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srsgiraffe
Meanwhile in Madagascar
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AwesomeName
Self-reported, probably.
Thickinthewarm
I'm going to assume this was created in the US. In their eyes the US is No. 1 by default. In reality, they seldom are.
Svartlebee
That Sweden one aged like fine wine.
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
I mean, the US had so much going for it. We *were* well prepared. The Trump admin. ignored most of that preparation because it was put in>
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
>place by a guy who makes him feel like a sad salmon.
Panma98
Laughs in Norway, where less people died in 2020 than the average of the past couple years
amundost
Being prepared and pulling it of are different things. As mike said:"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"
Tiredoftrouble101
Mike Ehrmantraut?
wibbIywobbIytimeywimey
*meanwhile in New Zealand*
ObsidianChef
Sweden and Norway is reversed. Sweden FUCKED up badly.
DavidJackel
In the UK a lot of our preparations and planning was mainly for a flu pandemic. Turns out Covid ain't flu....
NotoriousDuchess
Be that as it may, we've seen in this pandemic that the real impact comes from the actions taken by whoever is currently governing.
JeevesMk2
We'd have been fine if we didn't have a numpty in charge who kept ignoring scientific advice in favour of political expediency.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Sweden ended up a lot worse than Norway, God knows why they said Russia, France and Italy were more prepared too
Pseudomenos
Sweden has more cases per capita than Italy
saalor
Much less deaths though, this indicates differences in testing.
Pseudomenos
If you mean that sweden tested more that is not true. It may mean lots of things, from different way to register deaths to strain virulence
weirdnorwegianguy
*laughs in nørwegian*
bond674
*Laughs in proper Norwegian* Vi skriver ikke engelsk feil med vilje for pokker.
weirdnorwegianguy
Jo det gjør vi tenk!!!!
UncleRat
The next big war will start with a biological attack; The United States will be wiped off the map because of stupid people. We've seen it.
drunkwaffle
In theory that seems correct. In practice the US had Donald tRump and the Republicunts.
MissPeabody
tRump...giggles
PhillipBanks
Who disbanded the US' Pandemic Response Unit, the highest rated in the world btw, because they thought it was a waste of tax money. Oops.
Myfirstgirlfriendturnedintothemoon
It didn't just get the US wrong. Most of Africa did amazing. And NZ was perfect.
thegreatcnut
Nah, most of Africa just didn't report numbers
SpitMatt
Us Maltese were extremely prepared. And then Italy happened :(
TanithRosenbaum
Could you elaborate a bit, I didn't follow what happened in your country.
SpitMatt
We closed down the airport immediately last March (or Feb, I forgot). The problem was a few Italians already here that had covid incubating
TanithRosenbaum
Ah fuck, that sucks balls. I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope you and your family are alright. All the best from Germany :)
SpitMatt
Well, besides a couple cancelled trips and general inconvenience we're all fine tnks. Waiting for the call to get my vaccine jab ;)
TanithRosenbaum
Ah good, I'm glad.
1smrtcdnguy127001
Greenland isn't included because it has a population of 132 and 120 of those are polar bears
LeMegachonk
It's missing "Prepared, but prepared to fuck it up on purpose to soothe a madman's ego"?
HavetsHerren
LOL for France who fucked it up good, England who managed to do even worse, and Norway and NZ who nailed it.
Shaodyn
America is only prepared for war. Nothing else.
afatrollofmyown
War and punishment is all america knows how to do.
Hufflepufflerine
LOL France and Britain
PantLord
Take the fucking U.K. off there. Our government left us to the Wolves because they were to incompetent to keep us safe. Fuck the Tories.
NeverShaveYourDuck
Are you missing the point that it was the world's WRONGEST infographic? The UK is appropriately marked wrongly as "Most prepared".
NotoriousDuchess
Honestly it's hard to see how they could have been more useless. The only one who was decent was Rishi.
PantLord
His ear out to help out bullshit massively increased deaths because the economy is more important to him than the people who drive it.
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PantLord
Oh yeah that makes up for keeping the borders, funnelling billions that should have gone to the NHS to their mates, lying to get Brexit (1/2
PantLord
all the nepotism, misleading MPs, gerrymandering, and too many other things to list. But yeah we are “lucky” that they did the bare minimum.
