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#blizzard #ea #star_wars #starcraft_2
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#blizzard #ea #star_wars #starcraft_2
LiterallyAWizard
Do I get anything special in-game for having spent money on it already? Cuz that's kind of annoying.
Lobuttomize
Yet they ruined WoW by adding a bunch of pointless PvE grinding for minor dps instead of fun things to do
solkahn
Activisions shady micro-transaction patents that came to light recently. In fact they were under fire right up until EA hold-my-beer'd them.
FedoraWearingDragon
First Overwatch and now switching a paid game to F2P? Damn, Blizzard really likes TF2!
BlueDsc
Did they make all of the Coop Commanders free?
ironcannibal13
WiqidBritt
Yeah... now do the same thing with Hearthstone... Oh wait...
blerrger19
Funnily enough Blizzard just gifted me Heart of the Swarm so I might start playing again
JackOfPizzas
I only wanted to play campaign. Still have to pay for that.
fartharder
BAZINGA!
Camelspotting
Well yes, because your game died and now you're making a last ditch attempt to generate interest.
AMartianPotato
Just a reminder that Blizzard is subsidiary to ACTIVISION. Yes, that Activision. "Loot boxes on Normandy Beach" Activision.
theendissneer
Don't forget that sc2 is a 7 year old game...
Felryn
and overwatch is a 1yr old game where the only micro transactions are cosmetic loot boxes to fund more overwatch content/updates
Robvp
I already had wings and they gave me the expansion for free
MostlyDogz
See SEE you can be a triple A developer, give your customers some free shit and still make back!
PhoenSunfire
Sorry, I've already up voted this like 3 times
Idontgiveashitaboutyourshit
Blizz takes shots at EA when they started the loot box BS.
Robvp
Didn't Valve have boxes in CSGO before OW even came out?
CanadianKnowledgeMachine
Blizzard started lootboxes with OW. All unlocks were entirely cosmetic, and didn't hide a part of the game behind grind/pay walls
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emkev
The fastest repost in the West.
StMichael7
Smayds
7.3 minutes? That's gotta be some sort of record.
tygerpsimatrix
I kinda wanna see what happens if we have another "Kelso Day" moment of two posters at roughly the same time...
TheDogEnd
I know it's not the same, but Blizz annoys me w/Hearthstone. Gotta buy new packs, new adventures, new expansions every few months 1/
TheDogEnd
You don't *have* to pay-to-win, but its either that or play every. single. day. to grind the gold/dust you need to get all the new cards 2/2
CanadianKnowledgeMachine
Hearthstone is just a digital TCG. When I played MTG I paid a shit ton for cards. That's how the genre is
TheDogEnd
I understand that, but it annoys me all the same. Hearthstone doesn't have to pay merchant fees, or negotiate which stores can sell them 1/
TheDogEnd
they don't have to pay for production cost, or transporting costs, or material cost, incuding *ink* 2/
TheDogEnd
they have to pay card designers and computer equipment (but so does Magic) and once the card is made they've essentially a nigh infinite 3/
TheDogEnd
amount of cards they can reproduce forever and distribute nearly instantly. Comparing Blizz to WotC's operating cost and superabundance 4/
bluegent
If you want to praise anyone, praise Team Cherry. 40 hours of content for 15 dollars with 2 free DLCs and another on the way(Hollow Knight).
Aryn240
God dammit I love hollow knight. One of the best game experiences of my life, from price to gameplay to art to replayability to updates.
shentokozil183
CDprojekt Red though
bluegent
Don't they constantly whine about piracy?Couldn't get into the Witcher games, too much trying to cash in on sex and le edgy fantasy setting.
Sevkialtunbuken
Witcher 3 man... Another dimension
shentokozil183
Seriously, nothing bad in relation to piracy, they kinda joke about it, they don't cash I on sex, but they don't hide from it..
bluegent
Yes, they don't cash in on sex the same GoT doesn't cash in on sex. Come on.
SpenderOfTender
I'd like to point out that micro transactions can be done right.
SpenderOfTender
Halo 5, for example.
ColonelCouch
Halo 5 and done right don't belong in the same comment section
SpenderOfTender
Just curious, but could you give me a few examples of what they messed up?
ColonelCouch
I just get angry when I see how much 343 have butchered the campaign and story of the Halo universe
SpenderOfTender
Oh, I was talking about multiplayer. The story has been garbage since Halo 4.
karlbadmanners
Yea.....except Heroes of the Storm??? I know it's FtP but Blizzard has no right to be sassing anyone about bleeding their customers
Robvp
Eh HoTS is f2p and none of the bought stuff affects gameplay, I had a ton of heroes and some skins and never spent a dime
CanadianKnowledgeMachine
Played Heroes of the Storm for 2 years now. Never paid a cent, have almost every hero (except JR)
CanadianKnowledgeMachine
If I payed 80$ for a game, I expect to be able to have the main characters as playable
lfgnjrp
To be fair - I have every character in HOTS and never paid anything. They are real good about the loot box prices.
RealScienceMan
Yea if the game starts free a little P2W is fine with me as long as it's reasonable to earn everything.
