben afflecks line)
Atomic2
Cant it be both?
Bootsy81
Scored low huh? ;)
bigdickdalrymple
NOOOO!!!..... shut up
Captainplanetmotherfucker
What the hell done rant mean?
CrownCrooked
Family Guy reference
MCNewYorkLives
Or a good will hunting reference
bigdickdalrymple
So was captain's comment hahaha
CommentMalone
What about them is outdated?
ifandonlyif
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Criticism_and_views
Iankill
One factor is people keep getting smarter so what iq of 100 means varies depending when you took the test
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
Yea, um no... real iq tests take your age into account... internet iq tests are bullshit.
tehdonno
Bullshit
tatopotato
If it eats enough, sure.
DeltaLaw
IQ score is shifted based on the current population so that 100 is always average.
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
They are also shifted based on age.
DrDresDog
Not really, studies have found that over time IQ scores are much higher in the last 40-50 yrs. Some link this to education, nutrition, etc.
LittleWheelsAndCactuss
BlueLola
People score higher and higher on intelligence tests but they adjust the norms accordingly. It's called the flynn effect
DrKriegersClone
Morherfuckers are out there eating tide pods for YouTube views. I don't think this species is actually getting smarter.
IAnswerToWhatever
The general complaint is that they only measure how good you are at taking IQ tests.
MetalPsychologist
That can be said of many tests. But creating a situated judgement test isn’t a feasible thing to execute regularly.
DavidBrooker
That's the pithy way to put it. It measures what it has chosen to define as intelligence.
valen00
which are a generalised measure of intelligence, are they perfect? of course not but that doesn't mean they aren't useful.
valen00
f you gave doctors an IQ test odds are the majority of them would score above 100. If you do a well given test and get 60 perhaps being a/
valen00
Dr isn't going to be the easiest career path to follow. Having a bigger number doesn't make you a better person though, you can be a /
ingelri
It's a general complaint made by the ignorant. IQ is a very accurate way to measure intelligence.
Goliath3111
(1) My biggest complaint is that it tries to measure something that has so many different forms. Everyone has different abilitys in
Goliath3111
(2) Different feilds so why should everyone be standardised on the one test? On top of that it really brings out unfair bias between some
Goliath3111
(3) people. Like this guy. What gives him the right to say hes any better then anyone else just because of a number on a standardised test
snackmanistan
IQ tests do give a good idea to the basic intelligence of someone as they test logic, problems solving, spacial awareness, etc. 1/?
snackmanistan
There are other types of IQ tests, like the social IQ. But, the IQ test estimates the brain capacity to perform basic tasks & to learn 2/2
BlueLola
Psy student here, the iq tests aren't really outdated. They regularily make new norms. It's the psys that cbf to interpret them correctly. 1
CyrusTheOk
Practicing puzzles improves your IQ score, I don't think it's a useful measure of much at all.
criablelurst
Practice them and you improve your score...
BlueLola
And the people who seriously think you can paste an exact number on intelligence that are the issue. (Insanely short explenation) 2
MetalPsychologist
There are many forms of intelligence. IQ test basically assess how fast people can solve certain puzzles.
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
A real iq test has different sections. I have a 78 on verbal comprehension and a 156 on logical reasoning with a 142 overall... 1/2
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
Internet iq tests are bullshit and give you little to no insite.
ordeith
The addition makes this believable, nothing like a shrink to sell some extratime. ;)
MrDeadsr
I've had the standard IQ test and one that was 1 on 1 with a specialist. Score was kinda the same. But the 1on1 gives extra info 1/2
MrDeadsr
Which is very important cause it explains stuff about the score and person etc 2/2
TheBestThingOnCHIVEwheneverIFeelLikeIt
This! I have a 78 in verbal comprehension and a 156 in logical reasoning along with other metrics for a 142 overall.1/2
Spikelf
I was under the impression IQ test measure your ability to learn based on the base average of people your age/gender. True?
JSBM
Learn, no. But yes, it's comparative.
snackmanistan
Kind of. IQ tests logic, spacial awareness and problem solving, etc. Someone who does well with those things will inherently learn easier.
MetalPsychologist
There’s some truth to that. A kid who scores 105 wouldn’t score 105 on an adult assessment. 100 is the average for the age group (SD of 15).