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PantLord
Ok fair enough. There’s just too many ppl saying “give Boris a break because we aren’t ALL broke and dead yet.” Sorry for pouncing.
afatrollofmyown
In America, we got 0% pay, and had to go back to work. Fuck your tories, for sure, but our democrats couldn't even do that.
JohnSmithterms
America is such a fuckin weird place and in a weird state of play in this timeline.
ShadeEmberi
now now they always make the right decision....4 weeks after when it was needed
madeejit
It was quite a rollercoaster there. UK is crushing vaccine rollout compared to a lot of the west though.
eggscanfly
People seem to forget though that the purpose of a vaccine is to save lives & the economy... but we've already fucked up both.
Superbobbit
They took a risk jumping the gun on vaccine. It's worked out thank god, but we're waiting 12 weeks for 2nd shots, not the reccomend 3.
siberianhufky
There’s data coming out that a 12 week gap may be more effective. Boris accidentally shit a golden egg as it could have ended up ineffective
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Boris' entire political career is based on the fact that he seems to be unreasonably lucky
Voidhawk42
That's cause the NHS is fucking genius, and for once the gov decided to not touch it. Everything else has been murder-by-proxy.
HeinekenBottle
Yes but have you noticed how it’s being reported? NHS track and trace vs Government Vaccine scheme... you can see what they’re trying to do
Compo1130
The public did most of the damage by disregarding the rules. Boris could have done a lot differently but the fact is a lot won't follow.
LicensedAdHominem
The government's purpose is to organize, clearly define and enforce the rules.
Wordsmeannothing
Boris and the government fucked it from the off. Dont blame the people when there is such poor leadership.
BeardedAssassin
And the people having parties and flocking to beaches in droves are not to blame? Blaming it all on the government is a cop-out
PantLord
The fact that ppl fucked up too doesn’t excuse that hes the one whos supposed to know better. He fucked up. Don’t make excuses for the cunt
Wordsmeannothing
Not providing a consistent and strong message it what the problem is. I am old enough to remember the aids campaign. Boris fucked it!
PantLord
Could have closed the borders, could have gone for zero COVID rather than herd immunity, funnelled literal billions to his mates. (1/2)
TheFishFace
Boris' worst error was loosening up too soon. UK entered restrictions in a similar way to other places, but wasted time over summer.
PantLord
People could have done more but let’s not cut Boris slack when he is responsible for making this waaaaaayyyy worse than it should have been.
Wordsmeannothing
Telling people to go back to the office, telling people to go to the pub, telling parents to send their kids to school. What a that!
JosephCabbage
The "Eat Out to Help Out" thing was BEYOND stupid! "We'll pay half your bill to go outside" and THEN blamed it on the public when No. spiked
Omegarighteous
The UK has never been prepared in the slightest, a toddler could of made better decisions than BoJo
fentproptrac
We’d prepared for the wrong pandemic. Planning for flu rather than SARS type illness
ImHereToTellYouThatsWrong
After Cygnus they continued limiting NHS seasonal flu capacity, after the exercise showed even a flu pandemic would put it overcapacity. A
ImHereToTellYouThatsWrong
single way, for context, they didn't even plan for the flu we expected was ventilator availability.
grubben
Also both can affect both upper and lower respiratory tract and so both possibly require ventilators. Literally there is no difference.
LordNergal
You're even less prepared for Smallpox 4 when that evolves. -Your reptilian alien overlords
grubben
This was a complete bullshit statement from Gove. The PPE required is exactly the same and so we prepared for both. Disgusted he wasnt 1/2
grubben
Called out on this, and horrified that people seem to take what he says at face value. 2/2
fentproptrac
R0 much lower for influenza, ventilator days lower too. It’s not just PPE availability that’s affected
grubben
Right... that's not the case for every influenza first off all so immediately this doesn't work, the Ro is different for every flu virus 1/2
grubben
If the Ro is high enough for a flu epidemic in the UK, its going to be at least comparable to covid's. Please do not ever listen to the 1/2
ozbatman
As an Australian, I am laughing hysterically that this shows America as “most prepared.”
TurdBurglar3000
Learn to read. Nowhere it says they were "most prepared", just that they had the ability to respond to a pandemic. Which they failed to use.
makky0
Yes normally those who are well prepared are very different to those with a good ability to respond
GravyEducation
No one in America with a brain thought it was going to end well
LordNergal
Don't forget the UK, which is in roughly the same boat.