IlidaIsMyBro
In HotS it's not even P2W it's just pay for cosmetic items like skins and mounts. Nothing more
bmjflow
Stim packs only make grinding faster. Everything is free if you want it, and doesn’t impact game play.
lfgnjrp
*prizes
IlidaIsMyBro
Exactly, I had an xp booster pack for like 3 week without paying a single cent, now if they could do the same with heartstone.
RealScienceMan
HS is pretty easy to get all the cards free and stay caught up if you just do the daily every day and the brawl weekly.
lfgnjrp
Well, I may not have all the cards. But I get to rank 2 or 3 every season. So it's not P2W. But I do wish there was more dust for your cards
Sevkialtunbuken
but wait.... blizzard killed diablo3 with micro transactions
Teledabby
they kill dia2 by dont care about bots too. and fucked up dia3 ymmv
Stenheim
Microtransactions was like gone by season 2 or 3 in D3 if iam not wrong
cellpunk
Eh. It was still player driven. Still unfair, but people in the community were still profiting. They also removed it relatively quickly.
Jandegrote
1 micro transaction ? it was lack of content...
4troll
Diablo 3 warehouse was not nearly as retarded as what €A is trying now. And blizzard aknowledges that it didnt work and just removed it.
GerberLegalTeam
I never played it till about 6 months ago. I'm guessing it's different now.
ForrestIndustries
Can't make winners everytime.
BigAZNMan
Path of Exile (i know it's not Blizz) has microtransactions, but they do it right.
Derpercaust
But they listened and fixed it.
Mirawatts
Hearthstone. That is all.
Crustypeanut
huh
Crustypeanut
Unless you call the Necromancer DLC (and its a DLC, not a microtransaction), a microtransaction, then d3 has no microtransactions..
IM4M
but Blizzard Learns, not EA
RealScienceMan
Naw they killed Diablo 3 with bad shallow content
RealScienceMan
the AH was an excuse for people, it's a terminal problem in games that allow trading Blizzard just decided to make it safe and take a cut.
supersars
I think more accurately they killed it's hype with the auction house shit. That and the replayability was almost non-existent until they fix
blerrger19
Players did that really. Blizzard allowed it sure but it was a player-driven market. Blizzard killed it with seasons and ladders and rifts
flamecoloredskies
Can we all be this pissed about net neutrality?
phatteh
And then they listened
Healbot
I thought Diablo 3 was called path of exiles ... ;)
Honorius77
ShrubNinja
Path of Exile seemed neat, but I was just lost while trying to play it. I have no idea where to start with that giant skill web.
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conedog
That's no more Pay to Win than people buying levelled characters in WoW (and by the way against the Terms). 1/2
conedog
Pay to Win is when the developers sells an advantage in game for real life currency. 2/2
Sixinchnipz
Lol at the noobs who don't realize Diablo was a game first.
thetof91
They have fixed it a lot. Totally different game now compare to release.
barotrauma
yes but the game died for a lot of people, i have it and i haven't played it since about 3 weeks after its launch.
Donttouchthatwithoutgloves
Revisit it. I was the same and pleasantly surprised at all the positive changes they made
Slash0mega
they still tried it though... same thing as now, people threw up a fuss so they had to give up to try again another day.
Donttouchthatwithoutgloves
Agreed. Came back after playing it right after release and the game is 100% better now
zamielvanweber
I bought it after a lot of fixing and it was cool but did not have D2's magic. Maybe because the campaign felt way shorter?
NocturnalGreed
You misspelled nostalgia.
zamielvanweber
I still play D2, just not much.
SittinSamTheSaychetMan
Nah, new Blizzard stuff is brighter, bubblier, and less creepy. Same happened to SC imo
Sevkialtunbuken
I did not buy any expansion pack, will it still be good?
thetof91
I guess you can play it. Better with expansion. As max level is 10 higher and some other stuff. But you can get the expansion cheap now.
1metalnation
Yes, completely vanilla d3 was a riot to play with my friends. Sucks dick solo though
GifMagister
I disagree, I had a blast solo! :)
stolie
I played Diablo 3 multiple times through and don't remember microtransactions. I also played it years after the initial release.
sensoryte
they put a hardlevel for items on i58 after a few people got i61 and then you couldn't progress less you bought from market, lastet few mont
ChuckWeiss
The in game auction stuff didn't do so well, so they took it out. No micro transactions for years now.
AMartianPotato
two words: auction house
jedijazz
That was gone nearly immediately because blizzard does at least listen to their fans when they are outraged.
AMartianPotato
TIL that two full years is "nearly immediately".
Cryolith
tbf, D3 was dead after the initial 6-8 hours of actual story anyway. That shitty replay grind was awful.
ChuckWeiss
I liked it.
BlackMask686
Man, i liked it
sometimesipostsockshere
I played only a little bit of diablo 2 at my friend's place back in the day. I bought D3 only for the story and cinematics. Fucken loved it!
troy11998822
This. What a shit story with shit character and class options. Grim Dawn is so much better IMO
WhosThatDamnPokemon
I had a lot of fun with d3. Don't really care if you or anyone else didn't like it. Got about 200 hours out of it before I moved on.
scmfck
Yeah I love d3 ... the only thing I didn’t like was the skill tree or not skill tree other than that love it. I miss d2
Babhel
Just like the old diablos, if you don't like this kind of games, don't play them
iPretend
14-20 if you count 3 people taking turns optimizing gear every 8 minutes.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
TBH, Xbox split screen Diablo 3 was a hell of a lot of fun. There aren't many split screen games out nowadays.