DatDarthCaedus
They were quite well prepared, it's just that the president and his administration intentionally sabotaged the response for their own 1/
DatDarthCaedus
political and economical gain; shit like denying aid to states who didn't vote Trump, Kushner refusing to share the stockpile intended 2/
DatDarthCaedus
for situations like this, them telling states they have to buy their own supplies only for the feds to seize said supplies and resell, etc.
getadogupya
They had the tools... unfortunately the biggest tool was President at the time.
hufflesnuff
Trump fucked up bigly. But let's be real. You can't have an effective pandemic response in a country without a proper healthcare system.
MrListerTheFirst
The order the legend is in makes me want to cry.
Totsmacgee
Does you want to cry most, more or least?
Tubularballs
Yeah, that’s a car wreck.
PianoMan2112
The order is right; the words are wrong.
JollyJokzr
Should be Prepared, Less prepared, Least Prepared
AntiProtonBoy
What’s wrong? It’s in descending order.
getadogupya
People read top to bottom... it goes from most prepared to more prepared.
asmallcat
Right, First, Second, Third. It makes sense.
zachtidmore
I produce maps professionally, and that is exactly how we would order that legend.
AntiProtonBoy
I read top to bottom too. Not hard to figure out it’s descending order.
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Lol more than most... orrrr?
bknice02
“Ranked by ability”. Not “Ranked by actually being prepared and doing something about it”. Had the ability, just didn’t want to
dasklaus
I'm sorry, in what world did China have less ability than the US? They built entire hospitals in days! That is just not possible elsewhere.
Leithreas
It's still wrong, because most of Africa did a pretty great job.
Gorapora
If you're not politically or socially able than you're not able.
afatrollofmyown
All the ability to fight, all the armor, none of the will.
AwesomeName
RackhamTheRed
I memeber the ppl on here cheering for cheap housing to come true. That also aged well
boblives
Yeah, New Zealand and Italy were ranked the same but with 2 completely different results
Counterfit
Italy got cought by surprise, unfortunately
boblives
Yeah makes sense, but that's like part of being prepared trying to detect an outbreak before it becomes wide spread
Counterfit
How can you detect something you don't know exists?
boblives
You probably need a plan, like to check if stuff is getting weird
spudpicker
I was about to laugh at you, but did some research first. Looks like it was circulating in Italy as early as Sept. That IS a surprise.
spudpicker
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/coronavirus-italy-covid-19-pandemic-europe-date-antibodies-study
DrSparken
Not as early as sept, just that the study these came from started then. Earliest were in october, which is still very odd; not impossible, >
DrunkRightNow
Prepared doesn't equate to using that preparation. Stockpiling food for the apocalypse is no use when you don't stay there.
Awmph
They didn't realize they needed to rank political preparedness as well.
Gorapora
If you're not politically or socially able then you're not able.
torillatavataan
They were prepared. They had contingency plans. They. Had. An. Otterhugging. Pandemic Playbook. Which they tossed into the fire in 2017.
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ElroydIsGone
Ah, yes, it was even established by Bush jr. already, right? And then updated by Obama, so not even a dreaded pure "Buh Obama-thingy".
ElroydIsGone
Like stockpiling canned food for a generation, but the only can opener left had "Obama" engraved on it, so they threw it away.
OlderWiser
I stockpiled food and stayed home mostly. Now I have a lot of food I need to eat at home so I have that going for me which is nice.
creamyt
Right. The US had resources available. Hard to use those effectively when half the population is campaigning against basic hygiene (masks).
creamyt
It's just so. fucking. mind boggling.
SheepPoster
Had a basement filled with canned goods. Put a guy in charge who couldn't figure out how to use a can opener. You know who you are.
Lampmonster
On one of those doom prepper shows one guy had diabetes. He knew he was toast in a week but had food for a year lol.
Nopearope
He understood the need for abandoned stockpiles for scavengers.
Einherion
Gotta get my legendary quests somehow.
ThatShiftyMonkey
Trade food for insulin.
Iusethisreallylongusernamebecauseihavenocluewhatusernametouse
Got to be refrigerated ?
ThatShiftyMonkey
Trade sexual favors for refrigeration.
areyouelonmusk
US had the resources, our shit president didn't use them and also spread lies and fueled fake outrage.
somtin
Mostly it was to avoid looking weak and losing poll numbers.When that didn't work it turned into an excuse to rack up political retribution
ApotheosisCM
What's extra frustrating is that it's a stupid political decision. If just shuts the fuck up and lets us beat the virus, he wins reelection.
sharK11
He even blocked the use and execution of actions that would have saved lives, he literally was worse than if he had done nothing at all.
Feldspartacus
Lol, same for everything he's ever done. What a fucking tool
echonite
He could have done nothing, let the experts do their job, and he probably would have won reelection.
MrBoh
But that would require not getting all the attention and it's too risky that someone else might get credit . So here we are
longshorttermmemorynetwork
Yeah, but also we weren't prepared either.
JustABookworm
No one was really prepared, the map is more of a comparison of who was the most prepared, and I guess US is included in that.
MollyInanna
New coat of red all over that baby
speckledorfed
Vietnam has controlled Covid surprisingly well
MagnorCriol
Except for New Zealand!
RadicalLeftist
Not australia. We fucked covid up buddy!
AgeisFang
WA here, amen buddy!!
Imakethingsweird
Not even the virus could survive Australia, apparently
bolobass
Don't pretend you're New Zealand ya poser
skellington01
I’m assuming you mean the US.
braidedeagle
Northern Ireland has also been doing better than the whole of the UK
RADICALFREEDOM
How crazy is that? I’m first gen American, family left NI during the Troubles and I’ve been looking at NI like “damn, should prolly go back”
braidedeagle
I mean, the NI Executive has kinda fucked everything else but the pandemic has been handled pretty well.
RADICALFREEDOM
If you do *everything* right all at once, people will get suspicious.
braidedeagle
It's all DUP bullshit mostly. We only got equal marriage rights and abortion rights due to them taking a near 3 year break.
mynamespaul
And NI is doing pretty fucking shit, so that’s saying an awful lot!
braidedeagle
Compared to say, NZ, sure. But compared to the UK as a whole? We rule. Also we have one of the best vaccine roll outs in the world.
mynamespaul
I’m mostly thinking compared to the rest of Ireland
braidedeagle
Compared to ROI we have had less deaths, I know population is less up here, and more vaccinated. I'd call that better handled.
AntiProtonBoy
*Laughs in Australian*
meloncauly
We were lucky, not prepared.
Zeefox
No, don’t fall for that misconception. Oz implemented ‘pandemic 101’ and it worked. Pretty much everyone else fucked it. Fucked it badly.
SlappedStupid
My uni had info sessions about the virus on 3 consecutive days in March. The first 2, they assured us that in-person classes would go ->
SlappedStupid
ahead until at least late may, & possibly until august, because that's what the gov was recommending. On the third session, they announced->
SlappedStupid
that in-person classes were cancelled, & everyone had 24 hours to figure out how to deliver all content online. That first couple of ->
kystos
*coughs in french*
brianthefly
Royoffinland
*Laughs nervously in Finlandian*
GlutenfreeBootsInPuss
*Coughs in Suomi"
MattHolmberg
*gets plague, survives maybe, then goes bankrupt in American*
divahengel
At least we have toilet paper! Right? ......right? Well shit
Cedr3000
therefor the toiletpaper
mikexloo
*Laughs awkwardly in Brazilian"
SheTurnedMeIntoANewtButIGotBetter
*cries in Portuguese*
VaultGirl69
Korea. One of the few places where the yellow is right next to the red.
yoshimaruTERA
*Murmuring "That could've been us" in Japanese*
metalrulercid
Watches Australian betting eastern by spider while laughing
makky0
Betting eastern
metalrulercid
Yeah, it's funny know why being eaten was such a problem
conflictmuffins
*sad American noises*
incendiumsatus
Totally disagree with having AU as Most Prepared. Hardly. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming. Ruby Princess anyone?
underestimated37
Dan Andrews dragged the rest of the country kicking and screaming into compliance, he cops way too much bad press
Potatopeelerkind
I mean, sure, we messed up at the start, and the Federal government has been useless, but the state govs have mostly been on top of things.
incendiumsatus
State Govts (NSW here nor there) were brilliant when they realised Scomo was using the Trump playbook.
minPD0309
I’m so happy I live in Perth
makky0
As a Melbournite, lobe how I saw your comment with '3h' next to it.
MyWifeCallsMeChungus
Melbournian I think is correct.
makky0
I think 'fun at parties' is correct
MyWifeCallsMeChungus
Had a friend move to Exmouth from our place in Melbourne. Few of weeks later we started the first lockdown. No gonna lie I was pretty jelly.