Senofa
So true!
Vaenaemoenen
Good, solid game just like the older ones were.
Cryolith
No disagreement. The base game was really good. Just not after the twelfth play-through of the same content.
Vaenaemoenen
Well that might do it. But what is?
Teledabby
still like dia2 / lod more than 3. dia 3 is so boring with no tactical possibilities and fixed skills 1/2
Teledabby
rember what a lod necro could do with all of his skills... god old days 2/2
JackOfPizzas
SC2 was still 1 game for the price of 3. And you still can't play Campaign for free :(
supersars
Anyone can play Wings of Liberty for free now. Each campaign is only $15 each.
JackOfPizzas
I already own and completed WoL 7 years ago.
vegio
Then you should own Heart of the Swarm. You get WoL for free if you have nothing, and you get HotS for free if you have WoL. I think?
JackOfPizzas
I dont get Hots or Lotv
nomnombabies
Aside from Reaper and the necroI've yet to make any in-game purchase for D3. And both if those went on sale pretty early after release.
supersars
Other than reaper of souls and the necro I don't think there is anything else you can buy
magneticgumby
OPs bringing up shit that hasn't been in the game in a long time. Initially the original D3 had a shitty auction house.
nomnombabies
I remember that, but I blame the community for destroying the economy, and also the bots that farmed gold.
mksu
Aside from D3, which was almost ruined by a RMAH, they have microtransactions for every single one of their modern titles.
TacticalWookiee
RMAH?
RealScienceMan
Overwatch is cosmetics only, HS is a card game and F2P so the standards are lower. HS is fine it's easy to catch up and stay that way.
emkev
That's why I only replay the same titles over and over for 20 years.
ThatBatmanFappingGIF
WoW store items are cosmetic only. Unless you like pet battles. That shit is pay to win.
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
This reminds me of the War Thunder post yesterday. Throwing stones in a glass house.
SquirtleSquad420
That are cosmetic only and doesn't affect gameplay. Doesn't bother me.
WannabeMaverick
Hearthstone
Lampwall
Hearthstone is more of a virtual card game though. You can buy cards just has you would for MTG.
Thanatos121
Plus HS is f2p
dpressedonion
In wow there is level boosts but that doesn't really do much for you but make it take less time to cap
Thewinterisstillhere
Yeah they're is no way to pay to win in wow. Maybe just some shortcut but only for leveling. Not the endgame.
TacoPrime
At least they don't lock classes unless you pay $
WinstonChurchmountain
Well, they do. But they're generally called expansions and come with more than just the class.
Vydrach
And their money grubbing attempts killed the Starcraft 2 esports. Starcraft tournaments are done with 1.
Makimakithefirst
I mean what "killed" SC2 esports were more League of Legends as far as I recall.
Vydrach
Nah, they wanted all the royalties and being able to have full control of the esports scene while putting no money into it. League invests-
Vydrach
a ton of money into the esports scene which is why it does so well. Blizzard just let it kinda die off while trying to leech it.
raijuros
The only devs putting more into esports than actiblizz are steam - and blizz is cloning that method for sc2 now.
omenofstorms
Uhhh maye sc2 esports is still alive... not sure where you have been looking
iPretend
Oh dude that sucks! I just started watching professional matches this week and was getting into it.
SquirtleSquad420
It's still alive just smaller than a few years ago.
bmjflow
No fear. They are fully alive.
HoboNinja91
To be fair, Overwatch loot boxes only give cosmetic upgrades. And you can earn them at a decent rate by playing the various play modes.
Cobaltios
And if you win 9 Arcade games, you get 3 free lootboxes.
CanonInTheStreetsFanonInTheSheets
And don't forget the free lootbox every time an event arrives + bonus lootboxes for winning each new gamemode for the first time.
ForrestIndustries
And it funds our free new hero's, maps, and game modes.
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HoboNinja91
If anything, I think Blizzard showed a better way to do loot boxes with Overwatch. They get extra income and the players are not screwed.
jedijazz
That's just ignorant. Paid loot boxes have been a big thing since casuals became the majority players years ago.
Sttargh
In free to play games yes, but in paid games no. Blizzard was really the first to "start" the trend. It has happened before, but since they
Sttargh
Did it, there has been a huge boom in paid games with microtransactions
Camelspotting
No you can't.
HoboNinja91
Yes you can! And you can earn in game currency if you want to buy a specific skin or other cosmetic.
Camelspotting
Lol nope. If I want all the skins from an event I can't get them by playing.
HoboNinja91
All without dropping any extra money.
Camelspotting
I should have been more specific though, you can't really get them at a decent rate.
Saucysauces
Every level, 3 lootboxes for arcade every week I believe, events give 1 of their respective type, and any new game modes in arcade give(1/2)