JoRo13377331
*confused German* ... was off to a good start but messed up at some point summer/autumn 2020
LordSkippyTheMagnificent
You travelling right now? I could read this script in Northern Hemispheric.
WoefulWombat
Northern hemispheric?
LordSkippyTheMagnificent
Not upside down
CheeseBelongsInTheKitten
Australia is currently at less than 1 community transmission a day (though that might change very soon). Point is we are doing well.
dizzydiver2853
Sorry https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-12/brisbane-hospital-lockdown-doctor-covid/13244616
CheeseBelongsInTheKitten
That’s the “though that might change soon” part...
underestimated37
Honestly with the federal government forcing us to open up before people are immune it’ll rise again
ReallyNotSure
Greenland lol
ArandomDane
Most of these infographs does not want to deal with Greenland as part of the kingdom of Denmark.
TMccl
They have like what, 10 people living there?
myamazeballz
Grayland
LiarLiarPantsUntier
They have too much alcohol in their blood for the Rona to survive, or their liver.
HannibalHoseth
Greenland is part of the realm of Denmark so....
somethingdark
Greenland is notorious for never providing information
undungubungu
Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but is mostly self-governed. They are getting vaccines from Denmark's supply. So same as DK.
undungubungu
I'll also add they are getting vaccines according to their relative size and demographic. This includes Faroe Islands.
ricpaul
Everyone lives 6ft (or over 1.5 meters) apart. There is no virus there. Or am I sounding like Trump now?
Topi41
Im sorry - the plague you have requested is not available in your country.
RPCharImages
Greenland doesn't exist, change my mind
skellington01
“Pandemic? Y’all are having a pandemic?”
Odincdaj522004
No one lives there except that weird old dude and his bone.
MellifluousJoker
NK making it into the map tho
counterintel
Greenland's not real.
Thewayofthebear
It's not even green
FunmonkeyCT
It’s not even land.
swagmastayoloslaya
Cmon maan not cool
PieMasterOfTheRealm
Iceland is full of volcanoes too. It's all LIES!
laiskamato
Fire and Ice!
Marmz2016
And the United Kingdom is FAR from united!
LackadasicalGoblin
Its all CGI!
Pheehelm
threelittledwarfs
Shouldn't that be 'Green' ?
Pala2
No data
InqSerena
What is way funnier than its allowed to be!
EchoWhiskyBravo
That’s really amazing.
PlankTableGo
Remember when he cancelled a meeting with the leader of Denmark because they wouldn't sell Greenland to the USA?
snarkybat
He cancelled on the Queen. She is apolitical, so it was quite the diplomatic slap in the face. We all know she was actually relieved, though
JustAnotherVictimOfAmbientMorality
Greenland had 1 port, and it's locked now.
flounder35
Greenland is owned by Denmark. So it should be yellow.
ArandomDane
Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark not owned.... If you please.
cbmech7
'member when Stupid was trying to buy Greenland from Denmark? He was like, I give you tree fiddy for Greenland, best deal ever
EchoWhiskyBravo
For now . . .
ElroydIsGone
They are self-governed since '79. Btw, they are not part of the EU, although belonging to an EU member. They left the EC in '85 after >
ElroydIsGone
a referendum, but still have special status (eligible for EU funding and they are still EU citizens). Kinda weird status, but apparently OK.
Jrhoney
Minimal population and infrastructure means it isn't on the same level as Denmark.
ArandomDane
Minimal population and infrastructure means the resources required is less than the rest of the Kingdom. Not that we let part of our (1/2)
ArandomDane
(2/2) kingdom be unprepared.
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flounder35
Then who do we talk to about buying it?
witheredspoon
Pay the owner twice the rent. If unowned, you may buy it from the bank.
wishIcouldthinkofsomething
Owned? Dafuq??
Musicosity
Yes, owned
snarkybat
Nope, not "owned" but technically part of the Danish Kingdom. They have their own government though, but receives a lot of support from DK >
snarkybat
> because DK earlier (and sometimes still) treat the former colony like utter shit. It's very shameful, tbh.
wishIcouldthinkofsomething
I'm Danish.
twozerooz
Denmark owns Greenland like the UK owns Canada/Australia. Lol.
undungubungu
Without it, they would not be able to function as a coherent country.
twozerooz
Kind of like EU countries rely on the EU for foreign policy and grants?
undungubungu
Not really. Greenland would disolve and its soveignty would be up for grabs without DK's assistance.
undungubungu
Not quite. Denmark is responsible for Greenland's internal and external security and foreign policy. Also gives annual allowance of $500 mil
Anonanimal3000
Denmark, senpai, can I have an allowance too?
DroolingYeastman
In 10-20 years when we have paid our dept after covid
thescyllaandcharybdis
Even though the Danes own Is imagine it doesn’t have the infrastructure to respond though hospitals/nurses/doctors
ArandomDane
As part of the kingdom, resources are moved where needed. Just like if USA was functioning. So it is absurd to make the distinction for(1/2)
ArandomDane
the Kingdom of Denmark, while CA and Florida is painted with the same brush...
LongCommentChainAppreciator
Not really. They are isolated the moment planes and boats stop coming.
Kongur
It's fine, Denmark is a rich capitalist free market economy, the inut are treated like any other dane.
flounder35
they do have a ton of ice though. So they're prepared for the J&J vaccine.
LongCommentChainAppreciator
Ah yes, the miraculous -50 degree ice of Greenland.
bolobass
Jack&Jim?
flounder35
Johnson and Johnson. It’s a one dose vaccine. It only requires the temperatures of a regular refrigerator.
VeryUniqueName
We don't own Greenland, and did treat them shamefully when they were our colony. What you said is a big yikes if you know the history.
Vikingess
Owns? Nope says a Dane.
Soppa76
Ice prepared
IamNotAshamed
I've read somewhere that greenland is excluded from a lot of maps like this because it's relevance is almost zero compared to it's size.
randomwalrus
I read that the real reason is because it is infested with wereseals, who eat the flesh off of wandering census takers, and statisticians.
PianoMan2112
You’ve obviously never played Plague, Inc.
Kinkyfuck
im old as fuck, i remeber when it was pandemic instead of plague inc
TeflonTrout
Always, ALWAYS start in Greenland
Derginsdrogalot
Fucking. Greenland.
Trustmebecausereasons
It probably still hasn’t affected Greenland...
Cole2999
"covid what?"
swagmastayoloslaya
31 had covid throughout the pandemic all of them healthy now.
CramSandwichandaNukaCola
They shut down their port when someone sneezed in Wuhan.
CaeJay
*cries in Madagascar*
somethingawesomeandgreat
In real life, there’s a raging plague epidemic in madagascar
JustAnotherCynicToo
General: Boss, someone in Chile sneezes one too many times. Big Boss (Wo)Man: LOCK! IT! ALL! DOWN!
UnitConversionBotButTerrible
The carribean! How? I got madagascar and greenland! FUuuuuu...
voguemouse
Sweden didn't quite live up to the graph
GnomeHomo
The Swedes just decided to solve the pension crisis while they were at it.
DigiT00l
Only NZ did, and they over performed
LordNergal
Neither did the UK.
sjg1711350
We seem to be doing pretty OK for now, slow start. Veeeeery slow start
crashmat
Now we are, after we killed a load of folks at the start
Bigcurly2000
"Slow start" is a pretty forgiving way of saying "a criminal level of incompetence and callousness"
Cruxador
This image is almost the exact opposite of what actually happened.
TablesBobbyTables
Sometimes your best is still crap
Lord0ctopus
Neither did France...
molg
Sweden had a excess mortality rate of 7,6 %. That's better than 22 other European countries. Only 8 EU countries did better than Sweden.
molg
During 2020 that is. Explanation to what excess mortaility rate is: https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
Caramster
Hey, think of the ignorants will you? Don't come here with facts and ruining their fun.
Erbbo
Finland didn’t either. Our govt still has no clue what to do!
Caramster
You do?
Monsignore
Idk man. I'd say our constitutional lawyers have done everything in their power to ruin shit. We still can't force test on the borders, 1/2
Monsignore
Because, of, apparently, some obscure passage in the constitution nobody gives a shit about. 2/2
WinchesterTavern
TurdBurglar3000
In all fairness, they didn't even seem to want to particularly curb the pandemic.
DavosTheOnionKnight
Precisely. That was their plan all along. Let it burn through the population fast and then get back to work. It worked, but the sacrifice
DavosTheOnionKnight
was more than could be tolerated in retrospect.
DongSayaDae
Worked? Shits still rampant basically everywhere lol
DongSayaDae
Nvm I'm dumb and can't read..
NotoriousBadassWhoLovesMusicals
But... they are still not back to work.
KattenGustafsson
Most industrial workers never left work so you are kind of wrong
Pseudomenos
I would say that it didn't work
DavosTheOnionKnight
Because they abandoned it after several months. It was working but people were dying in higher numbers than a civilized society would accept
Caramster
The ignorance is strong with this one
jp189512
Didn't Sweden do even less than the US? Like literally nothing?
Trunkmonkay
Sweden gambled on transmitted herd immunity when there was 0 science to support the practice.
BortymcBortfeis
Not quite
ILikeFugu
Sweden's response was mostly soft measures rather than hard. Think "please stay at home and be careful" rather than mandatory lockdown
Trinns
They even argued against mask usage arguing it could increase the spread.
DaveTheScientist
Not nothing, but very little. It did not go well.
PaleAsFuck
We still not doing Good.
DaveTheScientist
How's your vaccine rollout going? Hopefully that will put an end to things soon.
PaleAsFuck
It's going slow but it's going. Hopefully I get mine one April because I'm in a risk group
TheBlackKaiser
Did go better then the US. A healthier population and sick time is useful... different baselines.
DaveTheScientist
Exactly, plus universal health care. Comparisons are tricky, but it's safe to say it didn't go well in either country.
ILikeFugu
Sweden had a good idea in theory. Unfortunately "pretty please stay at home" doesn't work on its own
probert1337
Sweden’s response was and still is horrendous in so many aspects, I’m ashamed every day over my countrymen and sad that so many had to die..
RackhamTheRed
Why was that even "good in theory"? As if ppl were smart and responsible
DongSayaDae
It let's business and everything function and not shutdown, so it is good in theory, issue is people ignoring it or not knowing they have it
DongSayaDae
Lots of things are great and amazing in theory, but falls apart when put into practice (often times because humans gotta human or so)
filmjolk
Was also more of a legal issue than anything. Would have had to declare martial law or something to force people to stay inside tbh.
crateo
Nah, they just thought that herd immunity would do the trick, against all scientific evidence. It didn't.
Cantandwont
You dumb mf that is not what happened. Stop reading alt-right tweets you dense ass.
DungeonMaster69
More in the lines of "go get it early on for everyone so we can put this behind us"
calmhorizons
Norway isnt orange!
DungeonMaster69
Caramster
Not really
hadtodownvote1
"Don't wear masks, they're bad for you" wasn't great either :(
Euronyme
Nobody ever said that though.
mentallychallengeaccepted
Uuuuugh i’ve had so many fights about this. My friends says it will ”kill more people if we had masks because people would be less cautious”
hadtodownvote1
Yeah, as if people were being cautious now -.-
mentallychallengeaccepted
Exactly.
TrubshawTheLordCommander
Now now, that's not quite what was said.
hadtodownvote1
True, I paraphrased. It was more like "if we tell people to wear masks they won't social distance" and "it makes people touch their faces"
TrubshawTheLordCommander
Ja, det var väl något i den stilen. Men det är ytterst tveksamt om gjort någon skillnad om munskyddsrekommendationen kommit tidigare.
hadtodownvote1
(still not exact quotes)
FjordFiskursson
They didn't every try that.
hadtodownvote1
Seconding khora. They absolutely did
khora
They absolutely did, and people stayed home more than e.g. Norway, but it turns out that decades of slashing elder care had an impact.
LittlePinkAnimal
It's fucking tragic that it took a pandemic for people to realize how bad it had gotten.
TrubshawTheLordCommander
Do you think anything will change at all, now that everyone knows how bad it is?
khora
Well, it was already known in the annual reports, but no politician acted on them.
FjordFiskursson
No, folkhälsomyndigheten said that there is no reason for anybody to stay at home, unless you were sick.
mentallychallengeaccepted
It bugs me so fucking much. It was clearly it didn’t work out in the summer. Why in the fuck didn’t they just change strategy?
khora
They said work from home in their presentation the 17th March last year, so that has been the recommendation at least since then.
kingkongkeom
Sweden went for "herd immunity via sacrificing the old and vulnerable until the weak are dead & as an added bonus saving on pension payouts"
khora
No, they didn't. In their second public presentation they stated that the goal was to reduce the spread to not overwhelm the hospitals.
ElroydIsGone
Um, not exactly, they initially tried "protect the elderly and vulnerable and let it burn quickly through the general population", but >